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'''Abdel Fattah Saeed Hussein Khalil El-Sisi'''{{Efn|{{langx|ar|عبد الفتاح سعيد حسين خليل السيسي}}}} (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, ],<ref name="dictator"> '''Abdel Fattah Saeed Hussein Khalil El-Sisi'''{{Efn|{{langx|ar|عبد الفتاح سعيد حسين خليل السيسي}}}} (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, ],<ref name="dictator">
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|{{Cite web |last=Greenwald |first=Glenn |date=2015-03-31 |title=Obama Personally Tells the Egyptian Dictator That U.S. Will Again Send Weapons (and Cash) to His Regime |url=https://theintercept.com/2015/03/31/obama-lifts-freeze-weapons-transfer-egyptian-dictator/ |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=The Intercept |language=en-US}} |{{Cite web |last=Greenwald |first=Glenn |date=2015-03-31 |title=Obama Personally Tells the Egyptian Dictator That U.S. Will Again Send Weapons (and Cash) to His Regime |url=https://theintercept.com/2015/03/31/obama-lifts-freeze-weapons-transfer-egyptian-dictator/ |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=The Intercept |language=en-US}}
|{{Cite web |last=Williams |first=Jennifer |date=2017-04-03 |title=Egypt’s president is a bloodthirsty dictator. Trump thinks he’s done a “fantastic job.” |url=https://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/3/15160358/trump-egypt-abdel-fattah-el-sisi-white-house |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=Vox |language=en-US}}|{{Cite news |date=2020-12-01 |title=Egypt President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi: Ruler with an iron grip |url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19256730 |access-date=2024-11-22 |work=BBC News |language=en-GB}}|{{Cite news |title=Egypt is again under military rule, but Sisi lacks Nasser's appeal |url=https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal |access-date=2024-11-25 |url-access=subscription|work=The Economist |issn=0013-0613|archive-url=https://archive.today/2021.08.26-144020/https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal|archive-date=2021-08-26|url-status=live}}|{{Citation |last=Grewal |first=Sharan |title=Egypt: A Coup against Democracy |date=2023-07-25 |work=Soldiers of Democracy? |pages=136–176 |url=https://academic.oup.com/book/46755/chapter-abstract/414394851?redirectedFrom=fulltext |access-date=2024-11-25 |publisher=Oxford University PressOxford |doi=10.1093/oso/9780192873910.003.0007 |isbn=0-19-287391-1}}|{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}}}</ref> and retired military officer who has been serving as the ] and current ] since 2014.<ref name=":5">{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}</ref> |{{Cite web |last=Williams |first=Jennifer |date=2017-04-03 |title=Egypt’s president is a bloodthirsty dictator. Trump thinks he’s done a “fantastic job.” |url=https://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/3/15160358/trump-egypt-abdel-fattah-el-sisi-white-house |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=Vox |language=en-US}}|{{Cite news |date=2020-12-01 |title=Egypt President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi: Ruler with an iron grip |url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19256730 |access-date=2024-11-22 |work=BBC News |language=en-GB}}|{{Cite news |title=Egypt is again under military rule, but Sisi lacks Nasser's appeal |url=https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal |access-date=2024-11-25 |url-access=subscription|work=The Economist |issn=0013-0613|archive-url=https://archive.today/2021.08.26-144020/https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal|archive-date=2021-08-26|url-status=live}}|{{Citation |last=Grewal |first=Sharan |title=Egypt: A Coup against Democracy |date=2023-07-25 |work=Soldiers of Democracy? |pages=136–176 |url=https://academic.oup.com/book/46755/chapter-abstract/414394851?redirectedFrom=fulltext |access-date=2024-11-25 |publisher=Oxford University PressOxford |doi=10.1093/oso/9780192873910.003.0007 |isbn=0-19-287391-1}}|{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}}}</ref> and retired military officer who has been serving as the ] and current ] since 2014.<ref name=":5">{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}</ref>

(The word dictator been been removed for now while the RfC discussion takes place)


Should Sisi be referred to as a dictator? Some of these options are not mutually exclusive, so more than one can be selected: Should Sisi be referred to as a dictator? Some of these options are not mutually exclusive, so more than one can be selected:
*'''A.''' Yes he should be, in a similar way as described above or found in the the leads of ] ], ], ] *'''A.''' Yes he should be, in a similar way as described above or found in the the leads of ], ], ], ]
*'''B.''' No he should not be, but he should be described as an authoritarian ruler, leader of an authoritarian regime, or leader of a military dictatorship somewhere in the lead, similar to the leads of ], ], ], ] *'''B.''' No he should not be, but he should be described as an authoritarian ruler, leader of an authoritarian regime, or leader of a military dictatorship somewhere in the lead, similar to the leads of ], ], ], ]
*'''C.''' No he should not be, but some variation of "Many observers see Sisi as a dictator" should be included in the lead. *'''C.''' No he should not be, but some variation of "Many observers see Sisi as a dictator" should be included in the lead.
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Talk:Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

The opening to the Abdel Fattah el-Sisi article read:

Abdel Fattah Saeed Hussein Khalil El-Sisi (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, dictator, and retired military officer who has been serving as the sixth and current president of Egypt since 2014.

(The word dictator been been removed for now while the RfC discussion takes place)

Should Sisi be referred to as a dictator? Some of these options are not mutually exclusive, so more than one can be selected:

  • A. Yes he should be, in a similar way as described above or found in the the leads of Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Kim Jong Un, Hafez al Assad, Pinochet
  • B. No he should not be, but he should be described as an authoritarian ruler, leader of an authoritarian regime, or leader of a military dictatorship somewhere in the lead, similar to the leads of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, Mohammed bin Salman, Ilham Aliyev, Isaias Afwerki
  • C. No he should not be, but some variation of "Many observers see Sisi as a dictator" should be included in the lead.
  • D. No he should not be, and he should not be described as an authoritarian ruler. Instead, different arguments regarding his form of rule should be summarized in the body.
  • E. Other (please elaborate)

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  1. Arabic: عبد الفتاح سعيد حسين خليل السيسي
  1. Sources that categorize Sisi as a dictator:
  2. "EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' | Human Rights Watch". 2024-03-15. Retrieved 2024-12-14.
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