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| You remember, I texted you earlier about connectivity outside Misplaced Pages. Actually, I need a help and I know that for past three four years, things has not been good between us over content dispute. But, believe me, I want to stay aside from all this conflict and befriend you. But, I am thinking whether it will be safe for me or not to reveal my identity to you. ] (]) 03:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :::No, I cannot do that. - ] (]) 15:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| == Concern Regarding Edits to the "Kamaria Ahir" Article == | |||
| Hello Ratnathasthin, | |||
| I am writing to express my concerns about your recent edits to the ] article. I believe your actions have unjustifiably removed well-sourced, neutral content, and I request clarification and a resolution to this issue. | |||
| '''1.''' '''Sitush/CasteSources Is Not a Policy''' | |||
| You cited ] as the basis for removing content. However, this page is not an official Misplaced Pages policy or guideline. It reflects the views of one editor and cannot override Misplaced Pages's core content policies, including: | |||
| ] (Reliable Sources) | |||
| ] (Neutral Point of View) | |||
| ] | |||
| Decisions about content must be made based on these policies and community consensus, not personal interpretations or unofficial essays. | |||
| '''2. Reliability of Sources from the British Raj Era''' | |||
| The sources you removed, including those from the ], are neutral and verifiable. They document historical facts relevant to the Kamaria Ahir community and are widely used in academic contexts. These sources do not exhibit bias against or favor toward the community, nor are they original research (WP:NOR). | |||
| Removing these sources on the blanket assumption of bias is contrary to ] and does not follow Misplaced Pages's requirement for a balanced representation of topics. | |||
| '''3. Unilateral Removal of Content Violates Misplaced Pages Policy''' | |||
| Your edits removed significant portions of the article without providing adequate policy-backed justification. This undermines the article’s neutrality (WP:NPOV) and comprehensiveness. Unilateral content removal without discussion can be considered disruptive editing (WP:DISRUPT). | |||
| '''Request for Action''' | |||
| I request the following: | |||
| '''''1. Restore the removed content or provide detailed, policy-backed explanations for its removal, otherwise I'll be restoring those edits myself.''''' | |||
| '''''2. Engage in discussion to resolve disagreements before making further edits.''''' | |||
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| -- ] (]) 08:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :{{ping|Nlkyair012}} - Stop using AI to generate such hallucinated responses. Sitush's "essays" are a summary of various consensuses on the caste topic, all of which have been linked there. Raj era sources are unacceptable for caste articles, if you restore content backed by those poor sources, you might risk sanctions under ] and ] both of which you are aware of. - ] (]) 08:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :{{ping|Ratnahastin}} thank you for your response, but I’d like to clarify and address several points you raised. | |||
| ::'''1. On the Use of AI''': The claim that my message is “AI-generated” is both baseless and unhelpful. I am fully capable of formulating my own arguments and conducting the necessary research. Labeling my response in this way undermines the discussion and detracts from the issue at hand. Let's keep the focus on the content, not on baseless assumptions. | |||
| ::'''2. On Sitush’s Essays''': Sitush’s essays, while insightful, are not official Misplaced Pages policies. They summarize opinions and past discussions but should not be treated as definitive guidance. Misplaced Pages operates on the principles of ] and ], which means we should assess sources independently and not dismiss entire categories of them based on an individual’s interpretation. Simply citing these essays does not resolve the issues regarding the reliability of specific sources in question. The consensus on Misplaced Pages evolves, and we should be open to examining sources on their own merits. | |||
| ::'''3. On Raj-Era Sources''': Dismissing all Raj-era sources as "unacceptable" is an oversimplification and does not align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines on ]. Such sources should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, and many are still cited in reputable academic works today. These sources provide valuable historical context and are not inherently biased. A blanket rejection of all Raj-era sources is not a fair or accurate approach and does not reflect how sources should be assessed on Misplaced Pages. | |||
| ::'''4. On ] and ]''': I fully understand the importance of these sanctions and their purpose in preventing disruptive editing, but I do not believe they are warranted here. My edits were made in good faith, following the principles of WP:V and WP:NOR. The use of these sanctions should not be used as a threat to prevent the inclusion of valid, well-sourced material. I aim for neutrality and verifiability in my contributions, as should we all. | |||
| ::'''Request for Constructive Collaboration''': | |||
| ::Instead of relying on dismissive remarks and threats, I propose we take this issue to the article’s talk page to discuss and evaluate sources with other editors. Misplaced Pages thrives when we collaborate and reach a consensus through open and respectful dialogue. If there are concerns about specific sources, we should address them calmly and constructively, examining them on their individual merits. | |||
| ::I am confident we can come to a fair and balanced resolution, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this matter. | |||
| ::Best regards, | |||
| ::---- ] (]) 09:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hello Ratnahastin, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
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Thinking about something
Hi Ratnahastin You remember, I texted you earlier about connectivity outside Misplaced Pages. Actually, I need a help and I know that for past three four years, things has not been good between us over content dispute. But, believe me, I want to stay aside from all this conflict and befriend you. But, I am thinking whether it will be safe for me or not to reveal my identity to you. Adamantine123 (talk) 03:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- If you do not feel comfortable in revealing your identity then you should not do it. - Ratnahastin (talk) 04:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Are you capable of finding exact location of someone using their mobile number. I want this to be done for a lost member of my family. Adamantine123 (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- No, I cannot do that. - Ratnahastin (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Are you capable of finding exact location of someone using their mobile number. I want this to be done for a lost member of my family. Adamantine123 (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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Concern Regarding Edits to the "Kamaria Ahir" Article
Hello Ratnathasthin,
I am writing to express my concerns about your recent edits to the Kamaria Ahir article. I believe your actions have unjustifiably removed well-sourced, neutral content, and I request clarification and a resolution to this issue.
1. Sitush/CasteSources Is Not a Policy
You cited User:Sitush/CasteSources as the basis for removing content. However, this page is not an official Misplaced Pages policy or guideline. It reflects the views of one editor and cannot override Misplaced Pages's core content policies, including:
WP:RS (Reliable Sources)
WP:NPOV (Neutral Point of View)
Decisions about content must be made based on these policies and community consensus, not personal interpretations or unofficial essays.
2. Reliability of Sources from the British Raj Era
The sources you removed, including those from the British Raj era, are neutral and verifiable. They document historical facts relevant to the Kamaria Ahir community and are widely used in academic contexts. These sources do not exhibit bias against or favor toward the community, nor are they original research (WP:NOR).
Removing these sources on the blanket assumption of bias is contrary to WP:RS and does not follow Misplaced Pages's requirement for a balanced representation of topics.
3. Unilateral Removal of Content Violates Misplaced Pages Policy
Your edits removed significant portions of the article without providing adequate policy-backed justification. This undermines the article’s neutrality (WP:NPOV) and comprehensiveness. Unilateral content removal without discussion can be considered disruptive editing (WP:DISRUPT).
Request for Action
I request the following:
1. Restore the removed content or provide detailed, policy-backed explanations for its removal, otherwise I'll be restoring those edits myself.
2. Engage in discussion to resolve disagreements before making further edits.
Warning
Failure to comply with Misplaced Pages’s content policies could lead to administrative intervention. I hope to resolve this collaboratively without escalating the issue further.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response.
Sincerely,
-- Nlkyair012 (talk) 08:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Nlkyair012: - Stop using AI to generate such hallucinated responses. Sitush's "essays" are a summary of various consensuses on the caste topic, all of which have been linked there. Raj era sources are unacceptable for caste articles, if you restore content backed by those poor sources, you might risk sanctions under WP:GSCASTE and WP:ARBIPA both of which you are aware of. - Ratnahastin (talk) 08:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ratnahastin: thank you for your response, but I’d like to clarify and address several points you raised.
- 1. On the Use of AI: The claim that my message is “AI-generated” is both baseless and unhelpful. I am fully capable of formulating my own arguments and conducting the necessary research. Labeling my response in this way undermines the discussion and detracts from the issue at hand. Let's keep the focus on the content, not on baseless assumptions.
- 2. On Sitush’s Essays: Sitush’s essays, while insightful, are not official Misplaced Pages policies. They summarize opinions and past discussions but should not be treated as definitive guidance. Misplaced Pages operates on the principles of WP:V and WP:NPOV, which means we should assess sources independently and not dismiss entire categories of them based on an individual’s interpretation. Simply citing these essays does not resolve the issues regarding the reliability of specific sources in question. The consensus on Misplaced Pages evolves, and we should be open to examining sources on their own merits.
- 3. On Raj-Era Sources: Dismissing all Raj-era sources as "unacceptable" is an oversimplification and does not align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines on WP:RS. Such sources should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, and many are still cited in reputable academic works today. These sources provide valuable historical context and are not inherently biased. A blanket rejection of all Raj-era sources is not a fair or accurate approach and does not reflect how sources should be assessed on Misplaced Pages.
- 4. On WP:GSCASTE and WP:ARBIPA: I fully understand the importance of these sanctions and their purpose in preventing disruptive editing, but I do not believe they are warranted here. My edits were made in good faith, following the principles of WP:V and WP:NOR. The use of these sanctions should not be used as a threat to prevent the inclusion of valid, well-sourced material. I aim for neutrality and verifiability in my contributions, as should we all.
- Request for Constructive Collaboration:
- Instead of relying on dismissive remarks and threats, I propose we take this issue to the article’s talk page to discuss and evaluate sources with other editors. Misplaced Pages thrives when we collaborate and reach a consensus through open and respectful dialogue. If there are concerns about specific sources, we should address them calmly and constructively, examining them on their individual merits.
- I am confident we can come to a fair and balanced resolution, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this matter.
- Best regards,
- ---- Nlkyair012 (talk) 09:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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