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June 2024

Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. ♦IanMacM♦ 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

It's back, and according to the Dramatica forum, "Namecheap suspended the domain." So off we go with a new domain, with .top holding the record for the shortest tenure at less than a month.--♦IanMacM♦ 18:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Re this edit. ED currently has two domains, edramatica.com which was registered on 9 June 2024, and dramatica.wtf which was registered on 13 May 2024 and is also being used for the forums. Since edramatica.com seems to be the main address and dramatica.wtf is a mirror, the article should give edramatica.com as the address per WP:ELMINOFFICIAL.--♦IanMacM♦ 10:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Re this edit: edramatica.com is down at the moment, but it is unclear whether this is a temporary blip or something more serious.--♦IanMacM♦ 15:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm an ED regular, and I saw it go down live. When it went down, edramatica.com was replaced with a page that said, "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)", so I think it's safe to believe that edramatica.com has been suspended by EasyDNS. Isthisarandomaccountwellyes (talk) 17:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, there have been persistent claims in the past few weeks that domain registrars are unhappy with some of the content on ED. Freedom of speech is one thing, deliberate harassment and defamation of living people is another. Since this is all part of the fun (cough, cough) at ED, it leaves them with the difficult task of finding a new domain and web host.--♦IanMacM♦ 18:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

• And thanks to the wonders of the Wayback Machine, we can see the termination message here. It does indeed say "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)" as a message from easyDNS, complete with a dead skeleton pirate. At this rate ED will end up as a Tor hidden service only, because no domain will have them.--♦IanMacM♦ 18:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

  The forums at dramatica.wtf also seem to be down, as all I get is an error message saying "Page could not be loaded". (On other devices I tried, the website won't even load at all and just says "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN") 92.9.147.249 (talk) 22:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

They are now on encyclopediadramatica.gay, which was registered with Enom on 17 June 2024. So let's see how long this lasts, they have had three new domains in little over a month.--♦IanMacM♦ 07:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

That might not be the wisest choice, per the § Harassment protections section of the .gay article. I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see how long this one will last for. 92.9.147.249 (talk) 11:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

OT, but i'm surprised to see ED able to registed the .gay domain at all. 95.24.34.99 (talk) 11:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

The .gay website now redirects to edramatica.com, which is working again. ObserveOwl (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

.win domain

Re this edit: It's true that the site is up and running at .win, but it is also up and running at .gay at the time of writing. This leads to a problem with WP:ELMINOFFICIAL as usually only one URL is given.--♦IanMacM♦ 07:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

.gay is the current official domain and hosts both the Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums and the wiki. .win is an unauthorized copy of the site that was made by a disgruntled former wiki sysop. The .win site doesn't even have a forum because the guy who runs it never even had a copy of the forum database (although he tried to beg the owner of .gay for the database).

No one of any importance from .online or any of the previous domains is using .win, they are all on .gay. GirlOnInternet (talk) 00:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

The main pages of .gay and .win are different, so they are not a complete mirror. Also, .win does not have the forums which are only on .gay. So it does look like .win is an unofficial mirror and not endorsed by the people at .gay.--♦IanMacM♦ 07:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Those are 'very interesting' one sided comments by both editors, hmmm, but above statement makes no sense if some ver is accepted or not... .win has more articles, also .win has more quality videos... 105.72.201.30 (talk) 16:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over which is the better or more official version, but they are not serving exactly the same content and .win does not have the forum pages.--♦IanMacM♦ 16:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

It would seem that .win is down for the count, leaving edramatica.com as the sole host of the property. The circle of life continues... BOTTO _(T•C) 16:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

It's hard to keep up with this, but at the time of writing, .gay is completely offline, while .win has a page saying "It's over - for now... Due to reasons that shall not be disclosed I will not be able to run encyclopediadramatica.win anymore - at least all on my own." This means that edramatica.com is the only working version at the moment, and thankfully we no longer have to listen to arguments about whether .win or .gay is the better version, because both of them are unavailable now.--♦IanMacM♦ 16:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

@Ianmacm: I'm beginning to get concerned about the quality of the article, as the list of domains & owners is becoming too unwieldy for the infobox. We should probably find a way to truncate it. BOTTO _(T•C) 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Agreed, I'm not sure that the infobox needs to list all of the domains that are now defunct.--♦IanMacM♦ 17:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

no link?

why is there no link? Gahex220 (talk) 17:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

There have been so many ups and downs in 2024 that it is hard to keep track of them all. However, the article is correct that edramatica.com is currently the only one that is online. There is also a problem with WP:LINKLOVE due to unsuitable material on the main page (harassment, Goatse.cx etc).--♦IanMacM♦ 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the user keeps deleting this as it answered the question and it's useful for other editors who might ask the same question. Knitsey (talk) 23:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

as of 12/20/24, edramatica.com is down with the "timed out" error, awaiting further information. Woahglaceon (talk) 06:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

IsItDownRightNow says that it has been down for over a week. This means that at the time of writing, the site is not online at all. This isn't a major panic, as ED has been offline for weeks in the past and returned. Watch this space.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Are you checking some other ED mirror? I'm taking about edramatica.com, which was back on the same day it got down, which was 12/20/24. Woahglaceon (talk) 18:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I couldn't access edramatica.com yesterday (20 December), but it is back online today. IsItDownRightNow agrees and says "Last down: 1 day 10 hours ago.--♦IanMacM♦ 20:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

ED Downtime

edramatica.com is down again. (12/23/24) Woahglaceon (talk) 06:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

edramatica.com is back up. (12/23/24) Woahglaceon (talk) 09:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm relaxed about this, as ED's hosting is famously unreliable. It has been offline for days or weeks in the past.--♦IanMacM♦ 12:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the long delay, edramatica.com was back up the next day. Woahglaceon (talk) 09:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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