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| Are you an administrator of Misplaced Pages? Couldn’t find you on the list. ] <small>]</small> 21:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :No, see ] for an explanation. <b>]</b><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 23:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| '''Hello Jimbo Wales, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this ]. Spread the ] by wishing another user a ] and a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /> | |||
| — Benison <small>(] · ])</small> 18:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| |}<span id="Benison:1734890634947:User_talkFTTCLNJimbo_Wales" class="FTTCmt">— Benison <small>(] · ])</small> 18:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
| == Old edits to your user page retrieved, your very early edits, etc. == | |||
| Short fiction in the form of a WP talkpage discussion, from ''Nature''. ] (]) 08:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Jimmy, I've moved your user page edits from their previous location at "Jimbo Wales" to {{noredirect|User:Jimbo Wales/old2}} with ], so they're no longer in the main namespace; the title "{{noredirect|User:Jimbo Wales/old}}" was ]. I then imported edits to your user page from some 2001 database dumps, most notably the one from August 2001, so we can now see ]! I hope this is all OK with you. | |||
| :I was looking around and came across your message. I think the story's format is cool. ] (]) 22:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| It's a long story how I ended up doing this. So ] is celebrating a milestone of 20% of our biographical articles being about women. In the ], a ] about who was the first woman to get a biographical entry here]]. I was able to give a ] of ] on ]! I've been spending the last couple of days checking the very early edits of the first biographies created around that time, and came upon ] (or ThomasEdison as it was at first in CamelCase). In the process of consolidating the Thomas Edison page history, I moved your edit from "ThomasEdison" to "Thomas Edison"; your early edit to that page on 23 January (UTC) was previously listed as the first one but ]. | |||
| ==The ] is "generally unreliable"== | |||
| Due to a new RSN discussion (I just became aware of it), the ], one of the oldest and most prominent civil rights organizations, has been declared "generally unreliable" on Israel/Palestine issues. The ADL issued a statement this was the result of a ”campaign to delegitimize the ADL” and that editors opposing the ban “provided point by point refutations, grounded in factual citations, to every claim made, but apparently facts no longer matter.” This is being disseminated on the ], and is starting to be picked up by Israeli and Jewish newspapers. A pretty strong statement by the ADL, which tends to be fairly circumspect, and not exactly a ribbon in the hair of Misplaced Pages or the Foundation. ] (]) 13:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| * In that discussion - which I didn't take part in and am therefore reading for the first time - I certainly ''do not'' see "point by point refutations, grounded in factual citations, to every claim made". This is ironic because that suggests that they have responded to a survey that found their output to contain significant misleading claims, with a statement that is ... well, misleading ''at best''. ] 14:12, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *:Whatever. It would be interesting to see if the ADL uses its formidable resources (which I believe exceed the WMF's) into an effort to demonstrate that ''Misplaced Pages ''is the "generally unreliable" source. We shall see. What is the emoticon for "popcorn"? ] (]) 15:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *::not like people already think wikipedia isn't an unreliable source. ]]] (]) 16:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *:: Well, that's a possibility. But in the end, like every single other political hot-button issue, if people are told things that they want to believe, they will believe them, regardless of whether those things are factual. ] 18:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *::They can start with ], ] and ]. ] (]) 10:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| As noted in various places like ], your first surviving edit under the username "JimboWales" was to the ThomasEdison (or Thomas Edison) page. I checked the August 2001 database dump for any earlier ones, found them, and imported to the English Misplaced Pages database. Of course you made earlier edits, but it's interesting to find early contributions attached to your username (in CamelCase form or otherwise). ] (]) 15:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :CNN staff article: so it has emerged from the "Jewish news" silo I mentioned earlier. However we all will be delighted to know that this is viewed as a slam on ADL's reputation, not Misplaced Pages's. ] (]) 20:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::From that CNN article: {{tq|“ADL’s leadership has taken a much more aggressive stance than most academic researchers in blurring the distinction between anti-Zionism and antisemitism,” said James Loeffler, professor of modern Jewish history at John Hopkins University. “It’s clear from reading the Misplaced Pages editors’ conversation that they are heavily influenced by the ADL leadership’s comments.”}} ''']] (])''' 01:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Such nerdy presents we give. Thanks, brother. ] (]) 16:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've read that article, also , and . There seems to be some agreement among these that "The WP-hivemind may be on to something." ] (]) 10:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::No worries. My Christmas gifts are ], as I realised later. ] (]) 05:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'm sure there will be more exposure, and of course the question will be whether one "likes" the ADL or "dislikes" it. If you are in the former camp you will not like what Misplaced Pages did. If you dislike the ADL you will be happy. That's where this stacks up. ] (]) 14:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I hope that attitude, which I agree is inevitable in many parts of the media, stays far away from our discussions of the issue. Liking or not liking, agreeing or disagreeing, is really a terrible way for anyone to decide whether a source is reliable, and not the way that Wikipedians approach it.] (]) 14:51, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Old edits to your user page retrieved, your very early edits, etc.
Hi Jimmy, I've moved your user page edits from their previous location at "Jimbo Wales" to User:Jimbo Wales/old2 with a little assistance, so they're no longer in the main namespace; the title "User:Jimbo Wales/old" was already taken. I then imported edits to your user page from some 2001 database dumps, most notably the one from August 2001, so we can now see the first version of your user page on 19 January 2001 (UTC)! I hope this is all OK with you.
It's a long story how I ended up doing this. So WikiProject Women in Red is celebrating a milestone of 20% of our biographical articles being about women. In the draft press release about this event, a question was raised about who was the first woman to get a biographical entry here]]. I was able to give a definitive answer of Rosa Parks on 21 January 2001 (UTC)! I've been spending the last couple of days checking the very early edits of the first biographies created around that time, and came upon Thomas Edison (or ThomasEdison as it was at first in CamelCase). In the process of consolidating the Thomas Edison page history, I moved your edit from "ThomasEdison" to "Thomas Edison"; your early edit to that page on 23 January (UTC) was previously listed as the first one but not any more.
As noted in various places like this discussion, your first surviving edit under the username "JimboWales" was to the ThomasEdison (or Thomas Edison) page. I checked the August 2001 database dump for any earlier ones, found them, and imported all of them to the English Misplaced Pages database. Of course you made earlier edits, but it's interesting to find early contributions attached to your username (in CamelCase form or otherwise). Graham87 (talk) 15:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Such nerdy presents we give. Thanks, brother. BusterD (talk) 16:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. My Christmas gifts are so predictable, as I realised later. Graham87 (talk) 05:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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