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== Deletion of ] ==


This page wasn't a ]. For one thing, the user had made more than 700 edits to mainspace and rather than the "few or no edits outside of user pages" required for U5. For another, what the user had put on the page was just "Hi!", which is not a remotely problematic user page. The rest of what was on that page was a comment that another user left, which could just be reverted. ] (]) 11:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
== Unreasonable deletion of a high quality article ==
] was good faith article with peer-reviewed academic sources, describing research by an individual and reasonably (therefore) citing individual's peer-reviewed papers in research journals and authoritative web sites. Paper ranked C in two categories by independent Misplaced Pages editors. Surely the constructive way to proceed here is to fix the minor query, not banhammer. Petitioning to reinstate the article.


:] thanks. Obviously you are technically right, so I've restored. I'll leave any reversion to you, since the history doesn't suggest to me which version should be restored if it's not left as is. ] - ] 13:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Update: I had a discussion at the appeals page; they declined reinstatement but suggested that I talk to you about returning the article to draft so that I could fix it. This is my first biographical article - perhaps indeed I wasn't terribly encyclopedic... <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Looking at the user's talk page, it seems that you also unintentionally deleted ] as "making way for a move" even though that page was not a redirect and the page to be moved, ], ''was'' a redirect. As ] notes, "{{tq|An administrator who deletes a page that is blocking a move should ensure that the move is completed after deleting it.}}" The person who nominated it really wanted to delete ] and move the article there (though that would be move warring despite a ]). ]&nbsp;] 13:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
:Replied on user talk page, self-sourced bio by COI editor ] - ] 07:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


::::] I'm happy for you to make any remedy you feel is appropriate. It's clearly not appropriate in article space. I suppose it's just about acceptable as a poor draft, but whether its creator will leave it there is, as you suggest, problematic ] - ] 16:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
== Please Restore Pay4Me ==


== ] ==
Can you restore Pay4Me draft? I will have to readjust every promotional or advertising content that made you delete the draft. The draft was not intended to serve as these issues.
Thank you
] (]) 07:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC).
:Replied on user talk page, fact-free promo sourced to the company's founder ] - ] 13:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


Hello, would you be able to review it at FAC? ] (]) 02:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
== Hawken Horse (Band) ==


:Done at ] ] - ] 11:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Could you please restore my submission? I'm confused by the G11 deletion for the draft of Hawken Horse Band. I provided an overview of the band, as well as background of it's creator. This isn't created for promotion as cited, but as a reference page as they are a notable band in their niche market. ] (]) 20:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
:*Replied on user talk page, promo for band with no proper refs or evidence of notability ] - ] 05:26, 11 October 2023 (UTC)


== Blocked user using his talk page to advertise ==
== Business Model Ontology ==


See . Thanks. ] (]) 10:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
The ] was deemed as copyright infringement due to this book: https://itfes.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Business-Model-Ontology-1.pdf
:{{tps}} Jim hasn't edited for some hours, so I removed talkpage access. Thank you, {{u|BilCat}}. ] &#124; ] 10:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC).
::{{ping|BilCat|Bishonen}} thanks to both ] - ] 10:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::And thanks to you both too. ] (]) 10:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


I am the author of the book. In the book you can see a thesis, which is my thesis which I also defended successfully. As this was the reason for the deletion I believe the deletion of the draft should be canceled as I am allowing the use of the texts. If for any reason Misplaced Pages still doesn't want to use the same texts, I would like to have the chance to rewrite them. I would need a few days to do so. I didn't had any chance now because the page was immediately deleted so I couldn't do anything about it, or explain the situation. I did mention before that I wrote a thesis on the topic of BMO. It is on my talk page from October 23. Discussion with ] .


== WERYPEAS ==
The following is the given reason for deletion which I oppose:


] (]) 11:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC) I want to contact with you somehow, cause I'm new to Misplaced Pages, so if I am able to, I would appreciate the opportunity.. You deleted the page, and as I think the situation which happen right now is misunderstanding.
] ] ] deleted page ] (]: Unambiguous ] of <nowiki>https://itfes.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Business-Model-Ontology-1.pdf</nowiki>) ] (]) 07:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
:*Replied on user talk page. Unreferenced autobiography in Russian for non-notable musician ] - ] 11:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


== January music ==
:], You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Misplaced Pages, as outlined in ]. That applies ''even'' to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state '''clearly and explicitly''' that the text is '''public domain'''. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Misplaced Pages, as described ]; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. Your text was tagged '''ALL RIGHTS RESERVED No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means – electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise – without prior written permission, except for the inclusion of brief quotations in a review'''. That is not consistent with our requirements of free use for any purpose by anyone. Your images also appear to be taken from the book. Copyright violations will not be restored. You say you are giving permission, but we can't verify who you are, or whether you or ITFES own the copyright; we can only go by the published copyright notice
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Happy new year 2025! Today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. -- ] (]) 20:58, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


:] Happy New Year to you to, and thanks for the link ] - ] 08:52, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:You have an obvious ], which you are required to declare on your user page. Please don't write about your own research.
:A master's thesis is unlikely to be regarded as ]. Much of the text is unreferenced, referenced to your own publications, or to other primary sources. we need independent third-party sources ] - ] 08:06, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
::I understand what you are saying. The theory of Business model ontology is not my own research. It is research that started in 1997 and i am not a part of it. I only say that some of the texts I used are mine and my thesis made a metaresearch on the topic. I didn't create this knowledge. You are right that a master thesis is not notable research that can create some new type of scientific knowledge. No doubt about that. Anyways, I will read more about ] about the texts that overlap. ] (]) 08:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:::I don't claim to be an expert on releasing copyright, but the details are ] You can't change your master's text, so it's the latter part releasing text already on line that matters. I think we need an email from iftes phrased as directed in that section. ] - ] 12:43, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
::::The email was sent from itfes to wikipedia just now and I sent you an email with the content. ] (]) 10:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

:::::] OK, I'll restore the text, to which you should add the permission pending template as per the instructions as soon as possible. Note that the article may, of course be challenged on other grounds, such as incomplete or non-third-party referencing ] - ] 12:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
::::::Thank you. I added the permission pending template. ] (]) 12:51, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

== Guide me on publishing the article Global Alliance for Mass Entrepreneurship ==

I saw that the article was not published due to conflict of interest reason but I would like to declare that I am in no way related to the Global Alliance for Mass Entrepreneurship.It is a national organisation and no page was existing so I decided to make a page.Please let me know what I can correct in it so as to publish the article. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Replied on user talk page, unreferenced fact-free promo ] - ] 12:46, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

== Deletion of MGN events listing ==

Hello,

I'm new to Misplaced Pages and still trying to find my feet.

<nowiki>I recently created a page for MGN events, however it was flagged as promotional by another user and then removed by you. I had tried to keep the page as factual as possible, and tried to avoid promotional language, but unfortunately it must have still sounded like an advert (it's difficult to describe a company without giving info on what they do that could be seen as promotional). Would you be willing to reinstate the page if I insert the {{</nowiki>]<nowiki>}} tag? Any advice gratefully received.</nowiki> ] (]) 13:07, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

:], I've given a detailed reply on your talk page. Successfully creating a company page is one of the most difficult challenges on Misplaced Pages, and isn't really something a new editor should attempt. You said that you ''tried to keep the page as factual as possible'' but didn't actually give us any real facts. You said ''tried to avoid promotional language'', but all you wrote was your company's aims, and the unsupported claim ''The company is recognised for its expertise...''

:Your text was unverified apart from four media links, three of which were to reputable sources, but they were just quoting Walker's opinions, and the fourth was a blog. There is nothing worth restoring, start from scratch, following the guidance on your talk to the letter. I'm not sure your refs are of any value, but I'll copy them to your talk next ] - ] 14:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


== Article deletion (Draft:Ira Vouk) ==
Dear Jimfbleak. Thank you for your quick revision of ]. It was deleted by you due to "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion". I would like to inquire if it's allowed to re-write the page in a different manner and remove any references that may be deemed promotional? Ira Vouk is a notable figure in the hospitality industry and I believe that her contributions deserve a wiki page. I admire her for her work but I'm capable of remaining neutral and producing a less "colorful" article. Will you consider reinstating the draft so that I can edit it? If not, would you be so kind to suggest any other options that are available for this article to exist in wiki space?
sincerely,
--] (]) 15:14, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

:Replied on user talk page ] - ] 16:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

== Kanha Singh and Vel Singh, The dacoits of Bhinmal ==

Hi Jimfbleak. At 12.14 today you deleted ], it has now been recreated as ]. As far as I can recall, this is identical to the deleted article. Presumably the same argument for deletion holds for the recreated article, whilst as the editor is just copypasting ] under different titles should the user-page also be rev-delled? - ] (]) 12:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

:], thanks. Not sure what to do about this user. That article appears to be in good faith, but there are obvious competency issues ] - ] 12:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
::Agreed. Unfortunately their chosen topics are fairly contentious and subject to PoV pushing. I already have most on my checklist. Thanks anyway - ] (]) 13:07, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
:::He's started recreating it again at ]. I don't think he will stop voluntarily, and the ] problems are getting worse - ] (]) 14:08, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

::::], thanks. Blocked for a week now... ] - ] 14:54, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
:::::Thanks - ] (]) 14:55, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

== Deletion of ] ==
{{ping|Jimfbleak}} You gave me no time to respond - I'd only just started the article. I assumed an article in Draft was not public and therefore not subject to Copyright, so I copied the information from its source to start the article, so I didn't have to flick back and forth across various sources. I had no intention at all of publishing the material as it was, to the public. Can you please either remove or hide the section of the article body that contains the copyrighted information and reinstate the article, or undelete the article so I can do this myself? ] (]) 21:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

:@] {{tpw}} No part of Misplaced Pages is suitable to have copyright material placed in it. Breach of copyright is actually the use, misappropriation, of someone else's intellectual property, an unlawful act. Copyright material is removed as soon as it is spotted. This protects the intellectual property of the copyright owner and protects Misplaced Pages.
:A firm suggestion is for you to rewrite the material from scratch. You will be unable to "hide" the section yourself, and your request simply makes work for others to perform. 🇺🇦&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;🇺🇦 21:54, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

::@] Thank you for responding. I didn't know the general public could read an unfinished, unpublished Draft. The information I copied was only to have access to key dates in the history of EPTA, tiresome to have to fick back and forth between pages. But at no time was I intending to publish the copied text as is, and it was never my intention to deliberately "make work for others to perform". Can Sandbox be used to draft the article without being continually pulled down while it's under construction? ] (]) 22:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
:::I am gobsmacked that an editor with ten years of experience would be unaware that drafts are available to the public. (It may well have been unfinished, which technically applies to every single article in main space as well as draft space, but it wasn't unpublished, as should be obvious from the button labeled "publish changes" which you have collected over seven thousand times. If you insist that you didn't know, I'll assume good faith and accept that you didn't know. However, that doesn't change the well-established Misplaced Pages rules not to mention the law which prohibits the hosting of copyrighted material.]] 23:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you for ]. “Gobsmacked” as you say you are, it has not been my practice to create new articles, only to help improve existing ones. This is only the third article I have in ten years attempted, the first two in 2016, and both of them started their lives in Sandbox, not as Draft articles.
::::In the Misplaced Pages notice at the top of the page, it states: “Draft article not currently submitted for review. This is a draft Articles for creation (AfC) submission. It is not currently pending review,” which I took to mean that no-one other than me could see it.
::::I assumed this Wizard would allow me to work on the article and only present it to the world after review and publication. Now, I know better, and thank you for clarifying this, albeit paternalistically. This is the first time I have used the Article Creation Wizard, and it wasn’t clear to me that draft articles are de facto published articles, leading me to wonder what the point of a draft actually is. ] (]) 23:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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Deletion of User:SdHb

This page wasn't a WP:U5. For one thing, the user had made more than 700 edits to mainspace and rather than the "few or no edits outside of user pages" required for U5. For another, what the user had put on the page was just "Hi!", which is not a remotely problematic user page. The rest of what was on that page was a comment that another user left, which could just be reverted. SilverLocust (talk) 11:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

SilverLocust thanks. Obviously you are technically right, so I've restored. I'll leave any reversion to you, since the history doesn't suggest to me which version should be restored if it's not left as is. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Looking at the user's talk page, it seems that you also unintentionally deleted Aminullah Khan as "making way for a move" even though that page was not a redirect and the page to be moved, Draft:Aminullah Khan, was a redirect. As WP:G6 notes, "An administrator who deletes a page that is blocking a move should ensure that the move is completed after deleting it." The person who nominated it really wanted to delete Draft:Aminullah Khan and move the article there (though that would be move warring despite a WP:DRAFTOBJECT). SilverLocust 💬 13:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
SilverLocust I'm happy for you to make any remedy you feel is appropriate. It's clearly not appropriate in article space. I suppose it's just about acceptable as a poor draft, but whether its creator will leave it there is, as you suggest, problematic Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Dusky dolphin

Hello, would you be able to review it at FAC? LittleJerry (talk) 02:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Done at Misplaced Pages:Featured_article_candidates/Dusky_dolphin/archive1 Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Blocked user using his talk page to advertise

See User talk:Willamthomus. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 10:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Jim hasn't edited for some hours, so I removed talkpage access. Thank you, BilCat. Bishonen | tålk 10:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC).
@BilCat and Bishonen: thanks to both Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
And thanks to you both too. BilCat (talk) 10:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


WERYPEAS

WERYPEAS (talk) 11:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC) I want to contact with you somehow, cause I'm new to Misplaced Pages, so if I am able to, I would appreciate the opportunity.. You deleted the page, and as I think the situation which happen right now is misunderstanding.

January music

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Happy new year 2025! Today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt Happy New Year to you to, and thanks for the link Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:52, 15 January 2025 (UTC)