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== Old edits to your user page retrieved, your very early edits, etc. ==
==Important subjects==
I sometimes reflect on comments by you and others that most of the important subjects have been covered on Misplaced Pages. I thought about that sentiment recently as I was digging into the history of the '']'' and its proprietor ]. Also his daughters who took over his paper and property after he became incapacitated and ran it and a boarding school in Huntsville. I also reflected on those ideas as I looked into the extant home on what was once their property near downtown Huntsville.


Hi Jimmy, I've moved your user page edits from their previous location at "Jimbo Wales" to {{noredirect|User:Jimbo Wales/old2}} with ], so they're no longer in the main namespace; the title "{{noredirect|User:Jimbo Wales/old}}" was ]. I then imported edits to your user page from some 2001 database dumps, most notably the one from August 2001, so we can now see ]! I hope this is all OK with you.
What are the important subjects? Can we understand the history of Huntsville or the U.S. or the world if we don't cover more of these subjects? It continues to be a struggle to add entries on so many subjects including the newspapers, people, buildings, and communities that shaped who we were and who we've become. I thought these subjects were interesting so I thought I'd share them here with you and others. Take care. (I started ]'') ] (]) 15:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)


It's a long story how I ended up doing this. So ] is celebrating a milestone of 20% of our biographical articles being about women. In the ], a ] about who was the first woman to get a biographical entry here]]. I was able to give a ] of ] on ]! I've been spending the last couple of days checking the very early edits of the first biographies created around that time, and came upon ] (or ThomasEdison as it was at first in CamelCase). In the process of consolidating the Thomas Edison page history, I moved your edit from "ThomasEdison" to "Thomas Edison"; your early edit to that page on 23 January (UTC) was previously listed as the first one but ].
] was next door to their property. That institution is noted . ] (]) 15:30, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
:I love that draft of The Weekly Democrat. I'm traveling in New York at the moment and won't have time to chip in and help for a week or two, but if I can, I will!--] (]) 16:02, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks for the encouragement, enthusiasm, and for your interest Jimbo. ] (]) 20:45, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


As noted in various places like ], your first surviving edit under the username "JimboWales" was to the ThomasEdison (or Thomas Edison) page. I checked the August 2001 database dump for any earlier ones, found them, and imported to the English Misplaced Pages database. Of course you made earlier edits, but it's interesting to find early contributions attached to your username (in CamelCase form or otherwise). ] (]) 15:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
== Question regarding Wikimedia Endowment 2023-24 Plan ==


:Such nerdy presents we give. Thanks, brother. ] (]) 16:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Jimbo, could you please give us more details about ?
::No worries. My Christmas gifts are ], as I realised later. ] (]) 05:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 24 December 2024 ==
I would like to know who the $2,300,946 ($874,546 + $1,426,400) in personnel expenses, $584,541 ($407,541 + $177,00) in professional services, etc. were paid to, and who the "interns, contractors and fellows" are. <s>Are they on the Tides payroll? Foundation payroll?</s><small>(Answered. See below.)</small> What, exactly, is a "fellow" and what do these fellows do? --] (]) 22:20, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2024-12-24}} </div><!--Volume 20, Issue 18--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * ''']''' * ] * ] * ] (]) 00:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script (]) --></div></div>
:OK, anyone who knows my history knows that I've had my pretty legendary scuffles with the WMF (and was vindicated after 7 years), but even I can tell this could be an example in the article ]. I'm wondering, what answer would satisfy you? ] (]) 00:56, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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::Any substantive discussion would satisfy me. An honest "fuck off. I am never going to answer your questions" would satisfy me. Pretty much anything other than a stonewall silence whenever someone asks a reasonable question would satisfy me.


Happy New Year Jimbo Wales! Wish you luck in 2025! ] (]) 03:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::Sure, I would ''prefer'' engaging in a polite back and forth discussion as one would hope for among people who are working towards the same goal, but at this point pretty much any response, no matter how rude or evasive, would be a step forward from not responding at all.

::I am not the only person asking these sort of questions. See ]. --] (]) 03:07, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
:::This is a straightforward question. This is a serious question. As a Wikipedian of over 15 years, I want a serious answer. ] (]) 03:12, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
::::Another source answered part of the above question. See Still waiting for any response other than silence here. --] (]) 03:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::The other question that I see up above is about fellows. The WMF accountants have a budget category for "interns, contractors, and fellows". We do not have any fellows on the endowment. The fellows that I know of are on the legal team (of the WMF), usually law school students who do research for them as needed. There is one hourly employee, who manages the endowment's donor database.--] (]) 14:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::Thanks! Very clear answer. --] (]) 19:13, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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== Endowment financial information ==

Just as an FYI, there's a discussion going on right now to finalize some details and new information will be released very soon (I think before the week is out, barring anything unforeseen). ] (]) 10:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
:Financials have been published for the Wikimedia Endowment for the years 2016-2023. --] (]) 17:24, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for this!
{{cot|Comparison to S&P 500}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:right;"
|+ Wikimedia Foundation Endowment comparison to Standard & Poor's 500 stock index performance
! Fiscal year ending date !! June 2016 !! June 2017 !! June 2018 !! June 2019 !! June 2020 !! June 2021 !! June 2022 !! June 2023 ||
|-
| colspan=10 |
|-
! Support and revenue: || colspan=8 align=center | US Dollars || Total
|-
| Contributions || 6,607,435 || 11,590,795 || 11,737,537 || 12,000,238 || 21,194,726 || 24,093,050 || 11,549,007 || 6,547,663 || 105,320,451
|-
| Interest and dividends || — || 434,002 || 591,087 || 991,500 || 1,041,846 || 1,052,879 || 1,484,920 || 651,991 || 6,248,224
|-
| Realized gains || — || -6,895 || 937,287 || 1,077,257 || 303,116 || 4,535,027 || -225,081 || 0 || 6,620,711
|-
| Change in unrealized gains || — || 536,615 || -3,361,489 || 4,650,940 || 5,644,620 || 7,571,504 || -21,995,265 || 9,109,544 || 2,156,469
|-
| Total support and revenue || 6,607,435 || 12,554,518 || 9,904,422 || 18,719,935 || 28,184,308 || 37,252,460 || -9,186,420 || 16,309,197 || 120,345,855
|-
! Expenses: || colspan=9 |
|-
| Grants and awards || — || — || — || — || — || — || — || 4,527,086 || 4,527,086
|-
| Internal fees || 31,425 || 79,971 || 145,598 || 186,364 || 239,954 || 329,416 || 354,192 || 181,368 || 1,548,288
|-
| Other expenses || — || 3,168 || 11,605 || 13,376 || 19,863 || 32,935 || 33,751 || 17,533 || 132,232
|-
| Total expenses || 31,425 || 83,139 || 157,202 || 199,741 || 259,816 || 362,352 || 387,943 || 4,725,987 || 6,207,605
|-
! colspan=10 |
|-
| Increase in net assets || 6,576,011 || 12,471,379 || 9,747,220 || 18,520,194 || 27,924,492 || 36,890,109 || -9,574,363 || 11,583,210 || 114,138,250
|-
| Cumulative net assets before grants and awards || 6,576,011 || 19,047,390 || 28,794,610 || 47,314,804 || 75,239,296 || 112,129,405 || 102,555,042 || 114,138,252 ||
|-
| Investment income less fees and expenses || || 880,583 || -1,990,318 || 6,519,957 || 6,729,765 || 12,797,059 || -21,123,369 || 9,562,634 ||
|-
! Return on investment || || 7.12% || -7.99% || 18.74% || 11.62% || 14.66% || -17.92% || 9.44% || '''mean: 5.10%'''
|-
! colspan=10 | Note well: those percentage returns assume that half of all contributions are <br/> realized on the first day of the fiscal year, and the other half on the last day.
|-
| S&P 500 net total return || 3,590 || 4,206 || 4,783 || 5,249 || 5,610 || 7,861 || 6,996 || 8,324 || ()
|-
| S&P 500 percentage change || || 17.16% || 13.71% || 9.75% || 6.87% || 40.14% || -11.01% || 18.98% || align=center | '''mean: 13.66%'''
|-
| colspan=10 |
|-
! Return on investment over S&P 500 || || -10.04% || -21.70% || 8.99% || 4.75% || -25.48% || -6.91% || -9.54% || '''mean: -8.56%'''
|}
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:: What are our chances of seeing the historical investment holdings? That spreadsheet table is flawed because it assumes half the year's contributions come in at the beginning of the year and half come in at the end, but if we had historical investment transactions it wouldn't be necessary to make such absurd assumptions. ] (]) 03:55, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Interesting. Thanks @] for posting the chart.
:::I would also be interested in the historical investment holdings. One might guess that Tides/WMF holds, say, treasury bills, treasury bonds, corporate bonds, and so on, generally adopting a more risk-averse investment strategy than 100% investment in the S&P, but in the S&P's worst year (June 2021-22), the WMF's investments did significantly worse than the S&P. I'd like to know what accounts for that. ] (]) 05:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

:I can't answer you, today, as to whether or not we can release that information, because I don't know. I also note that since it's really only at this point a matter of historical interest, I don't think it's worth a huge amount of staff time. I'll check whether it's something easy but I really don't want anyone mucking around with huge spreadsheets to try to answer the question. Leave it with me. It might well be that the balanced answer will be just to get some "color" on the question: "we were invested more heavily in X sector, which performed worse during Y year" or that sort of thing.
:However, I can say that going forward, now that we have our own 501(c)(3) I will advocate for regular and clear transparency much greater than we have been able to provide in the past.--] (]) 08:37, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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    Old edits to your user page retrieved, your very early edits, etc.

    Hi Jimmy, I've moved your user page edits from their previous location at "Jimbo Wales" to User:Jimbo Wales/old2 with a little assistance, so they're no longer in the main namespace; the title "User:Jimbo Wales/old" was already taken. I then imported edits to your user page from some 2001 database dumps, most notably the one from August 2001, so we can now see the first version of your user page on 19 January 2001 (UTC)! I hope this is all OK with you.

    It's a long story how I ended up doing this. So WikiProject Women in Red is celebrating a milestone of 20% of our biographical articles being about women. In the draft press release about this event, a question was raised about who was the first woman to get a biographical entry here]]. I was able to give a definitive answer of Rosa Parks on 21 January 2001 (UTC)! I've been spending the last couple of days checking the very early edits of the first biographies created around that time, and came upon Thomas Edison (or ThomasEdison as it was at first in CamelCase). In the process of consolidating the Thomas Edison page history, I moved your edit from "ThomasEdison" to "Thomas Edison"; your early edit to that page on 23 January (UTC) was previously listed as the first one but not any more.

    As noted in various places like this discussion, your first surviving edit under the username "JimboWales" was to the ThomasEdison (or Thomas Edison) page. I checked the August 2001 database dump for any earlier ones, found them, and imported all of them to the English Misplaced Pages database. Of course you made earlier edits, but it's interesting to find early contributions attached to your username (in CamelCase form or otherwise). Graham87 (talk) 15:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

    Such nerdy presents we give. Thanks, brother. BusterD (talk) 16:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
    No worries. My Christmas gifts are so predictable, as I realised later. Graham87 (talk) 05:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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    Happy New Year Jimbo Wales! Wish you luck in 2025! Gooners Fan in North London (talk) 03:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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