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== Ukrainian language ==
'''Initiated by ''' ] (]) '''at''' 13:59, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

=== Proposed parties ===
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*{{userlinks|Crash48}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|Rsk6400}}

;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
* https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?diff=1185244632

;Confirmation that other steps in ] have been tried
* ]
* https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Third_opinion&diff=prev&oldid=1176410679
* ]

=== Statement by Crash48 ===
In September 2023, I added into ] an outline of how and when the language ceased to be called ''Little Russian'', and started to be called ''Ukrainian''.

Rsk6400 reverted '''all''' mentions of ''Little Russian'' as the language's name, while allowing the mentions of ''Ukrainian'' to remain in the article. His stated reason for this was that "Little Russian is an imperialist name, intended to suppress Ukrainian identity". Abundant references such as https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ukrainian-language demonstrating that ''Little Russian'' used to be the language's primary name worldwide couldn't change Rsk6400's mind on including the name in the Misplaced Pages article.

In a discussion that followed, ] formulated his and Rsk6400's attitude even more clearly: "Little Russian is currently a weapon wielded directly in a genocidal war by its main instigator. Whatever its historical status has been, is normalizing it and perpetuating colonial violence." This, and other statements of Mzajac at the article talk page, e.g. disallowing citations from "imperialist" authors, are such an outright statement of ] that I took this case to ]. The only new participant from the noticeboard, ], supported mentioning ''Little Russian'' in the article as the historic name of the language. Rsk6400 to mentioning ''Little Russian'' as long as a "context" is added.

On Sep 22nd, Rsk6400 a "context" to the article to his satisfaction. On Oct 29th, I him asking whether there are still any objections against reinstating the references for the uses of the "colonial" name in notable 19th century works by notable Ukrainian authors, in Russian Empire as well as outside. Receiving no response in two weeks, I the references on Nov 13th, to be promptly by Rsk6400 with a message saying "You have no consensus for that."

Rsk6400 refuses to elaborate on his remaining objections against citations using the historic name, and in particular, my question addressed to him on the article talk page, dated Oct 29th, remains unanswered to this day.

I request that Rsk6400's behaviour be reprimanded as POV-pushing, and the historical references using the ''Little Russian'' language name to be reinstated in the article.
=== Statement by Rsk6400 ===
=== Statement by deepfriedokra ===

{{yo|Crash48}} This probably needs to be hashed out at ] instead of here, and I note that this falls into ], where ArbCom has already ] Best ] (]) 14:27, 15 November 2023 (UTC).

:This feels mostly like a content dispute, which needs ] . ] (]) 14:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

=== Statement by GhostOfDanGurney ===
Seconding Deepfriedokra that this feels more like an ] request rather than an ARBCOM filing. The community can definitely still handle this. &#8213;<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px">&nbsp;''''']'''''&nbsp;</span> 14:36, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

=== Statement by {Non-party} ===

Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
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=== Ukrainian language: Clerk notes ===
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=== Ukrainian language: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0> ===
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