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| == draft submission Draft:NNC2215 == | |||
| Thank you for reviewing my draft, , and for your helpful feedback regarding the need for more reliable, independent, and in-depth sources. I appreciate your guidance and want to ensure the draft meets Misplaced Pages’s notability criteria. | |||
| Why does it need secondary source? It is from a reviewed paper. Also, its just a stub for the new drug. I honestly don't understand why is the original review paper not sufficient. ] (]) 11:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| To improve the article, I’d like to ask for your advice on the following: | |||
| :Hi ], it was not myself that did the more recent review but I'll try to explain. Basically it's because that is what the current ] require. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia of "notable" subjects not a general publishing platform, where it has been declined by consensus that being "notable" means having multiple non trivial independent sources in most cases. Being published in Nature is a good start but another couple of sources will help show notability. However at the moment probably all reporting will be based on the single original source so some may still challenge. Ideally subjects like this would have secondary studies to back them up, but it's probably going to be some time for those. Another option until more sources are available is to incorporate it into ] and/or ]. Regards ] (]) 12:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :{{tps}} Hi ]. I'd like to add that primary literature is typically not considered reliable on Misplaced Pages for biomedical information, see ]. This is because primary literature is often exploratory and do not reflect firm findings, and the results have not been, e.g., replicated by other groups. It is frequently the case that primary research findings need to be further interpreted and evaluated to determine, for example, how much stock to put in them, which Misplaced Pages editors are not supposed to do except in very limited cases. Best of luck. ] (] • ]) 12:28, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| - Are there any specific issues with the existing references that I should address (e.g., reliability, depth, or independence)? | |||
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| - What types of sources or examples would best establish the subject’s notability in this case? | |||
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| Thanks for all your great contributions to Misplaced Pages and for all your help. Happy Holidays and New Year!!! ] (]) 19:23, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Your insights would be incredibly helpful as I work on revising the draft. Thank you for your time and assistance! | |||
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| ] (]) 14:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you for your review of my article submission. I appreciate your feedback regarding the ] and the ] of the subject. | |||
| I would like to improve the article and ensure it meets the notability criteria for Misplaced Pages. Could you please guide me on the following: | |||
| What specific types of references would be considered more appropriate or substantial to establish notability? | |||
| Are there any specific sources or kinds of coverage (e.g., academic publications, in-depth media articles) that would be more helpful? | |||
| If additional references are necessary, how can I best demonstrate the subject’s significance in independent, reliable secondary sources? | |||
| For your reference, here is the draft link: ] | |||
| I’m committed to improving the article and would appreciate any further advice you can provide to help me meet the guidelines for resubmission. | |||
| Thank you for your time and assistance. ] (]) 19:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi ], |
:Hi ], all new articles on Misplaced Pages have to show the subject is notable (See ]) which in most cases requires significant coverage (]) in multiple independent (]) reliable sources (]). Your fist source does not appear to mention the subject, the second and third are basic listing for awards that are also just one in many. The stevie awards look more like PR and I note ] was deleted last year as not notable. Further to showing notability the rest of the content also needs to be sourced, most isn't. The content needs to match the sources not editorialise: for instance your article says "SearchUnifyGPT received a silver Stevie® award for technology excellence in the 2024 Stevie® Awards" but the source says Accela won a Gold award for "Best Use of Technology in Customer Service" using SearchUnify, and the source has no other hits for SearchUnify or "technology excellence". Lastly it does not read like an encyclopedic article but company marketing (brief history, product list and look we got some awards), which is not surprising as you have declared a ]. Regards ] (]) 17:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ::@], Thank you for your detailed feedback on the draft. I now better understand the issues regarding notability, sourcing, and tone. I will work on replacing weak sources with independent, in-depth, and reliable references and revising the content to align with Misplaced Pages’s neutrality and encyclopedic standards. | |||
| ::Dear Kylie, | |||
| ::If I have further questions while revising, I hope it’s okay to reach out again. Your guidance has been very helpful! | |||
| ::Thank you for your helpful feedback regarding the draft. I understand that the sources I have used so far are primarily from the subject or closely related to the subject, and I will work on finding more independent, reliable secondary sources that meet Misplaced Pages's notability and significant coverage guidelines. | |||
| ::Best regards, | |||
| ::Regarding the "Courier-Mail Archives" source, I will ensure that I provide the necessary details (date, page, title, etc.) so it can be properly located. | |||
| ::] (]) 18:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::If you have any specific suggestions for where I might find more suitable sources or if there are any types of publications that are particularly valuable for establishing notability, I would greatly appreciate your advice. | |||
| :::] happy to help point you in the right direction.... do note the link on your talk page to the ] as there you can get help from lots of experienced editors and admins. Regards ] (]) 18:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you again for your time and assistance. ] (]) 19:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Article Decline == | |||
| What resources should I use I thought the funeral home one on Joseph A. Burgundy was fine but what else should I use? ] (]) 21:54, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Fake source ] (]) 21:58, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==btw== | |||
| KylieTastic... would you mind leaving me one(as it would be awkward to have self awarded myself...I did not), thanks and Merry Christmas, Ozzie--] (]) 15:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :I wish you had not asked as it makes if feel somewhat awkward, but I had already had the intention to do so as I realised you were on the list so I have just done what I intended to do anyway. Also thank you for thinking to thank others and give some positive feedback (something often missing on here). Happy holidays and on to 2025.... Cheers ] (]) 19:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| What can I do about this if there is only ONE source for the information about this list, and this source is cited on the article. | |||
| I spent days looking for it. | |||
| Or, at least, where could I publish this list? | |||
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| :Hi ], all new articles on Misplaced Pages have to show the subject is notable (See ]) which in most cases requires significant coverage (]) in multiple independent (]) reliable sources (]). So if the only source is google themselves and no one else then it will not meet the guidelines for inclusion on English Misplaced Pages. As for where else you could publish, sorry I have ideas for others sites that would be suitable. Regards ] (]) 18:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Revoke TPA Joeypike2021 == | |||
| I don't really feel like edit warring trying to help with the removal of the disruption, and I had to do it twice. Can you revoke @]'s tpa access because I am tired as heck and I have a flight tomorrow. Thanks in advance. ] (]) 21:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| I now see that @] has done it, and would like to thank him, and also apologize to you for wasting your time. Have a good night.] (]) 21:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Hey @], I would have done if I was an admin but I'm not, no worries anyway your not wasting my time trying to shutdown idiots. Have a good flight and a good holidays. Cheers ] (]) 22:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hello KylieTastic,
Thank you for reviewing my draft, , and for your helpful feedback regarding the need for more reliable, independent, and in-depth sources. I appreciate your guidance and want to ensure the draft meets Misplaced Pages’s notability criteria.
To improve the article, I’d like to ask for your advice on the following:
- Are there any specific issues with the existing references that I should address (e.g., reliability, depth, or independence)?
- What types of sources or examples would best establish the subject’s notability in this case?
Your insights would be incredibly helpful as I work on revising the draft. Thank you for your time and assistance!
Best regards, NitulSharma10 (talk) 14:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi NitulSharma10, all new articles on Misplaced Pages have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Your fist source does not appear to mention the subject, the second and third are basic listing for awards that are also just one in many. The stevie awards look more like PR and I note Stevie Awards was deleted last year as not notable. Further to showing notability the rest of the content also needs to be sourced, most isn't. The content needs to match the sources not editorialise: for instance your article says "SearchUnifyGPT received a silver Stevie® award for technology excellence in the 2024 Stevie® Awards" but the source says Accela won a Gold award for "Best Use of Technology in Customer Service" using SearchUnify, and the source has no other hits for SearchUnify or "technology excellence". Lastly it does not read like an encyclopedic article but company marketing (brief history, product list and look we got some awards), which is not surprising as you have declared a COI. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @KylieTastic, Thank you for your detailed feedback on the draft. I now better understand the issues regarding notability, sourcing, and tone. I will work on replacing weak sources with independent, in-depth, and reliable references and revising the content to align with Misplaced Pages’s neutrality and encyclopedic standards.
- If I have further questions while revising, I hope it’s okay to reach out again. Your guidance has been very helpful!
- Best regards,
- NitulSharma10 (talk) 18:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- NitulSharma10 happy to help point you in the right direction.... do note the link on your talk page to the Misplaced Pages:Teahouse as there you can get help from lots of experienced editors and admins. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)