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== Thanks for the revert! ==

Hello! Thanks for reverting me —that was an unintentional edit; I think I was having trouble with my browser's cache—just a couple edits later, I a ] tag, then, in the very next edit, somehow managed to . Sorry about that!--] (]) 21:23, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
: No worries {{ping|Jerome Frank Disciple}} I figured it was a mistake. Sort of thing that tends to happen when two users are simultaneously expanding the same section of an article. I'll leave you to it for a while, and come back tomorrow. Happy editing! ;) ] (]/]) 21:31, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
::Oh no! It appears we left the article at the same time; either way, all yours!--] (]) 12:50, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

== ] ==

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=We_Are_Chaos&diff=prev&oldid=1174674676
Hi why is Gritdaily unreliable? it seems like a perfectly fine source. -] (]) 12:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

:Hi {{ping|FMSky}} It's a long shot in hell right now, with ], but I do plan on making ''We Are Chaos'' at least a GA someday. I started work on the article several months before the allegations surfaced, so felt I might as well finish what I started. I doubt Grit Daily would survive a GA review, to be honest, but if you want to re-add it as a source for the album being rock, please feel free to. There are probably higher-profile sources (i.e., used in more articles; the named source having its own Wiki article, etc.) that could be used to support the same content.
:I don't think the Ultimate Guitar source can be used though. There's a policy somewhere saying the AllMusic sidebar can't be used to source genres, so I doubt that UG default page could be used. Happy to be proven wrong though. Hope you're keeping well, and happy editing. ] (]/]) 22:39, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

==After the trial==
Your deletion of the commercial consequences section in Depp-Heard. It seems to make sense to add a comment to say that their film careers appear to be unaffected as a result of the trial. The data included in the section you deleted covered their film production careers during the filing of the complaints to the present date once year after verdict. Why delete it? ] (]) 23:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

:One, because a substantial portion of the section was unsourced and irrelevant to the article; it read like ] for the forthcoming ''Aquaman'' film. That article is about the trial, not ''Aquaman''. Two, because of what I said in the edit-summary. ] (]/]) 00:48, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

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:Thanks Dilettante. {{ping|Daniel}} I'm assuming from your message that I can participate in the current Arb case without violating the topic ban, but in this instance it's probably best that I don't assume anything. So, can I file a statement at ] without violating the topic ban? Thanks. ] (]/]) 01:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
::Homeostasis07, you are absolutely correct. No issue with you adding a statement there (and then participating if a case is opened and you are a named party), my interpretation is that is covered by the ] subsection. Cheers, ] (]) 02:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Homeostasis07. Thanks so much for your recent heroic defence of folk like RAN & LB, and for your Arb statement. I noticed though you linked to ANI post that suggested a former ARB was "booted off ArbCom for sharing private ArbCom info on WPO". That didn't happen, the former ARB was booted for various indiscretions, the straw that broke the back being sharing ArbCom info with a non-EN language wiki. Purely for the purposes of helping out a low ranking editor who had been unfairly blocked. Most regrettable if that was the main reason he was booted - the editor's tendency to well intentioned Maverick behaviour was exactly why the community made him an Arb in the first pace. (<small>Per voting theory, electorates tend to consider overall committee composition in their voting choices. Obs if it was a one v one choice between the ultra lawful Barkeep & the Maverik, BK would get like 95%+ of the vote. But in a choice between the Maverick & a BK mini me, many would choice the Maverik, esp. if the rest of the committee was also quite orderly. </small>) So hoping you might consider removing the link from your statement? It would indeed be great if WPO in general get a slap after the loss of LB, but we ought not unfairly discredit individual WPO accounts, who had little or nothing to do with making Misplaced Pages feel so hostile for LB that even such a noble soul started being disruptive. ] (]) 09:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|FeydHuxtable}} Out of courtesy for the linked editor, I've removed the link to the comment. The overall issue should still probably be available for the arbs, so my refactoring has been minimal. Thanks for the clarification. ] (]/]) 00:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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:Shame. Oh well. Onwards and upwards. :) ] (]/]) 21:48, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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Terror Train

Long time no see! Would you be willing to look at the article for Terror Train when I finish it?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 00:27, 10 January 2024 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

Hey MagicatthemovieS, long time no see indeed! Hope you've been keeping well. Sorry about the delay in responding, but January/February is always a stinker for me, editing-wise. Quite busy at work dealing with paperwork from the pre-Christmas rush. But if you schedule this for a Friday or Saturday evening (the only time I can edit most weeks) then I'd be happy to have a look relatively quickly. Otherwise, you'd probably be left waiting until the next weekend. Have quite a few of my own potential GAs waiting in the wings, until a time when I have enough energy to deal with the reviews. Kind regards, Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 22:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Also, couldn't help but notice you tried to nominate Get Your Gunn for FA earlier this week, but didn't finish the set-up procedure. Is that something you're really interested in doing? I think it's definitely FA-quality work, but feel I should warn you now that it's a lot of work. And WP:FAC is arguably the most politicised Misplaced Pages page these days. Although recent reporting has nothing to do with a song he released in 1994, I'd be very much expecting to see all that brought up during the FA review from at least one of the "regulars". I think We Are Chaos is probably the best work I've ever done on Misplaced Pages (except the lead, which I never finished), but I've not had the stomach for even a GA MM-related review, let alone an FA one. I'm envisioning quite a mess if you proceed, to be honest. We could probably talk more candidly about this elsewhere. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 22:47, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
I hear you on the MM stuff. I'm not proceeding with that one. I'll let you know when I finish Terror Train and you can look at it at your convenience. Thanks so much! :)MagicatthemovieS (talk) 23:59, 12 January 2024 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
I think Terror Train is looking good right about now so I nominated it.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 02:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

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Re your oppose vote at Sdkb's RFA

Your rationale and followup message, particularly your parting words "compiling now," were enough to convince me that until you returned, I wouldn't have all the information I'd need to cast a vote. It's now been more than two three four days and 109 129 156 support votes (including mine) have been filed since your last edit here. Do you have an idea when you'll be back with an update? City of Silver 23:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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I just stopped by to notify you that despite ArbCom's asking you to remove it, I think (as a crat) there has been plenty of time for you to compile your concerns and send them to ArbCom or substantiate them publicly inside community norms. Therefore I both redacted the comments and struck your vote until such time you reestablish it within community norms or substantiate your claim at an appropriate venue. -- Amanda (she/her) 02:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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Resident Evil

Hi there. Did you ever recall your work at Jill Valentine before? That was amazing actually. Because of it, it inspires me to work on another Resident Evil chraracter. I hope you can chime in at my FAC soon. Thank you. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 03:58, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the kind words. Unfortunately, my personal life hasn't been great this year, with two members of my immediate family being tested for terminal illnesses. I've really not been online at all much this year. I promise I'll try to make time for the FAC, because it would be awesome to see it pass! It may take me a couple of weeks to get to it, but FACs usually take 2–3 months anyway. I wish you all the luck in the world with your nomination in the meantime. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 01:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
So sorry to hear that. It's totally fine if you can't chime in since family or real life stuffs is more important than Misplaced Pages. Thank you and take care! 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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Re:Topic ban/WPO

I don’t like WPO any more than you do, and would probably vote “oppose” on your Tban if I wasn’t a persona non grata at ANI. But even I think the “support” voters, including the ones obviously just trying to protect their own from accountability, make a point: you can’t keep casting aspersions and then saying you can’t provide evidence. You have to email ArbCom if you have legitimate evidence. Dronebogus (talk) 11:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

I agree with Dronebogus. Public or not, the results of such an investigation will largely be the same and no less public. If you have evidence, you need to email ArbCom as soon as possible before the problem gets any worse. - ZLEA T\ 16:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you both for your comments. @Dronebogus: There's been some movement, so I'm happy to provide links publicly at the ANI thread. There's quite a lot, but I thought I'd give you a heads up Dronebogus that I uncovered a lot of discussion about you on WPO, including insults. I'm sure you're aware, but would you be willing for me to include those links in my response? It's fine if you don't want to be involved, but figured it only polite to give you an opportunity to object before I post anything. Kind regards, Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 23:00, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
I’m fine with it Dronebogus (talk) 23:43, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Sorry Dronebogus, not yet. I was reluctant to post a wall-of-text, so skirted the line between succinct and comprehensive. I'll post links to comments from WP/WPO users later. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:03, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
At this point you should actually just take this to ArbCom. You might’ve avoided a topic ban if you had actually provided evidence earlier but given that you did not do that while making numerous serious allegations against other users I’m not surprised it resulted in a Tban. Dronebogus (talk) 04:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Homeostasis07, it is with some level of sadness that I come to your talk page under these circumstances. I need to advise you formally that per the rough consensus of editors at ANI (permalink), you are topic-banned from discussing Wikipediocracy. As I noted in my close, a reminder that exemptions exist to topic-bans, which in this case would include the filing of (or participation in) any future request for arbitration. Please let me know if any questions. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 04:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, Dilettante 19:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Dilettante. @Daniel: I'm assuming from your message that I can participate in the current Arb case without violating the topic ban, but in this instance it's probably best that I don't assume anything. So, can I file a statement at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Wikipediocracy-related_conduct without violating the topic ban? Thanks. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 01:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Homeostasis07, you are absolutely correct. No issue with you adding a statement there (and then participating if a case is opened and you are a named party), my interpretation is that is covered by the exemptions to topic-bans subsection. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 02:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi, just as a follow-up to the above - ArbCom is slowly edging towards accepting the case (somewhat glacially, it must be said), although the scope of any potential case is unclear. Should it be accepted, please reach out to the appointed case clerks to confirm your involvement relative to your topic-ban; I'm happy to provide supporting commentary as needed as the discussion closer, but they are the ultimate authority over case pages so just want to make it clear that they become the decision-makers at that point! Hope you are well. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 18:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Homeostasis07. Thanks so much for your recent heroic defence of folk like RAN & LB, and for your Arb statement. I noticed though you linked to ANI post that suggested a former ARB was "booted off ArbCom for sharing private ArbCom info on WPO". That didn't happen, the former ARB was booted for various indiscretions, the straw that broke the back being sharing ArbCom info with a non-EN language wiki. Purely for the purposes of helping out a low ranking editor who had been unfairly blocked. Most regrettable if that was the main reason he was booted - the editor's tendency to well intentioned Maverick behaviour was exactly why the community made him an Arb in the first pace. (Per voting theory, electorates tend to consider overall committee composition in their voting choices. Obs if it was a one v one choice between the ultra lawful Barkeep & the Maverik, BK would get like 95%+ of the vote. But in a choice between the Maverick & a BK mini me, many would choice the Maverik, esp. if the rest of the committee was also quite orderly. ) So hoping you might consider removing the link from your statement? It would indeed be great if WPO in general get a slap after the loss of LB, but we ought not unfairly discredit individual WPO accounts, who had little or nothing to do with making Misplaced Pages feel so hostile for LB that even such a noble soul started being disruptive. FeydHuxtable (talk) 09:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

@FeydHuxtable: Out of courtesy for the linked editor, I've removed the link to the comment. The overall issue should still probably be available for the arbs, so my refactoring has been minimal. Thanks for the clarification. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Homeostasis07. The Wikipediocracy-related conduct case request has been declined. While the arbitrators were closely divided, there was not an absolute majority to accept the case. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 06:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Shame. Oh well. Onwards and upwards. :) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 21:48, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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