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== The first artists to have three singles that were released in three different decades to reach over a billion views each on the same YouTube channel? == |
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Not counting views on other uploads of the songs: It's My Life (2000), Livin' on a Prayer (1986), Always (1994). The 3rd is about to hit that mark. We just need to fact check other artists' views and it could be added to this article. ] (]) 05:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:Apparently, Shakira has three singles that almost did the same except "TQG" is uploaded on Karol G's channel since it was first included in the latter's album. ] (]) 09:51, 8 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:It should also be noted that all three of those Jovi singles were released before YouTube's existence. ] (]) 17:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Why is the glam metal label used as early when they were a big part and a iconic band of that genre? == |
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First of all, I don't agree that the glam metal label should be first in the Bon Jovi article genres box but it definitely shouldn't be early. The reason why I say that is because the glam metal label for Bon Jovi wasn't some early useless genre on them like Pantera who also has the glam metal label but it says early. The big difference between the glam metal label on Bon Jovi compared to a band like Pantera is that the glam metal label was a big part on Bon Jovi. They are seen as a hair metal band, Slippery When Wet and New Jersey are their best selling albums and both were glam-metal. Their biggest hits were glam metal hits. I understand that Bon Jovi were able to move pass the genre once the demise for it happened but the influences were still there even in the 2000s with It's My Life and Have a Nice Day which was compared to their 80s stuff. Bon Jovi was a big part of the genre that it feels like having the label as early for them doesn't massively work when their best selling albums are glam-metal albums and their biggest hits are glam-metal songs as well. Bon Jovi's first 5 albums were all glam metal and the influences were there on Crush, Bounce, and even on Have a Nice Day. Therefore, I think it's appropriate for the glam metal label to either be second after hard rock or even third after arena rock. ] (]) 20:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:There's not much to say: They stopped doing hair metal after the 1980s, so adding "early" is appropriate. This also aligns with the musical style section https://en.wikipedia.org/Bon_Jovi#Musical_style --] (]) 03:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) |
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They did not stop doing hair metal after the 80s, Keep The Faith was still part of that. It wasn't until These Days came out when their sound definitely changed but even Crush (2000) had some hair metal influences such as the song One Wild Night. Some of the influences were still being around in the 2000s. The glam metal label should be second or third, it definitely shouldn't be early because early make it seem as if the genre wasn't that hugely relevant to them when it actually was. Their best selling albums are glam metal albums and their biggest singles are glam metal singles. Their music is definitely different now but even back in the early 90s, they were still doing glam metal. ( ] (]) 01:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC) ) |
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:Early 1990s would still qualify for the "early" tag for a band formed in 1983 --] (]) 13:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Official members == |
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:::Yes these are all good additional sources. When I added this topic, the docuseries hadn’t come out yet so I was just basing it on how they seemed to be permanent fixtures of the band since the This House is Note for Sale tour. |
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:::Yes these are all good additional sources. When I added this topic, the docuseries hadn’t come out yet so I was just basing it on how they seemed to be permanent fixtures of the band since the This House is Note for Sale tour. |
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:::But you’re right that music videos aren’t enough since Hugh McDonald was in the video for “Something for the Pain” way before he was considered an official member. ] (]) 20:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::But you’re right that music videos aren’t enough since Hugh McDonald was in the video for “Something for the Pain” way before he was considered an official member. ] (]) 20:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Reference added to a Billboard article that noted them as members. ] (]) 11:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2024 == |
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== Not first band to play in the USSR == |
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This is wrong. ] (]) 02:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Add John Shanks and Everett Bradley to the list of official members. |
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:Correct, I think this was the Doobie Brothers in 1987. Will change this. ] (]) 10:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Recent music videos and promo photos clearly show that they are official members even if not directly confirmed by the band. After all, even Hugh McDonald wasn’t formally confirmed as an official member besides his inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. ] (]) 16:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Sourcing == |
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] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 21:43, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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The general sourcing for this article is poor in several places and there is also quite a bit of original research, especially around tours. I have added tags to that effect. ] (]) 11:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:https://www.instagram.com/p/C4vwNI9Jbj9/?igsh=dnoyNjdtNDZ3dDZ6 ] (]) 21:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2024 == |
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== Current, official members and current, official pictures. Could anybody help me clear up my confusion, please?... == |
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Hello, Everybody! You know, there's only one thing that makes me a little bit unsure whether John Shanks and Everett Bradley are already official members of Bon Jovi. Indeed, they both are (for example) in a new, promotional picture and in the band's most recent music videos (and that still makes me happy). However, on a few sites (including in the bio section on Spotify and on Instagram), I found another photo (from the same, recent session) that features just the 5-member line-up of Jon, David, Tico, Phil and Hugh. It would still be great if Everett and John really were in the band officially, but... Maybe they are still supporting members, since the 5-piece photo was also released to the public. What do You think about all of this? What the infobox and the "Band members" section should look like. All the best and all the kindest regards from a big Bon Jovi fan, all the way from Poland. Thanks for everything and take care, Everyone! |
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Bon Jovi has 16 studio albums. They are all listed but the General section still says 15 albums since they put one out recently and that number was apparently not updated. ] (]) 21:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{fixed}} Thank you, - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 22:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC) |
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P.S.: And here's the photo that I'm talking about, on the Insta-page of EMI Records: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7E2Lzji6VV/ |
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based on recent music videos and promo photos, I think it’s time to add John Shanks and Everett Bradley to the list of official members. 174.94.116.6 (talk) 23:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
The general sourcing for this article is poor in several places and there is also quite a bit of original research, especially around tours. I have added tags to that effect. Karst (talk) 11:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Bon Jovi has 16 studio albums. They are all listed but the General section still says 15 albums since they put one out recently and that number was apparently not updated. Justinpatton (talk) 21:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)