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Sorry about reverting your edit in Glen Jacobs. I think we saw the same vandalism, but you reverted and saved just before I went to revert it. In the process I accidentally reverted you. My bad, -- ''']]]<sup>]</sup>''' 16:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | Sorry about reverting your edit in Glen Jacobs. I think we saw the same vandalism, but you reverted and saved just before I went to revert it. In the process I accidentally reverted you. My bad, -- ''']]]<sup>]</sup>''' 16:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
==You lost yer ollies or wha?== | ==You lost yer ollies or wha?== | ||
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==Undertaker's Birth Year== | ==Undertaker's Birth Year== | ||
Not that I care much for this debate, but I noticed that obsessed with wrestling has his birth year as 1962 also. I absolutely agree imdb is not reliable in the least, but don't you think OWW is? Just curious to what you think. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC) | Not that I care much for this debate, but I noticed that obsessed with wrestling has his birth year as 1962 also. I absolutely agree imdb is not reliable in the least, but don't you think OWW is? Just curious to what you think. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
I checked it out and you're right, it does have some evidence, so it is more reliable. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC) | I checked it out and you're right, it does have some evidence, so it is more reliable. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Your edit to == | |||
== ] == | |||
Well, you've left me a message on my talk page. I must say, I didn't copy all the texts from imdb.com but I wrote something into this article because if you want to hear my opinion, this article needs to be created. Please help editing this article because I don't want it deleted. So please help. Thanks. ] 09:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I spent nearly half an hour to create this article. So please edit these textes from this article so that it won't have the same texts as imdb.com. Thanks. ] 09:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Sly Stallone notable roles == | |||
F.I.S.T and Nighthawks remain some of his best movies he's made. It doesn't have the world wide recognition like Rocky or Rambo, but similar to Cop Land, they both have good casts and are regarded as some of his best performances. Just because you feel they aren't doesn't give you the right to say what is well known and what is not. You can disscuss this at Stallone's page as well. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:00:06, 15 June 2007| 00:06, 15 June 2007|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
== Re-Sly Stallone notable roles == | |||
So what, would you take away Cop Land as on of his known roles. Sorry, but there are plenty of movies that fall into F.I.S.T. and Nighthawks category, films well received, but don't have the great recognition. Cop Land is a terrific movie with a great cast that was reviewed very well by most critics, as well as F.I.S.T and Nighthawks. These three movies don't get the attention they deserve, but that doesn't stop it from being his best movies. If you're going to change for Stallone, you might as well go ahead and change each and every other actor’s page. Not my fault if you don't read the reviews of film, good day. | |||
== Stallone == | |||
What are you talking about, near every review I read for both movies were positive. There are links to both movies where you could look at reviews; obviously it's not just opinion, if most reviews are positive of the films. These are two very good performances by Stallone early in his career, before he opted out to be an action he-man, and deserve attention for those who doubt him as an actor. Reviews will agree with me, so like Cop Land, neither were box office successes, but they were critical success, what more do you want. | |||
== African American == | |||
Your repeated changes to the African American page aren't constructive. And furthermore, you refuse to present any justification for those changes on the talk page. If you can provide something more substantial than "it's just not true" please post it on the article's talk page. ] 00:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
== edit summaries == | |||
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==Help - English/British== | |||
As someone who previously supported using English on the ] page, I would very much like your help. I am having great problems at the ] talk page, with one user who states Manning cannot be English, mainly because he has Irish and Jewish ancestry. He fails to see that it is a unwritten consensus that we use English/Scottish/Welsh, and to be honest I feel that he and I arguing each other is getting no where. He also fails to accept the comprimse a third user suggested. Anyway, I would be very grateful if you could help out, I could do with some support! --] 15:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Ürsülänqus == | |||
Fine! I admit that I'm the one who worked under Morris Munroe but not under Ürsülänqus because Ürsülänqus just made two or three edits to the same article and that's not an evidence to blame me! I want you to stop~adding nonsense to this user if you want to have peace! ] 14:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I agree with you concerning the silly comments of Giacomodalsace. He's a Yank pretending to be English, but is running a black-op. Feet-us (like a foot disease) is next, I suppose.--] (]) 23:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Regarding The Undertaker
Experimenting? I have been doing this for quite sometime, thank you! You know, I really don't care for the Mark Calaway article, but if you want to immerse the article in the excrement of your own idiocy, fine. The man was born in 1962, like it or not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thegoodson (talk • contribs) .
Okay, I apologize for being rude, but some of the edits are just so off on the article, not to mention the rest of wikipedia. People just don't trust the info. Mark Calaway was NOT born in 1960. He was born in 1962. I watched the WWE(back when it was WWF) for over 16 years. The Undertaker, along with Bret Hart, were my favorite wrestlers. I know exactly when the Undertaker was born and every source claims 1962. Why is everyone changing it? First they had 1965 and I corrected it. Then they came up with 1964, and again I corrected. Then now, 1960? It was 1962! Some sources for that:
Why is it that on wikipedia he has to have like 3 different birthdates? User:TheGoodSon
You know, I really don't care. The man was born in 1962...I was a huge fan of the Undertaker! So you don't know where 1960 and 1965 (yes, that was there too) came from, yet you are quick to downplay several other sources that all claim 1962. It says a lot more than just opinions of various users. Man I wish I had those magazines I used to, or I wish the WWE still had the birthdates of the wrestlers on the bios at their site. Too bad... User:TheGoodSon
- Hello Steve. I removed the billed height of the Undertaker because 6' 11.5" is nonsense. I can't imagine the difference between 4 inches of a human. Please convinve me or explain why the billed height has been added to Undertaker. Thanks. Greetings. MM 10:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination on LGBT Simpsons Characters
It's probably just a case of copying and pasting a bit too much, but there's no need to add the "See also" links to the top of the page linking to the AfD template and so on. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Another Move
I noticed your comments on the Wrestling Wikiproject talk page about moving pages. Since you agree with me that moves should be done, come support the request to move Glen Jacobs to Kane (wrestler). You can do so here. Thanks. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 01:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
User:Mines45
You said: "I hope it's alright posting this; I wasn't sure whether it'd fit on any of the noticeboards. Could you do something about User:Mines45 please? He adds incorrect information to articles, and has removed the warnings from his talk page to stop. He then posted this on my talk page, which, according to my Googling , is quite offensive."
- This user has been blocked for a month. He was previously blocked for one week for similar behaviour and his continued blanking of his discussion page showed bad faith. --Yamla 15:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot. Cheers, SteveLamacq43 17:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Kerry King
Sorry if this is the wrong place, but i recently saw that you added some tags to the Kerry King article. I was hoping you could tell me on how to improve it a bit, like what to add and improve on, also perhaps enter the tag where a source is required so the article can be rid of the tag, Thanks M3tal H3ad 13:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Daniel Craig
Daniel Craig article- please do not delete the information about him going to Hilbre High as it is true. He also played for Hoylake Rugby club which you appear to have deleted. Have a nice day. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.229.27.251 (talk) 13:17, 19 November 2006
Sorry
Sorry about reverting your edit in Glen Jacobs. I think we saw the same vandalism, but you reverted and saved just before I went to revert it. In the process I accidentally reverted you. My bad, -- THL 16:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
You lost yer ollies or wha?
moggy & sin shifter ain't scouse? Prithy, do tell from whence they doth emanate:) Cheers, Vera, Chuck & Dave 17:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, my grandad used "sin shifter" to refer to the chaplain they used to go to in WW1, and he was Irish. As for moggy, no etymology lists it as Scouse, and between the 80 years of me and my dad's Scouse living, neither of us have heard it regarded as such. You also provided no reference to the contrary so... SteveLamacq43 18:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- LOL! Yeah, could well be Irish - Ok, you can have those la! Best wishes, Vera, Chuck & Dave 18:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
For you
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
For your reverting of vandalism on wrestling articles, to make sure they are vandalism-free. Thanks. -- Mikedk9109 (hit me up) 23:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC) |
Re:
I can get more than one barnstar, haha. I just think you deserved it because you are a truly good editor and I respect that.-- Mikedk9109 (hit me up) 21:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Image question
You said: "Dear Yamla, I had planned on downloading this image, and editing it to remove red eye, bluriness etc. however, as it's released under the Creative Commons licence, I'm not sure if I could then upload the edited version as I could with a public domain image. Even if I do give the intended attribution."
- Yeap, provided you still give credit to the original authors. See Creative Commons and Creative Commons licenses. The text of the particular license would be useful as well, of course, but the point of the cc attribution license is to "Permit others to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work and derivative works based upon it only if they give you credit." (emphasis mine). --Yamla 16:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for your help! SteveLamacq43 16:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Slash
You don't give orders on Misplaced Pages. Furthermore, I edit as i see fit as you do. Don't like it? Stop coming to Misplaced Pages. 24.148.67.71 01:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
The first sentence reads: "An African American (also Afro-American, Black American) is a member of an ethnic group in the United States whose ancestors, usually in predominant part, were indigenous to Africa."
So...your view that the terms African-American and Black American are "not the same" seems inaccurate. 24.148.67.71 01:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Tony McCoy / A. P. McCoy
As a past contributor to the article currently entitled A. P. McCoy, please could you register a vote at Talk:A. P. McCoy as to which title you prefer - "Tony McCoy" or "A. P. McCoy". The vote closes at 12pm GMT on January 1st 2007. Thanks -- Zafonic 20:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Torrie Wilson
Here, I give you a link http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Torrie_Wilson#Is_Torrie_really_5.27_7.22.3F.3F.3F
- Just read the discussion page of Torrie Wilson and soon you will recognize that I have evidences for her peak height. You can also see Torrie Wilson and Dawn Marie on youtube.com- There Torrie looks exactly two inches taller than 5' 7" tall Dawn Marie. So please, do not remove her peak height again. Thanks. Morris Munroe 10:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't care if this information is not passable for you. I'm also a user just like you and as a Wikipedian you have to respect edits from other users. And trust me, I'm hardly one who vandalizes pages on Misplaced Pages because I accept the Misplaced Pages rules and it is certainly not a vandalism if I add Torrie's peak height. There are several pages which say that Torrie is 5' 9", you see. And wwe.com also doesn't tell the truth. Take Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for example. He is also listed as 6' 3" current and 6' 5" with his peak height. Now, please, do not revert my edits any more. Thanks a lot. Morris Munroe 14:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Fortunately Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's second height has been removed too. So I'll satisfied with Torrie's height as 5' 7". But if I'll recognize that other wrestlers are noted with two versions of height then I'll add 5' 9" as Torrie's peak height again. PS: If you want to hear my opinion: Torrie is never 5' 7". She is a lot over. wwe.com is off. Morris Munroe 16:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please read WP:RS and WP:CITE to learn how you can cite information. You are not permitted to add your own opinions as to her height, this violates WP:NOR. You may also wish to read WP:V. --Yamla 16:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I've added Torrie's peak height again because Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson also has two versions of his height. Morris Munroe 21:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please read WP:RS and WP:CITE to learn how you can cite information. You are not permitted to add your own opinions as to her height, this violates WP:NOR. You may also wish to read WP:V. --Yamla 16:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Fortunately Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's second height has been removed too. So I'll satisfied with Torrie's height as 5' 7". But if I'll recognize that other wrestlers are noted with two versions of height then I'll add 5' 9" as Torrie's peak height again. PS: If you want to hear my opinion: Torrie is never 5' 7". She is a lot over. wwe.com is off. Morris Munroe 16:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't care if this information is not passable for you. I'm also a user just like you and as a Wikipedian you have to respect edits from other users. And trust me, I'm hardly one who vandalizes pages on Misplaced Pages because I accept the Misplaced Pages rules and it is certainly not a vandalism if I add Torrie's peak height. There are several pages which say that Torrie is 5' 9", you see. And wwe.com also doesn't tell the truth. Take Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for example. He is also listed as 6' 3" current and 6' 5" with his peak height. Now, please, do not revert my edits any more. Thanks a lot. Morris Munroe 14:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Regarding West Derby
http://www.bartelby.com/68/45/5645.html http://en.wikipedia.org/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/American_and_British_English_Differences
Please do not revert spelling in articles when it is standard British English. To falsely claim that a word is misspelt because you prefer to use the American version in a British article is more than a little trite. Giacomodalsace 14:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
List of Famous Men
Thanks Steve, I have come across many different stats for Toni ranging from 185 to 196, but DXRAW seems oblivious to this. http://www.soccerphile.com/soccerphile/teams/italy-06.html
http://www.goal.com/en-us/Giocatore.aspx?IdPersona=3005
http://www.123football.com/players/t/luca-toni/index.htm
http://football2006.bluehyppo.com/roster.asp?teamname=ITA
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=soc-wc/2006/bio.aspx?pid=1709Halbared 16:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- So what do you consider a definitive source? DXRAW 02:36, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
The Rock
I didn't vandalize this page. Mind your own business! Morris Munroe 14:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- There is nothing to discuss. Just leave me alone. After a long time I'll remove your "warnings" again. Morris Munroe 14:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- OK, sorry that was a misunderstanding. Morris Munroe 14:35, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, sory about my behaviour yesterday. I just had a bad mood. Well, I still don't understand why that was a vandalism. I just changed the 6' 5" height to 1,95 m and so on. Why is that vandalism? Morris Munroe 19:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- OK, sorry that was a misunderstanding. Morris Munroe 14:35, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Nicole Kidman
Hi. You edited my addition of Virginia Woolf as a notable role for Kidman because she won an Oscar. That doesnt mean it isnt worth mentioning. Just because she won an Ocsar for it, doesnt mean that it isnt notable. Take the page for Hilary Swank as an instance. She won 2 oscars and both are noted on her "notable roles" section and those werent put there by me. What might be obvious to you, isnt obvious to everyone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NYKenny (talk • contribs) 11:13, 22 January 2007.
- And I'll add further precedence at Marisa Tomei and Kim Basinger. Thanks for your other tidying up but this one isn't worth getting into a revert war over. --Steve (Slf67) 00:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Brock Lesnar
Please do not edit that page the edits are terrible. I dont want to discuss anything. Plus his Amateur Wrestling accomplishments where included in my editing don´t delete it. If you find anything wrong with my edit tell me(copy-paste) what it is and we can solve it or else i suggest end of discusson. Coolvanillaboy 16:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- How about your repeated breaks of reference format... uncompliant in the face of conversation.. and your repeatedly blocked under your other usernames yet you persist in creating new files to perform the same edits... the removal of complete sections the adding of unneeded photos... the adding of POV statement etc etc etc -- Paulley
- Sorry for using your talk page there SteveLamacq43.. but i think i have actual got through to him.. and i am working with him to weed out his good edits from the format breaking. anyway sorry again -- ~~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulley (talk • contribs) 14:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
- yea he has been blocked again but only for a short time and i know he will just come back... i just dont see what possible reason he has to do that same edit... he really doesnt see anything wrong its crazy -- Paulley
- He's back, but this time as User:Martin181 again. --- Paulley
- yea he has been blocked again but only for a short time and i know he will just come back... i just dont see what possible reason he has to do that same edit... he really doesnt see anything wrong its crazy -- Paulley
Comma before 'and'
Hi, just so you know - it is acceptable in English to have a comma before an and in a list (ie one, two, and three). -Localzuk 16:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- In that case, should we not use it on the PETA article as it is an American organisation? :-) (Sorry, feeling a bit pedantic, been on a conference all day).-Localzuk 16:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Undertaker's Birth Year
Not that I care much for this debate, but I noticed that obsessed with wrestling has his birth year as 1962 also. I absolutely agree imdb is not reliable in the least, but don't you think OWW is? Just curious to what you think. Bmg916 13:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I checked it out and you're right, it does have some evidence, so it is more reliable. Bmg916 14:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Your edit to this article
Well, you've left me a message on my talk page. I must say, I didn't copy all the texts from imdb.com but I wrote something into this article because if you want to hear my opinion, this article needs to be created. Please help editing this article because I don't want it deleted. So please help. Thanks. Mukulis 09:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- I spent nearly half an hour to create this article. So please edit these textes from this article so that it won't have the same texts as imdb.com. Thanks. Mukulis 09:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Sly Stallone notable roles
F.I.S.T and Nighthawks remain some of his best movies he's made. It doesn't have the world wide recognition like Rocky or Rambo, but similar to Cop Land, they both have good casts and are regarded as some of his best performances. Just because you feel they aren't doesn't give you the right to say what is well known and what is not. You can disscuss this at Stallone's page as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.132.68.92 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 15 June 2007.
Re-Sly Stallone notable roles
So what, would you take away Cop Land as on of his known roles. Sorry, but there are plenty of movies that fall into F.I.S.T. and Nighthawks category, films well received, but don't have the great recognition. Cop Land is a terrific movie with a great cast that was reviewed very well by most critics, as well as F.I.S.T and Nighthawks. These three movies don't get the attention they deserve, but that doesn't stop it from being his best movies. If you're going to change for Stallone, you might as well go ahead and change each and every other actor’s page. Not my fault if you don't read the reviews of film, good day.
Stallone
What are you talking about, near every review I read for both movies were positive. There are links to both movies where you could look at reviews; obviously it's not just opinion, if most reviews are positive of the films. These are two very good performances by Stallone early in his career, before he opted out to be an action he-man, and deserve attention for those who doubt him as an actor. Reviews will agree with me, so like Cop Land, neither were box office successes, but they were critical success, what more do you want.
African American
Your repeated changes to the African American page aren't constructive. And furthermore, you refuse to present any justification for those changes on the talk page. If you can provide something more substantial than "it's just not true" please post it on the article's talk page. CJ 00:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
edit summaries
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing. — superbfc — 17:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Help - English/British
As someone who previously supported using English on the Daniel Craig page, I would very much like your help. I am having great problems at the Bernard Manning talk page, with one user who states Manning cannot be English, mainly because he has Irish and Jewish ancestry. He fails to see that it is a unwritten consensus that we use English/Scottish/Welsh, and to be honest I feel that he and I arguing each other is getting no where. He also fails to accept the comprimse a third user suggested. Anyway, I would be very grateful if you could help out, I could do with some support! --UpDown 15:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Ürsülänqus
Fine! I admit that I'm the one who worked under Morris Munroe but not under Ürsülänqus because Ürsülänqus just made two or three edits to the same article and that's not an evidence to blame me! I want you to stop~adding nonsense to this user if you want to have peace! Grumpanelli 14:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Invitation
Hello there
I see you are interested in the Life On Mars Television Series, as I am.
At the moment I have A Life On Mars Wikiproject currently up for approval by the Wikiproject Approval Council. As you are interested in Life On Mars I was wondering if you would be interested in adding your name and joining. If you are interested you can find it on Misplaced Pages: WikiProject Council/Proposals its right at the very bottom you cant miss it as its titled ‘Misplaced Pages: Wikiproject Life on Mars (Television Series)’. And after your name is added to Wikiproject propsals please add it to the main page Misplaced Pages:Wikiproject Life On Mars
If you are interested by all means feel free to join
Regards
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US Ar*e
I agree with you concerning the silly comments of Giacomodalsace. He's a Yank pretending to be English, but is running a black-op. Feet-us (like a foot disease) is next, I suppose.--andreasegde (talk) 23:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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