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| == Follow up on ZKH Industrial Supply page == | |||
| : Hi Jimfbleak, | |||
| == Unreasonable deletion of a high quality article == | |||
| : Thanks and well received the latest feedback. I will adjust the content accordingly. | |||
| ] was good faith article with peer-reviewed academic sources, describing research by an individual and reasonably (therefore) citing individual's peer-reviewed papers in research journals and authoritative web sites. Paper ranked C in two categories by independent Misplaced Pages editors. Surely the constructive way to proceed here is to fix the minor query, not banhammer. Petitioning to reinstate the article. | |||
| : Don't get me wrong. I don't want to create promotional content for the organisation, I just want to write some existing facts about the firm so that audience can have more visibility about the company when they search it. The company is a Chinese firm and has listed on NYSE since 2023. Currently most of third-parties (like news) are from local and not in english language, I wonder if that's acceptable if I use them in citation? And is there a minumum number of reference needed? | |||
| : Besides reference issue, regarding the latest edits, are any other parts that I need to adjust my wording? | |||
| : Thanks and looking forward to your feedback. | |||
| : Grace | |||
| ] (]) 11:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Update: I had a discussion at the appeals page; they declined reinstatement but suggested that I talk to you about returning the article to draft so that I could fix it. This is my first biographical article - perhaps indeed I wasn't terribly encyclopedic... <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Replied on user talk page, self-sourced bio by COI editor ] - ] 07:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::Replied on user talk page ] - ] 11:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Please Restore Pay4Me == | |||
| == Christmas spirit == | |||
| Can you restore Pay4Me draft? I will have to readjust every promotional or advertising content that made you delete the draft. The draft was not intended to serve as these issues. | |||
| Thank you | |||
| ] (]) 07:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC). | |||
| :Replied on user talk page, fact-free promo sourced to the company's founder ] - ] 13:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| I see they tried your generosity a smidgen too far <big>😇😈</big>. Folk think that making the declaration gives them great latitude. As a pedantic old scrote I thought of ''Bah!'' and ''Humbug!''. Please never stop being generous, especially with rope. Mwahahahaha! 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 17:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Hawken Horse (Band) == | |||
| :Thanks ], I was recently criticised for being too gung-ho, so I'm playing nicely over the festive season, merry Christmas ] - ] 20:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Could you please restore my submission? I'm confused by the G11 deletion for the draft of Hawken Horse Band. I provided an overview of the band, as well as background of it's creator. This isn't created for promotion as cited, but as a reference page as they are a notable band in their niche market. ] (]) 20:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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::I doubt one will please everyone. Whatever you do, do it justifiably, as you do normally. Festive leniency of a good concept. A velvet fist in an iron glove? 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 21:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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== Request to Undelete the Page == | ||
| Hi Jimfleak, | |||
| The ] was deemed as copyright infringement due to this book: https://itfes.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Business-Model-Ontology-1.pdf | |||
| I’m new to Misplaced Pages and have written about Airpaz on my page. Could you please review and unban the page "Airpaz"? I would like to redirect the page there. | |||
| I am the author of the book. In the book you can see a thesis, which is my thesis which I also defended successfully. As this was the reason for the deletion I believe the deletion of the draft should be canceled as I am allowing the use of the texts. If for any reason Misplaced Pages still doesn't want to use the same texts, I would like to have the chance to rewrite them. I would need a few days to do so. I didn't had any chance now because the page was immediately deleted so I couldn't do anything about it, or explain the situation. I did mention before that I wrote a thesis on the topic of BMO. It is on my talk page from October 23. Discussion with ] . | |||
| As a beginner on Misplaced Pages, I would appreciate your guidance. ] (]) 10:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| The following is the given reason for deletion which I oppose: | |||
| :{{u|Jodysetiawan23}} You can sign your comments automatically using four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. When the existing draft is accepted, the reviewer can ask me to unprotect the article name. No point at present since it's nowhere near acceptable. See ] and ] and note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls, also see ] and note that you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, management structure, turnover or profits. Also read ] and ] and note that there shouldn't be ''any'' url external links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections. ] - ] 16:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ] ] ] deleted page ] (]: Unambiguous ] of <nowiki>https://itfes.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Business-Model-Ontology-1.pdf</nowiki>) ] (]) 07:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Season's Greetings == | |||
| :], You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Misplaced Pages, as outlined in ]. That applies ''even'' to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state '''clearly and explicitly''' that the text is '''public domain'''. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Misplaced Pages, as described ]; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. Your text was tagged '''ALL RIGHTS RESERVED No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means – electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise – without prior written permission, except for the inclusion of brief quotations in a review'''. That is not consistent with our requirements of free use for any purpose by anyone. Your images also appear to be taken from the book. Copyright violations will not be restored. You say you are giving permission, but we can't verify who you are, or whether you or ITFES own the copyright; we can only go by the published copyright notice | |||
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| :You have an obvious ], which you are required to declare on your user page. Please don't write about your own research. | |||
| '''Hello Jimfbleak:''' Enjoy the ''']''' and ''']''' if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, ] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 06:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :A master's thesis is unlikely to be regarded as ]. Much of the text is unreferenced, referenced to your own publications, or to other primary sources. we need independent third-party sources ] - ] 08:06, 11 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I understand what you are saying. The theory of Business model ontology is not my own research. It is research that started in 1997 and i am not a part of it. I only say that some of the texts I used are mine and my thesis made a metaresearch on the topic. I didn't create this knowledge. You are right that a master thesis is not notable research that can create some new type of scientific knowledge. No doubt about that. Anyways, I will read more about ] about the texts that overlap. ] (]) 08:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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:], thanks, best to you and yours too ] - ] 06:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
| ::::The email was sent from itfes to wikipedia just now and I sent you an email with the content. ] (]) 10:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Happy Holidays == | |||
| :::::] OK, I'll restore the text, to which you should add the permission pending template as per the instructions as soon as possible. Note that the article may, of course be challenged on other grounds, such as incomplete or non-third-party referencing ] - ] 12:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Thank you. I added the permission pending template. ] (]) 12:51, 12 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| == Guide me on publishing the article Global Alliance for Mass Entrepreneurship == | |||
| '''Hello Jimfbleak:''' Enjoy the ''']''' and ''']''' if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, ] (]) 13:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :] just back from holiday, many thanks, best to you too ] - ] 16:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| I saw that the article was not published due to conflict of interest reason but I would like to declare that I am in no way related to the Global Alliance for Mass Entrepreneurship.It is a national organisation and no page was existing so I decided to make a page.Please let me know what I can correct in it so as to publish the article. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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| :Replied on user talk page, unreferenced fact-free promo ] - ] 12:46, 12 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| <nowiki>I am writing an article titled 'Kibirige Desire Edward" and just noticed that it was previously used but deleted on its submission. I hope you do not affect mine, it is an author's biography. (~~~~) </nowiki> ] (]) 06:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion of MGN events listing == | |||
| :], your article will be judged on its own merits ] - ] 16:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Hello, | |||
| I'm new to Misplaced Pages and still trying to find my feet. | |||
| <nowiki>I recently created a page for MGN events, however it was flagged as promotional by another user and then removed by you. I had tried to keep the page as factual as possible, and tried to avoid promotional language, but unfortunately it must have still sounded like an advert (it's difficult to describe a company without giving info on what they do that could be seen as promotional). Would you be willing to reinstate the page if I insert the {{</nowiki>]<nowiki>}} tag? Any advice gratefully received.</nowiki> ] (]) 13:07, 12 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :], I've given a detailed reply on your talk page. Successfully creating a company page is one of the most difficult challenges on Misplaced Pages, and isn't really something a new editor should attempt. You said that you ''tried to keep the page as factual as possible'' but didn't actually give us any real facts. You said ''tried to avoid promotional language'', but all you wrote was your company's aims, and the unsupported claim ''The company is recognised for its expertise...'' | |||
| :Your text was unverified apart from four media links, three of which were to reputable sources, but they were just quoting Walker's opinions, and the fourth was a blog. There is nothing worth restoring, start from scratch, following the guidance on your talk to the letter. I'm not sure your refs are of any value, but I'll copy them to your talk next ] - ] 14:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Article deletion (Draft:Ira Vouk) == | |||
| Dear Jimfbleak. Thank you for your quick revision of ]. It was deleted by you due to "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion". I would like to inquire if it's allowed to re-write the page in a different manner and remove any references that may be deemed promotional? Ira Vouk is a notable figure in the hospitality industry and I believe that her contributions deserve a wiki page. I admire her for her work but I'm capable of remaining neutral and producing a less "colorful" article. Will you consider reinstating the draft so that I can edit it? If not, would you be so kind to suggest any other options that are available for this article to exist in wiki space? | |||
| sincerely, | |||
| --] (]) 15:14, 13 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :Replied on user talk page ] - ] 16:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Kanha Singh and Vel Singh, The dacoits of Bhinmal == | |||
| Hi Jimfbleak. At 12.14 today you deleted ], it has now been recreated as ]. As far as I can recall, this is identical to the deleted article. Presumably the same argument for deletion holds for the recreated article, whilst as the editor is just copypasting ] under different titles should the user-page also be rev-delled? - ] (]) 12:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :], thanks. Not sure what to do about this user. That article appears to be in good faith, but there are obvious competency issues ] - ] 12:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::Agreed. Unfortunately their chosen topics are fairly contentious and subject to PoV pushing. I already have most on my checklist. Thanks anyway - ] (]) 13:07, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::He's started recreating it again at ]. I don't think he will stop voluntarily, and the ] problems are getting worse - ] (]) 14:08, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::], thanks. Blocked for a week now... ] - ] 14:54, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Thanks - ] (]) 14:55, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion of ] == | |||
| {{ping|Jimfbleak}} You gave me no time to respond - I'd only just started the article. I assumed an article in Draft was not public and therefore not subject to Copyright, so I copied the information from its source to start the article, so I didn't have to flick back and forth across various sources. I had no intention at all of publishing the material as it was, to the public. Can you please either remove or hide the section of the article body that contains the copyrighted information and reinstate the article, or undelete the article so I can do this myself? ] (]) 21:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :@] {{tpw}} No part of Misplaced Pages is suitable to have copyright material placed in it. Breach of copyright is actually the use, misappropriation, of someone else's intellectual property, an unlawful act. Copyright material is removed as soon as it is spotted. This protects the intellectual property of the copyright owner and protects Misplaced Pages. | |||
| :A firm suggestion is for you to rewrite the material from scratch. You will be unable to "hide" the section yourself, and your request simply makes work for others to perform. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 21:54, 15 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::@] Thank you for responding. I didn't know the general public could read an unfinished, unpublished Draft. The information I copied was only to have access to key dates in the history of EPTA, tiresome to have to fick back and forth between pages. But at no time was I intending to publish the copied text as is, and it was never my intention to deliberately "make work for others to perform". Can Sandbox be used to draft the article without being continually pulled down while it's under construction? ] (]) 22:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::I am gobsmacked that an editor with ten years of experience would be unaware that drafts are available to the public. (It may well have been unfinished, which technically applies to every single article in main space as well as draft space, but it wasn't unpublished, as should be obvious from the button labeled "publish changes" which you have collected over seven thousand times. If you insist that you didn't know, I'll assume good faith and accept that you didn't know. However, that doesn't change the well-established Misplaced Pages rules not to mention the law which prohibits the hosting of copyrighted material.]] 23:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thank you for ]. “Gobsmacked” as you say you are, it has not been my practice to create new articles, only to help improve existing ones. This is only the third article I have in ten years attempted, the first two in 2016, and both of them started their lives in Sandbox, not as Draft articles. Nevertheless, I hope someone will soon be inspired write an article for ], as it is mentioned in several articles, and seems to me notable enough to warrant its own article. | |||
| ::::In the Misplaced Pages notice at the top of the Draft Article page, it states: “Draft article not currently submitted for review. This is a draft Articles for creation (AfC) submission. It is not currently pending review,” which I took to mean that no-one other than me could see it. The 'publish changes' button I took to be an OK button in the context of Draft, similar to the 'Print' button to save Page Setup in Print dialogues, that doesn't actually print anything. | |||
| ::::I assumed this Wizard would allow me to work on the article and only present it to the world after review and publication. Now, I know better, and thank you for clarifying this, albeit paternalistically. This is the first time I have used the Article Creation Wizard, and it wasn’t clear to me that draft articles are ipso facto published articles, leading me to wonder what the point of a draft or sandbox actually is. ] (]) 23:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Follow up on ZKH Industrial Supply page
- Hi Jimfbleak,
- Thanks and well received the latest feedback. I will adjust the content accordingly.
- Don't get me wrong. I don't want to create promotional content for the organisation, I just want to write some existing facts about the firm so that audience can have more visibility about the company when they search it. The company is a Chinese firm and has listed on NYSE since 2023. Currently most of third-parties (like news) are from local and not in english language, I wonder if that's acceptable if I use them in citation? And is there a minumum number of reference needed?
- Besides reference issue, regarding the latest edits, are any other parts that I need to adjust my wording?
- Thanks and looking forward to your feedback.
- Grace
Grace at ZKH (talk) 11:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Christmas spirit
I see they tried your generosity a smidgen too far 😇😈. Folk think that making the declaration gives them great latitude. As a pedantic old scrote I thought of Bah! and Humbug!. Please never stop being generous, especially with rope. Mwahahahaha! 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 17:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Fiddle, I was recently criticised for being too gung-ho, so I'm playing nicely over the festive season, merry Christmas Jimfbleak - talk to me? 20:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I doubt one will please everyone. Whatever you do, do it justifiably, as you do normally. Festive leniency of a good concept. A velvet fist in an iron glove? 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 21:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Request to Undelete the Page
Hi Jimfleak,
I’m new to Misplaced Pages and have written about Airpaz on my page. Could you please review and unban the page "Airpaz"? I would like to redirect the page there.
As a beginner on Misplaced Pages, I would appreciate your guidance. Jodysetiawan23 (talk) 10:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Jodysetiawan23 You can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~. When the existing draft is accepted, the reviewer can ask me to unprotect the article name. No point at present since it's nowhere near acceptable. See conflict of interest and independent verifiable sources and note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls, also see the notability guidelines and note that you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, management structure, turnover or profits. Also read no promotion and copyright and note that there shouldn't be any url external links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Season's Greetings
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Hello Jimfbleak: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Drm310, thanks, best to you and yours too Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
Hello Jimfbleak: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Abishe (talk) 13:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Abishe just back from holiday, many thanks, best to you too Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Notification of consent
I am writing an article titled 'Kibirige Desire Edward" and just noticed that it was previously used but deleted on its submission. I hope you do not affect mine, it is an author's biography. (~~~~) Habombo (talk) 06:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Habombo, your article will be judged on its own merits Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)