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*:::If you have a dispute, you may discuss it on the article's ]. ] | ] 23:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | *:::If you have a dispute, you may discuss it on the article's ]. ] | ] 23:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*::Also 15 ton for Sachicasaurus is based on the Sachicasaurus reconstruction from Diocles. ] (]) 21:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | *::Also 15 ton for Sachicasaurus is based on the Sachicasaurus reconstruction from Diocles. ] (]) 21:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Both blocked 48 hours) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Robert de Quincy}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Pipera}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
Pipera has chosen to add grandchildren and great grandchildren to the Robert de Quincy article. I have stated on the article talk page this is unnecessary and off-topic to Robert de Quincy. They have also misrepresented what a source states, which I have also stated on the article talk page. | |||
Even while filling out this report Pipera has reverted me twice, choosing to add back an unused 1790 source to the Sources section, and readding Robert's grandchildren and great grandchildren. This after being told by user:Ealdgyth(17 December 2024) that ]. Honestly, I don't think Pipera is here to build a community encyclopedia. --] (]) 23:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{hat|content user added to the article.--] (]) 00:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)}} | |||
:I have added the followi9ng: | |||
:Robert married Orabilis, daughter of Nes fitz William, Lord of Leuchars. . | |||
:Orabilis was married three times to Morggán, Earl of Mar and Adam of Fife, as stated in the links provided. | |||
:They had: | |||
:Saer de Quincy (died 1219), married Margaret de Beaumont, daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester | |||
:Unknown (daughter) de Quincy married de St Andrew | |||
:Sir Saer I de St Andrew of East Haddon married Matilda de Dyve daughter of Hugh Dyve and Agnes they had issue: | |||
:Robert de St Andrew married Albreda | |||
:James de St Andrew (1228) | |||
:Ralph de St Andrew (1228 - 1278) | |||
:William de St Andrew | |||
:Laurence de St Andrew | |||
:Saer II de St Andrew | |||
:John de St Andrew | |||
:Sir Roger de St Andrew (d before 1249) | |||
:Orabilis and Robert divorced. | |||
:Secondly, he married Eve of Galloway, who was previously married to Walter Barclay. . | |||
:it is alright for the children of Saer de Quincy to be placed on his page here, and not for the children of his sis5ter not to be placed here. | |||
:They are also the grandchildren of the said parents and deserve the right to be placed there as well as the marriages of Roberts first wife and her three husbands as well as the second marriage of Robert her husband. | |||
{{hab}} | |||
:I do not think I have broken any rules by adding this to his article supported by the external links provided. ] (]) 00:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I have posted to the talk page this is also incorrect. ] (]) 00:21, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I am not in an edit war, I posted new information which is educationally correct and was removed without any academic argument it was gone. no pre talk on the talk page concerning what was supplied by the person deleting the information. | |||
:They firstly need to raise and entry and then talk and resolve, ] (]) 00:23, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I am expanding these articles not rolling them back. I have been editing here since at least the year 2001, I was editing entries for the 9/11 project obituaries for the people that passed in 9/11. ] (]) 00:26, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:See | |||
:User talk:Paramandyr: Difference between revisions - Misplaced Pages https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Paramandyr&diff=prev&oldid=1264014635 | |||
:Latest revision as of 23:20, 19 December 2024 edit undo thank | |||
:Paramandyr (talk | contribs) | |||
:removed, stay off my talk page | |||
:Tag: Undo ] (]) 00:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|bb|48 hours}}. ] (]) 00:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Stale; content removed) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Sigma Boy}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2804:14C:BBE7:44CE:B8E5:FEDB:67F5:D84D}} | |||
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
If the IP reverts one more time, could someone please block them and revert their nonsensical edit? (Okay, maybe it's not "nonsensical", but it's incorrect.) ] (]) 02:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|s}}; content removed until a consensus is found ] (]) 13:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 24 hours) == | == ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 24 hours) == | ||
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*{{AN3|b|24 hours}} ] ] 06:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | *{{AN3|b|24 hours}} ] ] 06:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
== ] and ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | == ] and ] reported by ] (Result: Page already protected) == | ||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Warburg effect (oncology)}} <br /> | '''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Warburg effect (oncology)}} <br /> | ||
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I believe both IPs are the same person. The second IP's first edit is a stating {{tq|I'm not Ravidmurthy, but I am the one who has been doing most of the editing here.}}, and after leaving that and another comment proceeded to make the same reversion (#4 above) as the other IP, a little more than 2 hours after #3. {{userlinks|CipherRephic}} was also involved in the edit war, but agreed to stop after being warned and has not broken 3RR. ] | ] 21:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | I believe both IPs are the same person. The second IP's first edit is a stating {{tq|I'm not Ravidmurthy, but I am the one who has been doing most of the editing here.}}, and after leaving that and another comment proceeded to make the same reversion (#4 above) as the other IP, a little more than 2 hours after #3. {{userlinks|CipherRephic}} was also involved in the edit war, but agreed to stop after being warned and has not broken 3RR. ] | ] 21:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*{{AN3|p}} ] (]) 16:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | == ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 2 weeks) == | ||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Marc Benioff}} | '''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Marc Benioff}} | ||
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*{{AN3|b|2 weeks}} ] (]) 16:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | == ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 2 weeks) == | ||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Dune: Part Two}} | '''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Dune: Part Two}} | ||
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User continues edit warring and doesn't discuss edits even after having been requested to, not even explaining their reversions in their edit summary. ] (]) 13:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | User continues edit warring and doesn't discuss edits even after having been requested to, not even explaining their reversions in their edit summary. ] (]) 13:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
:{{u|ChasePlowman2014}} is completely unresponsive. I hope they try editing during the 2 weeks of their block and notice that they have a talk page. ] (]) 16:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b|2 weeks}} ] (]) 16:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**Whilst I cannot dispute ChasePlowman2014's behaviour for edit warring, Happily888 is not completely without fault here. Neither user made any particular effort to engage in discussion over a relatively minor issue, but to expect an immediate response (and then immediately banning said user) on the 25th of December, a day of the year when one can reasonably be expected to be a little busy, is overzealous. I have also left a response to Happily888's message on the ] explaining why ChasePlowman2014 was, arguably, correct to make the initial edit before Happily888 made the first reversion. -- ] <small>(] | ])</small> 21:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:{{u|Jasca Ducato}}, this isn't about the time taken to respond to the noticeboard report. {{u|ChasePlowman2014}} isn't using edit summaries nor talk pages and ignores warnings on their talk page about their behavior. ] (]) 04:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Ambedkar Jayanti}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Callmehelper}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />Frequent edit warring by this user with several editors on an article falling under contentious and general sanctions. Also edit warring on ]. ] (]) 06:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:It's me @]. | |||
:'''Clarification by my side ; ''' | |||
:Firstly I never ever got any Edit Warning before. | |||
:* ''Disputes details'' ; | |||
:# Firstly , I edit ] check history of that page from to | |||
:#''' process of reverting by others and my responses''' | |||
:** then and we had a little discussion on my talk page for this disputes ] then i thought matter would be solved. | |||
:*But other editor revert again by saying no need to improvement and my response of revert and discussion on his talk page ] | |||
:Then instead of healthy discussion this guy response me by saying you have problem with ambedkar article as well so first solve there | |||
:Now I want to clarify that this guy totally misused the healthy discussion and try to show like there is editing warning on me about Ambedkar Main article talk ] but this matter solve 1 month ago by further discussion on ] | |||
:So here in ambedkar page, there is nothing issue about any dispute about that discussion specifically. | |||
:the current discussion on Ambedkar page is going on about my changes that is under ] or not about new fresh topic. check last discussion on talk page ] this discussion is currently going on as there is no response given further by anyone yet. | |||
:so there is nothing like editing warning on me regarding Ambedkar page . | |||
:'''Conclusion''' | |||
:So all my point is whenever I edit, i edit with much responsiblity that this should be based on fact and figures with the valuable citations. I gave explanation of everything what i edit with sources and editing summary. | |||
:Some editor, i don't know what's want? they don't discuss on facts and sources. | |||
:i left a discussion on ] page for further discussion as well but response are so weak in my POV amd also misleading my claim and sources ]. | |||
:I think, i clarify my side well enough. for further discussioni am on. | |||
: | |||
:I hope Administrator will look up this discussion/dispute from NPOV. | |||
:Much Regards. ] (]) 09:56, 26 December 2024 (UTC) |
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User:PaleoFile reported by User:Bowler the Carmine (Result: Warned users)
Page: Giganotosaurus (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: PaleoFile (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: (regarding another now-dormant edit war on a related page)
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: N/A, did not revert and talked directly to editor instead
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Bowler the Carmine | talk 20:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both users have been Warned. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:14, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those users and Mei23448 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) seems continuing edit wars on Monquirasaurus and Sachicasaurus articles.
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- In addition, PaleoFile posted personal attack on talk page of Mei23448.
- Both users does not provide reliable sources, PaleoFile only proposing X post in edit summaries and cite nothing, while Mei23448 also does not cite anything to change. Both users needs to be blocked. (Jens Lallensack seems only trying to revert vandalism, so is not problematic than those two) Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 14:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- 17 tons for Sachicasaurus has been debunked so I changed it and some user cant accept that his favourite animal isnt as big as he wants. Mei23448 (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- If you have a dispute, you may discuss it on the article's talk page. Bowler the Carmine | talk 23:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also 15 ton for Sachicasaurus is based on the Sachicasaurus reconstruction from Diocles. Mei23448 (talk) 21:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- 17 tons for Sachicasaurus has been debunked so I changed it and some user cant accept that his favourite animal isnt as big as he wants. Mei23448 (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Napoleonjosephine2020 reported by User:Kline (Result: Blocked 24 hours)
Page: Lindy Li (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Napoleonjosephine2020 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Zilch.
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
Note: I am not involved in this situation whatsoever, just found this in recent changes. Kline • talk • contribs 05:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- The editor whose revisions I am trying to undo publicly attacked the subject as an "opportunistic grifter". No one who uses such inflammatory language should be editing the page of this subject. This is common sense and journalism 101. He is clearly motivated by animus against her and should not be editing her page. Why is this even in question? Napoleonjosephine2020 (talk) 05:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Napoleonjosephine2020
- "This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule." Also, "When reporting a user here, own behavior will also be scrutinized. Be sure you understand WP:REVERT and the definitions below first." I am not involved, don't complain to me please. Nothing I can do here. Kline • talk • contribs 05:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- You reported me because I tried to stop someone from violating Li's page! Why is the saboteur getting a free pass? He's clearly motivated by animus and admitted as much on her talk page. Napoleonjosephine2020 (talk) 05:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Did you read my comment? You and the other person will have behavior analyzed and decisions will be made accordingly. I'm not singling you out since I have no idea what's happening, you just happened to start the edit war. Kline • talk • contribs 05:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Napoleon, I think this is a manifestly unfair characterization of what occurred on my talk page (not yours). Here’s the exchange, for those curious. EncycloDeterminate (talk) 05:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- You reported me because I tried to stop someone from violating Li's page! Why is the saboteur getting a free pass? He's clearly motivated by animus and admitted as much on her talk page. Napoleonjosephine2020 (talk) 05:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours EvergreenFir (talk) 06:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
User:2601:40:CE00:1590:24F6:A73A:9F20:74C and User:2601:40:CE00:1590:80BC:3313:5A8D:AACE reported by User:Bowler the Carmine (Result: Page already protected)
Page: Warburg effect (oncology) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2601:40:CE00:1590:24F6:A73A:9F20:74C (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 2601:40:CE00:1590:80BC:3313:5A8D:AACE (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: N/A, did not participate in reverts. Warned first IP on their own talk page
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
I believe both IPs are the same person. The second IP's first edit is a talk page comment stating I'm not Ravidmurthy, but I am the one who has been doing most of the editing here.
, and after leaving that and another comment proceeded to make the same reversion (#4 above) as the other IP, a little more than 2 hours after #3. CipherRephic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was also involved in the edit war, but agreed to stop after being warned and has not broken 3RR. Bowler the Carmine | talk 21:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Page protected ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
User:99.98.190.59 reported by User:ZimZalaBim (Result: Blocked 2 weeks)
Page: Marc Benioff (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 99.98.190.59 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 18:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1265024592 by ZimZalaBim (talk)"
- 16:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1264902249 by Augmented Seventh (talk)"
- 03:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1264868382 by ZimZalaBim (talk)"
- 23:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1264776552 by Zachomatic (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 18:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Unconstructive editing on Marc Benioff."
- 18:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 18:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC) "/* Early life/ethnic background */ more"
Comments:
- Blocked – for a period of 2 weeks ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
User:ChasePlowman2014 reported by User:Happily888 (Result: Blocked 2 weeks)
Page: Dune: Part Two (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: ChasePlowman2014 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 12:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC) ""
- 00:19, 25 December 2024 (UTC) ""
- 19:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC) ""
- 12:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 00:19, 25 December 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring."
- 00:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 00:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC) "/* ChasePlowman2014 edit warring */ new section"
Comments:
User continues edit warring and doesn't discuss edits even after having been requested to, not even explaining their reversions in their edit summary. Happily888 (talk) 13:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- ChasePlowman2014 is completely unresponsive. I hope they try editing during the 2 weeks of their block and notice that they have a talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 2 weeks ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Whilst I cannot dispute ChasePlowman2014's behaviour for edit warring, Happily888 is not completely without fault here. Neither user made any particular effort to engage in discussion over a relatively minor issue, but to expect an immediate response (and then immediately banning said user) on the 25th of December, a day of the year when one can reasonably be expected to be a little busy, is overzealous. I have also left a response to Happily888's message on the Dune: Part Two talk page explaining why ChasePlowman2014 was, arguably, correct to make the initial edit before Happily888 made the first reversion. -- JascaDucato (talk | contributions) 21:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Jasca Ducato, this isn't about the time taken to respond to the noticeboard report. ChasePlowman2014 isn't using edit summaries nor talk pages and ignores warnings on their talk page about their behavior. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Whilst I cannot dispute ChasePlowman2014's behaviour for edit warring, Happily888 is not completely without fault here. Neither user made any particular effort to engage in discussion over a relatively minor issue, but to expect an immediate response (and then immediately banning said user) on the 25th of December, a day of the year when one can reasonably be expected to be a little busy, is overzealous. I have also left a response to Happily888's message on the Dune: Part Two talk page explaining why ChasePlowman2014 was, arguably, correct to make the initial edit before Happily888 made the first reversion. -- JascaDucato (talk | contributions) 21:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Callmehelper reported by User:Srijanx22 (Result: )
Page: Ambedkar Jayanti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Callmehelper (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
Frequent edit warring by this user with several editors on an article falling under contentious and general sanctions. Also edit warring on B. R. Ambedkar. Srijanx22 (talk) 06:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's me @Callmehelper.
- Clarification by my side ;
- Firstly I never ever got any Edit Warning before.
- Disputes details ;
- Firstly , I edit Ambedkar Jayanti check history of that page from here to final version
- process of reverting by others and my responses
- 1st Revert My response then again revert and we had a little discussion on my talk page for this disputes see then i thought matter would be solved.
- But other editor revert again by saying no need to improvement see and my response of revert here and discussion on his talk page here
- Then instead of healthy discussion this guy response me by saying you have problem with ambedkar article as well so first solve there see
- Now I want to clarify that this guy totally misused the healthy discussion and try to show like there is editing warning on me about Ambedkar Main article talk here but this matter solve 1 month ago by further discussion on Talk:B. R. Ambedkar#Request_for_Administrator Review_of_Recent_Edits_on_Dr. B.R._Ambedkar's_Page
- So here in ambedkar page, there is nothing issue about any dispute about that discussion specifically.
- the current discussion on Ambedkar page is going on about my changes that is under WP:UNDUE or not about new fresh topic. check last discussion on talk page ] this discussion is currently going on as there is no response given further by anyone yet.
- so there is nothing like editing warning on me regarding Ambedkar page .
- Conclusion
- So all my point is whenever I edit, i edit with much responsiblity that this should be based on fact and figures with the valuable citations. I gave explanation of everything what i edit with sources and editing summary.
- Some editor, i don't know what's want? they don't discuss on facts and sources.
- i left a discussion on Ambedkar Jayanti page for further discussion as well but response are so weak in my POV amd also misleading my claim and sources look.
- I think, i clarify my side well enough. for further discussioni am on.
- I hope Administrator will look up this discussion/dispute from NPOV.
- Much Regards. Callmehelper (talk) 09:56, 26 December 2024 (UTC)