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| ==Personal Attacks?!== | |||
| WTF!!! Did you read the discussion - I was the one being attacked, and yet you reverted my edit and did not tell Emir Arven to stop personal attacks against me. Unbelieveable! <font style="background:none" size="3">—]]</font> 03:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :, , and constitute personal attacks, which violate ]. Responding to personal attacks by other users does not justify making personal attacks yourself. I will, however, warn any other users involved in this dispute who made personal attacks. Please do not restore the personal attacks to ]. ] 03:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::My last comment on that page (which was "Spread your shit on bs.wikipedia - on the '''en''', we don't take crap!") was not a personal attack - I'm merely directing someone to the Misplaced Pages which is in the editor's first language. But besides that, if my last comment on that page is removed, then that discussion will have ended with a personal attack against me. (The last version without any "personal attacks" is this - http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Elaragirl&oldid=102135133). It's either remove all of them, or none of them. <font style="background:none" size="3">—]]</font> 03:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::But yes, I do realize how they can be seen as personal attacks. I've calmed down, and might go watch some TV (I think the Australian Open is on) <font style="background:none" size="3">—]]</font> 04:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Mistake on AIV == | |||
| I inadvertently removed your report before applying the block rather than the other way around. I should have realized that the two functions aren't commutative. :) Please pardon the mistake, this is my first hour of doing this. Regards, ] 01:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == "No longer needed" == | |||
| You do realize that there's zero benefit in deleting old user or talk pages that contain significant content? It remains on the servers either way, and issues such as turning up in searches can be resolved by blanking. The only reason to delete is if you want to hide something from view. ] (]/]) 05:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Fake newbies welcome message spambot== | |||
| Hello I see you placed a speedy delete tag on ]. Actually if you had placed the correct wecome message <nowiki>{{wellcome}}</nowiki> if would have fixed the problem at once. There is a vandal bot adding these. Any chance of some help reverting it? ] | ] 23:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==] article== | |||
| Would you mind moving that articlle back to the mainspace? Redirects to userspace are not allowed and as such the redirect to your user subpage has been deleted per ]. That means there is no way for people who were planning to work on the article to find it! There have been various discussions about the page and I have suggested it be split into articles about- (1) HIV/AIDS and its incidence among the gay community, (2) whether homosexuality is caused by genetic or environmental factors and (3) reproduction for same-sex couples. Which seems better than this bizarre combination of those topics. References can be added during this process. But it would be helpful if the article could go back to mainspace so contributors other than yourself can work on it. Many thanks, <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 03:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Ah, I've now seen the AfD so understand the move. Is it OK if I make known the presence of the article in your userspace to those interested in developing new sourced article(s)? <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 04:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks. <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 04:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Reverting OrphanBot== | |||
| Could you please look at what you're reverting before reverting OrphanBot's actions? OrphanBot correctly identified those images as not having a source, and tagged them accordingly. --] 01:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Your AIV report == | |||
| Thank you for making a report {{#if:Jochic|in respect of ]}} on the page ]. However, we have been unable to block this user because the user has not received a final ] (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) recently or has not vandalised since that warning was given. If a user who has not been warned vandalises a page please ensure they receive the appropriate warning and only report them on AIV if they vandalise again soon after receiving a final warning. Thank you. <!-- Template:Invalid AIV --> | |||
| ] 15:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :{{Vandal|Jochic}} is a blatantly obvious sockpuppet of {{IPvandal|87.116.145.81}}, who was recently blocked for the exact same vandalism. We need not give each sockpuppet a series of warnings before being blocked. ] 15:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks for the help == | |||
| Thanks for the revert of that troll on my talk page. Looking at your history I see you're active in helping and reporting these, keep up the good work <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 17:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
| John, Thanks for your help with correcting the Stoke Newington School web site. I am Chair of Governors there and am concerned at the wide range of inaccurate information (Mark Emmerson is in fact still the head), abuse and libel (accusing senior staff of coacaine use and other acts). | |||
| While I hugely value wikipedia's model of open editing, is there nothing that can be done to stop such practices? | |||
| Henry, henry@happy.co.uk | |||
| ==Vandalism comments== | |||
| Hi John, I appreciate that you took the time to explain your case. I just saw your comments at the vandalism talk-page but I'm at work now. I'll take a look at it in more detail when I get home, but thanks very much for registering them. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:27, 5 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == My RfA == | |||
| Hey John, | |||
| I just would like to thank you for your support in my recent request for adminship, which passed with a final tally of 54/13/11. I appreciate the trust expressed by members of the community, and will do my best to uphold it. | |||
| Naturally, I am still becoming accustomed to using the new tools, so if you have suggestions or feedback, or need anything please let me know. - ] 21:27, 5 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The == | |||
| Without prejudice, I've reverted your close of this debate. Please make sure that when you close deletion debates that you user ] on the talk page, eh? - <font color="black">]</font> 06:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Your 3RR report == | |||
| Hi John, could you please let me know what your involvement was in the ] 3RR incident? | |||
| If you'd like, you can email me. Thanks, ] 04:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I wasn't involved in the content dispute over ]. I discovered this situation when ] reported an apparent three-revert rule violation by ] on ]. Looking through the history of the article, I noticed that most of the edits that ] had reverted were made from various IP addresses, and that ] had joined in the edit war started by the IPs. The use of IP addresses, especially multiple IP addresses, for the purpose of reversions in a content dispute raises the possibility of sockpuppetry by the established users participating in the dispute. Thus, as a concerned user, I filed ]. If the result of that request had been a determination that ] was unrelated to the IP addresses in question, that would have resolved the situation. Indeed, if ] really were editing from "(rural) Tennessee" as he claimed on his talk page, ] would have almost certainly have found that ] was unrelated to the IP addresses in this dispute, which were located in Chicago, Illinois. Perhaps this issue could be resolved by asking ], who responded to the checkuser request, whether the IP address used by ] at the time of the incident is consistent with his claim that he is editing from "(rural) Tennessee". ] 05:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I decided after consultation with all involved to reverse the block. I appreciate the work you put into your evidence, but I think we don't have enough to make a convincing case, and decided to give ElKevbo the benefit of the doubt. Thanks again for your effort, ] 06:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Changing autobacklog settings on AIV == | |||
| Greetings! I've noticed a couple of times that you have changed the autobacklog settings on ] "due to the time-critical nature of reports on this page". I haven't, however, seen you changing the settings back after your report(s) was/were handled. In these cases, it would probably be better/easier to simply change the <nowiki>{{noadminbacklog}}</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{adminbacklog}}</nowiki> by hand, rather than changing the settings so the bots will change it. Manually making the change will not cause any problems for the bots (as long as you don't change anything other than adding/removing the "no" in the template), and the bots will not reverse your change (as long as the number of reports is more than the RemoveLimit setting). This way, the setting will not remain different than the consensus-derived value for extended periods of time, but you still call attention to the page by enabling the backlog. Thanks, and thanks of course for your contributions to keeping Misplaced Pages vandalism-free! —] <small>(])</small> 18:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Ejaculation == | |||
| I'm not sure where you have been for the past three months, but discussion on the ejaculation article is an old and well argued discussion. I'm not going to rehash the whole discussion with you. You could read the archive of the talk page and you would see that a group of people negotiated movement of the image from lede down to a section. Since that time there has been a consensus supporting the current version. The linkimage is a new change, not one discussed first. No attempt to discuss this has ben recently made. This was discussed many moths ago, and an agreement that linkimage was not appropriate was the outcome at that time. | |||
| I don;t mean to be unfriendly, my apologies if I seem that way. It seems every third day there is someone who comes along and tries to remove the image becuase they think it is pornographic. After long debate we have worked through that for some time. For a month and a half it has been quiet, and we have had a consensus. Now, you feel that it should be different. That's fine with me, but you will need to discuss it on the talk page, and get others to agree with that. In the mean time I am going back to what has worked the longest. Thanks, ] 22:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :]. Looking at the current discussion, there appears to be strong opposition to inline display of the photograph by several users, and strong support for inline display by only one user. In any event, I see no need for inline display; if readers want to see the photograph, they can simply click on the link. Linkimaging the photograph simply means that readers who don't wish to view the photograph won't see it; examining the discussion on the talk page, there appear to be quite a few readers who have expressed this preference. ] 23:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I couldn't help but notice that you have wound up in the same fight as I did. I just wanted to point out the same as Atom did that the discussion has gone round and round. If you really want to do something about the image, you are probably going to have to go through arbitration. Atom will do little more than call you a bible thumper, discredit any other image as "not as good", play dumb about the image's content, make broad misquotes of law, use and army of fellow "anti-censors" to make reverts, and deny that there is a consensus until you drop it. This has been going on since December. At some point, I simply decided that when users like Atom can set up camp on a page and impede it that Misplaced Pages lacks sufficient oversight and is wrapped in too much red tape. I decided after several attempts to get someone higher involved that it just wasn't worth the effort. Misplaced Pages can continue to suffer if it doesn't have the collective foresight to clean house and enforce policy. However, if you should decide to go to arbitration, I am willing to back you up, since I was for the longest time the only one willing to counterpoint Atom's daily horse shit. -- ] 08:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == about your edit on CVU == | |||
| About this edit . The template {{tlx|unmaintained}} is not a "bad" template, it's a pointer that there are data on the page that are inaccurate and outdated, and by checking the contributions of said page, not much non-vandalism edits had been going on lately. If you are active maintaining the page, I'm sorry if you felt overstepped, and I hope that you might fix all the inconsistencies. The major problem is that the IRC section is totally outdated, only one still part of the CVU could fix that (for example '''''' belongs to ] not CVU). | |||
| Another question that may be appropriate, is the question if CVU still exists, as VCN seems to have taken over much of that. <sub>→]]</sub> 17:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Much of the information on ] is actually transcluded from ] (which is also transcluded into ]). Consequently, the edit history of ] itself does not reflect the many updates that have been made to the tool list. If the information on the IRC channels -- which is from ] -- misattributes the owner of these channels, you are welcome to correct it. As to whether the CVU still exists, I can confirm that it does, primarily due to the efforts of ] and myself to defeat ]' plot to destroy the CVU by nominating it for deletion using ] as a sockpuppet -- see ], ], and ]. As a result of my extensive arguments against the deletion of the CVU, I now have the distinction of being the only user whose talk page is currently being targeted by ] for vandalism -- see ], for example. ] 17:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have checked the IRC now, and the "only" cvu channel that existed vws #cvu, and it's invite only, so I removed all cvu irc channels from the page. <sub>→]]</sub> 18:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == RfA thanks == | |||
| Hi, John. Just a quick note to say thanks for your support at ]. The level of support was overwhelming and I intend making good the trust bestowed upon me. Thanks again. ] ] 21:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hey, just to let you know I removed the above IP from ] as it had only had 2 edits and one post your warning, I've given the IP a test 3 warning now, so hopefully this will stop further disruption. I'll keep an eye on the IP to make sure they don't vandalise anymore, regards ]<sup>See ] or ]</sup> 22:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Good spot with the sock IP ]<sup>See ] or ]</sup> 22:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] 17:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC) == | |||
| I'm sorry about the vandalism - but it wasn't me. I think I must be sharing someone else's IP (I have a router, could that be it?) because I've never been to the ] article. ] 17:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == LHTV == | |||
| Hi, | |||
| I have put a redirect to Llanishen High School and copied the material to that entry. Regards ] 18:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == blocking notification == | |||
| Concerning the temporary block notice for ], you and I had an edit conflict in issuing the notice. So, rather than having two show up (don't need to pile it on), and since I was the blocking admin (I'll take the heat), I removed the notice you added and left mine (which contained the specific reasons I had for the block). Thanks for reporting the problem. — ] (]) 16:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==OK I'm new to Wiki== | |||
| Could somebody explain what the difference between a "company promotion" page and info on a company? John254 decided that my Velma's Kettle Corn page is unacceptable, yet I see a Wiki link for ], ], ]. Obviously those are "brand" names and I'm a nobody. Obviously these pages are ABOUT THE COMPANY. The Orville link has a logo and the Act II has a link to the company website. (That's basically what I did for my tiny company) Who gets to decide when I'm appropriate for Wiki? When a company enters the "national psche?" Do I need a certain amount of profits? Do I need to be advertising nationally? Every band in existance has a Wiki entry. Almost every band wants to sell you their CD or a song. THEY are in business to make money. My product is wrapped in plastic and so is theirs. What's the difference? If you're making money off of art you can have a Wiki entry? {{unsigned|Biksco}} 16:33, 13 March 2007 | |||
| :The biggest problem with ] was that the article was written in the tone of an advertisement, including substantial praise for the product, and locations at which the product might be purchased. Like all Misplaced Pages articles, articles concerning consumer products should be written from a ]. Furthermore, ] is often applied quite stringently to consumer products. To establish the notability of ], you would need to show that this product "has been the subject of ]... ], independent of the subject and independent of each other". Finally, you describe ] as "my product". If you do indeed have a significant financial interest this product, either through ownership of the company which produces it, as an employee this company, or otherwise, you should not create a Misplaced Pages article concerning it, as this would be considered a ]. ] 01:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Your edits to Template:Notcensored2 == | |||
| This concerns your edits of <span class="plainlinks"> and </span>, ] ]. | |||
| Whether specific pictures actually "are", or merely "may be", necessary to the quality of an article is an argument I'll leave to specific article talk pages. | |||
| However, I simply can't see blanking from a talk page template the general advisory that "Off-topic discussions, including ''discussions about the acceptability of images of nudity on Misplaced Pages'', serve no constructive purpose in improving the article, and may be removed." | |||
| That remains true whether or not anyone warns the reader/editor of the fact. It's explicit in ]: | |||
| :* '''Keep on topic''': Talk pages are not for general conversation. Keep discussions on the topic of how to improve the associated article. Irrelevant discussions are subject to removal. | |||
| :* '''Be positive''': Article talk pages should be used for ways to improve an article, not to criticize, pick apart, or vent about the current status of an article. However, if you feel something is wrong, but aren't sure how to fix it, then by all means feel free to draw attention to this and ask for suggestions from others. | |||
| :* '''Stay objective''': Talk pages are not a forum for editors to argue their own different points of view about controversial issues. ... | |||
| The template just gave its fair warning up front, without the reader having to go look at the guidelines from the link atop the edit page. | |||
| This isn't about <span class="plainlinks"></span>; it's about '''keeping on-topic'''. | |||
| To make that clearer, in case anyone else might get confused on the matter, I've <span class="plainlinks"></span> as: | |||
| :As the ] state, discussions which are off-topic (not about how to improve the article) may be removed, so this is not the place for ''discussions about the acceptability of images of nudity on Misplaced Pages''. | |||
| Such issues are too broad for a single article's talk page; they are certainly too broad to try settling by deleting content from a template, or by deleting the template itself. They should be taken to ], and openly discussed there. -- ] <small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 06:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Verifiability == | |||
| "If an article topic has no reliable sources" is not the same as "If an article itself cites no reliable sources". We don't delete articles as unverifiable because they don't cite sources. We delete them as unverifiable because no sources exist. Please adhere to our ] and the ], which both state that one should do one's homework and ''look for sources onesself'' before nominating something for deletion for being unverifiable. For starters, a nomination that states "I looked for sources here, here, and here, and found nothing." will have far greater weight in a discussion. An article is only unverifiable if ''both'' it cites no sources ''and'' all attempts to find sources come up emptyhanded. ] 14:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Ah, John, I was just going to write you the same thing. I agree with Uncle G, most of WP articles do not cite sources but we cannot delete them only because of it. Try to find the sources yourself please :-) Happy editing! --] 16:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| <s>::Actually, ] clearly states that <blockquote>Editors should provide attribution for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. ''The burden of evidence lies with the editor wishing to add or retain the material.''</blockquote><s>] 13:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)</s> | |||
| :I have withdrawn a number of the AFD nominations. Also, I will make a reasonable effort to find sources for an article myself before nominating any more articles for deletion on the grounds of unverifiability. ] 03:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Ejaculation image == | |||
| After more than two days, I removed the speedy tag from the image. The image has been kept at IFD, and legal concerns are too complicated to be a ] anyway. Please use ] or ] as more appropriate venues for discussion of this issue, or wait for the image to be deleted as a PUI. Thank you, ] (]) 12:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Edit conflict == | |||
| Hi there. You just added, perfectly correctly, a warning to the editor responsible for the article ]. The point is, I had just tagged the article for {{tl|speedy}} and was adding a warning at the same time as you. Would you think it reasonable to assume that if an editor adds a tag he/she will follow up with a warning to the editor at fault? Certainly I always do, and accordingly for you to jump in and warn an editor whom I have tagged is very time-inefficient. Warn them, OK. But please wait a short time to see if the tagging editor is already doing so.--] 16:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Your take on ] == | |||
| John, I fear you may be misinterpreting the purpose behind the above link, specifically the text, "If an article topic has no reliable sources, Misplaced Pages should not have an article on it." The purpose of the text, as near as I can tell, is to note something that constitutes a rephrase: if the reliable sources for an article topic simply do not exist, then WP etc. That is, a lack of attribution is not cause for deletion, if the sources exist, we just have to provide links. --] 22:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I have withdrawn a number of the AFD nominations. Also, I will make a reasonable effort to find sources for an article myself before nominating any more articles for deletion on the grounds of unverifiability. ] 03:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Might I suggest you also wait at least two weeks after an article is first created before submitting it to AfD? Imagine the poor new editor who in good faith creates an article, saves his work, then goes back to add something five minutes later andfinds a deletion notice on it. How likely is that person to edit the article again to add the sourcing? How likely is he to even remain on Misplaced Pages? That could be very hurtful both to the editor and to the encyclopedia, which may lose out on a good article on a notable subject (and especially a notable non-Anglo-American subject, of which we have far too few already). Had that happened to my first article, I would not have become involved in Misplaced Pages. --] 13:18, 26 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::I will also wait for a much longer period of time before nominating an article for deletion on the grounds of unverifiability (unless the article is comprised primarily of unreferenced negative information concerning a living person, and would qualify for speedy deletion under ]). ] 00:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hello John. I have reverted a vandal removing of content in the article ]. Why do you repeatedly revert the article ] to the vandalized version? Please explain. Thank you! ] 23:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Removing unreferenced negative information from a biography of a living person is manifestly ''not'' vandalism. Indeed, such information may be removed repeatedly, irrespective of ], and editors who continue to reinsert such information may be blocked for disruption. Please read ]. Thank you. ] 23:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Diana Ross problem == | |||
| Ohh, my bad, I did not really see what the content was when i was using TWINKLE (you know that TW thing does many automatic stuff). What I examined when I was reverting was ], the anon user who removed the content, which has a bad record of vandalism and BLP violation. I did not intend to commit vandalism, in fact I have never vandalized a single page since I start editing long ago, please ]. Thank you! ] 23:49, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :] is not a vandalism warning, but merely a warning about ] policy, which nonetheless might, retrospectively, seem somewhat excessive under the circumstances. ] 00:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == My RfA == | |||
| Thank you for your support in my recent successful RfA.--] 19:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| You tagged this article for speedy deletion, but it doesn't appear to be an attack page. Wrong tag? ] 02:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I tagged ] for speedy deletion since it appeared to be entirely unreferenced, which, given the controversial nature of the subject matter, would constitute a serious ] violation. ] states that <blockquote>Administrators encountering biographies that are unsourced and controversial in tone, where there is no NPOV version to revert to, should delete the article without discussion (see ] criterion G10 for more details).</blockquote> Looking through the page history, however, it appears that there actually was a reference for the article, which I have restored. ] 02:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I guess what I'm not seeing is the negative tone. We are probably just interpreting the same things differently, so I'm curious as to which parts you think are negative in tone. ] 02:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::] does use the term "negative in tone", which is a somewhat unfortunate choice of words. The more fundamental policy here appears to be ], which states that "biographies that are unsourced and controversial in tone" should be speedily deleted. The underlying issue is not whether we believe that a description of a living person as a "porn actor" is actually negative. Rather, for ] purposes, the issue is whether, if an article incorrectly described someone as a "porn actor", such a description would be regarded as defamatory for the purpose of ] -- that is, whether such an incorrect description, if widely believed, might be likely to have a significantly adverse effect on the employment prospects or general reputation of the subject of the article. I would contend that describing someone as a "porn actor" is sufficiently "controversial in tone" to invoke ] concerns for the speedy removal and/or deletion of any unreferenced claims of this nature. ] 02:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I see. That makes perfect sense. I thought, perhaps, that you were worried about the assertions that he is gay/bisexual, given the juvenile vandals' propensity for scribbling "Lol dude, he's gay. Pwned!" or similar everywhere. The idea that the description of him as a porn actor could have been inaccurate didn't even occur to me. But I see he has an IMDb entry and, judging from his film titles (!), it's probably safe to assume he's a porn actor. ] 02:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Majorly's RfB == | |||
| Hey John, thanks for your kind support in my RfB. Sadly, it didn't pass, but I appreciate the support, and I do intend to run again eventually. Happy editing! ''']''' ] 03:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Thank you ... == | |||
| ... for all those reverts of my talk page. Busy night! :) Thanks again! - ]<sup>]</sup> 00:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| John254, seeing as you've been previously very active in discussions surrounding ] I was wondering what you thought of ]'s original idea of merging this page with ] into ]? I am thinking this makes sense. Perhaps you could rejoin the discussion about this contentious page. ] is currently the most active. Thanks. {{User:Netscott/s1.js}} 16:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Sockpuppets== | |||
| Whats your reasoning behind all those accounts being sockpuppets of the banned user? I don't know what I'm looking for. ]] 22:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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