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| == Nominating for deletion == | |||
| ==LinkedIn== | |||
| == In appreciation == | |||
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| Hi PamD. LinkedIn is not ok. It is non-rs and you keep using as though it is a valid secondary source. Its not. It a social media site and anything written by the person himself is ]. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 08:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::It should never be used in any ] in any instance. It a really poor choice to construct an article. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 08:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::@] The chain of links from ] led me to ], which I read as allowing use of the subject's own LinkedIn page for simple hard facts like studies and previous employment, though it would not be used to establish notability. ]] 11:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::To be more precise: ]. ]] 11:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Your rationalising it. I don't understand why those folk, wikipedia editor states such nonsense as though its valid. It shows a level of earnestness, ignorance and to a certain extent innocence that is not reflected in reality. Folk lie through their teeth all the time, particularly on social media sites. Their whole psychology is bent out of shape and that alters their perception leading them down paths in any other situation wouldn't happen. That is a known fact. Not a single line text is valid source. Even about a month and a half, two months ago there was a report in the times about folk on LinkedIn using AI to jack up their profiles. It so predominant and so widespread the site doesn't know what to do about it. I would sincerely like you not to use it. All its doing is adding work that needs to fixed later by somebody else, damaging the article in the short term and lowering the quality of the article in the present. If this was a new editor I would have moved that article to draft. It is a really poor choice. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' | |||
| :::::: {{ping|scope_creep}} I don't know what you mean by "rationalising". I am following the policy set out at ]. I do not believe that it damages the quality of an article about an MP or a highly-regarded actuary, to ] and use their own LinkedIn page for checkable statements about their academic degrees and past employment. People in positions like that have too much to lose to consider "jacking up their profiles". We're not talking about some wannabe startup entrepreneur who might be tempted to inflate their profile. ]] 14:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Your comment above, is what rationalising means. I'm not talking about some entrepreneur. The evidence is clear is day on this, even with people in power and if you looked, you'd find it. It happens all the time, and you can't mame an objective decision based on it, because you don't who is lying and who is not, until they are discovered (that is the real source, because its secondary). The whole thing is entirely subjective. Its the human condition, yet your rationalising it, that its somehow ok because the policy says so, even when its written by people who don't have a clue about it and honestly don't care. Using social media in this manner is one the biggest burden on Misplaced Pages editors time, to clean these article up. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 15:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::Please do not continue to "clean up" my policy-based edits. You have your opinions, but ] is policy. Removing content without policy-based reason is disruptive editing. ]] 15:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Okay, I will fix it. Thanks you! ] (]) 13:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi PamD, I recognize that you have been asked many times before, but I'm hoping your answer may have changed in the last few years: would you consider running for adminship? With a record as long and as spotless as yours I expect you would have a very smooth RFA. I would gladly write a nomination - though it may be superfluous in your case - and I imagine a good many others would, too. Even if you only used the tools to deal with things you would otherwise have left to an admin, it would be of considerable benefit, given your activity levels. Best, ] (]) 01:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] Thank you for your expression of confidence. Yes, I've been asked a few times over the years, but I really very rarely find there are things I can't do as a non-admin (the occasional move over an existing redirect with a history, etc), and I'd rather not take on the responsibility of feeling that I ought to be doing proper admin stuff, rather than gnoming around the encyclopedia improving or creating random articles as the spirit takes me. So I'll continue without a mop, just helping out as and when I see a need or find an interest, like ] (inspired by ]). | |||
| :I think I would also find it a worry to have to think "Am I using an admin power incorrectly here" when implementing my own choices, and am happier to leave it well alone. And yes, I sometimes feel guilty when I read about the shrinking corps of Admins, but we're all here as volunteers and I choose to contribute in my own way, selfishly. Maybe, if ever we get the house sorted out after a move 15 months ago, and if I catch up on my piles of un-managed domestic paperwork, I might reconsider. But thanks, anyway. ]] 10:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::I appreciate the detailed explanation. I would be very pleased if you reconsidered at some point, and my offer remains open. Best regards, ] (]) 16:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi, if you get a chance, could you look at what I wrote on my User Page and tell me if it makes sense, needs more explanation, or is just too corny and needs a serious rewrite? ] (]) 01:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| == Short Decent Stubs == | |||
| Hello @]how are you? I remembered you helped me with my first published page :-) Thank you. | |||
| You also said you made short decent stubs of topics and I wondered if there was a video tutorial on how to do this? I get come across lots of useful topics during my writing work but I don't have the time to do full pages. | |||
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| It is really frustrating! ] (]) 09:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Dear @], | |||
| :Hallo again @]. I can't think of any particular tutorial (there may be good stuff out there but I'm not familiar with it all), but a few key points, apart from the stuff I said before, would be: | |||
| I noticed you’ve contributed to the ] article. It’s currently under a deletion discussion, and your input would be highly valuable. Please consider sharing your thoughts on the discussion page. | |||
| :* Check thoroughly that there isn't already an article on the topic. Check variant names you find in any sources. Even if you're going to start the article in draft, act as if you're going to start it in mainspace and look to see whether any message pops up about it being deleted in the past - sometimes it'll be because AfD decided it wasn't notable, but other times because the person who started it was then blocked as a sockpuppet, or because it was entirely Copyright theft, leaving it free to be re-created. It can be useful to follow the "What links here" link too, to see if it's been discussed anywhere, or linked from other articles. | |||
| Thankyou! ]] 03:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :*If there is already an article at the title you want to use, work out how to disambiguate the new one, by adding "(writer)" or whatever. | |||
| :*Be sure that the topic satisfies ]. Some categories of topics are more-or-less automatically notable, like members of a national parliament etc (SEE ]) or legally-recognised populated places; there are special rules for academics at ]; and so on. | |||
| :*Be sure you have at least 2, preferably 3, ]. These don't have to be online, eg if you have a book in front of you or a newspaper clipping which shows the newspaper, date and page as well as the article title, but online sources are popular as they can be more easily verified. | |||
| :*If you meet the criteria, use for access to all sorts of wonderful online sources. | |||
| :*Even just for a stub, remember to make clear in the first sentence why we should be interested in the topic: "X (dates) is a Y-ish Z" and their main claim to notability. | |||
| :*Actually, something you might find helpful is the template I use, at ] - I use it to remind myself of the basic infrastructure. "In use" stays for the duration of the editing session, and "Under construction" for up to a week if still working on it. Just copy and paste that outline, and it'll be a start. | |||
| :*And write. Use surname only, after the lead; source everything; tell us why she/he or it is notable. Remember it's an international encyclopedia, so main placenames need initially to specify "England", and terms like "BBC" aren't necessarily obvious to the reader. | |||
| :*If the article would benefit from an infobox, find a good article on the same sort of topic and see which of the umpteen "Infobox" templates has been used there, then follow. | |||
| :*Edit carefully, check that all the links go where you expect them to (and not to a disambiguation page, or a footballer where you're expecting a physicist, or whatever), read through for typos, check that punctuation is in front of references, that you haven't used "curly" quotes/apostrophes, etc | |||
| :*And create a basic talk page with a couple of relevant WikiProject banners, including the appropriate Women in Red one (if nothing specific, then WIR|293 for "#1day1woman". | |||
| :*Make incoming redirects from all plausible versions of the name (married / middle / versions found in sources), to help readers and to help prevent someone else from creating a duplicate. If at this point you find a duplicate, and it's definitely the same person, then stop. Add your new content, if any, to that article. If you're convinced it's at the wrong title, then suggest a move using ]. Don't copy and paste anyone else's work to a new title. The first-created article takes precedence, even if it's poorly-written and at the wrong title. | |||
| :*If your title has a disambiguation, like "(writer)", then be sure that it is listed at the basic title, whether this is by adding or expanding a hatnote, adding an entry on a talk page, or if need be creating a new disambiguation page. By whatever means, you need to make sure that the reader looking for the topic will be able to find it! | |||
| :Well, I hope some of that lot helps - rather random jottings while listening to the Sunday omnibus of '']''! Happy Editing! ]] 11:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Looking at your user page : I see you're a professional "content creator", so you need to be familiar with Misplaced Pages's rules about ] and ], if you're considering editing for pay. | |||
| ::I see also that you've marked a lot of contributions as "minor", although sometimes they include adding new text as . Some editors get very upset about that: minor is supposed to be only very, very, minor: slight formatting changes, very obvious typo fix, etc. See ] for more info. I don't bother marking anything as "minor", myself. ]] 11:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Hello again @] yes I know about the paid for content ethics and agree whole-heartedly with them. I've been a sporadic Wikipedian! I love the project so much :-) It makes me really happy being an editor on here too. A real delight to see some little fact appear and help in my own small way to the knowledge bank. I hope to be able to do more when I'm old and stuck in front of the fire! Hope The Archers was good! I'm more of a desert island discs person at the moment. Thanks for the note on minor contributions. Will never mark anything as a minor edit from now... ] (]) 11:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hi @] thanks for all this. Hopefully I will be able to contribute a bit more in smaller chunks :-) ] (]) 11:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Adminship?
Hi PamD, I recognize that you have been asked many times before, but I'm hoping your answer may have changed in the last few years: would you consider running for adminship? With a record as long and as spotless as yours I expect you would have a very smooth RFA. I would gladly write a nomination - though it may be superfluous in your case - and I imagine a good many others would, too. Even if you only used the tools to deal with things you would otherwise have left to an admin, it would be of considerable benefit, given your activity levels. Best, Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93 Thank you for your expression of confidence. Yes, I've been asked a few times over the years, but I really very rarely find there are things I can't do as a non-admin (the occasional move over an existing redirect with a history, etc), and I'd rather not take on the responsibility of feeling that I ought to be doing proper admin stuff, rather than gnoming around the encyclopedia improving or creating random articles as the spirit takes me. So I'll continue without a mop, just helping out as and when I see a need or find an interest, like Prestolee (inspired by this).
- I think I would also find it a worry to have to think "Am I using an admin power incorrectly here" when implementing my own choices, and am happier to leave it well alone. And yes, I sometimes feel guilty when I read about the shrinking corps of Admins, but we're all here as volunteers and I choose to contribute in my own way, selfishly. Maybe, if ever we get the house sorted out after a move 15 months ago, and if I catch up on my piles of un-managed domestic paperwork, I might reconsider. But thanks, anyway. PamD 10:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate the detailed explanation. I would be very pleased if you reconsidered at some point, and my offer remains open. Best regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
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