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	The text of this article is not very well balanced and it is based to great degree on the information provided by HHRF, which is a Hungarian foundation protecting interests of the Hungarian minorities living abroad. They are far from being independent. Moreover, they are not supported by any major nongovernmental organization from outside Hungary, which is quite strange. I do not consider their website a credible and authoritative source and I tagged this article as non-compliant with the standards of Misplaced Pages until it cites only major credible sources that do not push a particular POV. ] 03:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)		The text of this article is not very well balanced and it is based to great degree on the information provided by HHRF, which is a Hungarian foundation protecting interests of the Hungarian minorities living abroad. They are far from being independent. Moreover, they are not supported by any major nongovernmental organization from outside Hungary, which is quite strange. I do not consider their website a credible and authoritative source and I tagged this article as non-compliant with the standards of Misplaced Pages until it cites only major credible sources that do not push a particular POV. ] 03:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

			:References include the ] (an affiliate of ]), ], ] (newspaper with the largest circulation in Hungary), and ] (largest internet portal in Hungary), Slovak sources also mentioned. ] (]) 06:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	What if you would not call any source a POV, wich is not in Serbian or Slovak or not reflects your POV. You're maintaining a perfect ].

			== This article is not objective ==

			This page is extremely "prohungarian" and it is not objective, because it is blaming Slovak politics and inhabitants for the whole conflict. The article is talking only about Slovak extremists, except 2 sentences, where it is talking also about Hungarian acts of extremism. It is obvious that this article was written by some Hungarian supporter of ethnic conflicts. I live in borderlands between Slovakia and Hungary, and I could write much more about fascist Hungarians than about fascist Slovaks. Many people will disagree with me because I am Slovak inhabitant, so I would like someone who is not involved in this conflict to clean this article and make it objective. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:I agree and add, that the article is very selective regarding the sources, majority of them are Hungarian. This is not only biased per se, but also makes it almost impossible for an independent third party to review and arbitrate. Adding POV template. ] (]) 06:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
			::Please post your suggestions to improve the article and we will discuss them one by one. Post your suggestions and the rationale for each change here. I'm sure there are suggestions which are acceptable to everyone and the article can be improved. Drive by tagging without suggestions to improve is not acceptable. ] (]) 16:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
			:::I searched the article for .sk , websites from Slovakia and found several hits. Following a twisted logic what should be done because "is not only biased per se, but also makes it almost impossible for an independent third party to review and arbitrate" or add POV templates to every article containing Slovak sources? I reject that notion completely. ] (]) 17:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
			: I agree, the last (and unsourced) sentence is quite odd to say the least. ] (]) 12:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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			Removing the logo comparing the SNS and Nazi logos. Find a source providing commentary or else it is original research. They look similar but the article does not say if it was based on or inpspired by the other.] (]) 13:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

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	''"], the vice-president of the Smer party, has called for the banning of singing the Hungarian national anthem in Catholic Churches, claiming that this is disloyal to Slovakia.<ref> http://www.hhrf.org/monitor/206slo.htm</ref> Even ], current prime minister and leader of the Smer party, has made controversial statements in this regard as well.<ref>http://index.hu/politika/kulfold/nyitra5601/ </ref>"''
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	The section was moved from ] here, by infed banned ]. Into that article, indef banned (for two month - LOL) ] moved from ] article. Into that article, the refences were added by ] , so as the whole section.

	So:
	*It was added by another user, ] , not a banned one.
	*Not only references but the whole "section", if two lines can be called a section.
	*The section does not claim that Caplovic was prime minister (or any similar). Nor mentioning 2002 or any date, and nor in that kind of a context.
	*Tankred claimed many times before, that he's not speaking Hungarian, but here, claimes the sources are inaccurate. Well, they're not. http://www.stars21.com/ - a good page or text translator. for en-hu-en.

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	This is the problem, not User:VinceB (me). Speak nice, or die. --] 17:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

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The text of this article is not very well balanced and it is based to great degree on the information provided by HHRF, which is a Hungarian foundation protecting interests of the Hungarian minorities living abroad. They are far from being independent. Moreover, they are not supported by any major nongovernmental organization from outside Hungary, which is quite strange. I do not consider their website a credible and authoritative source and I tagged this article as non-compliant with the standards of Misplaced Pages until it cites only major credible sources that do not push a particular POV. Tankred 03:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

References include the International Herald Tribune (an affiliate of The New York Times), BBC, Népszabadság (newspaper with the largest circulation in Hungary), and Index (largest internet portal in Hungary), Slovak sources also mentioned. Squash Racket (talk) 06:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

This article is not objective

This page is extremely "prohungarian" and it is not objective, because it is blaming Slovak politics and inhabitants for the whole conflict. The article is talking only about Slovak extremists, except 2 sentences, where it is talking also about Hungarian acts of extremism. It is obvious that this article was written by some Hungarian supporter of ethnic conflicts. I live in borderlands between Slovakia and Hungary, and I could write much more about fascist Hungarians than about fascist Slovaks. Many people will disagree with me because I am Slovak inhabitant, so I would like someone who is not involved in this conflict to clean this article and make it objective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.119.121.227 (talk) 21:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree and add, that the article is very selective regarding the sources, majority of them are Hungarian. This is not only biased per se, but also makes it almost impossible for an independent third party to review and arbitrate. Adding POV template. Wladthemlat (talk) 06:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Please post your suggestions to improve the article and we will discuss them one by one. Post your suggestions and the rationale for each change here. I'm sure there are suggestions which are acceptable to everyone and the article can be improved. Drive by tagging without suggestions to improve is not acceptable. Hobartimus (talk) 16:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I searched the article for .sk , websites from Slovakia and found several hits. Following a twisted logic what should be done because "is not only biased per se, but also makes it almost impossible for an independent third party to review and arbitrate" or add POV templates to every article containing Slovak sources? I reject that notion completely. Hobartimus (talk) 17:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree, the last (and unsourced) sentence is quite odd to say the least. FuFoFuEd (talk) 12:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Logo

Removing the logo comparing the SNS and Nazi logos. Find a source providing commentary or else it is original research. They look similar but the article does not say if it was based on or inpspired by the other.Cptnono (talk) 13:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)