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== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 May 2024 == |
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== New source for Moldova's official language == |
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The actual source is from ] (very legit source) but I think it can be replaced for an even better source, the official ] website. This is the link: https://multimedia.parlament.md/adoptat-de-parlament-sintagma-limba-romana-va-fi-introdusa-in-toate-legile-republicii-moldova/ as a side note, it also says all official texts that included the denomination "Moldovan language" will be effectively replaced to Romanian language. ] (]) 19:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Change the Gini index for the year 2019 to 2021: change 26.0 to 25.7 (decrease) |
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Link: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.GINI?locations=MD ] (]) 12:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a ] and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EEp --> — ] (]) 07:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:Well actually I think the change was pretty clear and it's been {{done}}, thank you @]! ] (]) 15:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== No such thing as "too long to read comfortably" as long as the information is relevant == |
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:No one is disputing that the Moldovan parliment declared Romanian the official langauge for government use. |
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:'''This does not mean that Moldovan doesn't exist as a national language'''. Attempting to obscure information about their relationship and history does not improve the article and it does not help readers understand the situation; The only thing it does is take sides in a nationalist POV push. The government descision does not mean Moldovan disappears from use or never existed. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b> // ] :: ] </b></span> 20:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::Dude, what are you talking about? Did you even read 2 phrases of the wikipage ]? '''Moldovan, also known historically as Moldavian, was a local name of the Romanian language in Moldova.''' So it literally says it was the local name of the Romanian language (not even valid anymore, as it's a defunct name) yer you still claim Moldovan is a separate language. What's your point here? Your arguments make no sense. |
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::Your edit attempts to shoehorn "Moldovan language" seem to be the ones coming from someone with a nationalist POV push. It's crystal clear that Moldovan was just a local name and not a language as you claim. As it has never been one. You can find all of this perfectly explained here: ] Wikipage. |
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::And I would kindly ask you to stop with your disruptive behavior as I've just asked for a source replacement here, for an even better one. If you want to talk about your own POV you have the section from above, as you've made it. ] (]) 20:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC) |
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The message "This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably" is just silly. ] (]) 20:13, 10 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Reminds me of Filipino. The govt wanted to downplay that they were imposing one ethnic language, Tagalog, over the others by calling it "Filipino" and claiming that it was a different language. This ran into a speed bump because Filipino citizens are allowed translators in court if they do not speak fluent Filipino. One defendant demanded a translator because he only spoke Tagalog. The judge ruled that providing a translator would be frivolous because Filipino ''is'' Tagalog. |
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There is a difference here, in that Moldavian is written in Cyrillic. Not that that makes it a language, of course, but it does affect govt publications. I presume that that aspect of the standard is already defunct, at least in govt-controlled areas, in which case all that's left is the choice of name. I think "Romanian (officially 'Moldovan')" should be adequate, but added "pending change in law" for clarification. ] (]) 20:07, 19 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{tq|I presume that that aspect of the standard is already defunct, at least in govt-controlled areas, in which case all that's left is the choice of name.}} that is correct. It is on Moldova's constitution that "Moldovan" is to be written in the Latin alphabet. This alphabet portion will be removed once Romanian replaces Moldovan as it will be superfluous. And that Filipino/Tagalog note is an interesting addition. ] ] ] 20:26, 19 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::"Moldavian" as you call it is Stalin's invention. At first, the Moldovan SSR adopted Romanian orthography, but when exporting revolution to Romania failed, Stalin invented bastardized Cyrillic Moldovan. That is, it was not a return to Cyrillic Romanian. "Moldavian" was never a real language, only an orthographic tool of a totalitarian state to isolate the same people divided between Romania and Moldova. ]<small> ►]</small> 01:34, 22 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Well, to attribute this "invention" to Stalin would be a superoversimplification. Please see the detailed exposition of the issue in "]". There were plenty of moldovenists even before Stalin grabbed power. ] (]) 15:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Language law published in Monitorul Official == |
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The law changing all references to “Romanian language” has been published in the Monitorul Official today () so we can finally go ahead and change the references. ] (]) 10:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{u|De wafelenbak}}, as the law project stated, legislative changes will take place within 30 days of the law entering into force. That was only today. When the constitution is changed we will see lots of press releases and articles about it. Right now there are not any, because it has not happened. ] ] ] 17:59, 24 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::By the way, please do not revert . Because, as you say the official language formally remains Moldovan and the statement in question is formally false. Or you expand the text in this place with detailed explanation. ] (]) 18:06, 24 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:::I interpreted that edit as if you thought the 1991 declaration of independence was outdated because of the 2023 changes. Apologies. ] ] ] 18:13, 24 March 2023 (UTC) |
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] (]) 16:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC) |
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scrieti la gini index 25,7 intrati pe linkul de la bibliografie] (]) 16:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:EEp --> not communicating in English. ] (]) 17:06, 4 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:I suggest you read over ] <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">]</span>🍁 20:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I seem to be blocked from editing the page about the country here, but not its talk page? |
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Please replace ] with ] in the first sentence: '''Moldova''', officially the '''Republic of Moldova''', is a ] country in ], on the northeastern corner of the ]. |
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However, I think there is a typo in the "Administrative divisions"-section. "largest city in Moldova is Chișinău with a population of appprox" looks strange to me, but on the other hand, I have not studied English for decades! ] (]) 16:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC) |
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The ] are located south of the ]. |
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:The correct spelling is "approx". I have amended it. ] (]) 14:48, 12 July 2023 (UTC) |
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The ] are not in the vicinity of ]. |
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I believe the author meant to speak about the ] instead of the ]. |
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The intended description of ] located "on the northeastern corner of the ]" is correct. ] (]) 02:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== "...on the northeast corner of the Balkans"? No. "The Carpathians", perhaps. == |
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The first sentence of the lede states <i>"Moldova, officially the Republic of Moldova, is a landlocked country in Eastern Europe, <b>on the northeastern corner of the Balkans</b>"</i> (emphasis added). This is a peculiar claim, first because "the Balkan states" generally refers to Bulgaria and the nations on the eastern shore of the Adriatic Sea (Serbia, Kosovo, North Macedonia, etc.), which Moldova is nowhere near. But there is, in fact another mountain range that lies <u>between</u> the Baltic Mountains and Moldova: the Carpathians. So to describe Moldova as being "on the northeast corner of the Balkans" is to dismiss the fact that there are at least 150 miles/240km of plains, plus the Carpathian Range, <u>between</u> the Baltic Range and the closest point of Moldova (although there is still 50 miles/80km between the Carpathians and the closest part of Moldova, so "on the corner" is a stretch). If no one can argue persuasively why this should not be changed, I will correct it.<br>] (]) 00:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC) |
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'''Vandalization alert:''' the sentence/phrase "pierogi (called 'Chiroște' in Moldovan) are another traditional staple and are often stuffed with a soft cheese in Moldova." is factually incorrect as any Moldovan/Romanian person may confirm. |
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== Etymology section - German name of Moldova River is incorrect == |
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'''Proposed change:''' Delete the sentence/phrase |
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The etymology section notes that the German name for the Moldova River is Moldau. Moldau is the German name for the Vltava River in Czechia. The German for Moldova is Moldova. See the Deutches article on the Moldova River: https://de.wikipedia.org/Moldova_(Fluss). The article is protected beyond my edit level. Is anyone with higher access motivated to correct this small thing? ] (]) 22:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Pierogi is a Polish food, and it's something akin to dumplings. No such word "Chiroște" exists in Romanian: https://dexonline.ro/definitie/chiroște (or 'Moldovan' as it was written by the person who vandalized the article), neither in cultural register of speech nor in informal register of speech anywhere in Moldova. ] (]) 23:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:I can verify from a simple search that the dish exists and is well-known in Moldova. The statement is sourced (albeit to blogs), and the article about ] also includes the same statement with a different reference. I have, however, amended the sentence for other corrections, including the reference to the ]. –] (]]) 04:57, 19 October 2023 (UTC) |
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The etymology section notes that the German name for the Moldova River is Moldau. Moldau is the German name for the Vltava River in Czechia. The German for Moldova is Moldova. See the Deutches article on the Moldova River: https://de.wikipedia.org/Moldova_(Fluss). The article is protected beyond my edit level. Is anyone with higher access motivated to correct this small thing? Catercorn (talk) 22:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 07:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Done, thank you @LeinadWalter! 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)