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== Label o f picture ==
== Number of genders in the lead - missing ==

While I expect the exact number is a matter of dispute, it would be good to address this in the lead somehow. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 03:56, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

:It can't go in the lead unless it is already in the body and I'm not seeing it there. Also, it isn't even a meaningful thing to try to include because most conceptions of gender (other than those that insist on their being only two) do not see it as an enumerable set of discrete entities. If you ever see three people arguing about whether there are 2, 5 or 17 genders then you can safely ignore all of them as they are all making the same mistake. That said, I don't think that you ever will because I have never seen anybody seriously trying to count all the genders. (Although I have seen people doing that as a joke or as a way to be annoying.) The lead is currently doing a good job by saying "man, woman, or other gender identity". This correctly tells the reader that there are two extremely popular named gender identities, which they are presumably already familiar with, and also a range of others. I'm not seeing how we could improve on that. --] (]) 17:39, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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fyi: ] and ] include extensive discussion that helped form the compromise to develop the current lead:
{{tq2|'''Gender''' includes the social, psychological, cultural and behavioral aspects of being a ], ], or other ].<ref name="haig">{{cite journal|date=April 2004 |title=The Inexorable Rise of Gender and the Decline of Sex: Social Change in Academic Titles, 1945–2001 |url=https://www.oeb.harvard.edu/faculty/haig/publications_files/04inexorablerise.pdf |journal=Archives of Sexual Behavior |volume=33 |issue=2 |pages=87–96 |doi=10.1023/B:ASEB.0000014323.56281.0d |pmid=15146141|first1=David |last1=Haig |author-link1=David Haig (biologist) |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120615160110/https://www.oeb.harvard.edu/faculty/haig/Publications_files/04InexorableRise.pdf |archive-date=15 June 2012 |citeseerx=10.1.1.359.9143 |s2cid=7005542 }}</ref><ref name="www.who.int">{{Cite web|title=What do we mean by "sex" and "gender"? |publisher=] |access-date=26 November 2015 |url=https://apps.who.int/gender/whatisgender/en/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170130022356/https://apps.who.int/gender/whatisgender/en/ |archive-date=30 January 2017|url-status=dead }}</ref> Depending on the context, this may include ]-based ]s (i.e. ]s) and ].<ref name="udry">{{cite journal|date=November 1994|title=The Nature of Gender|journal=Demography|volume=31|issue=4|pages=561–573|doi=10.2307/2061790|jstor=2061790|pmid=7890091|first1=J. Richard|last1=Udry|s2cid=38476067|doi-access=free}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |last1=Lindqvist |first1=Anna |last2=Sendén |first2=Marie Gustafsson |last3=Renström |first3=Emma A. |title=What is gender, anyway: a review of the options for operationalising gender |journal=Psychology & Sexuality |date=2 October 2021 |volume=12 |issue=4 |pages=332–344 |doi=10.1080/19419899.2020.1729844|s2cid=213397968 |doi-access=free }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |author1=National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine |editor-first1=Nancy |editor-first2=Marshall |editor-first3=Tara |editor-last1=Bates |editor-last2=Chin |editor-last3=Becker |title=Measuring Sex, Gender Identity, and Sexual Orientation |date= 2022 |doi=10.17226/26424 |publisher=The National Academies Press |location=Washington, DC|pmid=35286054 |isbn=978-0-309-27510-1 |s2cid=247432505 }}</ref>}}
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The picture of a naked man abd a naked woman illustrate human sexes. It does not illustrate their genders (which as drawings they can't have). A depiction of human genders would need to involve some element of how two people behave as society provides for them to act according to their sexes. For instance, the male might be holding a hunting weapon appropriate for big game, and the female might be weaving a basket. ] (]) 16:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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:By the time the ] bearing that image launched, 1) The terms ''gender'' and ''sex'' had started to be used more interchangeably, and 2) most human societies had evolved far beyond the hunter/gatherer stage. ] (]) 19:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 17:42, 31 August 2023 (UTC)</span>
::This article has changed a lot since I first started working on it. Back then "gender" was the most common way to refer to whether any organism, human or otherwise, was male or female. And by "most common," I mean "in the English language overall," not "in the social sciences as written in English." If you said "sex," it'd be like that time on ''The Simpsons'', when Lisa said "These dolls are sexist" and the other girls laughed and said "Lisa said a dirty word!" As Haig writes, in and around 2003, the words were functionally interchangeable. I like that the article shows that the FDA changed its in-house definition of the term more than once. We could use a few examples from outside the U.S. ] (]) 20:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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    The rise of criticism against the WID approach led to the emergence of a new theory, that of Women and Development (WAD). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhum.group2 (talkcontribs) 17 May 2019 (UTC)

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    1. Muyoyeta, Lucy (2004). Women, Gender and Development (PDF). Zambia: Women for Change. ISBN 095351367X.

    Citation suggested

    In contemporary times, most literature and institutions that are concerned with women's role in development incorporate a GAD perspective, with the United Nations taking the lead of mainstreaming the GAD approach through its system and development policies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhum.group2 (talkcontribs) 17 May 2019 (UTC)

    References

    1. United Nations. Office of the Special Adviser on Gender Issues, & Advancement of Women (2002). Gender Mainstreaming an Overview (PDF). New York: United Nations Publications.

    Label o f picture

    The picture of a naked man abd a naked woman illustrate human sexes. It does not illustrate their genders (which as drawings they can't have). A depiction of human genders would need to involve some element of how two people behave as society provides for them to act according to their sexes. For instance, the male might be holding a hunting weapon appropriate for big game, and the female might be weaving a basket. P0M (talk) 16:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

    By the time the Pioneer plaque bearing that image launched, 1) The terms gender and sex had started to be used more interchangeably, and 2) most human societies had evolved far beyond the hunter/gatherer stage. Funcrunch (talk) 19:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
    This article has changed a lot since I first started working on it. Back then "gender" was the most common way to refer to whether any organism, human or otherwise, was male or female. And by "most common," I mean "in the English language overall," not "in the social sciences as written in English." If you said "sex," it'd be like that time on The Simpsons, when Lisa said "These dolls are sexist" and the other girls laughed and said "Lisa said a dirty word!" As Haig writes, in and around 2003, the words were functionally interchangeable. I like that the article shows that the FDA changed its in-house definition of the term more than once. We could use a few examples from outside the U.S. Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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