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Hello PamD. Would you be happy to give me some assistance here please: ] Thanks, ] (]) 07:53, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
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:... and see here ] for context. ] (]) 07:55, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
::I've tried! There seems to be a history of getting things not quite right around Zonca. ]] 11:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Many thanks. ] (]) 12:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)


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:@] But if you reduce it all to one local paper, "Former nude Playboy model and Loughton resident ...", it gives a very different impression. And not all the detail is present in each version: the first ref (though its date looks dubious, I admit) is the one which gives detail of the two previous incidents. Given that someone wants to delete the article altogether, making this section appear as if "only the local paper covered it, no wider interest" seems a step to the section being deleted completely. The very fact of coverage in several sources (Mirror, Sky, and two separate articles in the Brighton paper), seems significant. ]] 13:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
::@] The AfD is over now. The article isn't getting deleted. if the section were deleted, it might actually be more compliant with the BLP policy, anyways. The first article having dubious is actually a reason to not use it. ] ] ] 14:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:: @] In regard to that section though, is the subject of the article really still a high-profile individual? I agree that notability has been established. But, if the subject is low-profile, then only information directly relevant to their notability should be included per the BLP guidelines. The criminal convictions aren't relevant to their original reason for notability. They may have been a high-profile individual at the time, but that can change. "Many Misplaced Pages articles contain material on people who are not well known, regardless of whether they are notable enough for their own article. In such cases, exercise restraint and include only material relevant to the person's notability, focusing on high-quality secondary sources." and "Material that may adversely affect a person's reputation should be treated with special care". ] (]) 15:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
:::@] I guess I take a more moderate approach, in that a few, well-sourced sentences about a criminal conviction at the end of an article isn't going to tarnish Glovers' reputation enough to justify a potentially prolonged argument. We could, potentially, even go down to one sentence: "Glover was convicted of assaulting a DJ. " After all, the assault and resulting criminal issues did happen, and it's not defamation to point that out.
:::The problem is the apparent determination that ''any'' shortening of the article could very well result in the deletion of it. On a website where stubbification is not a form of deletion but rather an alternative to deletion*, that doesn't make sense.
:::(*As an aside, I'm surprised stubbification isn't listed on ]. I've used it as an alternative to deletion several times; basically, a milder form of ]). ] ] ] 17:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
::::@] {{ping|Svenska356}}, this discussion should be visible to all on the article's talk page not scattered around many User talk pages. But I'm surprised that editors trying to minimise the negative aspects of her story haven't done much to include the positive ( a chunk of which was recently removed). I had a go this morning. ]] 17:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::Good point. Maybe we should continue on Talk:Louise Glover and link to the other discussions. ] ] ] 17:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] I agree that it should be added to the talk page. Sorry, that was my bad in terms of my attempted addition. I am not too experienced when it comes to doing that. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</small>
::::::''Context to above post: this entire section had been copied and pasted to ] with no explanation to show that it was not native to that page: I reverted. ]] 14:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)''


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Hi Pam.


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Any help you could give with the ] page would be really appreciated. Someone in California seems to have taken exception to it, but it is a genuine campaigning organisation to increase female representation in parliament. I have tried to update the references according to guidelines, and it would be great if those notices could be removed.


== Adminship? ==
If you are not able to help but could point me towards someone who could, that would be great.


Hi PamD, I recognize that you have been asked many times before, but I'm hoping your answer may have changed in the last few years: would you consider running for adminship? With a record as long and as spotless as yours I expect you would have a very smooth RFA. I would gladly write a nomination - though it may be superfluous in your case - and I imagine a good many others would, too. Even if you only used the tools to deal with things you would otherwise have left to an admin, it would be of considerable benefit, given your activity levels. Best, ] (]) 01:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
@] ] (]) 11:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)


:@] Thank you for your expression of confidence. Yes, I've been asked a few times over the years, but I really very rarely find there are things I can't do as a non-admin (the occasional move over an existing redirect with a history, etc), and I'd rather not take on the responsibility of feeling that I ought to be doing proper admin stuff, rather than gnoming around the encyclopedia improving or creating random articles as the spirit takes me. So I'll continue without a mop, just helping out as and when I see a need or find an interest, like ] (inspired by ]).
:@] In the interest of full transparency, I'm watching this talk page and am the "person from California" you're talking about. ] ] ] 15:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:I think I would also find it a worry to have to think "Am I using an admin power incorrectly here" when implementing my own choices, and am happier to leave it well alone. And yes, I sometimes feel guilty when I read about the shrinking corps of Admins, but we're all here as volunteers and I choose to contribute in my own way, selfishly. Maybe, if ever we get the house sorted out after a move 15 months ago, and if I catch up on my piles of un-managed domestic paperwork, I might reconsider. But thanks, anyway. ]] 10:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:@] I'm not clear, looking at the article, whether "Centenary Action" and "Centenary Action Group" are the same thing. Is it an organisation of individuals, or an joining-together of many organisations?
::I appreciate the detailed explanation. I would be very pleased if you reconsidered at some point, and my offer remains open. Best regards, ] (]) 16:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:The sections on "Campaign successes" and "Media coverage" are, to be honest, a mess. Take the first one: you've linked a chunk of text as an external link, that isn't how it's done. You've duplicated the same link as a reference. That ref supports the fact that IPSA makes provision for parental leave, certainly. But it doesn't mention Centenary Action. There is nothing to support the fact that CA had anything to do with this. You need to find references in ] (ie not CA's own website or publications) which explicitly state that it was campaigning by CA which led, at least in part, to the change. And the same for all your other points in those two sections.
:Yes, I'm sure CA is a good and worthy group fighting a necessary battle, but this article hasn't yet got much evidence of the coverage in ] which is needed for it to be a worthy encyclopedia article. That's why I suggested "Draftifying" it: putting it into the "Draft" space so that you and other editors could polish it up, add sources etc, without it being vulnerable to deletion as being inadequately sourced to show notability. Whether by editors from across the pond or not.
:Here's one article, for a start:
::{{cite news|url=https://www.stylist.co.uk/visible-women/womens-representation-politics-uk-mps-sexism-culture/184336 | work=] | title=Toxic culture is “actively putting women off” entering politics, say campaigners | first=Moya | last=Crockett | date=2017 | access-date=25 October 2024}}
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::@] There's also the issue of ]. Somewhere along the way you said that some text you had added to the article which was removed as copyright was OK because it had been added by the person who'd written it on their site (or words to that effect: I'm not going to chase up to find just where). That suggests that you are a volunteer or employee of CA, if you are writing their website. Please clarify your relationship to the organisation, after reading ] and ]. Thanks. ]] 16:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Pam,
:::I think Kps2015 said the thing about the copyright at the AfD. And thanks, I've been trying to point to notability policies (which, more or less, boil down to reliable sourcing). I'm okay with draftification, but ] technically disallows unilaterally moving an article to draftspace more than once (''maaaybe'' even if the person doing is has a COI? It's hard to tell). My intuition tells me this would be unilaterally moved back if I did that, anyways, so it's not worth my time. ] ] ] 17:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi Pam. Yes, that is correct, I have been asked by the organisation to put up the page on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 13:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::::@] Asked? Paid? Please read ] and ]. ]] 13:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thanks Pam. I have added a declaration to the talk section of the page.
:::::Can you let me know if there is any other objection to the page than the "Campaign Successes" section. If I delete it, will the page be OK? ] (]) 14:32, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::@] You were told six days ago about the requirement to declare being a paid editor. If you're taking money to do something, you should learn how to do it properly and not rely on the good will of volunteer editors to clean up your work. I'm sure CA is a worthy cause but I'm finished with doing the work you're being paid to do. ]] 16:33, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:::@] I am trying to get clarity on what particular part of the page there is objection to. Reading between the lines, it seems that it is just the "Campaign Successes" section. If that is the case, I am happy to delete that section until I have further references.
:::Is there any objection to the rest of the page? ] (]) 13:34, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for your help with this @]
::The organisation is called "Centenary Action". See its website - https://centenaryaction.org.uk/.
::It is a membership organisation. The members are listed on its website.
::I take your point about references and I will go back to the organisation to ask for more information.
::Yes, I am happy for the page to be moved to draft if that is the right thing to do. ] (]) 13:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:::@] What is your connection with CA? A volunteer, an employee, or what? You seem to have said that you wrote material on their website. ]] 13:33, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::::@] Hi Pam.
::::I had no involvement with Centenary Action's website. They provided me the text to create their Misplaced Pages page. So, yes, I do have a conflict, but all I am trying to get up is a factual description of what the organisation does. ] (]) 13:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] The objection I'm having is lack of sourcing about Centenary Action specifically (and not just the founder), creating concern that there might be a claim of "inherited notability" from said founder to the organization. Also, the copyright violation, but that's been cleared up. ] ] ] 18:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)


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== CE ==

I don't understand your revert but on past experience, you don't get much wrong. So can I clarify?
* ] is a list of articles known by that initialism.
* I know of no cases where, apart from deliberate "I see no ships", that anyone anywhere uses CE to mean Christian Era. Although that nomenclature has long provenance, in recent times it is used as a POV ].
* ] does not redirect to CE.
So tmli5, why is it there? ] (]) 12:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

:@] I suggest that it's a likely-enough misunderstanding of what CE stands for, to be worth retaining the link to ]. ''The Guardian'' refers to "some people prefer CE (common era, current era or Christian era)". It gets a mention in ] if that helps. ] and ] redirect to ], with a hatnote there pointing to the ] page.
:The more I look at ] and ], the more I wonder why we have two separate articles - but I suspect it's been a hugely contested area so am not going there.
:I had to Google "tmli5": seems to be Reddit term and I don't do Reddit - but perhaps it's down to age or side of the pond.
:Perhaps: Some people think that CE stands for "Christian Era", even though they're wrong (as lots of Misplaced Pages readers are about lots of things). Someone has decided that the most likely useful article for someone searching on "Christian Era" is the article ]. So we should help those people by offering a link from the CE dab page to ].
:But it's not a hill I'd fight over: it just seemed more helpful to leave the dab entry there. I suppose I've got a pretty inclusionist approach to dab page entries. ]] 12:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::Ok, that makes sense so I won't pursue. It just looked like yet another case of proselytising slipped in. And yes, it is a sensitive topic, see ]. (And apologies for trying to be trendy: another editor might have regarded tlmi5 as snarky and rightly so. I didn't spot it at the time but it is obvious now.) --] (]) 13:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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@Bearian: I only stub-sorted it, 15 years ago, but have risen to the challenge and found coords and a couple of sources; the presence of another Veliki Rit in Serbia helps justify the existence of this little stub, to avoid confusion. PamD 09:17, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

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Adminship?

Hi PamD, I recognize that you have been asked many times before, but I'm hoping your answer may have changed in the last few years: would you consider running for adminship? With a record as long and as spotless as yours I expect you would have a very smooth RFA. I would gladly write a nomination - though it may be superfluous in your case - and I imagine a good many others would, too. Even if you only used the tools to deal with things you would otherwise have left to an admin, it would be of considerable benefit, given your activity levels. Best, Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93 Thank you for your expression of confidence. Yes, I've been asked a few times over the years, but I really very rarely find there are things I can't do as a non-admin (the occasional move over an existing redirect with a history, etc), and I'd rather not take on the responsibility of feeling that I ought to be doing proper admin stuff, rather than gnoming around the encyclopedia improving or creating random articles as the spirit takes me. So I'll continue without a mop, just helping out as and when I see a need or find an interest, like Prestolee (inspired by this).
I think I would also find it a worry to have to think "Am I using an admin power incorrectly here" when implementing my own choices, and am happier to leave it well alone. And yes, I sometimes feel guilty when I read about the shrinking corps of Admins, but we're all here as volunteers and I choose to contribute in my own way, selfishly. Maybe, if ever we get the house sorted out after a move 15 months ago, and if I catch up on my piles of un-managed domestic paperwork, I might reconsider. But thanks, anyway. PamD 10:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I appreciate the detailed explanation. I would be very pleased if you reconsidered at some point, and my offer remains open. Best regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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