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Revision as of 13:36, 9 December 2024 editSadko (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Rollbackers81,683 edits OneClickArchived "Coat of arms" to Talk:Kotromanić dynasty/Archive 1← Previous edit Latest revision as of 13:37, 9 December 2024 edit undoSadko (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Rollbackers81,683 edits OneClickArchived "There is no Bosnian identity in middle ages" to Talk:Kotromanić dynasty/Archive 1Tag: Replaced 
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== There is no Bosnian identity in middle ages ==

Please, I gave primary sources, how picture of his charter where he clearly says that his title was "King of Serbs and Bosnia", and not "King of Bosnians and Bosnia", also I gave source where there is even picture of Ninoslav's charter where it also says that he claims to be Serbian. I'm not nationalistic editor, but these are facts. ] (]) 11:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:"King of the Serbs" referred to the claim to the throne of Serbia. Misplaced Pages is not based on primary sources. The claim that there was no Bosnian identity in the Middle Ages, even if only regional, is laughable. ] (]) 12:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
::Give me ONE PRIMARY SOURCE where there is Bosnian identity in the Middle Ages. I see that you don't know anything about Bosnian ethnic origin in Middle Ages. You also didn't answered on Ninoslav's charter. Also, Tvrtko I's successors had always same tittle "King of Serbs and Bosnia", they never added Bosnian identity or something same, also you haven't answered WHY IS THERE NO KING OF BOSNIANS. ″The claim that there was no Bosnian identity in the Middle Ages, even if only regional, is laughable″ this is literally the stupidest thing in history I ever heard. Constantine Porphyrogenitus in document DAI said that Bosnia was Serbian land. ] (]) 13:11, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:::Misplaced Pages is not based on primary sources. If you want to discuss primary sources, go to Reddit. There is no "King of the Bosnians" because there is "King of Bosnia". "King of the Serbs" referred to Serbia, not Bosnia. That is the consensus among Serbian historians. ] (]) 13:15, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
::::If I can see reliable source claims Kotromanići hat Croatian roots. Check: Ante Cuvalo, The A to Z of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Volume 218 of The A to Z Guide Series, Scarecrow Press, 2010, ISBN 1461671787, pp. . Regards. ] (]) 13:31, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::By your logic, the ruler of Ulm had title "Ruler of Imperial City Ulm", so does that means, the people there are Ulmians, not German? '''YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED ON NINOSLAV'S CHATTER.''' ] (]) 13:49, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::I checked author of that book, he supports Ante Pavelić, no point to discuss about that book, while we also have archaeological facts. ] (]) 13:53, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::Of course the people of Ulm are Ulmians. Will it surprise you to learn that the people of Belgrade are Belgraders? ] (]) 14:07, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Ahh, you were the whole time talking that they are like Ulmians for example? Then my bad. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °) ] (]) 14:19, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Surtsicna}} this editor's sole occupation seems to be denying historical Albanian and Bosnian identities, and Bulgarian history as well. See also ]. On "hot" issues like this, this is highly disruptive and corrosive to community health. If this continues I believe the community may need to progress to sanctions of the ] variety.--] (]) 15:58, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::You are not right. I'm editor on Serbian Misplaced Pages, and I had written many great articles, like Dervan's Serbia, Stefan Dusan, Vlastimir, Stefan Vojislav, Viseslav, Uros I Vukanovic, Constantine Bodin, Ban Kulin, Skanderbeg and now I'm writing Stefan Decanski. The only reason I came on this Misplaced Pages because this makes no sense. ] (]) 16:11, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I will not go on this English Misplaced Pages anymore, so you can be happy. ] (]) 16:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

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