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Updating timestamp when doing stats updates

Hey, good job on updating the stats for the Bristol City W.F.C. players, really appreciate your effort. Just a small reminder, do update the timestamp in the infobox and the updated template in the career statistics section as well while you're at it. It'll help to inform the other editors whether the latest stats are up to date.

Thanks.

- GNKJ95 (talk) 18:13, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

This still seems to be something you are forgetting to do. Please timestamp your stat updates in both the infobox and career statustics sections. (Hjk1106) 18:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

It's been 2 months and this issue still hasn't been resolved. Is this bordering on WP:DE at this point? CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:06, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Misplaced Pages.

You've been warned by three different users in this section and you are still blatantly ignoring the facts that you need to update timestamp if you change stats in player's infoboxes or/and tables, this has been going on for over one year now, so any furhter edits like this will go to WP:ANI and will be treated as a vandalism / being disruptive on purpose, and not good faith mistakes. Snowflake91 (talk) 21:35, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I can't believe this is still happening, but it is . Worse yet the user is now adding unsourced content to BLP. This has gone on for too long already, please send me if a message if you open an ANI. Thanks. CNC (talk) 13:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Career stats

Thanks for creating the stats on Brooke Aspin, however there were a few issues (in case you missed my edit to correct)

• You forgot to add a {{noteslist}} when creating the table, this is why the following error appeared: Cite error: There are <ref group=lower-alpha> tags or {{efn}} templates on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=lower-alpha}} template or {{notelist}} template (see the help page)..
• The totals didn't add up; 32 + 12 is not 43. Nor is 35 + 2 + 7. The FA Cup appearances in 2021–22 were also 1 not 2.
• As referenced twice already about timestamps, you did not create a {{updated}} template, which is a basic necessity for collaborating with other editors, as well as helpful for readers to understand if the stats are up to date or not.

Updating stats is much appreciated here, but without doing so in the correct manner and format as everyone else (as well as accurately), it's more of an inconvenience than a benefit. Thanks in advance. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

The correct number of FA Cup appearances is 2. Soccerway only counts FA Cup appearances from when the WSL clubs enter which is at round 4. Brooke played an FA Cup game for Bristol City whilst in the championship at round 3. I know because I was one of her coaches ~ unsigned comment by Fmksmnkn5 17:52, 28 February 2024

Absolute nonsense. Bristol City played one game in the 2020–21 Women's FA Cup, in R4, and Championship sides only enter in R4, not R3, so it's impossible that she had two appearances for City. Your "memory" of this is not only inaccurate, but also WP:OR. This is precisely why original research isn't permitted, because the idea "trust me, I know" isn't verifiable, and is often wrong. Case and point. PS please sign your comment next time, and avoid further disruptive edits. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 00:58, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes in the 2020-21 fa cup that is correct. I am talking about the 2021-22 FA Cup. Championship teams enter in R3 which Bristol CIty did in a game against Lewes that ended 5-0 and Brooke played (link here https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/report-bristol-city-women-5-0-lewes-fc/). They then playeda. 4th round game agaisnt SOuthampton which was lost on penalties. Soccerway does not account for games played in R3. So please aplogise for saying that my memory is 'innacurate' :) Fmksmnkn5 (talk) 14:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I apologise for saying your memory is not inaccurate, which is not the case here. There are simply too many inaccurate edits on WP regarding player statistics, so I made a wrong assumption. Thanks for explaining where this statistic comes from, it's just a shame it took this long for an explanation. As a reminder, the WP:BURDEN is on your to provide these sources on the article page, not me: The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. The fact that you were right about the statistic does not absolve you from the way you were wrong for engaging in an edit war, quite the contrary.

I've done you a favour by adding the required sources for WP:VERIFIABILITY, but I won't do so again, now that you are aware of your responsibility here. If you have relevant information/updates for a player, please following Misplaced Pages policy next time, because I assure you that no-one wants to clean up after you again. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Lighten up Fmksmnkn5 (talk) 19:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Did you even read Timestamps topic? I would love to lighten up, but as I said, no-one wants to clean up after your half-baked contributions. You could be doing a great job contributing to WP, if it weren't for these minor things. And honestly, I was close to taking this issue to the admin noticeboard for disruptive editing, but was desperate to avoid having a potentially useful contributor temporarily blocked and discouraged. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

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Can confirm it is true anyway so doesnt need to be sourced. Fmksmnkn5 (talk) 20:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

No you are completely wrong. Per WP:V it always needs to be sourced. CNC (talk) 16:20, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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I am willing to unblock you if you can satisfy me that you understand the biographies of living persons policy and the verifiability policy and you commit to using reliable sources every time you add or update information in an article. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes i understand and commit to sticking to these policies Fmksmnkn5 (talk) 17:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Nothing has changed here per #Updating timestamp when doing stats updates, which is a pretty integral part of WP:V here. List of diffs reverted: . Some of these had infobox timestamp udpates, but not career stats when updating, or visa versa (so might look correct at face value, but still wrong). There were also a few correct edits made: , so I guess we're still at the point of WP:DGAF to properly update articles if it's avoidable. CNC (talk) 09:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@CommunityNotesContributor: Some of the ones you reverted @Fmksmnkn5 did change the dates in the tables, so I'm a bit confused as to which of these are bad vs. which of these are good. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

If you change infobox stats and career stats in the same edit, when there are two update templates with timestamps, both need to be updated when updating both sets of statistics. Otherwise you are still left with one that is correct, and one that is wrong. I realise there is an argument for a partial revert, but after a year we're done clearing up after this editor, as it's simply consumed enough time already for numerous editors who have tried to help. CNC (talk) 17:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

For reference I just double checked unless I made a mistake with diffs, I didn't. CNC (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I see that now. I think I misinterpreted a couple of them. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

No problem. That was the "might look correct at face value" comment. CNC (talk) 18:23, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

As I noted before, I will not unblock you again. You will need to persuade another admin that you can abide by the relevant policies. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:04, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

you are a joke 😂 Fmksmnkn5 (talk) 19:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

WP:NOTHERE in summary then. CNC (talk) 19:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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