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Driver fails ], having mainly contested low-level domestic championships (state Formula Ford, hillclimbing, national Production Cars) and not achieved notable success in international/higher-level series (British FFord, AUSCAR). Whilst the article appears to be well sourced on the surface, most of the sources direct to a websites' home page rather than an article – a quick internet search for "Brendon Cook racing driver" also brings up routine database sites and Misplaced Pages, therefore a lack of SIGCOV. Furthermore, I have reason to believe that ], the article creator, is the subject of the article and therefore in violation of ]. ] (]) 21:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC) Driver fails ], having mainly contested low-level domestic championships (state Formula Ford, hillclimbing, national Production Cars) and not achieved notable success in international/higher-level series (British FFord, AUSCAR). Whilst the article appears to be well sourced on the surface, most of the sources direct to a websites' home page rather than an article – a quick internet search for "Brendon Cook racing driver" also brings up routine database sites and Misplaced Pages, therefore a lack of SIGCOV. Furthermore, I have reason to believe that ], the article creator, is the subject of the article and therefore in violation of ]. ] (]) 21:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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:In cricket he played one international game in the ] (date of birth the same in cricketarchive.com profile). :In cricket he played one international game in the ] (date of birth the same in cricketarchive.com profile).
:Perhaps the article needs a bit of re-wording to imply that his major achievements were not in motorsport. ] (]) 00:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC) :Perhaps the article needs a bit of re-wording to imply that his major achievements were not in motorsport. ] (]) 00:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::Simply playing international rugby league and cricket matches for minnow teams doesn't meet notability requirements as there is no indication of success. Having kinship with a National Rugby League player is irrelevant as notability is not inherited. Combined with the lack of proper sourcing, it is a ] at best. ] (]) 00:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::In your personal opinion. No body else has raised this since the article came about in 2006. If you have a personal agenda to delete this I'm not going to change your mind. Just by your name MSportWiki you consider yourself the oracle for Motorsport here. So who is anyone to question you. ] (]) 03:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::You're being very presumptive with statements such as "Just by your name MSportWiki you consider yourself the oracle for Motorsport here", which isn't useful to the discussion. Do you have a COI with this article? ] (]) 06:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::I have no COI with the article. ] (]) 05:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::Let's focus on the article and its sourcing, not each other. The topic is whether or not we have sources that can establish this subject's notability. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 05:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:I think he used to go by BJ Cook when he raced. He also entered cars in the Production Car Championship with other drivers in them. He ran the Revolution Racegear store in Sydney for ages. So entrenched in the motorsport scene. But does that mean you need a wiki page? Probably need to re-configure article if going to keep.] (]) 22:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

* '''Delete:''' fails notability guidelines, not to mention the ] concerns of the author. ] (]) 06:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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* '''Delete''': Low level wins or competitions in minor races, I don't see notability. The first chunk of sources is simply race results,the rest are rugby match results. We'd need stories about this person, which I don't see... I don't find any articles about this person either, I'm not showing notability for our purposes. ] (]) 01:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Oaktree b-->
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Brendon Cook

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Driver fails WP:NMOTORSPORT, having mainly contested low-level domestic championships (state Formula Ford, hillclimbing, national Production Cars) and not achieved notable success in international/higher-level series (British FFord, AUSCAR). Whilst the article appears to be well sourced on the surface, most of the sources direct to a websites' home page rather than an article – a quick internet search for "Brendon Cook racing driver" also brings up routine database sites and Misplaced Pages, therefore a lack of SIGCOV. Furthermore, I have reason to believe that User:Bjcook, the article creator, is the subject of the article and therefore in violation of WP:COI. MSportWiki (talk) 21:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

It looks like you haven't read the whole article. You will see a search on "Brendon Cook racing driver" is pretty useless. In the references from other editors, you will see he has gone by the name of BJ Cook, Brendon & Brendan (I assume spelt incorrectly or reverts in spell check).
Looking at other interests, he played Rugby League internationals 1992 Pacific Cup and games in the New Zealand provincial rugby championship with Manawatu which included a game against the British & Irish Lions according the Its Rugby profile. He is also the son of a former NRL player.
In cricket he played one international game in the 2001 Pacifica Cup (date of birth the same in cricketarchive.com profile).
Perhaps the article needs a bit of re-wording to imply that his major achievements were not in motorsport. NigelPorter (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Simply playing international rugby league and cricket matches for minnow teams doesn't meet notability requirements as there is no indication of success. Having kinship with a National Rugby League player is irrelevant as notability is not inherited. Combined with the lack of proper sourcing, it is a self-promotional piece at best. MSportWiki (talk) 00:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
In your personal opinion. No body else has raised this since the article came about in 2006. If you have a personal agenda to delete this I'm not going to change your mind. Just by your name MSportWiki you consider yourself the oracle for Motorsport here. So who is anyone to question you. NigelPorter (talk) 03:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
You're being very presumptive with statements such as "Just by your name MSportWiki you consider yourself the oracle for Motorsport here", which isn't useful to the discussion. Do you have a COI with this article? MSportWiki (talk) 06:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
I have no COI with the article. NigelPorter (talk) 05:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Let's focus on the article and its sourcing, not each other. The topic is whether or not we have sources that can establish this subject's notability. Liz 05:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I think he used to go by BJ Cook when he raced. He also entered cars in the Production Car Championship with other drivers in them. He ran the Revolution Racegear store in Sydney for ages. So entrenched in the motorsport scene. But does that mean you need a wiki page? Probably need to re-configure article if going to keep.Greg Nail (talk) 22:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Hoping comments from previously uninvolved editors will lead to a clearer result, and per Liz let's not personalize comments.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Step Sideways 00:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.