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The result was '''redirect'''‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to ]. The "keep" opinions are unpersuasive in the light of applicable policies and guidelines. Two amount to "did you search for sources", but they do not tell us which, if any, relevant sources such a search would have yielded. The third points to two documents that appear to be ] and therefore not relevant sources in the light of ]. Ultimately, nobody in this AfD is capable of citing ]-compliant sources to support this article's inclusion. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 06:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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This Buffy character doesn't meet ] or ], there is no SIGCOV of him. Everything about the character is all in universe information, to make it worse, it only sites one unreliable source. Merge or Redirect to ]. ] (]) 03:08, 9 December 2024 (UTC) This Buffy character doesn't meet ] or ], there is no SIGCOV of him. Everything about the character is all in universe information, to make it worse, it only sites one unreliable source. Merge or Redirect to ]. ] (]) 03:08, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''' BEFORE not articulated, please search Google Scholar with the additional keyword ]. I see plenty peer reviewed independent RS on a cursory search which can be used to improve the article. ] (]) 06:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC) *'''Keep''' BEFORE not articulated, please search Google Scholar with the additional keyword ]. I see plenty peer reviewed independent RS on a cursory search which can be used to improve the article. ] (]) 06:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' (or merge) to LoC. Fails ] and is just a supporting character. &ndash; ] <sup>]•]</sup> 12:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC) *'''Redirect''' (or merge) to LoC. Fails ] and is just a supporting character. &ndash; ] <sup>]•]</sup> 12:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
*:A supporting character does not mean that they are not notable. There are some supporting characters with GAs ] (]) 17:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' for failing ] and ]. ] (]) 14:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC) *'''Redirect''' for failing ] and ]. ] (]) 14:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
*:Did you do a search, or are you basing things on the current state of the article? Because if you did a search and found nothing, I'd like to help you improve your skills. ] (]) 16:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC) *:Did you do a search, or are you basing things on the current state of the article? Because if you did a search and found nothing, I'd like to help you improve your skills. ] (]) 16:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - I agree that BEFORE was not articulated - I have checked online and also have seen SIGCOV that Jclemens has included.] (]) 15:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC) *'''Keep''' - I agree that BEFORE was not articulated - I have checked online and also have seen SIGCOV that Jclemens has included.] (]) 15:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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*'''Redirect''' or merge, per Sgeureka. What few sources provide only trivial mentions or ], and this doesn't pass ]. ] (]) 19:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:Note that the nominator has {{oldid2|1262720520|left}} the project after being counseled to learn how AfD works and admitting they never did a BEFORE. Right now, there's a lot of people looking at the article and saying "I don't see sources in the article, redirect it" and others saying "Sources are easy to find, I see them." Both of which are fine opinions, but the latter are less policy based, per ] and ]--NOT#PLOT doesn't apply to an improved version of the article, and so is not a reason for deletion. ] (]) 10:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I think secondary sources like "" and "", while remaining close to the plot, have enough characterization and commentary of what the character represents in the series to fullfill the requirements of both ] and ]. The nomination reads a lot like it was considering only the current state of the article, which is ]. At least, as {{u|Jclemens}} already said, there is no ] articluated. ] (]) 11:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' with no prejudice to revising my opinion if someone tries to improves this based on sources Daranios found or others, and pings me. Currently, however this fails ], ] and like. Pure ]. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 01:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
*:Per ] a topic is notable (passes GNG) if sufficient sources ''exist'', and nothing about copying them into the article changes that. Your opinion is not consistent with Misplaced Pages policy & guidelines. ] (]) 01:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect‎ to List of Buffy the Vampire Slayer characters#Supporting characters. The "keep" opinions are unpersuasive in the light of applicable policies and guidelines. Two amount to "did you search for sources", but they do not tell us which, if any, relevant sources such a search would have yielded. The third points to two documents that appear to be WP:SPS and therefore not relevant sources in the light of WP:GNG. Ultimately, nobody in this AfD is capable of citing WP:GNG-compliant sources to support this article's inclusion. Sandstein 06:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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This Buffy character doesn't meet WP:FICTION or WP:GNG, there is no SIGCOV of him. Everything about the character is all in universe information, to make it worse, it only sites one unreliable source. Merge or Redirect to List of Buffy the Vampire Slayer characters. Toby2023 (talk) 03:08, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Note that the nominator has left the project after being counseled to learn how AfD works and admitting they never did a BEFORE. Right now, there's a lot of people looking at the article and saying "I don't see sources in the article, redirect it" and others saying "Sources are easy to find, I see them." Both of which are fine opinions, but the latter are less policy based, per WP:NEXIST and WP:SURMOUNTABLE--NOT#PLOT doesn't apply to an improved version of the article, and so is not a reason for deletion. Jclemens (talk) 10:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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