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⚫ | nomStatement = I am pleased to see ]'s contributions to the fields of anime, films, music, and racing. This user is diligent at revising pages, reverting edits, checking facts, and citing sources. He is in the counter-vandalism unit and participates in ], ], ], ], and ]. I believe this user would excel at determining what pages should be ], what pages should be ], and whether certain bad actors (such as ] and ]) need to be ] promptly or if they will be allowed time to reform. With that, and especially your interest and knowledge of anime in mind, I would like to nominate this user for administratorship. ] (]) 23:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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⚫ {{user|Areaseven}}&nbsp;– I am pleased to see ]'s contributions to the fields of anime, films, music, and racing. This user is diligent at revising pages, reverting edits, checking facts, and citing sources. He is in the counter-vandalism unit and participates in ], ], ], ], and ]. I believe this user would excel at determining what pages should be ], what pages should be ], and whether certain bad actors (such as ] and ]) need to be ] promptly or if they will be allowed time to reform. With that, and especially your interest and knowledge of anime in mind, I would like to nominate this user for administratorship. ] (]) 23:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:
⚫ :'''1.''' Why are you interested in becoming an administrator?
⚫ ::'''A:''' I've been an active editor since 2006, and aside from creating new articles and improving existing ones with proper references, I have been actively countering vandalism by random IP users or persistent sockpuppets.
⚫ :'''2.''' What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?
⚫ ::'''A:''' I have helped expanded articles of several ] artists such as ], ], ], ], ], and ] by adding discography articles.
⚫ :'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
⚫ ::'''A:''' There are times when other users either post bare references or use incorrect date formats, and I often remind them of their errors.

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=====Oppose=====
#'''Oppose'''. One of the main traits necessary for adminship is an understanding of community norms. This RfA breaks several of them, by having a non-admin nominator, no acceptance from the candidate with standard disclosures, and very short answers to the standard questions that make it difficult for me to get a sense of the candidate (e.g. for Q3, there are no diffs to examples). I do not mind intentional norm-breaking, but it needs to be done with purpose and a recognition of what the norms are being broken. I see no indications of that here, which makes me uncomfortable supporting. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 17:22, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#:Just to chip in though, is there a policy against non-admins nominate a user for adminship? I don’t think if I’ve read it somewhere. Best, ] 17:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#::No, although the nom being an admin is a ''de facto'' expectation. ] ] 17:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#::No, there isn't (and independently from other concerns, that baloney should be stopped right here). I am not an admin and have ], with no fails. ] (]) 18:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#:::And you're not alone in that! See ] of successful non-admin nominators :) ] (] • she/her) 18:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#::::Cool, thx! ] (]) 18:10, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#::Although it's certainly not required that the nominator be an admin, {{tq|strong nominations come from experienced users}} (]). There's also a difference between being nominated by an experienced non-admin and being nominated by an editor with fewer than 2,000 edits. ] (]) 18:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#:::I agree with that wording; just want to be be sure other logic doesn't take hold at RFA :) ] (]) 18:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
# '''<del>Neutral'''</del><del>: At this point, I'm not ready to state that I'm opposed to this nomination, but I echo Sdkb's concerns. ] (]) 17:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)</del> In addition to echoing Sdkb's concerns, I'm raising a few statistical concerns, as well. Looking at , 71.9% of Areaseven's edits do not have edit summaries, which is especially concerning if they're working with vandalism. Further, they've only participated in 10 AfDs with a 71.4% match rate; they also haven't participated in AfD in five years (). I'm not sure if they keep a CSD log, but that would be helpful to see, given that they're potentially interested in deleting pages. ] (]) 17:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#::Adding to my concerns: Not only is the nominating editor not an admin, they have fewer than 2,000 edits. ] (]) 17:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' Disagree that a non-admin nominator is ''per se'' against community norms. However I agree that this particular nomination is, ''pace'', not a good example. And since we are here to evaluate the candidate, I generally think we shouldn't hold their noinator against them (noting, for example, that there are some admins whose nominations I would oppose those grounds if I could; but I don't because it would (rightly) be shot down. Thus, the same must apply here). However, as Sdkb suggests, the candidate's answers to the questions—questions deliberately designed to allow candidates to set out their stall/blow their own trumpets for the only time in 168 hours—are not encouraging. And there's no indication of where they intend to work, except a hand wave towards fighting vandalism. With only 10 AfDs participated in, no RfPPs for over two years, and only 20 AIV reports this year it's actually impossible to identify an area where the tool kit would measurably assist. And finally, when the answer to "what conflicts have you been in in?" is "I point out people's errors for them", that copper-fastens it for me; that's far more likely to increase conflict than lessen it. --]'']''] 17:52, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
# '''Oppose''' Sorry, but per Sdkb and Significa liberdade. It's also difficult to believe a nominator who has been absence for 9 years and only returned to active editing in the last month has a firm grip of community expectations for admins. -- ] (]) 17:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''': The candidate did not state their need for the tool, vandalism is something that every editor encounters everyday and can be easily reverted. What is the need for the tool? What do you need the tool for? Also, their AfD track record is not impressive IMO and I wouldn’t trust someone who doesn’t understand the notability guidelines to be able to delete articles. Best, ] 17:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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#I was tempted to say "screw it" and support, but the answers to questions do not give me faith or say an area where they will work. ] ] 17:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
# I can't support this, but I want to make it clear to the candidate that the total they're likely to receive here doesn't mean that the community doesn't value their work. If they want to be an admin, they could likely reach out to some current admins willing to nominate others, get some advice , and come back here in a few months. The current nomination is unlikely to win people over, for rrasons others have explained, but I don't want them to see this as a crushing rejection of their editing work. ] (] &#124; ]) 17:58, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
#:{{+1}} <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 18:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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Nomination

Areaseven (talk · contribs) – I am pleased to see Areaseven's contributions to the fields of anime, films, music, and racing. This user is diligent at revising pages, reverting edits, checking facts, and citing sources. He is in the counter-vandalism unit and participates in WikiProject Anime and manga, WikiProject Film, WikiProject Automobiles, WikiProject Metal, and WikiProject NASCAR. I believe this user would excel at determining what pages should be protected, what pages should be deleted, and whether certain bad actors (such as vandals and sockpuppets) need to be blocked promptly or if they will be allowed time to reform. With that, and especially your interest and knowledge of anime in mind, I would like to nominate this user for administratorship. Z. Patterson (talk) 23:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)


Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

Questions for the candidate

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1. Why are you interested in becoming an administrator?
A: I've been an active editor since 2006, and aside from creating new articles and improving existing ones with proper references, I have been actively countering vandalism by random IP users or persistent sockpuppets.
2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?
A: I have helped expanded articles of several J-pop artists such as Pink Lady, Chisato Moritaka, Yōko Oginome, Miho Nakayama, Mari Hamada, and Princess Princess by adding discography articles.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: There are times when other users either post bare references or use incorrect date formats, and I often remind them of their errors.

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