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	Hi, this is a good standard of article, I feel as a suggestion that the introduction should make what the article actually refers to a little clearer however. I live in Ayrshire so I know that these are areas of land, but if you can imagine someone from half way across the globe in the U.S or Australia reading this article they would be quite clueless I'm sure! It's not particularly clear that we're talking about land, far less historical boundaries in Scotland so I think it would be helpful if a sentence or two were added at the start such as "Corsehill, Lainshaw, Robertland and Dunlop were traditional areas of land in the modern county of East Ayrshire in Scotland". Misplaced Pages is after all a global encyclopedia and the intention is that you can read any article without any background knowledge, so the very first thing the article should do is explain what it's referring to (even if this is obvious) - e.g "A '''pen''' is a writing device used to dispense ink onto a piece of paper".
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	I would add this but I'm not entirely sure on how one would classify the lands of Corsehill etc, myself! Aside from that there's a wealth of information here so well done, it just needs a little tweaking to make it more encyclopedic.

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	==Stables at Cunninghamhead==
	Proper name is the "Stables". This is per the title deeds. With respect, this is the true reference to this building. Also, having seen the interior condition of the building I can discuss it's material condition with some authority.

	Also, please do not over look that siginificant changes have been made to Cunninghamhead Estate recently with it's redevelopment to a retirement caravan site. Trees relatively unique to Ayrshire, hundreds of years old, have been cut down. Again, please respect comments made on this.

	Also, do you refer to the gardener's cottage at the foot of the road to the river? Your descriptions of building locations are vague.

	== WikiProject beekeeping ==

	Hi - Welcome to the wikiProject :). At the moment, we're just starting up, and next weekend, I hope to really put the project on wheels! For now, if you have the time, it would help if you could assess some of the articles in the project (take a look at the assessment department). Thanks -- <strong>]]]</strong> 14:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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	Hi. I suggest you check out ]. --] 10:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

	==Kilmarnock and Troon Railway==
	Hi Rosser, as far as I can see from an 1819 town plan by John Wood, the site of the original station was indeed more or less where the Co-op building is now. There are a couple of buildings attached to the end of the track on the map so I can only assume that was the station, the R.V.J. Butt directory lists the first station as opening in 1812 and closing in 1843 to be replaced by a second station (presumably what became the St Marnock depot), before being replaced with the current station in 1846. - ] 15:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

	==Cunninghamhead==
	Rosser, find it strange that the Cunninghamhead article has been edited to almost completely remove any reference to Cunninghamhead! Perhaps you should create a separate article for Annick Lodge, with Quarryholm in there too (where it should be).

	Cunninghamhead Railway station certainly deserves a part to itself.

	As for the mansion house on Cunninghamhead Estate, it is never refered to as a castle and this is totally misleading. I would suggest that you correct this. As a point of interest, you used to be able to see the layout of the house in very dry summers!

	::I have posted my thoughts on this comprehensive, however large, article on ]. I think it needs work to edit this one large article into what could become an excellent series of articles. Misplaced Pages needs contributors like yourself to unearth this type of information. ] 21:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

	:::I am not sure who is editting this article - but is was not me. In fact I have '''not'''carried out any edit on ] or ]. My suggestion on the Talk page was an attempt to steer a middle course between your excellent article (as I have previous said) and the comments from ]. In fact I would suggest that you query should have been directed in that direction. ] 21:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

	== ] is getting out of hand ==

	Hi Rosser1954! Your work on the Dalgarven Mill page is clearly a labour of love, and I don't want to dampen your ardour by pouring cold water on it, but the recent additions are making the page ridiculously long. Many cities have shorter entries! This page is in danger of turning into a novel. The material on such a page should really be a succinct description of the salient points of the subject in question. (For instance, your recent addition of a "]" is, I'm afraid, completely out of place. The terms are mostly wikilinked, and most of those links are blue, which indicates that it should be possible to wikilink those words where they first appear in the article, either to Misplaced Pages or , making your dictionary superfluous.) Have you thought about doing what ] suggested on the ] page at 10:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC), and transferring much of the content to , where it would be far more appropriate? Sorry, but I think any further edits to Dalgarven Mill should be to prune rather than add new material. ] \| ] 00:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

	==Your edit to ]==
	How on earth is ] a related link? --] 17:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

	Because the Mistletoe berry contains a sticky whitish 'semen-like' fluid that is identified in pagan beliefs as the the 'semen' of the 'gods' ready to fertilise nature and bring back spring. Hence the kissing under the mistletoe and removing a berry with each kiss, etc. Rosser1954.

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	Interesting picture with NGG16 143 in the background using the now removed water tower siding. I think I can identify the Guard - if you can put a date and time to the picture, I will be able to confirm my suspicions by checking the back rosters. I am certain it is not me - I normally wear a waistcoat when guarding. ] 21:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

	::I will look up my diary. A wonderful day and a most memorable visit. I was member of the WHR for many years as a child and this was a special trip to sample the delights of all your hard work. Rosser 1954.

	:::Hello Stewart - took me a while to find my diary. The photo was taken on Wednesday, August 10th. 2005. Rosser1954

	::::Will have missed you be a a few days having returned to Scotlnad the previous Monday from 10 days volunteering (including guarding trains out of Caernarfon. ] 16:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

	==Moretonhampstead railway station==
	Thanks for posting the images of Devon railways. The picture of Moretonhampstead is not from the 1880s - the rolling stock is clearly not broad gauge. I have seen a copy of this which claimed it was a 1909 view, but as it is a postcard I am unsure whether this was the date taken or the date posted. It certainly was not taken before 1905 as the locomotive is a small praire which could not have been on the branch before then. ] 08:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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	Hi. Thanks for adding those pics of Ilfracombe station. I was wanting (eventually) to split ] into a separate article but the lack of photos made this a long-term prospect.

	The article may still benefit from a bit of re-arrangement, in particular, the gallery may be better placed after the (meagre) text for Ilfracombe station itself. The ticket may be OK where it is, though. Very glad to see that they're all clear of copyright issues.

	It is in my plans to add further detail to this article, but other edits are always taking me away. In the meantime, contributions from others are always more than welcome! :o)

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	: Similar sentiments from me. Nice to see some pictures of that kind on wikipedia, especially as the only other ones online are orphaned. No-one knows who took them :-( ] 09:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

	Just a thought... If your scanner can hack it, and the original photos will cope, you could add higher resolution images than you have thus far. (It is possible to replace an existing image file with a new one of the same name.) WP prefers to have the highest resolution available - it has software to resample the picture for use as, say, a thumbnail. That way, when anyone clicks on a picture to see a larger image, they can see all the detail in the original. (For example, what's the diesel hauling the train in Barnstaplejunction.jpg ?)

	As far as the Ilfracombe pics are concerned, once the station article is underway I shall move the gallery contents, leaving just one representative pic in the branchline article. (But don't hold your breath!!)

	] 13:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

	:Could this mean ] is expected to arrive soon? :-P ] 13:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

	Possibly, but only if I can stop myself being side-tracked by ]s, ]s, ] books, ]s and countless other pages!

	''(double :-P )'' -- ] 14:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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	==Bees and inebriation==
	Please take a look at my rough draft at ] and give me your opinion.--] 21:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
	:With the help of ], I have now revised ] and I am pondering publishing it on WP as ] or some such title. Comments?--] 23:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

	::I would like to see a full definition of 'inebriation' in the context of the article. How does one know if a bee has a hangover and when it doesn't. The article is a little too anthropomorphic - bees being 'punished' for instance. Rosser1954

	Thanks for your comments. I had heard the "punished" in a book review, but I decided that was a bit too much of a stretch. I gave the link to the article about a hangover. I have written to the author to get a better reference, but I have no reply yet. I did track down the pioneering work linking ] with hangovers done at UCSF by Ulrike Heberlein's group using a fruit fly model. Apparently bees also have octopamine as a neurotransmitter, so it is not at all unlikely that bees suffer similar ] effects as fruit flies and humans, but I do not know how firmly established hangover is in bees, at least chemically. The claims of "hangovers in bees" are based purely on observation, would be my guess. So how does the article look now? --] 16:12, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

	The article is well presented and most interesting. Just a few 'tweeks' here and there. ]

	== Etymology of "Haytor" ==

	Hi. In your recent edit to ], I'm wondering from where you got the etymology of "Haytor" (from "High" and "Tor").

	Neither of my placename reference works give that derivation: ''The Place Names of Devon'' (1932) says it was "Idetordoune" in 1566 changing to "Itterdown" by 1789, and states that the present name is corrupt and probably influenced by spellings of "Haytor Hundred", which is in South Devon.

	On the other hand Eilert Ekwall's ''Concise Oxford English Dictionary of English Place-names'' (4th ed. 1960) gives "Eofede torr" in 1323 and states that "eofede" may be related to OE "ifig" meaning "ivy". "Torr" means high rock, rocky peak or hill.

	So neither book agrees with your etymology. But I must admit that they are both getting on a bit, so do you have a more recent reliable source for the etymology?

	] 16:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC) - - - (by the way, I like the trick of placing the TOC on the right - I'll remember that!)

	== Your edit to Haytor ==

	Noticing it I wondered if you knew about this piccy ]. I spotted it when I was trying to get some regional pics into cats on Commons. Cheers --] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">]</span></small></sup></b> 16:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
	:Glad to help. Given our interests have some crossovers and the fact that I am working on trying to cat the many uncat'ed images in Commons (largely landscape type and uk for now) anything you want me to look out for? Cheers --] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">]</span></small></sup></b> 08:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

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	Is this something that will likely have a WP article about it? Thanks. - ] 14:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

	Hi Grubber - Link added - Rosser

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	Please read the comments on ] where I recommend moving some of your work to or or where it would be more appropriate. If you need help moving stuff to you user space temporarily or anything else let me know, it looks like you are doing a lot of hard work and it looks like good stuff but you need a different place to put it. ] 14:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

	* I read your entry at ] and have responded in the same place. I think you have done a huge amount of work and I also think Misplaced Pages is not the correct location for it, either Wiktionary or Wikibooks would be. I also don't think the article ] will survive a ] test. I have also read your entry on ] and the answer is no I don't think the Earth would stop revolving, anymore then it would if you copy and pasted the whole New York City phone book to the bottom of every article that mentions New York on Misplaced Pages but it would not help anything either. Every body of work has a home it's just that an Encyclopedia is not a Dictionary, you have chosen the wrong home for this work. ] 22:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

	===Move to Wikibook===
	I just took all the ] article and made it into a wikibook at Seems to have made the move pretty well. This is my first significant edit on WIkibooks so I don't know much about it. When I began the move I was directed to the page which talks about the difference between Misplaced Pages and Wikibook, take a look. I think your work is going to do a lot better there as a book then it does here as an article. On Wikibook you can divide it into chapters and lots of cool stuff. If you need help with anything like make chapters let me know (at ] here on wikipedia. DO you have any ideas on how to section the new book in to chapters? Do you think "Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary" was the right choice for a name? Let me know.

	==Local history glossary etc==
	To be honest I'm not sure what to suggest. After having a look at Wikibooks it would seem the ideal location for your work. I might be inclined to agree that although your work is fantasic, its perhaps not really suited to Misplaced Pages. Have you ever considered creating a website of your own? You've certainly got the content for it, and it would allow you to publish your own work without other people coming along to edit it. I've had thoughts about doing such a thing myself.

	Just something to consider. --] 21:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

	:Thanks for the helpful advice. It is driving me a bit crazy, putting in thw work and then finding it does 'belong'. I suppose extending it to an encyclopaedia won't save it either.
	:Rosser.

	:PS How do you 'do' this -'''User:Pencefn\|Stewart]] 21:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)'''?

	::You can get a signature and time stamp by typing four of the ''''~'''' characters in a row, i.e. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. There's a shortcut button at the top of the editing window that does the same thing, its the one directly to the right of the button with the 'W' with the red no entry sign over it. Anything else I can do to help just let me know and I'll do my best. --] 13:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

	::: I just nominated the article "Local history glossary" for deletion ] as it has been transwikied to ]. The community may or may not decide to delete the article, I think they will deside to delete it, but I have been wrong before. I have done some of the ground work on making your article into a book. and would be happy to help more with the techincal stuff, but it is mostly your body of work and it needs your assistance to make the transition from article to book. ] 13:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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	*...that the ''']''', built in ] / ], is the oldest surviving ] ] in ] and one of the oldest in the World?

	Thanks, - ] <sup> ''']'''</sup> 18:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

	To answer your question Rosser, DYK refers to the 'Did you know...' section of the front page of Misplaced Pages. --] 14:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

	== Viaduct something or other ==

	I saw "Dick Institute" in a paragraph that seemed disconnected from the rest and it looked like vandalism so I hit the rollback button. Sorry, brother, it was an honest mistake. I've since restored your edits. <span style="font-size:95%">—], your friendly neighborhood ''']'''.</span> 10:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

	== DYK ==

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	\|On ], ], ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ].
	\|} <!-- ], ] --> --<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">''']''' <small>{]}</small></span> 03:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

	==Soon to be ex Local History Glossary==
	''(response copied from ])''<br>
	Yes, you can certainly link to wikibooks. Just type the following:<br>
	<nowiki>]</nowiki><br>
	to get a link that looks like:<br>
	]<br>
	Of course you can also pipe it in the usual way - type:<br>
	<nowiki>]</nowiki><br>
	to get a link that looks like:<br>
	]

	As for the glossary on the Dalgarven Mill page, it seemed inappropriate. For example, there's no need to explain what a ] or a ] is - the words 'cart' and 'maiden' can be considered quite basic, and weren't even used in the text of the page. There's no problem explaining on a particular page a small number of terms relevant to the subject, but I don't feel it's helpful to add huge lists of terms. And for terms which already have pages on wikipedia / wiktionary / wikibooks, the best way to explain them is just to link to the appropriate page. --] 12:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

	:* I went through and changed all the "See Also" links in wikipedia to ] using ''<nowiki>]</nowiki>''. Where there was a link in the text to "Local History" I removed the link (and included a see also the book, if not there already) as it is not appropriate as a rule to wiki link to books from the text of an article. Have you decided yet if you want to use seperate chapters for each alphabet in the book? Signed ] 13:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

	==Springside and Dreghorn railway stations==
	Brilliant photos, thanks for uploading them. Where did they come from, if you don't mind me asking? Also, what is the reference to the 'Springside Woman's Health Group' actually referring to? --] 22:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
	:Thanks for the info. I haven't actually been to Kilmaurs station, only information I've gather has been from books etc. If you want to get a newer photo for the page feel free, most of the time its only abandoned stations that I'll take pictures of. --] 15:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

	==Co-ordinates==
	If you use a website like , it'll give you the co-ordinates of a location right at the very bottom of the page. --] 12:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

	==Sandboxes==
	I've noticed you've been using your user page as storage for things you are working on. Perhaps you should consider using sandboxes to try out things, you can have as many as you want, so you can try different things without having loads of articles in the one place. The format is User:Rosser1954/Sandbox1, User:Rosser1954/Sandbox2 etc. So a link to the first sandbox would be ], and so on. For example I've been working on an improved ] page at my ].

	Just thought I'd mention it if you're wanting to keep your main user page tidy. --] 12:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

	==References and 'Burns Line'==
	Hey, nice work on the recent Ayrshire villages pages. Just to note that footnotes are meant to go after commas, full stops etc like this,<ref>Blah</ref> rather than this<ref>Blah2</ref>. Minor thing, but it looks better anyway. I've fixed the ] and ] articles. Also, you note in the Viaduct page that the ] is 'officially' known as the Burns Line. I know it was called that in days gone by but is there anything from Network Rail, SPT or Scotrail to indicate its still called that? As far as I know its 'official' name is now the Glasgow South Western Line. --] 13:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

	== Stastistical? ==

	Hi, Rosser1954. Did you ever figure out whether "stastistical" was indeed a typo over in ]? I wasn't sure how to interpret your response to me in the ]. Thanks. ] 13:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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	== Kilmarnock & Troon Railway ==

	Hello Dreamer. I was wondering about the apparent branch line on the K&T tramway. The NLS link to maps of 1821 & 1828 seem to indicate a branch at Gatehead heading across the Irvine towards Fairlie and beyond. Any ideas. Was it built or was it just a plan that never got off the ground? The G&SWR Fairlie Branch, built much later, seems to almost duplicate it. ] 15:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
	:Hey, I think that this branch is the one and the same Fairlie Branch used by the G&SWR later. There's a reference on the ] article that indicates that the Fairlie branch was originally opened in 1818. I'm assuming that the G&SWR modified the branch though, as Airey's 1875 railway map on the NLS site indicates that by that point the branch curved to the southeast at its bottom, with the original straight line to the southwest kind of greyed out on the map. That's my guess anyway. --] 12:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

	== Your link additions to wrsrecovery.com ==

	I have removed the links you added to various articles as they were inappropriate to the article. Please see the policy on ] and ]. Thank you. -- ] 20:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Re : I rechecked the site and I still don't believe that they are appropriate for the pages that they were linked to. For example, it being linked to ] and ] are a stretch. The site is also very focused on just teachers in Scotland, so is not of general interest to every reader of Misplaced Pages. I'm sorry if I came off blunt, but your editing method adding the links to multiple articles was very spam-like.

	:As for your unrelated question about the +/- numbers in green/red are in your Watch List, that is the number of bytes changed in the edit. +/green means bytes were added, while -/red is bytes removed. It's mostly an anti-vandal tool. -- ] 22:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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