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| '''Forbes House''', ] in the ] was built in 1996 for Sean O'Brien who founded ]. It replaced an earlier house built in 1936 which in turn had replaced the original ] House. It was once the home of ].<ref name=Sampson >{{Cite journal |last=Sampson |first=June |date=7 February 1998 |title=The Petersham wedding which produced a future Queen of England |url=https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/6517247.june-sampson-the-petersham-wedding-which-produced-a-future-queen-of-england/ |journal=News Shopper |via=News Shopper}}</ref> | '''Forbes House''', ] in the ] was built in 1996 for Sean O'Brien who founded ]. It replaced an earlier house built in 1936 which in turn had replaced the original ] House. It was once the home of ].<ref name=Sampson >{{Cite journal |last=Sampson |first=June |date=7 February 1998 |title=The Petersham wedding which produced a future Queen of England |url=https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/6517247.june-sampson-the-petersham-wedding-which-produced-a-future-queen-of-england/ |journal=] |via=News Shopper}}</ref> | ||
| == Description == | == Description == | ||
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| The present Forbes House overlooking Ham Common is a brick-built mansion using two colours of brick, reconstituted stone, and wide timber window surrounds |
The present Forbes House overlooking Ham Common is a brick-built mansion in the ] using two colours of brick, reconstituted stone, and wide timber window surrounds. It was designed by the architect ]. The front door case was carved by Dick Reid.<ref name=Bicknell >{{Cite web |title=Forbes House, London |url=http://www.julianbicknell.co.uk/view-forbeshouse_london.php |website=Julian Bicknell Associates}}</ref><ref name=Country >{{Cite journal |date=20 May 2004 |title=Forbes House, Ham Common, Richmond |journal=Country Life |pages=169}}</ref> | ||
| == History == | == History == | ||
| ===The first house=== | |||
| In the early 19C the house was occupied by Colonel Gordon Elliot Forbes (1783–1871), the son of ] (1738–1828). | |||
| In the 1770s much of the land round Ham Common was owned by Thomas Masson. He sold the Ham Common Estate in 1790 to Fountain North and it remained in the North family until 1862 when it was bought by Lady Meade. The house was occupied by Otto Bayer in 1780 and then by the ], Earl of Edgcumbe, ], ].<ref name=Pritchard >{{Cite journal |last=Pritchard |first=Evelyn |date=1993 |title=A brief history of Gordon, Forbes and Langham Houses on Ham Common |journal=Richmond Local History |volume=14 |pages=20-25}}</ref> | |||
| ⚫ | In 1872 the house was bought by Harry Warren Scott (1833–1889) the son of ], after his marriage in 1870. His wife ] (1832–1918) had a daughter, ] (1862–1938), from her first marriage who in 1881 married Claude George Bowes-Lyon, Lord Glamis, at |
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| From 1828 the house was occupied by Colonel Gordon Elliot Forbes (1783–1870), the 3rd son of ] general ] (1738–1828). His wife Eliza died in March 1836 and three of his youngest children died on the 19 November 1836 of ]. There is a memorial in ] but they are buried in the family vault in ]. He died 9 June 1870. | |||
| Henry Warren Scott died on 23 August 1889 at Forbes House and is buried in St Andrews church.<ref>{{Cite news|date=26 August 1889|title=THE LATE MR HARRY SCOTT OF BALGAY|work=Dundee Courier|url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/R3213032470/BNCN?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-BNCN&xid=e600cfc6|access-date=13 July 2021|via=British Library Newspapers}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|date=27 August 1889|title=Deaths|page=1|work=Times|url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/CS17223963/TTDA?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-TTDA&xid=c33f21b7|access-date=13 July 2021|via=The Times Digital Archive}}</ref> The house was then occupied by William Baird (1848-1918); his widow died there in 1932.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Kingsley |first=Nicholas |title=Baird, William (1848-1918). |url=https://landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2018/04/328-baird-of-lochwood-house-cambusdoon.html |website=Landed Families}}</ref> | |||
| ⚫ | In 1872 the house was bought by Harry Warren Scott (1833–1889) the son of ], after his marriage in 1870. His wife ] (1832–1918) had a daughter, ] (1862–1938), from her first marriage who in 1881 married Claude George Bowes-Lyon, Lord Glamis, at St Peter's Church, Petersham. They went on to have ten children. Their first child, Violet Hyacinth Bowes-Lyon (1882–1893), died of ] at Forbes House; she is buried in St Andrew's churchyard. Their youngest daughter, ] (1900–2002), the late Queen Mother, used to come and stay with her grandmother at Forbes House.<ref>{{Cite web |date=28 April 2017 |title=Read a book about the history of Ham |url=https://60at60challenges.blogspot.com/2017/04/task-54-read-book-about-history-of-ham.html}}</ref><ref name="Sampson" /><ref>{{cite book|author=Hugo Vickers| author-link = Hugo Vickers|title=Elizabeth: The Queen Mother| publisher=Arrow Books/]|year= 2006|isbn=978-0-09-947662-7|page =7}}</ref> | ||
| ⚫ | Mrs Winifred Buckley purchased the Georgian House in 1935 |
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| Henry Warren Scott died on 23 August 1889 at Forbes House and is buried in St Andrew's church;<ref>{{Cite news|date=26 August 1889|title=The late Mr Harry Scott of Balgay|work=]|url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/R3213032470/BNCN?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-BNCN&xid=e600cfc6|access-date=13 July 2021|via=British Library Newspapers}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|date=27 August 1889|title=Deaths|page=1|work=]|url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/CS17223963/TTDA?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-TTDA&xid=c33f21b7|access-date=13 July 2021|via=The Times Digital Archive}}</ref> his stepdaughters Violet Cavendish-Bentinck and Hyacinth Mary Jessup commissioned Sir ] to create the memorial east window in St Andrew's church.<ref name=Greenwood>{{Cite book |last=Greenwood |first=Silvia |title=History of St Andrew's Ham Common |year=1982 |location=Ham Library}}</ref> Hyacinth died at Forbes House in 1916 and is buried at St Andrew's church.<ref>{{Cite news |date=12 December 1916 |title=Deaths |url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/CS17237900/TTDA?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-TTDA&xid=a8866aa9 |work=] |via=The Times Digital Archive}}</ref> Eleanor Countess of Suffolk and Berkshire, the widow of ], died on 31 October 1928 at Forbes House.<ref>{{Cite news |date=3 November 1928 |title=Deaths |url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/CS17244003/TTDA?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-TTDA&xid=4ab8bcee |work=] |pages=1 |via=The Times Digital Archive}}</ref> The house was then occupied by Caroline Muriel Baird (1861–1932), the widow of William Baird (1848–1918), who died there; she had her portrait painted as a child by ].<ref>{{Cite web |last=Kingsley |first=Nicholas |title=Baird, William (1848-1918). |url=https://landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2018/04/328-baird-of-lochwood-house-cambusdoon.html |website=Landed Families}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Caroline Muriel Callander, later Mrs Baird (c 1861–1932) |url=https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/5562 |website=National Galleries Scotland}}</ref> | |||
| ⚫ | The house appeared in the film ] (1968) as the Chelsea home of Polly (Suzy Kendall).<ref>{{Cite web |title=Up the Junction |url=https://londononlocation.co.uk/films/up-the-junction/ |website=London on Location}}</ref> | ||
| ===The second house=== | |||
| ⚫ | Mrs Winifred Buckley purchased the Georgian House in 1935.<ref>{{Cite news |date=25 July 1935 |title=Court Circular |url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/CS285682937/TTDA?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-TTDA&xid=0e15cf95 |work=] |pages=17 |via=he Times Digital Archive}}</ref> It was demolished, to be replaced in 1936 with a new house designed by ] in the Queen Anne style;<ref>{{Cite journal |date=10 September 1938 |title=In the Georgian Manner. Forbes House, Ham Common |journal=] |volume=LXXXIV |issue=2173 |pages=44}}</ref> she died in 1937.<ref>{{Cite news |date=19 April 1937 |title=Deaths |url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/CS17248403/TTDA?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-TTDA&xid=6bcd198f |work=] |pages=1 |via=The Times Digital Archive}}</ref> The house was then owned by Sir Francis Peek from 1938 until 1946.<ref>{{Cite news |date=29 June 1938 |title=Mind Changed in Five Days |url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/JF3237714430/BNCN?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-BNCN&xid=9e96410f |work=Evening Telegraph |pages=4 |via=British Library Newspapers}}</ref> | ||
| Lady Grace Dance (1877–1960), the widow of Sir ] (1857–1932), lived here in the 1940s.<ref>{{Cite news |date=8 November 1947 |title=Ham & Petersham |work=Richmond Herald |pages=6}}</ref> George Dance, a dramatist and theatrical manager, was the owner and manager of ] from 1902.<ref>{{Cite news |date=27 December 1902 |title=The Theatre changes hands |work=Richmond Herald |pages=6}}</ref> In St Andrew's church there is a memorial stained-glass window by Warren Wilson to George Dance and his son Eric who died in a prison camp during the ].<ref>{{Cite news |date=7 May 1949 |title=Memorial Window Dedicated |work=Richmond Herald |pages=11}}</ref> Lady Dance planned to sell the house in November 1949 to the ] to use as offices but the sale was refused by ] who wanted it for an old people's home. The Council were offering less than the £26,000 that Lady Dance had paid for the house.<ref>{{Cite news |date=18 February 1950 |title=Future of Forbes House |work=Richmond Herald |pages=12}}</ref> In February 1950 Surrey Council's Town and County Planning Committee approved the plans of the County Welfare Committee to turn Forbes House into a home for the aged.<ref>{{Cite news |date=25 February 1950 |title=Richmond |work=Richmond Herald |pages=11}}</ref> In 1958 Craig House was built in the grounds facing Craig Road. The Friends of Forbes House and Craig House held an annual garden party.<ref>{{Cite news |date=6 June 1969 |title=Garden Party for Old Folks |work=Richmond & Twickenham Times |pages=3}}</ref> The house was used as an old people's home until this closed in 1992.<ref>{{Cite news |date=6 June 1958 |title=Court Circular |url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/CS235887302/TTDA?u=rtl_ttda&sid=bookmark-TTDA&xid=9581297a |work=] |pages=14 |via=The Times Digital Archive}}</ref><ref name="Sampson" /> | |||
| ⚫ | The house appeared in the film '']'' (1968) as the ] home of Polly (]).<ref>{{Cite web |title=Up the Junction |url=https://londononlocation.co.uk/films/up-the-junction/ |website=London on Location}}</ref> | ||
| ===The third house=== | |||
| The 1936 house was then bought by ] who demolished it in October 1992 before selling the site.<ref name=Country /> A new house, designed in the Queen Anne style by Julian Bicknell for Sean O'Brien who founded ], was completed in 1996.<ref name=Bicknell /> | |||
| == References == | == References == | ||
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Latest revision as of 06:24, 2 January 2025
Forbes House, Ham Common in the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames was built in 1996 for Sean O'Brien who founded Telstar Records. It replaced an earlier house built in 1936 which in turn had replaced the original Georgian House. It was once the home of Claude Bowes-Lyon, Lord Glamis.
Description
The present Forbes House overlooking Ham Common is a brick-built mansion in the Queen Anne style using two colours of brick, reconstituted stone, and wide timber window surrounds. It was designed by the architect Julian Bicknell. The front door case was carved by Dick Reid.
History
The first house
In the 1770s much of the land round Ham Common was owned by Thomas Masson. He sold the Ham Common Estate in 1790 to Fountain North and it remained in the North family until 1862 when it was bought by Lady Meade. The house was occupied by Otto Bayer in 1780 and then by the Earl of Haddington, Earl of Edgcumbe, Viscount Torrington, Sir Nathaniel Peacocke.
From 1828 the house was occupied by Colonel Gordon Elliot Forbes (1783–1870), the 3rd son of British Army general Gordon Forbes (1738–1828). His wife Eliza died in March 1836 and three of his youngest children died on the 19 November 1836 of measles. There is a memorial in St Andrew's church but they are buried in the family vault in St Peter's Church, Petersham. He died 9 June 1870.
In 1872 the house was bought by Harry Warren Scott (1833–1889) the son of Sir William Scott, 6th Baronet, of Ancrum, after his marriage in 1870. His wife Louisa Scott (1832–1918) had a daughter, Cecilia Nina (1862–1938), from her first marriage who in 1881 married Claude George Bowes-Lyon, Lord Glamis, at St Peter's Church, Petersham. They went on to have ten children. Their first child, Violet Hyacinth Bowes-Lyon (1882–1893), died of diphtheria at Forbes House; she is buried in St Andrew's churchyard. Their youngest daughter, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (1900–2002), the late Queen Mother, used to come and stay with her grandmother at Forbes House.
Henry Warren Scott died on 23 August 1889 at Forbes House and is buried in St Andrew's church; his stepdaughters Violet Cavendish-Bentinck and Hyacinth Mary Jessup commissioned Sir Ninian Comper to create the memorial east window in St Andrew's church. Hyacinth died at Forbes House in 1916 and is buried at St Andrew's church. Eleanor Countess of Suffolk and Berkshire, the widow of Henry Howard, 18th Earl of Suffolk, died on 31 October 1928 at Forbes House. The house was then occupied by Caroline Muriel Baird (1861–1932), the widow of William Baird (1848–1918), who died there; she had her portrait painted as a child by George Frederic Watts.
The second house
Mrs Winifred Buckley purchased the Georgian House in 1935. It was demolished, to be replaced in 1936 with a new house designed by Oswald P. Milne in the Queen Anne style; she died in 1937. The house was then owned by Sir Francis Peek from 1938 until 1946.
Lady Grace Dance (1877–1960), the widow of Sir George Dance (1857–1932), lived here in the 1940s. George Dance, a dramatist and theatrical manager, was the owner and manager of Richmond Theatre from 1902. In St Andrew's church there is a memorial stained-glass window by Warren Wilson to George Dance and his son Eric who died in a prison camp during the Second World War. Lady Dance planned to sell the house in November 1949 to the Association of Engineering and Shipbuilding Draughtsmen to use as offices but the sale was refused by Surrey County Council who wanted it for an old people's home. The Council were offering less than the £26,000 that Lady Dance had paid for the house. In February 1950 Surrey Council's Town and County Planning Committee approved the plans of the County Welfare Committee to turn Forbes House into a home for the aged. In 1958 Craig House was built in the grounds facing Craig Road. The Friends of Forbes House and Craig House held an annual garden party. The house was used as an old people's home until this closed in 1992.
The house appeared in the film Up the Junction (1968) as the Chelsea home of Polly (Suzy Kendall).
The third house
The 1936 house was then bought by John Beckwith who demolished it in October 1992 before selling the site. A new house, designed in the Queen Anne style by Julian Bicknell for Sean O'Brien who founded Telstar Records, was completed in 1996.
References
- ^ Sampson, June (7 February 1998). "The Petersham wedding which produced a future Queen of England". News Shopper – via News Shopper.
- ^ "Forbes House, London". Julian Bicknell Associates.
- ^ "Forbes House, Ham Common, Richmond". Country Life: 169. 20 May 2004.
- Pritchard, Evelyn (1993). "A brief history of Gordon, Forbes and Langham Houses on Ham Common". Richmond Local History. 14: 20–25.
- "Read a book about the history of Ham". 28 April 2017.
- Hugo Vickers (2006). Elizabeth: The Queen Mother. Arrow Books/Random House. p. 7. ISBN 978-0-09-947662-7.
- "The late Mr Harry Scott of Balgay". Dundee Courier. 26 August 1889. Retrieved 13 July 2021 – via British Library Newspapers.
- "Deaths". The Times. 27 August 1889. p. 1. Retrieved 13 July 2021 – via The Times Digital Archive.
- Greenwood, Silvia (1982). History of St Andrew's Ham Common. Ham Library.
{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link) - "Deaths". The Times. 12 December 1916 – via The Times Digital Archive.
- "Deaths". The Times. 3 November 1928. p. 1 – via The Times Digital Archive.
- Kingsley, Nicholas. "Baird, William (1848-1918)". Landed Families.
- "Caroline Muriel Callander, later Mrs Baird (c 1861–1932)". National Galleries Scotland.
- "Court Circular". The Times. 25 July 1935. p. 17 – via he Times Digital Archive.
- "In the Georgian Manner. Forbes House, Ham Common". Country Life. LXXXIV (2173): 44. 10 September 1938.
- "Deaths". The Times. 19 April 1937. p. 1 – via The Times Digital Archive.
- "Mind Changed in Five Days". Evening Telegraph. 29 June 1938. p. 4 – via British Library Newspapers.
- "Ham & Petersham". Richmond Herald. 8 November 1947. p. 6.
- "The Theatre changes hands". Richmond Herald. 27 December 1902. p. 6.
- "Memorial Window Dedicated". Richmond Herald. 7 May 1949. p. 11.
- "Future of Forbes House". Richmond Herald. 18 February 1950. p. 12.
- "Richmond". Richmond Herald. 25 February 1950. p. 11.
- "Garden Party for Old Folks". Richmond & Twickenham Times. 6 June 1969. p. 3.
- "Court Circular". The Times. 6 June 1958. p. 14 – via The Times Digital Archive.
- "Up the Junction". London on Location.
