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::Hi folks....I'm back now! wassup?!!(] 15:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC))
== Great contributions ==


:::They're threatening to ban you for an entire bloody year at Arbcom. Absolutely f**k*** outrageous!
Hi there,
:::Show them your article creation list, Sarah, I think you probably have the record.
:::Sure you lose your rag from time to time - but don't we all, especially when faced with extreme provocation and wind-up merchnats....<span style="border:1px solid lime;color:green;">Gaimhreadhan <sup><span style="color:brown;"><small>(kiwiexile at DMOZ) </small></span></sup>]</span> • 17:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


Great to have some photos - Misplaced Pages often has problems with plenty of text and no images (or poor ones). The ones you've added are great illustrations, particularly the ones of new road sections. You must travel around a fair bit! Also nice to have someone else editing and fact-checking the articles.


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Thanks! I don't really know how to communicate here...as you can see!


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Although it is a very pretty picture, maybe it's one of your family that you have taken yourself. Ireland is very well presented with an 1832 painting. Maybe one is enough, as Halloween photos are more or less the same worldwide, but the painting is interesting because of it's historical nature. BTW, Halloween originated in Ireland and was brought to the USA in the 1850's. Well I see nearly every country is claiming it now. I don't remember it being celebrated here in England when I was a kid. ] 20:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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Nothing to do with my family, I have no idea who the kids were! I did take the picture a few years back, I've contributed dozens of pics to Wiki. I agree the Blarney picture is excellent but the article lacked an illustration of the most typical MODERN aspect of Halloween, the dressing up and begging or 'trick and treating' as they call it in America, (a phrase which has now become the standard here).
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I felt the photo captured this, the kids dressed up just after dark, the 'Haloween colours' of black and orange, the Autumn leaves on the trees and the ghoulish decorations on the house in the background! <p>
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I even thought the sequence of the two pics was illustrative; Haloween Ireland 1832 and now today. Regards (] 22:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC))

== ATHLONE ==

Icarns; the climate data in the "Athlone" article is WRONG. Why did you delete my note pointing that out? (] 15:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC))

:Hello Sarah777. I removed it since the article is not the place to carry on discussions. This should have been highlighted one of (at least) two methods:
#A new discussion entry on ] if there was something to discuss
#A correction of the data in the article together with a reference citing your source of statistics.
:You should sign Talk comments, but not article edits. As it was, I was following a Wiki task list that had highlighted incorrect links to User space from the article space, and your Athlone signature / comments were so highlighted. Hope that explains things. Please feel free to re-edit in one of the above ways. Thanks, ] 16:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

OK. Got that! Unfortunately while I know for certain the climate data for Athlone is incorrect, I don't know a source of any correct data. It isn't one of the Irish Met Service locations. (] 02:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC))

== British Isles template ==

I left you a message on the ] --]<sup>]</sup> 23:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Sony, never sure where to reply in these situations!
I now understand what you have in mind for the template - very good. Regards (] 00:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC))
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== AFD for ] debate located at ]. ==
It seems I nominated this article in error, too quickly. Apoligies. I have closed this debate with a speedy keep. Also, it does not appear this article was blocked (protected) so any editing errors were probably caused by the internet somehow. Your edits look great. Happy editing. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Navou - and Happy Christmas to you too!! Regards (] 03:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC))
**I have edited the article to remove the AFD notice. The AFD is closed so I removed the notice. A copy of the debate is linked from the articles talk page. If you add the notice again, I will not revert it, however, it will be incorrectly placed.] <sup>]</sup> 03:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

==Re:AFD==
You wrote:''Shouting? Come again please? ''
:Yes, as in adding WORDS IN CAPITALS - universally an indication of shouting in email and web-based writing. And also as in adding inappropriately large headers within an afd - level two and three headers (now both corrected) where no headers were needed - or if any had been put in, level four were the largest that should have been used.
''And "What has your list of contributions got to do with anything?". Please try to remain civil yourself, sir. What do you think they might have to do with anything? ''
:Nothing uncivil in that - it's just a statement of puzzlement, since I don't think it'd got anything to do with it whatsoever. It doesn't matter whether you've made one edit or a hundred thousand edits - it's no indication at all of whether your next contribution will be one worthy of keeping. The first thing I wrote that was nominated for AFD came after I'd made over 50,000 edits. There's very little correlation at all between thether an article should be on AFD and the article creator's edit history.
''And you reckon "Happy Christmas" is a hostile remark? What country are you from?''
:No, I reckon that "Would yo PLEASE get rid of whatever block you are operating. I'm trying to compose an article" is hostile, especially since no one had instigated any blocks. I also reckon that "Could you not check my list of CONTRIBUTIONS before chopping???? This is tiresome." is hostile, especially since no-one had done any "chopping" - quite the opposite in fact, I actually added information to the article by providing further location details and an external link. And New Zealand, FWIW. ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 02:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Grutness - Happy Christmas, OK?! (] 03:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC))
*<s>I'm confused, is any of this addressed to me? </s> After re-reading, I see its not, too much coffee I had tonight.] <sup>]</sup>

== ] ==
Hi Will!
I see you put my pics down the right-hand side of the stub rather than across the top. Normally when I don't have much to say about a village I put the pics across as it looks neater; I guess your format is kinda begging for some text!!
Regards (] 04:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC))

:I did it because the images were overlapping. I saw no way to fix that. Sorry. <!--];Will-->] <small>(] - ])</small><!--ESC:Will Pittenger--> 04:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Just been informed that in MS Explorer the pics across the top style doesn't work (I use Firefox) - why is that ??! (] 04:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC))

:I don't know. Try asking at ]. <!--];Will-->] <small>(] - ])</small><!--ESC:Will Pittenger--> 04:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

== "borebkole" ==

Hi from Brisbane, Australia, where, thank the divinity of your choice, the weather is actually fit for human habitation for once (it's cold and rainy). <br>
This is a bit out of left field. Someone anonymous ("207.104.148.124" - no talk page) added something about "borebkole" to the "external links" a little while ago. You then moved it up into the body of the article where it should have been. Since I can't ask Mr or Ms 207.104.148.124, I may as well start by asking you: have you ever heard of "borebkole"? I can't find it anywhere, and Google suggests it is a rather mean-looking kind of South African dog breed. I reckon it should be "boerenkool"; see . (I guess it could be a regional Dutch dialalect version, but I would have expected something more along the lines of "boerkole" or similar. Interesting languge, that, Dutch. Actualiy, in German (blah blah blah for about half an hour...)<br>
Any thoughts? I might try the reference desk. Oo-roo.<br>--] 07:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)<br /><br />
: 'G'day mate, howyagoin, orright' and so on, as ] are ] to say. Yes, yes, yes, I know that you just moved the 'borebkole' thing into the body of the article, and the closest Google (oh lordy, the verbed noun has now a become a nouned verb, and I'm complicit in it) was ']', that <s>scary-looking</s> cute ginger short-haired dog breed. But: no, no, no, I never suggested Dutch people eat anything remotely canine on Halloween. If anything ginger, they probably eat those yummy ] spicy ]. They're really tasty crunched a bit and mixed (Speculaas, not Boerboels or Dutch people, that is) into vanilla ice-cream. And that's no hoax.<br />Asking about 'borebkole' on the Reference_desk/Miscellaneous right now. I'll keep you updated. <br />Bet Clio the Muse finds the answer.<br />--] 11:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)<br /><br />
:: Asked on the ], and two ] ] replied. Seems I was right, apparently, about that 'Boerenkool' thingumy. I'm still kind of surprised that ] wasn't the one answering it, tho. <br />Anyways: a million or so Fáilte, I think you have a lovely tea-shock, and, mmm, Éireann go Brách (as my grandmum used to say)... and all that sort of stuff.<br />--] 11:37, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

==Halloween==
You wrote on my talk page: "Congrats to Walloon - Halloween must be one of the most regularly vandalised or contested (non political) articles on Wiki! Excellent stewardship!"

Could you explain what you mean by "stewardship"? I'm just one of dozens of editors of that article. I'm in the dark on what your message means. — ] 19:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC) (added comment from user page, ] 19:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC))

== ] ==
Hi, I removed the International Rankings section from ] because they would be better in the ] article, if the information has been properly sourced. Or, of course, if they have been calculated to include Northern Ireland, say in the island article. &laquo;&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]<sup>/<sub>]</sub>&raquo; 15:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


OK...I can't seem to get them back in one piece anyway!(] 15:34, 13 January 2007 (UTC))
::No probs, if you go to the , click edit, then copy the section into the Republic's article. That should work (fingers crossed!). &laquo;&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]<sup>/<sub>]</sub>&raquo; 15:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I think the problem was the white space around some of the text, sorted now. &laquo;&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]<sup>/<sub>]</sub>&raquo; 16:16, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

::::Thanks Keith; I had figured it out and the 'rankings' section is now reassembled in the ] article. I checked the links and the stats do indeed refer only to the RoI; though it is usually just called 'Ireland' in the ranking compilations; so I've linked them back to the ] article. regards (] 16:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC))

== Hollyford ==

Hi Sarah,
I have edited some info you had on Hollyford, as it was incorrect. I am a local just in case you were wondering.
I must say the photos used here does nothing for our village, hopefully when the work is finished in the village I will be able to help you out and add some nice ones. Out of interest how do you know Hollyford?
] 21:02, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello! Well, it was a very wet day and the entire village was dug up with some pipe-laying; and the sawmill does spill across the road! But, yes. In nice weather and without the works I could take much nicer pics of your charming village.
I work in the hills of North Tipp from time to time - check out the stubs on ], ] etc.(] 21:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC))


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Hi Sarah! Thanks for your good work on the ] site - I have just expanded it a lot with historical background. Hope you like it! Best ] 15:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Great stuff Seneschally! (] 00:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC))

== Sally Gap ==

Cool picture of the Sally Gap . One question though, did you drive up there in the snow? Pretty brave if so!

Regards
] 01:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Beautiful place alright. The wicklow mountains in general are one of my favourite places. Must be dangerous descending from the gap in the snow? You're obviusly still in one piece though!

] 01:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== Flags of Ireland ==

Hi Sarah, with regards to your recent edit summary, I was just wondering why you consider the Four Provinces Flag and the St. Patrick Saltire to be "]" when added to the ] article? They are explicitly discussed in the text, so their inclusion seems to be entirely relevant. You'll have to forgive my obtuseness, but I'm slightly mystified as to how any possible definition of the word "spam" could be applied to their inclusion. Also, why is the "correct" order the one with the RoI flag at the top? I don't really have any preference in the matter, but I was just wondering why this is the case. Cheers, ] 03:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

They clutter the article; perhaps the reference to them should be deleted too. I'll look into it. As for the order of the flags, I would have thought it obvious.
Firstly, the Irish State has been robbed of the use of its official name, IRELAND, by certain Wiki editors; then there are repeated attempts to have the Union Jack appear as the top/largest/first flag to appear in the article titled '''IRELAND'''.
Enough is enough as they say. The last time I edited the flags I had SonyYouth remove my edits and refer to them as "vandalism". Though they were factually correct. So 'spam' is mild. (] 18:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC))

== Dundrum meteorite ==

As far as I know, part of the meteorite is in the Geology Department of Trinity College. If memory serves me right, it's most of the meteorite, with a chunk sawn off. According to , it's in the Museum there now.

(There was also a a tiny bit for sale on eBay last month. Went for $28)
] 23:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

== Phibsboro Vandal ==

I had noticed your valiant efforts to keep this article on track. Frankly, I am a day or two away from requesting semi-protection for the page. I have the page on my watch list so, between us perhaps we can keep it clean. Cheers! ] 03:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

==Ennis - subtle vandalism==
Hi Sarah. I'm wondering if you'd be able to help me in preventing ongoing, subtle vandalism to the ] article, mainly by just putting it on your watchlist (if it's not there already) and reverting vandalism if you come across it.

Often the vandalism is pretty obvious, , but sometimes it's more subtle and it's not obvious even to me, such as . It appears to me there is one person who is persistently trying to undermine the Ennis article by adding disinformation. Note that the vandal sometimes appears to be impersonating myself.

Before you suggest it, I have considered whether the article should be semi-protected. However, I dislike the "in-your-face" protection notice that gets slapped at the top of articles, and anyway the actual rate of vandalism is probably too low to be considered worthy of semi-protection.

Hoping you can help... cheers, ] 07:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== RE: Apologies Etcetera ==

Sarah, thanks. re: "Flag of Occupied Ireland (1800-1922)" being "historically accurate" - oh, come on! Funny edit, but please, come on! --]<sup>]</sup> 08:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== Dundrum pix ==

Hi, how about some pix to illustrate the Dundrum entry? ] 13:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

==talk page==
I would request that you clarify at ] for the accusation, made by you, "I notice Djegan has reverted my edit a SECOND time without any discussion, definitely hostile and not in the spirit of Wiki." Amongst other things this second reversion of your edit, where is it? ] 14:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

:Sarah777, I must genuinely complement your ability to accuse. But I am waiting for evidence for said accusations on ] and my user page. ] 23:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== Flags of Ireland ==

Hi Sarah, thank you for your reply. Might I suggest in future that you leave more constructive edit summaries? Treating an editor's honest edits as "spam" simply because someone else did likewise to yours is not terribly helpful. As for the order of the flags, that it not obvious, so you might might like consider other possible viewpoints when editing. After all, the Union Flag is older than the RoI flag, and (rightly or wrongly), it did represent Ireland for over 100 years until 80 years ago or so. Again, I have no preference one way or the other, but if pushed I would think the RoI flag should go at the top, simply because it is geographically larger; this seems to me to be NPOV reasoning. I am just pointing out that there isn't necessarily a universally accepted "correct order". Remember, this is an article about the island, not the state. I'm not trying to be nasty, and I do personally appreciate your contributions, but you should always remember to ]. We all want a good article, even though we may disagree how to achieve it. Take care, ] 17:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

:Good luck with your ] series - I guess someone has to do it! :) ] 23:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== minor edit ==

Minor edits don't need discussion, but the change you made is not a minor one. It implies that the description "Republic of Ireland" is incidental - that it is just one of many, with the same status as (say) "Emerald Isle". That simply isn't so. I'm not flatly contradicting you and I'm sure you made the edit in good faith, but you need to produce the evidence of other ''statutory'' descriptions. (I accept that this is not what the article actually says at the moment.) --] 00:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
:I don't really understand what you are saying here. Ireland/Éire is the constitional name, not just another description. Surely this is exactly the first thing you said on talk:RoI (and I agreed with you until I realised the can of worms it would open) - the name of the state is Ireland, RoI is just a description? ] 23:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Red; they are BOTH names. One is the Constitutional (hence official) name; the other is described in an Act as a "description", though it is clearly no such thing, it is a name. (] 23:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC))

== Sandyford Reservoir ==
Theres a reason why its called the '''Sandyford''' Reservoir. Its in Sandyford. The same way the Weirview drive possé claim to be living in Leopardstown and Weirview is closer to Stillorgan than the Sandyford reservoir. cheers--] 16:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::Weirview Drive is in Leopardstown. Dwellings situated on Brewery Road are not neccesarily (The Lep(Leopardstown) Inn pour l'example) situated in Stillorgan. I would like see some evidence for your sweeping statement ''Are not all entrances to the complex off roads which, according to An Post, are in Stillorgan''. The reservoir is situated closer to the industrial estate than it is to Stillorgan. Take Sandyford Renault for example, changed from Stillorgan Renault to Sandyford Renault only recently. Same with Sandford reservoir. Cheers--] 17:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Stillorgan is obviously in Stillorgan, Sandyford reservoir is obviously in Sandyford. Cheers--] 00:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

You miss a crucial point here - it is NOT called Sandyford Reservoir - it is officially called '''Stillorgan''' reservoir!!! (] 01:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC))
:::Says who? (and dont say 'says me')--] 01:13, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I'll go get a picture tomorrow. For now I leave you with this harrowing thought. ''The reservoir is in Snadyford'', end quote.--] 01:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Every little helps. Anyway, it's nearly 2AM and henceforth I couldn't be 'arsed' reading that whole debate but if it's about what the title suggest then all towns, whatever side of the border should simply be in Ireland. ''Goatstown is a town is South County Dublin, Ireland'' for example.--] 01:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::Ye, now I'm totally lost.--] 02:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Hollywood, County Wicklow ==

Surely if the Hollywood USA page can speculate about the origin of their name, then so can Hollywood Wicklow. It is a commonly held opinion in Hollywood that the one in the USA is named after it, which is not unreasonable given the history of emigration from this country and the relative ages of the two areas. Also if the Hollywood USA page cannot definitively tell us where its name has come from, then how can you discount another possibility? Two of the external links are to websites with some history input on the village, and both claim this to be true.

Also, that photograph of Hollywood is probably the most unflattering image I have ever seen of the village, maybe I can take some better ones to replace it soon?

'''Hi there Anonymous Editor!'''
I don't think unreferenced speculation is acceptable in the body of Wiki articles. If there was any truth in the storey of the man from Hollywood there would be some evidence, surely? Also the profusion of links is against the Wiki manual; facts should be clearly referenced from without the body of the article.

As for the photo, the 'Hollywood sign' angle is a very obvious one. (Why TWO of them - looks sloppy). We all differ in matters of taste but I'd say Hollywood was set in beautiful surroundings but the village is well represented by the photo; grubby and disorganised. It badly needs to be knocked into shape (see ] for example). (] 02:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC))


Quite obviously there is no definitive answer to how Hollywood LA has been named, so surely all possibilities, however remote, must be entertained, I was only stating the fact that it was a local claim, and not that it was definitively true. The Hollywood LA page only publicises rumours too.

Secondly, it appears to me that you may have driven past hollywood, without turning up the cul de sac into the village itself. If this is the case, then I think you should come back and see what it is really like.
] 02:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I dont appreciate the fact that you appear to be making this personal. I wish to tell people about the place that I come from, and in figuring out how to work with wikipedia I have made some mistakes, however I am trying to make my text, which I believe to be highly relevant, suitable for inclusion. oh, and now i can sign my messages ] 03:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

have you no photos of the village itself, as opposed to road signs?

It was a dull day: ]
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They're much better, wouldn't they be more appropriate for use in the article? ] 03:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes it would! I have ditched the signs. btw you can insert any picture yourself by clicking on it and copying the Image Name on top and slotting it into the correct format, say "IMG_OldVillageHollywood4971w.jpg" is the name, add then ] and up pops the image.

You can do this for ANY image on Wiki. (] 03:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC))


==Talking is Good==
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== Road designations ==

Sarah777, can I ask with your road project, are the roads actually named as "N74 road" or just N74. I ask as the article titles seem confusing. Have you just named them with road afterwards because the initial N74 etc is occupied by a different article? If this is so then I think the articles should be moved to a more appropriate article name such as "N74 (road)" or "N74 (Ireland)". If this is the case then I can do this for you if you want, if no then the road portion of the name should be bolded as well in the article as '''N74 road'''. I hope I've managed to convey what I mean here. ] ] 08:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Ben, the style of naming these articles is taken from the one established by ], who set up the whole structure and wrote most of the "roads" pages. I am merely expanding on his work - so I'd be very reluctant to change anything without his agreement!

The 'secondary' roads are a separate category from the ']', 'motorway' or ']' so I reckoned that a specific standardised style of infobox for each category would help tie everything up.

The nature of the 'roads' categories is given in the article ], again largely written by ]. The reason roads pages are called 'R747 road' etcetera is because names like R747, N8, N62 and so forth are a disambiguation nightmare. But certainly, the titles are a bit stilted and the whole categorisation/naming could be refined, tidied up and standardised - a big task which is beyond me!

Another point to note is that I think these roads would more correctly be described as 'routes'; something we'd need to establish before any major naming overhaul. Regards (] 09:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

Road Categories. On the roads, N62, N74 etc, they should be in the catgeory Roads in the Republic of Ireland, and not in the Roads in Ireland category. As you point out Roads in the Republic of Ireland is a subcategory of Roads in Ireland which is a supercategory that covers the entirety of the island. If you notice there are no other roads in the Roads in Ireland category, they are all in the Roads in the Republic of Ireland or Roads in Northern Ireland category. I shall move them back down, putting them in the supercategory confuses and renders the category systems pointless. ] ] 15:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, you seem to have gotten a little confused over how categories work in Misplaced Pages. I see you noticed that the rest of the N roads were in the Roads in the Republic of Ireland category where they should be. Categories have subcategories to further subdivide the information, the "Roads in Ireland" category has "Roads in Northern Ireland" and "Roads in the Republic of Ireland" within it, this enables the roads to be further classified dependant on which country they are in. Having the Republic of Ireland roads in the supercategory rather than in the subcategory makes no sense. You posted to my page "Ben, I would appreciate it if you'd discuss your rather contentious editing of the categories of the 'Irish Roads' series of articles and reach some consensus before changing them. Regards", when all I was doing was reassigning 4 road articles to the same category as the REST of the N roads. You however I notice have just gone completely against the advice you were asking me about by moving them in their entirety out of that category, possibly due to your one declared refusal against the term "Republic of Ireland". You ask me to discuss what you call "contentious editing of the categories", and then you go one further and completely go against everything already established concerning both them categories, and the point of subcategories on Misplaced Pages. Incidentally your adding of the category "Roads in Ireland" to those articles using the "National Primary Route" template has completely confused the category structure even more rendering the whole thing a mockery, as the "National Primary Route" category is a subcategory of "Roads in the Republic of Ireland" which is a subcategory of "Roads in Ireland". I must ask that you put them all back.
In addition do not remove miles from articles, it is commonplace and encouraged on Wikpedia to use both Miles and Kilometers in articles (with preference going to the local measurement of the country the article is about). Having them in there isn't "clutter", and by removing them you are confusing the article for other readers, and again I must ask that you put them back. ] ] 21:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

: Sarah you appear to imply political motivation and POV upon me where non exists. I don't care if the largest state on the island of Ireland was called "The Land That Cannot Be Named", it makes no difference to me I have no interest in the topic, all I do is enforce the policies rules and styles of Misplaced Pages, policies and styles developed and agreed upon by the consensus of the community. There is currently no category at the moment for Secondary roads, perhaps yes one could be created, but in the meantime you have enforced your political POV upon these articles, not me, you have done what you accused me of doing, not me, and I ask once again that you correct the categories back to how they were. ] ] 07:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

:: Sarah777 please check my edits before you make any more accusations. You stated "You have chosen to arbitrarily add 'RoI' to many of these articles", all I did was move 4 road articles into the same category as the rest of them to be consistent with the rest of the articles on roads in Ireland. If I "arbitrarily" added RoI to any other of these articles it was simply to link the country to the correct article on Misplaced Pages instead of the island, not to push any kind of POV, and when I do so you notice that it reads as ]. You are the POV pusher here, not I, all I am doing is going with the consensus of the community and thinking of the final readers of the articles. These articles are not for us, they are for non-editing readers, don't lose sight of the point of Misplaced Pages. I ask you once again to put those articles back into their established categories and stop with your efforts to deny the existence of the term "Republic of Ireland" against the consensus of the community. Other than this one point you are a very good Misplaced Pages editor, and one we would be proud to keep in our ranks if you can get over this one sticking POV point of yours. ] ] 10:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

:::'ll take on board some points if you'd like to take on board the points I made to start this conversation, you seem to have ignored them and the work of others before them. ] ] 20:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, tell you what. Lets move the ones in the Northern Ireland subcategory into a completely separate higher level Roads in Northern Ireland category, and leave the Roads in Ireland category as the state rather than subcategorised down a level into Roads in the Republic of Ireland. Then we can just tidy the roads that are in the same category multiple times but on different levels. Does this work as a good balance between us, with no one able to point a POV finger at anyone? Means having one less level of category and no category for the island of Ireland. ] ] 10:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

: If you're really willing to have that category "Roads in the Republic of Ireland" that they can be moved back into then yes I accept your proposal, it's practically what we had anyway just with an extra couple of subcategories. I'll see if I can start on it tomorrow sometime moving things back and re-cating. See we can work together, I know you're a good editor. ] ] 21:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

==State?==
I am in total agreement with you that Ireland should be called by it's proper title, and country etc. The nuance, as pointed out to me on my talk page, is all of the island of Ireland is a country in it's own right, leaving arguments aside about the N/S split. I was wondering that if we try to "fix" it too much, then we might "break" it more. If we had agreed wording, that is probably the more livable way. ] 23:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

== keeping out of it - unless there is a vote. ==

Good try - I'll be impressed if you can really give it up for lent!. But you say (in NI) "except if there is a vote" so thought I should let you know that there is a sort of vote at ] under "broad consensus" or similar. --] 20:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

==]==
I would like to know why ] insists in put back the old PNG file of the COA, since the SVG one is exactly the same, appart from the brownish color (which, in my opinion, is not the correct one). I think that it is almost vandalism, since he reverts the editions without reasonable arguments. If there is any problem in the SVG file, it can be corrected, instead of put back the PNG file. --] 14:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I haven't a clue to be honest. I don't know much about Coat of Arms; maybe something to do with the colour? (] 22:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC))

==Flag of Northern Ireland debate==
You have been involved in the flag debate on the Northern Ireland talk page. If you remember there were four option listed about the way forward. If you wish you can go ] and make your position clear. regards--] 21:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
:No problem :) lets just hope that it stays the way it is although I doubt it --] ] 01:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
::Try to actually send me the link next time ; ). Cheers.--] 19:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Boxing your politcal thingy ==

Hello couldnt help but notice your user page if you want to box it just place this on your user page <nowiki>{{User:Tal642/my userboxes/politicalcompass|0.25|-2.56}}</nowiki> ] ] 16:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ahem the correct term is ] you right-winger you --] ] 21:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Update on Ghhrtvvd ==

*], I meant to actually request that ] be deleted (and I have since done so), ] had moved ] to ] and I moved it back and forgot to have the redirect removed. -- ] - ] 13:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

== Text and picture overlap ==

Hi again, I just wanted to let you know that using ] on ], your picture, which I think is neat, runs over some of the text. Thanks! -- ] - ] 19:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ben. Yep I'm a FireFox too and yep it overlaps. This is something I'm thinking about. "Why?" - I ask.
Does it overlap in that Microsoft browser...what's it called? I just don't know. I removed Windows Messenger and !puff! went the browser and also Outlook Express. Damned if I'm going to re-install Messenger just to get that rubbish back. (] 21:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC))

* They do not overlap in ] which I am forced to have around to do development. And I know in the U.S. that you can't actually be rid of the Internet Explorer, so I suspect that you actually just don't have a shortcut to it anymore, but that it is still installed. As to why the difference, it is because of how browsers render the code... I can't say why for sure in this case it isn't working, but I will try to look at it more later to see if I can figure it out! If I do, want me to change it? -- ] - ] 22:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

** It is something to do with the templates that you used, I moved things around just a bit and it seems to look better me to, I hope that works for you! -- ] - ] 20:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

=== Follow up to your comments on my page ===

* Sarah, copying stuff from other user pages is a lot of time the easiest way to go if you don't know what you are doing. As far as making userboxes: ] and here is Misplaced Pages's all purpose tutorial with links and formatting info: ]. I hope that helps! -- ] - ] 20:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

== Confusion Apologies ==

Sarah, sorry about that, as you notice it's the only edit I've made to any of that lot since our conversation. I think maybe there has been some confusion added yes. The thing with categories is there are actually two schools of thought on Misplaced Pages with one generally prevailing but the other having a strong voice as well. The thing is to my mind that Regional Roads is already a subcategory of Roads in the Republic of Ireland which is in turn a subcategory of Roads in Ireland which means the article shouldn't really be added to the two upper categories as it's in the lower category (which means it is in the other two categories but just doesn't display on the screen until you go into the category). That school of thought is the predominant one but the other one that you can put then in all categories that apply does have some vocal adherents as well. I'll put those categories back in the article and I'll not alter then again okay, I promise. Someone else may come across them and do so, I cannot say, but I promise I won't add confusion to the mix and I'll put them back. Sorry. Oh and in case I haven't explained myself terribly well (it happens, I'm not a teacher) there is a Wiki article on these topics which I think everyone should read anyway ] which seems more about having the multiple levels in an article. Sorry, I'm not deliberately trying to annoy you or be patronising in anyway and I'll stop rambling now before I make more of a fool of myself than I usually do. ] ] 08:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

: I wonder if we're only going to put it in one category if the category itself should be more descriptive, such as the examples in the Category sections of Misplaced Pages. Instead of Regional Roads, Regional Roads in the Republic of Ireland? Otherwise with only the one category it doesn't read well to a reader I suppose as you've no idea what regional roads, is it all countries regional roads, some regional roads or which? Does this make sense? ] ] 15:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:: I'm happy to leave the three categories on there for clarity on the readers part, it's fine. I reverted my last change and I won't change it again. Yes I'll see if I can get the time and set up the Northern Ireland branch of the categories at some point in the near future. ] ] 08:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

== Ireland-related talk pages ==

Sarah, I'm finding your approach to discussion on Ireland-related talk pages uncivil, unconstructive and abusive. Please stop bad-mouthing your fellow editors and obscuring discussion. Please try to engage in some real discussion with a mind to compromise, consensus and resolving disputes, not winning them. This not only relates to the current matter of whether "country" should appear in the lead section, but across the board for your contributions, and has been a long-held opinion of mine and of others. --]<sup>]</sup> 23:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I take care to answer all of the questions you direct at me. If I answered you harshly of late then its because its nothing compared to how you have been speaking . Please stop. --]<sup>]</sup> 01:04, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== "Country" in the lead section - my perspective ==

Sarah, 'my perspective' is that the term is just too ambiguous to be used definitively with regard to Ireland and so should be left until the subject of the article has been defined. Only 1 in 3 editors agree with that - a sizable minority, but a minority. If it were only just that perspective and an opposite one then there would probably be a simple case for "let just move on."

But there are two other perspectives - one saying unequivocally that the country is the state and the other saying unequivocally that the country is the island. These polar opinions are divided almost evenly, 8-7. There is no consensus about this edit. How can you say that there is? Although the "ayes", as Red called them (you included, I guess), do look more adamant.

Let's accept that and work it out. It shouldn't be impossible. Just open up to the possibility. --]<sup>]</sup> 00:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Straw poll ==

Sarah, look at the RoI talk page - maybe something to make you smile. --]<sup>]</sup> 21:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

==Image copyright problem with Image:IMG RailwayStaKilcoole5297ww.jpg==

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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the ]. Thanks again for your cooperation. If you need help please contact me as copyright is taken very seriously on wikipedia. Please read this message and then hopefully you will get it right in the future! Happy editing! <b><font color="0066FF">]</font><font color="66FF33">]</font></b> 17:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

: There perfect, you have corrected the tags correctly. Good work! Cheers - <b><font color="0066FF">]</font><font color="66FF33">]</font></b> 18:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

==Lakes of Ireland==
] have a look, I moved Lakes of Ireland out of the United Kingdom list.--] 00:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Excellent stuff Padraig - I wonder how much more of this type of thing is out there in Wiki? (] 07:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC))

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== Latest version ==
Thank you ]. I will endeavour to keep my tags in order in future!! Best Regards (] 20:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC))

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== La defense ==
Thank you for actually using your head against the mad Galway man. Cheers--] 13:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
==...an aside==

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Long gone; a childhood memory - but this was one of the most beautiful coins I've ever seen. ] (]) 00:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for improving the Luggala article! However, I've removed the link to the picture you uploaded; it's a duplication of the picture that's already there, it's so dark that it's very hard to make out any features, and the lake is Lough Tay not Lough Dan. ] 10:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I've put the old picture in the infobox; remember not everyone interested in mountains is into rock-climbing! Light and shade, storm and wind, snow and black black water....grey brooding skies - these are the things appeal to us soulful folk. (] 18:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC))

== Request for Unblock ==
Any chance of yourself and others attempting to make Johny sensitive come to his senses. I've been unblocked before and it will happen again. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 00:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit clearer - I don't do riddles! (] 02:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC))

Is that you?? How do I go about unblocking? (] 02:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC))

== RE: The blocking of Fenian swine ==


==Trying to replace "list" with "dab" ==
Hi there! First, please allow me to extend an apology for removing your comment on the talk page. It wasn't my intention; it was simply a miscue when pasting my response onto ]. I didn't block the user by some sort of selective authority. As I've mentioned several times, the username was a clear violation of Misplaced Pages policy. ]] 03:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Davoren
:The username is blatantly offensive, for reasons I've detailed on ]. In addition, I am not imposing any biased point of view. Anyone can see that the name is offensive. ]] 03:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Can't seem to do it without deleting the Irlproject tag. ] (]) 19:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
::Ironic or not, the username is entirely inappropriate; it invites conflict and division in addition to disparaging a group of people. To say I am uncompromising is a gross misrepresentation of my actions. For more than a week, I offered to help the user change his username and was met with nothing but hostility and insults. ]] 03:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::: OK. Your pov is very clear that Mr Swine is in breach. I'm going to seek some expert advice here. Be back tomorrow. (] 03:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC))

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Hi folks....I'm back now! wassup?!!(Sarah777 15:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC))
They're threatening to ban you for an entire bloody year at Arbcom. Absolutely f**k*** outrageous!
Show them your article creation list, Sarah, I think you probably have the record.
Sure you lose your rag from time to time - but don't we all, especially when faced with extreme provocation and wind-up merchnats....Gaimhreadhan talk • 17:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


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Ireland Wiki State of Play - Aug 16 2007

Ireland
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Quality
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A
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...an aside

File:Irish fifty pence (decimal coin).png Long gone; a childhood memory - but this was one of the most beautiful coins I've ever seen. Sarah777 (talk) 00:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Trying to replace "list" with "dab"

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Davoren Can't seem to do it without deleting the Irlproject tag. Sarah777 (talk) 19:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)