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== Splitting content of Super Valis IV from Valis IV into its own article ==
I don't think this discussion qualified for a SNOW closure. Typical cases I have seen close as SNOW Keeps have around 8-12 Keep votes and no Deletes. This discussion had only 4 editors arguing for Keeping this article so it falls short. I'm not going to revert your closure because I'm pretty sure that this article would have been Kept any way if the discussion had run a full 7 days and reverting the closure would be pointless bureaucracy. But you should raise the bar on what you believe qualifies as a SNOW, it's more than 4 votes of support. This distinction can become an issue if the closure is contested and is brought to ] which can be an unpleasant experience, not only for admins but also for NACs. I appreciate you helping as an uninvolved editor but be sure you are familiar with ]. Thank you and have a great weekend. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 00:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


Hey there! How are you doing? Look, i noticed that you were responsible for splitting content of SNES Dracula X into its own article. I want to suggest you splitting content of Super Valis IV that is in Valis IV into its own article, since both the PC Engine and SNES versions are entirely different games, kinda like what happened with Rondo of Blood and SNES Dracula X. I could do it if i knew how to split said content into its own stand-alone article so i figured why not ask for help. Anyways, take care and have a good day! ] (]) 00:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
:I would have !voted Keep if I did not close the discussion, so that technically makes 5 people. But I get it, the threshold is way higher than I assume. I will let an admin close any AfD discussion because I rarely see any get to 8+ keep votes in the video game realm unless it's a troll attempt... ] (]) 17:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


:{{ping|KGRAMR}} There isn't enough content for a split here, it basically needs a new article from scratch. I'd suggest simply making a new article if you want it to exist. The reception can technically be split off, but only when there's enough content in the rest of the article to justify doing so. ] (]) 00:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
== Regarding AfDs ==


== Category:Body horror video games ==
I am taking this discussion here, as in retrospect I feel the AfD itself isn't the best avenue to discuss it now that I'm not blowing a fuse. But to be frank, you have become seen as a "boogeyman" of sorts when it comes to working on character articles, and I seriously don't think that's your intention. But we have reached a point where long established editors will say in other outlets such as discord they worry you may AfD a subject they've started on and have even been discouraged from approaching a subject entirely because "Zx will probably AfD it and I don't need that stress." And we should not be dreading PresN's new article list to bring such upon works as if you're some ].


Hi, you were the driving force behind keeping ] a few months ago (see ]). I recently took on implementing the decided purge and quickly looked at every page in that category (and its subcats), and not a single one mentions the term "body horror" (NB: ] says {{tq|... the choices made by the player affect the narrative and visual design..., generally along the lines of eldritch or body horror}}, but the term is not used in the cited sources). This, paired with the fact that afaics, every page in this cat was added to it by the same user (], who also created the cat) on the same day (1 June 2024), made me think that the deletion rationale ({{tq|entirely original research}}) was mostly accurate, but that's not why I'm writing this message. I'm bringing it up, because while I'm happy to add it to articles if I find a source for it (to avoid removing the category), I'm not sure how I would add the "body horror" aspect to a video game article, even if I found sources supporting body horror as a defining characteristic, and I thought since you're a member of ] (and participated in the deletion discussion), I'd ask you (I hope that's alright).
That's ultimately detrimental to a project, especially when editors feel they have produced something high quality that meets wikipedia's standards they're familiar with, and your approach may come across as seeing it as low. I do feel AfD and even BLAR-ing have a place on wikipedia as valuable tools. But if we're seeing established editors will multiple works under their belt are working on a subject shouldn't we be having a discussion first, not to "feel out an AfD" but to make sure neither party is looking at a topic wrong? This has been an ongoing subject, and I'm definitely trying to approach this as one longtime editor to another, feeling these are common courtesies you would expect. ] (]) 18:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


I'm not that familiar with video game article guidelines, but as far as I understand, body horror is not one of the ] that ] states one should use (and for example, ] also says that the infobox {{tq|should not include thematic genres (like science fiction, horror, etc.)}}). WP:VG/GENRE also states: {{tq|Simply borrowing parts of a genre does not necessarily make the game of that genre, and instead can be said to be using elements of that genre in the lead and gameplay prose.}} Let's say that is the case, how would you mention/integrate "body horror" in an article (as I don't know what common phrasings for this sort of thing are in video game articles; e.g., would you just say something to the effect of "The game uses body horror elements." somewhere in those sections)? To provide a more specific hypothetical, how what would you add it to the article ] (this is one of the two games for which you gave in the deletion discussion; the article is currently in the cat but doesn't cite this specific source or use the term), assuming that you'd consider it a defining characteristic? I'd appreciate your input on this, thanks! ] (]) 22:11, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
:If you really think I'm a bogeyman, than I can certainly leave. But, I'm not sure if you really want that. Like a CEO who fires anyone who disagrees with them, being surrounded by an echo chamber isn't great when it comes to decision making.
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:Still, I get that my sudden AfDs have caused no small amount of consternation. I will keep that in mind and try to discuss first to make sure I'm not missing something. At the very least it would strengthen my argument were I to still do one. ] (]) 21:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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::Right now project wise we're trying to get a lot of Pokemon articles done to figure out an eventual Good Topic for the things, even with the aforementioned sense of caution. No sense in doing one only to get sideswiped by some article we didn't fully research after all and then having to rush to GAN, after all. And given I put together three articles here recently off found sources (Meltan, Pinsir and Kleavor) it's valid to worry.
::How are you feeling about what's out there right now? Should there be any concerns?--] (]) 22:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Pinsir - its notability is unclear to me, though I think Beckett's Guide and IGN are the strongest sources. Even if I randomly saw it, I wouldn't have AfD'd it without asking, especially because it's such an older Pokemon. However, do you think there is another source on their level that isn't a listicle? I'm not convinced the one about "Kawaii Pinsir", while funny, is actually SIGCOV.
:::Meltan - despite relying a lot on content farm sources, I'd probably give it a "weak keep" if it were ever AfD'd. I do feel like it toes the line of ] due to it not having an appearance as a character with a personality, as with some other Poke's such as Butterfree. But the Variety article helps with that by establishing some importance to the game's popularity.
:::P.S. I wasn't aware of the Good Topic push so I can see why it would have angered you. I'll keep that in mind when I see many Pokemon articles being created. ] (]) 22:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Appreciate it. Regarding Kawaii Pinsir, I think that one's just in the body, I agree it's not really SIGCOV so I avoided it for reception. But you do feel the Taiwanese website and '']'' don't work? The latter is basically Japan's Washington Post, complete with me having to buy a subscription just to read it to cite.--] (]) 22:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::With regards to the Taiwanese website, do you mean ZhaiZhai News? Because it seems very tiny...
:::::You'd have to demonstrate the contents of The Mainichi because it could be the make or break one here. It's literally impossible to tell from the blurb. ] (]) 23:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::Fair on ZhaiZhai. As for the Mainichi, that one's a big hard to archive or show because of the paywall. Unlike say the Washington Post or Wired it completely hides most of the article unless you're logged in.--] (]) 23:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Randomly noticed topic via {{TPS}}, but if I may... you can always use the <code>|quote=</code> parameter in a citation, and hopefully people ]. Regarding the paid access to ''Mainichi Shimbun'' more specifically, though, consider using ]. Your local library may provide digital access with just a library card. You'd have to know the date of the issue (assuming it's published in the actual newspaper) to find the article, though. I'm not sure of the newspaper-specific search function capabilities provided. ] (]) 23:17, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


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== Merry Christmas! ==
Hi Zxcvbnm. Let me know what you have in mind as far as "enough to justify a separate standalone article on the topic" here. Seems comparable in scope to that of '']'' from the same developers, currently uncontested. Thanks ] (]) 20:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)


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:For the record, I also think that Tomb Raider IV–VI Remastered is not enough for a standalone article. I'm not the designated article patroller or merger though, so I may decide to take on one article and not another. You can't just point at a newly created, also unsuitable article and say "well they made it so mine must be fine". That's not how it works, see ]. ] (]) 21:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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::Is there a designated article patroller or merger to refer to? Coherency is useful, if you prefer to cast it along the lines of "well they made it so neither must be fine". ] (]) 22:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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:::Well, there is New Page Patrol, but they don't really check for whether a page overlaps with another page. So I think what I meant to say is, "it's best to understand what should and shouldn't be there and why" rather than pointing at some other page that didn't happen to be merged (yet). ] (]) 02:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you for giving me suggestions on reliable sources for reviews! I kept looking for some and I was so desperate to get the page submitted because of the acceptance of the '']'' page and the fact that ''Backyard Baseball 2001'' is getting released on ]. When I didn't find any reliable sources for reviews, I kind of gave up. Well, I'll keep working on my draft page to make sure it's acceptable to Misplaced Pages's standards and thank you for correcting my mistakes. ] (]) 14:15, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

:No problem. I legit want to see articles pass, but if it lacks the right sources, it might just end up deleted, so it's best to make sure everything is up to par beforehand such that it has zero chance of being removed. ] (]) 15:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
::Exactly. ] (]) 19:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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Splitting content of Super Valis IV from Valis IV into its own article

Hey there! How are you doing? Look, i noticed that you were responsible for splitting content of SNES Dracula X into its own article. I want to suggest you splitting content of Super Valis IV that is in Valis IV into its own article, since both the PC Engine and SNES versions are entirely different games, kinda like what happened with Rondo of Blood and SNES Dracula X. I could do it if i knew how to split said content into its own stand-alone article so i figured why not ask for help. Anyways, take care and have a good day! Roberth Martinez (talk) 00:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

@KGRAMR: There isn't enough content for a split here, it basically needs a new article from scratch. I'd suggest simply making a new article if you want it to exist. The reception can technically be split off, but only when there's enough content in the rest of the article to justify doing so. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Body horror video games

Hi, you were the driving force behind keeping Category:Body horror video games a few months ago (see deletion discussion). I recently took on implementing the decided purge and quickly looked at every page in that category (and its subcats), and not a single one mentions the term "body horror" (NB: one says ... the choices made by the player affect the narrative and visual design..., generally along the lines of eldritch or body horror, but the term is not used in the cited sources). This, paired with the fact that afaics, every page in this cat was added to it by the same user (Latiromazzaire, who also created the cat) on the same day (1 June 2024), made me think that the deletion rationale (entirely original research) was mostly accurate, but that's not why I'm writing this message. I'm bringing it up, because while I'm happy to add it to articles if I find a source for it (to avoid removing the category), I'm not sure how I would add the "body horror" aspect to a video game article, even if I found sources supporting body horror as a defining characteristic, and I thought since you're a member of WP:VG (and participated in the deletion discussion), I'd ask you (I hope that's alright).

I'm not that familiar with video game article guidelines, but as far as I understand, body horror is not one of the standard video game genres that WP:VG/GENRE states one should use (and for example, Template:Infobox video game also says that the infobox should not include thematic genres (like science fiction, horror, etc.)). WP:VG/GENRE also states: Simply borrowing parts of a genre does not necessarily make the game of that genre, and instead can be said to be using elements of that genre in the lead and gameplay prose. Let's say that is the case, how would you mention/integrate "body horror" in an article (as I don't know what common phrasings for this sort of thing are in video game articles; e.g., would you just say something to the effect of "The game uses body horror elements." somewhere in those sections)? To provide a more specific hypothetical, how what would you add it to the article Zoochosis (video game) (this is one of the two games for which you gave a source in the deletion discussion; the article is currently in the cat but doesn't cite this specific source or use the term), assuming that you'd consider it a defining characteristic? I'd appreciate your input on this, thanks! Felida (talk) 22:11, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

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