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== No mention of the US invasion of Panama == |
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== future expansion ? == |
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It came to my attention that the article doesn't mention the US invasion of Panama. Is there a reason? ] (]) 16:11, 25 August 2021 (UTC) |
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it is here any plans to rebuild old lock to wider ones (with water saving basins) ? or to build new ones ? since shiping trends clerly show that new panamax is desired with demand for old panamax ships hitting ground, meaning at some point in future no ship in use will be able to pass old locks (or at least in significiant numbers). |
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:Why should it be mentioned? This article is about the Panama Canal, not about Panama. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 17:19, 25 August 2021 (UTC) |
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:Because the US used the enforcement of the canal treaties as part of its rationale for the invasion and arrest of Manuel Noriega. I would propose adding a sentence such as the following to the penultimate paragraph of the History > Later developments section (I would have done this myself had the article not been protected following Trump's recent remarks): |
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::Deteriorating relations between Panama and the US which culminated in the ] and the US arrest of ] did not significantly impact the implementation of the treaties. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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] (]) 13:06, 9 October 2017 (UTC) |
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==Wiki Education assignment: Multimedia Writing and Rhetoric== |
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== Discrepancies? == |
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{{dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment | course = Misplaced Pages:Wiki_Ed/University_of_Notre_Dame/Multimedia_Writing_and_Rhetoric_(Fall_2024) | assignments = ] | start_date = 2024-08-28 | end_date = 2024-12-12 }} |
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 14:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</span> |
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While reading the article, there is a discrepancy to be noted. In the article itself, it states that the SS Cristobal was the first to make the transit through the Panama Canal on August 3 1914, but the picture states that it is the SS Ancon on August 15 1914. Further research may need to be done to solidify which is the true first. ] (]) 20:27, 2 June 2021 (UTC)Gladdisiator |
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== Merged History section with Article ] == |
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== Expansion completion date vs. Panamamax vessel in photo date == |
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New to this but: article states the expansion to allow panamax vessels was completed June 26, 2016 but the panamax vessel in article photo states it is entering the lock in March 2013. Apologies if I am misunderstanding. Cheers, Billy ] (]) 04:52, 6 July 2021 (UTC) |
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I have just merged the History section which had grown up in this article with the already existing article ]. There will inevitably be duplications. Any compressions, refinements, etc. should be made in that article. ] (]) 14:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:] Hi Billy. Great question – I believe that both the article and the photo caption are correct. The photo, which as you noted was taken in March 2013, shows a Panamax ship traversing the Miraflores locks before the expansion project was completed. On the other hand, the article states {{xt|The new locks opened for commercial traffic on 26 June 2016, and the first ship to cross the canal using the third set of locks was a modern New Panamax vessel, the Chinese-owned container ship Cosco Shipping Panama}}. "New Panamax" refers to ships that are even larger than the old "Panamax" ships, and they pass through a set of new locks (the Agua Clara and Cocoli locks) that were constructed next to the old locks. See the photo to the right. So there is no contradiction between the article and the caption. Does this answer make sense? Best, ] (]) 05:12, 6 July 2021 (UTC) |
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== Panama Canal == |
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It came to my attention that the article doesn't mention the US invasion of Panama. Is there a reason? ] (]) 16:11, 25 August 2021 (UTC) |
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:Why should it be mentioned? This article is about the Panama Canal, not about Panama. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 17:19, 25 August 2021 (UTC) |
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It would be nice if someone could include the amount of revenue that was collected especially through the early years and who it was dispersed to. ] (]) 17:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== not a single word on ecological and ecosystem impacts, == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2024 == |
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just praise <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:33, 26 January 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I was thinking exactly the same. ] (]) 14:39, 5 August 2022 (UTC) |
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For the 21st century section, I recommend adding this: On December 24, a ] is held at the ] in ] over Trump's threat to take back the ]. Protesters also refer to him as a "public enemy" of ].<ref>https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241224-panamanians-protest-public-enemy-trump-s-canal-threat</ref><ref>https://www.dw.com/en/panama-protesters-say-enemy-trump-must-leave-canal-alone/a-71156004</ref> ] (]) 00:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:Yes, ], ] couldnt agree with you more- it´s horrific how the thing is extolled. the article is dominated by engineering details. I just added merely the fact how it works and how water wasting this thing is-An average of {{convert |52000000|usgal|L|abbr=on|order=flip}} of fresh water used in a single passing.- none of this was mentioned. maybe we need to add a section?--] (]) 21:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:Gatun is also the main freshwater reservoir for water for the population, which has doubled in size since 1980. Since there has been no change in freshwater collection the last sentence of the lede is at least incomplete if not outright fabrication. ] (]) 23:32, 22 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:I have added the requested comment to the article ]. ] (]) 10:14, 27 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Panama canal lock sizes == |
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:{{not done}} Added to the History article instead. ] (]) 10:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC) |
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] says that the maximum ] for New Panamax is 60–100. This is obviously wrong. It's also wrong in the original source at . Maybe this is supposed to be thousands? ] (]) 17:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC) |
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: Indeed. I've added a note to on Commons. Perhaps there's an replacement table available somewhere? - ] (]) 12:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
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I have just merged the History section which had grown up in this article with the already existing article History of the Panama Canal. There will inevitably be duplications. Any compressions, refinements, etc. should be made in that article. SRamzy (talk) 14:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Not done Added to the History article instead. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)