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== Maurya Map and My Map == == Season's Greetings ==


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So basically, one of your sources for the hole map "Archaeology of South Asia", that book doesn't contain any maps with holes but rather a map without holes.
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== Clean up ==
As respecting copyright rules of wiki, I did not directly upload the map here, but rather recreated it.


Hi, could you please help clean up the article ]? At present, it is written with a promotional tone, and much of the content are original research, and lacks ]. ] (]) 13:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Here it is
:I took a look; not my cup of tea... PS: I did several Google searches for Ramayanana and mythology, but found no satisfactory sources. Labelling it only as mythology is tok simple, I think. ] - ] 19:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)


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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | <blockquote>When he took up his hat to go, he gave one long look round the library. Then he turned ... (and Saxon took advantage of this to wag his way in and join the party), and said, "It's a rare privilege, the free entry of a book chamber like this. I'm hoping ... that you are not insensible of it." </blockquote>


(Text on page 17 illustrated in the ] in ]'s ''Mary's Meadow and Other Tales of Fields and Flowers'', illustrated by ], London: G. Bell and Sons, 1915.)
::{{yo|JingJongPascal}} Smith explains the network-model, and illustrates it with several maps. Conningham and Young follow her approach. Good to see that you check sources. regards, ] - ] 17:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
::And the map you've created is given by her as an example of this (mistaken) idea of "uniform territorial control." ] - ] 19:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
:::She mentions it for several empires, but does not mention any places where was autonomous, you have decided these regions either by yourself or by Kulke. Hence they shouldn't be even used as a source ] (]) 05:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
:::I am currently deciding to stop arguments and maintain status quo. As we have more things to article to fix, especially economy ] (]) 05:39, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::::{{yo|JingJongPascal}} status quo is what it will be; it's a deadlock. Regards, ] - ] 06:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::would be quite off topic, but why doesnt this apply to Macedonian Empire or Persian Empire. Many regions in their kingdom were also unhabitatle.
:::::BritishEmpire's Australia was mostly just empty ] (]) 07:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::{{yo|JingJongPascal}} it ''does'' apply, I guess; I've always wondered what Alexander's conquered empire actually was, if he didn't put step in most of it's territories. ] - ] 07:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::It seems like most other ancient Empires are based on their ] territories, even the Persians (Achaemid) did not receive tributes from the Greater Baluchistan Regions.
:::::::Don't you think, it's a little unfair to just have one ancient Empire's map like that, while for others (which should also apply) isn't there? ] (]) 07:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::"Unfair"? As in, it's a pity those articles lack that kind of nuance? ;) ] - ] 10:21, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, i meant, that the network model theory should and shall be applicable to all the ancient empires (this has been mentioned in the source aswell) but i have never seen any such development in Macedon and Persian empires. ] (]) 10:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)


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== A bowl of strawberries for you! ==

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:Strawberries and tea... I noticed your stance on the origins of Hinduism; that was uplifting. ] - ] 06:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yeah, that’s why I was also extremely confused about why you two are fighting. Edasaf was the one who disrupted the Nanda Empire's religious narrative using your reasoning and speculative additions on another page. Edasaf also randomly attacked Chandragupta Maurya's religion. (The jealousy of the Bhim gang and neo-Buddhists toward Hinduism, Brahmanism, or the Vedic tradition is not hidden.)
::The problem is that you attacked the Maurya Empire, which is the only empire Indian Buddhists can somewhat properly relate to. Obviously, Edasaf was going to clash with you. Although the Maurya Empire, before the later years of Ashoka, had nothing to do with asceticism or non-violence. If Chandragupta had been a ascetic, there would have been no Ashoka or his edicts, and no spread of Buddhism. So, be glad that Chandragupta was not an extreme Jain ascetic and chose to take a wife.
::And don’t be overly uplifted by Edasaf's views on Hinduism. He is in your category, just Indian as well, so he will be offended if you attack the Maurya Empire. No true follower of vedic tradition would describe any stage of Hinduism’s evolution using a Christian missionary term. Leftists and communists interested in India will, but they are becoming increasingly irrelevant as the trend of leaders around the world shows. Soon academia will be free of Marxist interpretations. It will take time. You wont be there to see it, i might be. ] (]) 09:42, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
:::I hope for you it will be a world worth living in... Regarding {{tq|The problem is that you attacked the Maurya Empire}}, that's an enlightening comment; the perceptions of Chandragupta seem to be quite different. I found this book, ''Chandragupta Maurya: The creation of a national hero in India''; it seems to delve into the differences of perception you're pointing at. ] - ] 13:00, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Hmmmm. I'll read it. In any case, I would not elevate anyone to hero status—no one is perfect. When even deities are flawed, humans stand no chance. Although there are many who are considered national heroes—Chandragupta, Ashoka, Samudragupta, Kanishka, Shivaji, Prithviraj, Rana Sanga, Veer Savarkar, Bhagat Singh, Mahatma Gandhi, Ambedkar etc.—even Rama, Hanuman, Buddha, Mahavira and Krishna are regarded as national heroes. There are probably countless others. If we want to counter India's national hero narratives, it will take generations. However, I understand why you detest any form of nationalistic tendencies. We can agree to disagree on many things, but I have come to the conclusion that continued hostility is not a solution.
::::So, I apologize to you for the many insults and harsh words I directed toward you. I hope you have a good day. ] (]) 15:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

== A goat for you! ==

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Hey JJ. Hope all is well. Just saw you crossed 100k edits on Wiki. That is wild! Congrats on such a boss milestone.


:{{yo|Fowler&fowler}} well, you'd love to see my "boekenkamer"; at every wall, books from the floor to the ceiling. Regards, ] - ] 07:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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::I absolutely would. ]] 12:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Happy holidays! ==
:{{yo|Kbhatt22}} short time ago I checked ''your'' whereabouts; good to see you're still around. Regards, ] - ] 05:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:: :) I always poke around but Covid really just took a lot away and haven't managed to quite get my head back right. I keep telling myself I want to get back into the mix but just need to start carving out time to read and write. Its still calming to just make my usual tiny edits and watch patterns of users in my unique weird way haha. Always happy to get a chance to send my regards. ] (]) 05:15, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:::{{yo|Kbhatt22}} so, I took a look; utterly confusing articles. ] - ] 05:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
::::{{yo|Joshua Jonathan}} I agree. It read in some aspects like a marketing brochure to begin with but splitting it into two articles seemed like a bizarre stretch the way its written. Couldn't find another Hindu temple that was given such treatment. Had to do a ton of searching around just to understand what the articles were trying to convey. ] (]) 06:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)


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== November 24 ==
As the year draws to a close, I would like to extend my warmest wishes to you for a joyous holiday season. May your Christmas be filled with happiness, peace, and cherished moments with loved ones.


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== Happy Holidays! ==
:Don't bother; the IP-disruption is endless. The picture is nice. ] - ] 05:41, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
::No not for me, Request for ] page. ] (]) 05:46, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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:::Thanks for response. ] (]) 05:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
::See ]. - ] (]) 06:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)


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== Jhana Table : Incomplete? ==


] (]) is wishing you a ] ]! This greeting (and season) promotes ] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Hey Joshua - I added some thoughts to your talk page section, ]. Just thought I'd mention this here just in case you're not following that page and might be interested in following up. I hope you're doing great! ] (]) 19:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


''Spread the cheer by adding {{tls|Xmas5}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''
:Whoops! My bad! Based on a wrong-headed skim of A.K. Warder's Indian Buddhism (p.91), I had made an inference that maybe the first factor you were referencing (''sampasadhana'') was based on Sanskrit parallels while the existing Misplaced Pages entries were using the Pali texts. But, I now see that ''sampasadana'' (without the 'h'; or, in Sanskrit, ''sa.mprasaada'') can be found in 322 different Early Buddhist texts according to Sutta Central (https://suttacentral.net/search?query=in:ebs+sampasada), many -- if not all! -- having to do with the second jhana. So, why do I and other WP contributers not consider ''sampasadana'' to be one of the jhana "factors"? Regrettably, it's been a decade since I've dug into this stuff so I don't recall my own sources. And, of course, my knowledge is decimated. I'll keep digging here though and, when I think I find something worthy of your time, I'll write again. (For what it's worth, I initally started the Talk page thread because I was confused by some of your edits to the table. Let's unravel this thing first though :-) ) If you want to dig together, please let me know :-) Best, ] (]) 21:01, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
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::{{yo|Larry Rosenfeld}} I have to read your comments yet, but thanks for reaching out. ] - ] 05:14, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings

Season's Greetings
Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! The Adoration of the Magi in the Snow (1563) by Pieter Bruegel the Elder is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 17:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Clean up

Hi, could you please help clean up the article Vizhinjam International Seaport Thiruvananthapuram? At present, it is written with a promotional tone, and much of the content are original research, and lacks text-source integrity. 2409:4073:31C:4337:F9C9:66CB:C27C:510E (talk) 13:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

I took a look; not my cup of tea... PS: I did several Google searches for Ramayanana and mythology, but found no satisfactory sources. Labelling it only as mythology is tok simple, I think. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Season's Greetings

When he took up his hat to go, he gave one long look round the library. Then he turned ... (and Saxon took advantage of this to wag his way in and join the party), and said, "It's a rare privilege, the free entry of a book chamber like this. I'm hoping ... that you are not insensible of it."

(Text on page 17 illustrated in the frontispiece in Juliana Horatia Ewing's Mary's Meadow and Other Tales of Fields and Flowers, illustrated by Mary Wheelhouse, London: G. Bell and Sons, 1915.)

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

@Fowler&fowler: well, you'd love to see my "boekenkamer"; at every wall, books from the floor to the ceiling. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
I absolutely would. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Hello, Joshua Jonathan,

As the year draws to a close, I would like to extend my warmest wishes to you for a joyous holiday season. May your Christmas be filled with happiness, peace, and cherished moments with loved ones.

Best wishes, NXcryptotalk

Sending the WikiLove!... Nxcrypto Message 11:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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