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| ⚫ | == Ask for clarification on deleted page of Geert Claessens == | ||
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| ⚫ | I noticed that the page Geert Claessens was deleted. I was still editing it in my sandbox and was in the process of adding external references to the text to underpin what was written. Kindly ask why it was already deleted. Thank you for your clarifications. ] (]) 22:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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| :{{tpw}}The link is ]. ] (]) 22:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :I deleted it because it was blatantly promotional. Looks like you have a ] with the subject. What is your relationship to him?--] (]) 13:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Dear Sir, always ready to take advice on how to write this. I am his younger brother, but wanted clearly to add all the necessary references and have it as factual page. He (Geert) died 2 years ago and i wanted to get a digital trace of him and his carreer as a classical guitar player, no itention to have a promotional page. I also have newspaper articles on him, but they are dating from a while back and so they need to be scaned. How can i include them as a reference ? Thank you for your opinion and time. Kr, Kris. ] (]) 16:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::First, you need to declare your conflict of interest following the procedures in ]. Second, the problem isn't your "intention" but the language you use in drafting a page for your brother; it must be neutral and encyclopedic. Many people who have no experience with Misplaced Pages have trouble drafting new articles that comply with our guidelines. Third, you would be better writing an article in ], not your sandbox, and using ]. You will then get feedback from experienced users. As far as citing newspaper articles, please ask about that and any other things I've mentioned at the ]. As an administrator, my primary job is to prevent disruption, even if unintentional, to Misplaced Pages, not to mentor new editors. Good luck.--] (]) 17:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| '''Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages in 2024! Wishing you a Very happy and productive 2025! ♦ ] (]) 17:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Hey, Joeypike2021 you blocked but they are using their talk page inappropriately afterwards so may need a talk page revoke. Cheers ] (]) 21:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Happy New Year, Bbb23! In 2024, other editors thanked you using the ] on the English Misplaced Pages. This made you the '''#8 most thanked Wikipedian in 2024'''. Congratulations and, well, ''thank you'' for all that you do for Misplaced Pages. Here's to 2025! ] (]) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :Umm, I had no idea. I have notifications for Thanks turned off globally. I should also add that I'm surprised. I ''do'' appreciate your thanks, though, and a Happy New Year to you, too. Be safe tonight.--] (]) 19:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| '''Hello Bbb23, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this ]. Spread the ] by wishing another user a ] and a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /> | |||
| ::It only stops you from ''receiving'' thanks; it doesn't stop people from thanking you. But they won't know that you didn't see the thanks. See . --] 🦌 (]) 01:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) 23:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::I know that. I just don't think of myself as an editor who would get thanked a lot. I ''do'' have one question: is there any way to look now and see what edit an editor thanked me for? I don't see any way to do that on the thank log. I'm just curious.--] (]) 01:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::It's not in the thank log; it's only in the "in-tray" or "TV set" icon at the top (to the right of the bell icon). But that only shows the 25 most recent events that come within that icon; most will be thanks, but some will be other actions - such as when you ] somebody. So for myself, the list shows 25 events in the last 6 days of which 13 are mentions and 12 are where somebody else thanked me. If I click on one of those 12, I can see which edit (or loggable action, such as a block, delete or protection) that I was being thanked for, but once they are pushed out of the 25 by more recent events, the information is no longer retrievable. So checking out 1150 thanks is a long way from being possible. --] 🦌 (]) 02:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Heh, I wasn't going to check all 1150 entries, god help me, just a few out of curiosity, but it looks to me like even the recent thanks listed in the log don't show up when I click on the TV set icon; maybe that works only if you have thanks notifications turned on.--] (]) 02:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Qubetics == | |||
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| Would you mind draftifying or moving the contents of the recently deleted ] article into my userspace? I'm not the original author, but started looking into it a bit when I encountered it on NPP. It doesn't seem to have notability yet, but I'd like to have it on my list to keep an eye on for the future. Thanks.] (]) 02:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Socking at Moorgate tube crash == | |||
| :{{done}} - see ]. I retained the infobox and the refs but took out the promotional language.--] (]) 15:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Lawrence bishnoi == | |||
| At I see only one user - {{useranon|81.111.22.107}} - expunging the term "motorman", but one revert by yourself with the edit summary "revert sock". Who are they a sockpuppet of? --] 🦌 (]) 09:49, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :It says who in the block log.--] (]) 14:55, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Can I use the official chargesheets filed by ] against the Bishnoi for reference? like my sandbox ] (]) 14:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Possible sock? == | |||
| ⚫ | :The link to the report doesn't work.--] (]) 15:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ::and other reference mentioned along? ] (]) 15:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Because 80% of Lawrence Bishnoi's references are like this. ] (]) 15:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::The other ref works, but you can't add material based on a report without providing a working link to the report.--] (]) 15:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::okay thank you for your guidance i will keep that in mind ] (]) 15:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| =="Best know for" IP== | |||
| Not sure if this would be prefer to have a new SPI page created or not, but I've stumbled across the account '' which (at least to me) appears to be similarly-named to the blocked account ''. Along with that, both have a similar, "I am ______ and joined Misplaced Pages on _______" opening intro, Harold's on the userpage and Jake's on their talk page. It also that Harold attempted editing Untamed1910's talk page, which Jake has previously edited. | |||
| Does {{noping|62.3.99.94}} look like the BKFIP, or is is just me? Looking at their edit summaries ("biased and really barely intelligible", "removed pointless waffling", "first paragraph was basically garbage, unintelligible due to poor language skills on the part of whoever added the text, and poor reading skills by everyone who edited it subsequently", etc) it certainly fits their ''modus operandi''. - ] (]) 16:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | :A bit, yes, but not enough for me to block. What do you think, {{U|Favonian}}?--] (]) 17:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ::Oh yes, that's him. Blocked for 3 days. Expect a fulminating unblock request, followed by a revocation talk page privileges. Happy New Year! ] (]) 17:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | :::The expert has spoken! --] (]) 17:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| :::Many thanks to you both. I was going to note that a few of their edits are removing things along the lines of 'best known for' phrasing, including , , and , but that seems a bit superfluous now! - ] (]) 17:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Joaquim Nero == | |||
| I also decided to report it here rather than make an SPI page as I see Jake's block is for sockpuppetry, but from what I'm seeing, it's not to avoid a block on another account (unless I'm missing something). Thanks. ] (]) 10:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Hello Bbb23, I have noticed you often resolve things when I post in ] so I thought I would tell you directly here. Please tell me if that is not okay and I won't do it again. I noticed this user ] after a page he created ] was added to ]. It looks like many articles he has created have problems. Could you take a look please? ]] 18:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Also looking a bit more into it, there appears to be both a '' and '' account. Also not 100% sure here, but looks a bit similar to ... so maybe it is a possible block evasion case altogether? Unless my mind is playing tricks on me at 5am, lol. ] (]) 10:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Pardon my barging in: just noticed the link from ] here, and am happy to point out ], closed a few minutes ago. ] (]) 19:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::If you haven't already, you should look at that tortured conversation I had with Jake on his Talk page. I've blocked Harold as a sock of Jake, but I see no point in blocking the other accounts, even if they're obvious socks, who haven't edited in a while - that would include the two Knowledgeseeker accounts. However, if you're interested in finding more, you could file an SPI and request a CU. It's highly unlikely I'll find them on my own because I don't pay any attention to the articles they edit. Feel free to come here, though, if you see a new one. Thanks! --] (]) 15:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hi Wikishovel, thank you for responding. Looks like I was right about the account. ]] 20:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Is all caps OK? == | |||
| ==Notice of noticeboard discussion== | |||
| ] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an action which you performed. The thread is ]. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:XRV-notice--> ] (]) 16:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ⚫ | == Ask for clarification on deleted page of Geert Claessens == | ||
| ⚫ | Dear Sir, | ||
| ⚫ | I noticed that the page Geert Claessens was deleted. I was still editing it in my sandbox and was in the process of adding external references to the text to underpin what was written. Kindly ask why it was already deleted. Thank you for your clarifications. ] (]) 22:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 20:59, 3 January 2025
Ask for clarification on deleted page of Geert Claessens
Dear Sir,
I noticed that the page Geert Claessens was deleted. I was still editing it in my sandbox and was in the process of adding external references to the text to underpin what was written. Kindly ask why it was already deleted. Thank you for your clarifications. Claessenskris (talk) 22:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher)The link is User:Claessenskris/sandbox . -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I deleted it because it was blatantly promotional. Looks like you have a conflict of interest with the subject. What is your relationship to him?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Sir, always ready to take advice on how to write this. I am his younger brother, but wanted clearly to add all the necessary references and have it as factual page. He (Geert) died 2 years ago and i wanted to get a digital trace of him and his carreer as a classical guitar player, no itention to have a promotional page. I also have newspaper articles on him, but they are dating from a while back and so they need to be scaned. How can i include them as a reference ? Thank you for your opinion and time. Kr, Kris. Claessenskris (talk) 16:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- First, you need to declare your conflict of interest following the procedures in WP:COI. Second, the problem isn't your "intention" but the language you use in drafting a page for your brother; it must be neutral and encyclopedic. Many people who have no experience with Misplaced Pages have trouble drafting new articles that comply with our guidelines. Third, you would be better writing an article in draft space, not your sandbox, and using WP:AFC. You will then get feedback from experienced users. As far as citing newspaper articles, please ask about that and any other things I've mentioned at the WP:Teahouse. As an administrator, my primary job is to prevent disruption, even if unintentional, to Misplaced Pages, not to mentor new editors. Good luck.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Sir, always ready to take advice on how to write this. I am his younger brother, but wanted clearly to add all the necessary references and have it as factual page. He (Geert) died 2 years ago and i wanted to get a digital trace of him and his carreer as a classical guitar player, no itention to have a promotional page. I also have newspaper articles on him, but they are dating from a while back and so they need to be scaned. How can i include them as a reference ? Thank you for your opinion and time. Kr, Kris. Claessenskris (talk) 16:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Happy New Year, Bbb23! In 2024, other editors thanked you 1150 times using the thanks tool on the English Misplaced Pages. This made you the #8 most thanked Wikipedian in 2024. Congratulations and, well, thank you for all that you do for Misplaced Pages. Here's to 2025! Mz7 (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
- Umm, I had no idea. I have notifications for Thanks turned off globally. I should also add that I'm surprised. I do appreciate your thanks, though, and a Happy New Year to you, too. Be safe tonight.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- It only stops you from receiving thanks; it doesn't stop people from thanking you. But they won't know that you didn't see the thanks. See thanks log. --Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 01:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I know that. I just don't think of myself as an editor who would get thanked a lot. I do have one question: is there any way to look now and see what edit an editor thanked me for? I don't see any way to do that on the thank log. I'm just curious.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's not in the thank log; it's only in the "in-tray" or "TV set" icon at the top (to the right of the bell icon). But that only shows the 25 most recent events that come within that icon; most will be thanks, but some will be other actions - such as when you WP:MENTION somebody. So for myself, the list shows 25 events in the last 6 days of which 13 are mentions and 12 are where somebody else thanked me. If I click on one of those 12, I can see which edit (or loggable action, such as a block, delete or protection) that I was being thanked for, but once they are pushed out of the 25 by more recent events, the information is no longer retrievable. So checking out 1150 thanks is a long way from being possible. --Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 02:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Heh, I wasn't going to check all 1150 entries, god help me, just a few out of curiosity, but it looks to me like even the recent thanks listed in the log don't show up when I click on the TV set icon; maybe that works only if you have thanks notifications turned on.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's not in the thank log; it's only in the "in-tray" or "TV set" icon at the top (to the right of the bell icon). But that only shows the 25 most recent events that come within that icon; most will be thanks, but some will be other actions - such as when you WP:MENTION somebody. So for myself, the list shows 25 events in the last 6 days of which 13 are mentions and 12 are where somebody else thanked me. If I click on one of those 12, I can see which edit (or loggable action, such as a block, delete or protection) that I was being thanked for, but once they are pushed out of the 25 by more recent events, the information is no longer retrievable. So checking out 1150 thanks is a long way from being possible. --Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 02:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I know that. I just don't think of myself as an editor who would get thanked a lot. I do have one question: is there any way to look now and see what edit an editor thanked me for? I don't see any way to do that on the thank log. I'm just curious.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- It only stops you from receiving thanks; it doesn't stop people from thanking you. But they won't know that you didn't see the thanks. See thanks log. --Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 01:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Qubetics
Would you mind draftifying or moving the contents of the recently deleted Qubetics article into my userspace? I'm not the original author, but started looking into it a bit when I encountered it on NPP. It doesn't seem to have notability yet, but I'd like to have it on my list to keep an eye on for the future. Thanks. -- Fyrael (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Done - see Draft:Qubetics. I retained the infobox and the refs but took out the promotional language.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Lawrence bishnoi
Can I use the official chargesheets filed by NIA against the Bishnoi for reference? like my sandbox Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 14:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- The link to the report doesn't work.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- and other reference mentioned along? Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 15:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Because 80% of Lawrence Bishnoi's references are like this. Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 15:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- The other ref works, but you can't add material based on a report without providing a working link to the report.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- okay thank you for your guidance i will keep that in mind Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 15:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- The other ref works, but you can't add material based on a report without providing a working link to the report.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
"Best know for" IP
Does 62.3.99.94 look like the BKFIP, or is is just me? Looking at their edit summaries ("biased and really barely intelligible", "removed pointless waffling", "first paragraph was basically garbage, unintelligible due to poor language skills on the part of whoever added the text, and poor reading skills by everyone who edited it subsequently", etc) it certainly fits their modus operandi. - SchroCat (talk) 16:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- A bit, yes, but not enough for me to block. What do you think, Favonian?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh yes, that's him. Blocked for 3 days. Expect a fulminating unblock request, followed by a revocation talk page privileges. Happy New Year! Favonian (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- The expert has spoken! --Bbb23 (talk) 17:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Many thanks to you both. I was going to note that a few of their edits are removing things along the lines of 'best known for' phrasing, including this, this, this and this, but that seems a bit superfluous now! - SchroCat (talk) 17:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh yes, that's him. Blocked for 3 days. Expect a fulminating unblock request, followed by a revocation talk page privileges. Happy New Year! Favonian (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Joaquim Nero
Hello Bbb23, I have noticed you often resolve things when I post in Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard so I thought I would tell you directly here. Please tell me if that is not okay and I won't do it again. I noticed this user User:Joaquim Nero after a page he created Deebs Magazine was added to Category:Articles with a promotional tone from January 2025. It looks like many articles he has created have problems. Could you take a look please? 🄻🄰 18:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pardon my barging in: just noticed the link from Deebs Magazine here, and am happy to point out Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/3ydepartment, closed a few minutes ago. Wikishovel (talk) 19:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Wikishovel, thank you for responding. Looks like I was right about the account. 🄻🄰 20:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)