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	== Lead section readability and relevance ==

	The lead section currently has four paragraphs, none of which are short. However, approximately one-third to one-half of the material in those four paragraphs is detailed explanations of relatively distant history.

	I propose to modify the lead section in the following way:

	1. Keep the current first paragraph as is.

	2. Move the current fourth paragraph to be directly after the first one.

	3. Transfer the current second paragraph, along with approximately the first half of the current third paragraph, into the History section.

	4. ... which leaves the second half of the current third paragraph as the ending of the lead section.


	It's not ideal, but I think it would be an improvement. In my opinion, the current amount of detail about old history doesn't belong in the lead section. ] (]) 15:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

	:The history is certainly excessive and should be collapsed into one shorter paragraph, and the lead in general is a bit lengthy. Generally history is the second paragraph, and the last paragraph contains the details on the foreign relations. Perhaps the fourth paragraph can be split rather than being completely shifted. ] (]) 01:53, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

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	The Kingdom of Ava is missing in the history section between Pagan and Taungoo Era. https://en.wikipedia.org/Kingdom_of_Ava ] (]) 02:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)		The Kingdom of Ava is missing in the history section between Pagan and Taungoo Era. https://en.wikipedia.org/Kingdom_of_Ava ] (]) 02:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

			:{{not done}},Please provide a source ] (]) (]) 20:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

			== Rhoticity of English pronunciation of "Myanmar"/"Burma" ==

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			The "Etymology" section would benefit from a reference to the article ]

			Please change "non-rhotic variety of English" to "]" ] (]) 22:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
			:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (] / ] / ]) 05:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			::I appreciate it! ] (]) 20:50, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

			== Rohingya genocide ==

			I noticed that the history section largely jumps from 2016 to 2020 without mentioning the Rohingya persecution in 2017, which seems a notable event that got a lot of international attention, at a minimum resulted in mass migration, etc. Is there a reason it wouldn't be appropriate to mention here? -] (]) 08:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

			:Further comment: I do see that the topic is presented within Government and politics> Human rights and internal conflicts> Genocide allegations and crimes against Rohingya people.
			:Given the international attention, demographic changes to the country, refugee crisis, etc., I am not sure it doesn't belong in "history" too.
			:However, even within the aforementioned section, the "2013 onwards" seems to have minimal commentary on the 2016-2017 period. At the beginning of the genocide allegations section, there is a "see also" link to "2016–17 Rohingya persecution in Myanmar" (which is not the current name of the linked article - I'd think we should link to the current name regardless rather than engaging in a separate debate) but those events aren't really mentioned much in the "2013 onwards" section of this article.
			:I think there could be some improvement here. -] (]) 08:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
			::@] I fully agree with everything said here. The genocide of the Rohingya is far too notable and significant to be confined to only one small section of this article. I also noticed that the topic of Rohingya refugees is mentioned in Demographics> Ethnic groups, but it had no word of refugees past 1991. To rectify this, I added this sentence: "Since August 2017, an estimated 23,000-43,700 Rohingya have been killed in the ongoing ], and another 730,000 have fled to Bangladesh.", with three added sources. (Hopefully it doesn't get reverted by some genocide denier, ugh.) Regarding your concern about the "see also" link, it appears as though someone thankfully changed it to "Rohingya genocide" to match the page title (unless you're the one who did that, in which case nice!!) Thank you for pointing all this out, by the way - it's really important stuff. ] (]) 11:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2023burma

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121.121.169.99 (talk) 20:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --AntiDionysius (talk) 20:57, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2023

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 11:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Myanmar /en.wikipedia.org/Myanmar

Global edit find Pagan replace Bagan. WaTaAng (talk) 19:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Not done Both terms exist and have their own Wikipages: Bagan and Pagan Kingdom. Can be done only on a case-by-case basis after a careful read. Rasnaboy (talk) 05:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Kingdom of Ava missing under 'Formation'

The Kingdom of Ava is missing in the history section between Pagan and Taungoo Era. https://en.wikipedia.org/Kingdom_of_Ava 77.187.165.0 (talk) 02:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Not done,Please provide a source UnsungHistory (Questions?) (Did I mess up?) 20:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Rhoticity of English pronunciation of "Myanmar"/"Burma"

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

The "Etymology" section would benefit from a reference to the article Rhoticity in English

Please change "non-rhotic variety of English" to "non-rhotic variety of English" Troglodv (talk) 22:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Done Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 05:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate it! Troglodv (talk) 20:50, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Rohingya genocide

I noticed that the history section largely jumps from 2016 to 2020 without mentioning the Rohingya persecution in 2017, which seems a notable event that got a lot of international attention, at a minimum resulted in mass migration, etc. Is there a reason it wouldn't be appropriate to mention here? -KaJunl (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Further comment: I do see that the topic is presented within Government and politics> Human rights and internal conflicts> Genocide allegations and crimes against Rohingya people.

Given the international attention, demographic changes to the country, refugee crisis, etc., I am not sure it doesn't belong in "history" too.

However, even within the aforementioned section, the "2013 onwards" seems to have minimal commentary on the 2016-2017 period. At the beginning of the genocide allegations section, there is a "see also" link to "2016–17 Rohingya persecution in Myanmar" (which is not the current name of the linked article - I'd think we should link to the current name regardless rather than engaging in a separate debate) but those events aren't really mentioned much in the "2013 onwards" section of this article.

I think there could be some improvement here. -KaJunl (talk) 08:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

@KaJunl I fully agree with everything said here. The genocide of the Rohingya is far too notable and significant to be confined to only one small section of this article. I also noticed that the topic of Rohingya refugees is mentioned in Demographics> Ethnic groups, but it had no word of refugees past 1991. To rectify this, I added this sentence: "Since August 2017, an estimated 23,000-43,700 Rohingya have been killed in the ongoing Rohingya genocide, and another 730,000 have fled to Bangladesh.", with three added sources. (Hopefully it doesn't get reverted by some genocide denier, ugh.) Regarding your concern about the "see also" link, it appears as though someone thankfully changed it to "Rohingya genocide" to match the page title (unless you're the one who did that, in which case nice!!) Thank you for pointing all this out, by the way - it's really important stuff. Iamextremelygayokay (talk) 11:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

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