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''', by Tyco''' - Fri, December 16 2005 - 07:58 AM | |||
==Images== | |||
Hi, Mike18xx. I guess it was you who copied several images of paintings by ] to wikimedia from ] site. You seem to had a contact with the president of this foundation. More images were downloaded, and they were used in many WP articles, after receiving a permission from the foundation - please . However, a deletion discussion , and the images may soon be deleted on the insistence of ] and some others. Could you please contact someone from the foundation again and help to resolve this? I would greatly appreciate that. Warm regards, ] (]) 20:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
::All images by ] including yours have been deleted, thanks to Mikkalai.] (]) 18:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
== January 2011 == | |||
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*My edits contained four references to credible sources, once of which includes the direct verbal commentary of US attorney and Starr lead investigator Miguel Rodriguez (who resigned in disgust) -- and I disapprove of you using my talk page to tell lies.] (]) 21:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
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*Av3000, would it be possible for you and I to have an intelligent conversation -- or ''must'' it proceed ''straightaway'' to histrionic spasms of dire, impending doom delivered at the edict of Big Cheeses wielding Olympian power? Several points: | |||
:'''1)''' The matter of WND is not as cut-and-dried as I imagine you would like the casual browser of this user-talk page to instantly surmise. For example, the summation of your link to the ] is, quoting, with ] bold-faced by me: ''"Consensus '''appears to be''' that World Net Daily is not '''generally''' acceptable as a source for factual material....'' | |||
:-- The weasel words indicate a LACK of ''clear'' consensus, while the following: "''...individual citation(s) evidencing WND "unreliability" have not, thus far, been provided. As to whether or under what criteria/circumstance WND might be considered WP:RS, '''opinion is divided'''.}''" explicitly CONFIRMS a lack of consensus. | |||
:'''2)''' You have not provided any backing to maintain that AIM is NRS either -- for the sake of argument, I shall assume that a page exists within the Byzantine depths of the Noticeboard, but will also assume that it is just as ambiguous and shot full of self-contradictions, weasel words, and completely unveiled '''bad motives''' as the WND one. | |||
:'''3)''' Miquel Rodriguez is more than a reliable source -- he is, in fact, a '''''primary''''' source; it is not possible for you to logically maintain that the '''''direct audio commentary''''' of Kenneth Starr's former lead investigator in the Foster death is not pertinent because it is hosted by AIM -- ''unless'' you're maintaining that it's faked or distorted in some way. -- Are you? | |||
:'''4)''' Similarly, the FOIA lawsuit (which to the Supreme Court) by attorney Allen Favish is, by definition, noteworthy. With the lawsuit's author rendered noteworthy on the subject material, then any media organ ''directly quoting'' him must also be regarded as reliable (if only situationally) -- unless, once again, you're maintaining that they're lying -- and I do not believe you are prepared to insist upon such. | |||
:'''5)''' Regarding ''Failure of the Public Trust'' -- Patrick J. Knowlton, a primary witness in Fort Marcy Park, is by definition noteworthy and a reputable source of his own disagreement with factual statements asserted in the Starr Report, as is, by subsequent logical extension, his other written commentary on the subject (he shares author credit of ''Failure of the Public Trust'' with his attorney John Clarke and researcher Hugh Turley), in re: ] ''"....Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications."'' -- The FBI, which interviewed him, and the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, which heard Knowlton's case for submission of an "Addendum" to the Starr Report, qualify in conferring notability. | |||
:'''6)''' The proper place for this discussion is the talk pages of the articles themselves.--] (]) 08:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks. I was slowly figuring it out, but you beat me to it!--] (]) 09:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Hi. You recently reverted to ] by user {{user|Qwertman1}}. I thought Qwertman1's edit improved the article, removing quite a bit of hostile POV. Clearly you disagree; <del>can I ask why?</del> Cheers, ]<small>]</small> 09:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:I have seen additional edit summaries by you and consider them woefully incivil, this one for example: ... this is your last warning. If you continue with these incivil entries you WILL be blocked. I note also that you are sparring with a user giving you a warning, direclty below this. "tattle" is in no way shape or form a collegial remark and is unacceptable if civility is your goal. Consider yourself warned about that as well. At this point this is a formal warning from an admin and removal of it will also result in a block. ++]: ]/] 07:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:While there is sufficient block history to warrant a much longer block length, that appears to have all been five years ago. I've only set this for 24 hours. ] ] 16:58, 1 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
::I have satisfied my curiosity that little has changed at Misplaced Pages in the last five years. If anything, the flagrant BS is even more deeply ingrained than ever before. | |||
== Mind your behavior == | |||
I'd like to comment on your imposition of subjective views in a number of articles, which I was alerted of. At the very least, imposing your own views is a violation of the ] policy; at the most, it qualifies as disruption and can amount to vandalism if it persists. You've already received a warning about the personal attacks on other editors. Noting that you will push your 3RR quota to the limit as much as you can is also not a good idea; 3RR is a quick guideline to identify and punished "revert warriors" but it's not the worst thing that can happen to you. Try to keep cool, discuss civilly, and leave sensitive article content alone until you reach consensus to edit it. The NPOV policy doesn't say that everybody is entitled to have their opinion mentioned in an article. It must be read along with ] and ]. —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 00:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Let me see if I have this straight: Somebody is tattling on me, and you're sending me a warning without having even seen the subjects in question to see if I am actually guilty of the alleged crimes charged? Has it occurred to you how easy it is for whining tattle-tailers to "bully" ''their'' "subjective views" into an article just by continually "shopping" around for admins to go stomp over the user-pages of their critics? Fine. Two can play the game; and since I have your attention, I'd just like to let you know that many Wiki editors who tattle about me are disingenuous vandals who have no interest in writing truthful articles and every interest in locking down ''their'' propaganda. This is particularly the case in (a) Islam-related articles (for obvious reasons), (b) property-redistribution articles (socialists would love to imagine there are no credible, or any at all, arguments against their favorite way of getting stuff without paying for it) and (c) Chile/Allende-related articles (where some are tenacious in their attempts to preserve moldy 35-year old propaganda -- it tooks *months* to get into Wiki the Chilean Chamber of Deputies' own pivotal condemnation of Allende and request for the military oust him). Also please be observant of the fact that edits are not the same thing as reverts, no matter how much the defenders of rubbish would like to conflate the two when siccing the admins on their detractors.--] 03:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::As noted above, this entire paragraph is unacceptably incivil. ++]: ]/] 07:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Arguing that charges against oneself are untrue does not equate to being incivil, let alone unacceptably so.--] 01:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::Correct. As long as one remains civil in doing so. However, "tattle", "disingenious vandals", "rubbish" and half a dozen other terms I can easily pick out of just that one paragraph are all unacceptably incivil. Do you understand that? For if you don't understand and acknowledge that, then there's not much point in my replying to the rest of this and I might as well issue the block now. ++]: ]/] 01:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::Allow me to present an example of This editor slides in huge reverts while for "minor edit". His arguments have been shredded on Talk (by others first, so it's not all me), and he hasn't bothered to engage there since (and so his pretensions to a "dispute" warranting an NPOV tag involving his truth-censored/propaganda-inserted version are at best credulous). I say his edits *are* "disingenuous vandalism", their contents are indeed "rubbish"; and I certainly do not think it is "incivil" to refer to them as so ''on my own talk page''. I furthermore do not think it would be incivil of me to suggest that he has on occasion utilized sock-puppets -- certainly other editors have already done so in their summaries of this particular article, summaries I don't find to be offensive in the least.--] 01:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Take it away, Tycho, you prophet of the ages:--] (]) 18:03, 2 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::The thing is, we're talking about you, not other editors. If other editors have been incivil, that's a different matter. What I'm concerned with is '''your''' behaviour on many articles, because now that people are aware that there are admins watching you, reports of your behaviour are pouring in to me and other admins. | |||
:::::::And why ''shouldn't'' they "pour in" -- once it's been demonstrated that whining generates the result (censorship) the whiners are looking for? If the job description of a Wiki administrator ''morphs'' into "whine appeasor", then it is fairly obvious, at least to me, that whines will indeed "pour in", and placating them is what you'll be doing full-time.--] 17:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::(and yes, for the purposes of this discussion, I have no interest whatever in the content or accuracy of these articles,... | |||
:::::::I breathlessly await ''the very FIRST instance'', to my personal experience, of any administrator at Misplaced Pages evidencing any interest in the content or the accuracy of these articles. To date, I have yet to meet one critical of the accuracy of my contributions.--] 17:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::as this is about behaviour, and behaviour is never justified by content) The very diff you give has a woefully incivil edit summary (by you) just preceding it. Here's another example: . | |||
:::::::Exactly which entry in that particular link did you consider incivil, let alone "woefully" so? | |||
::::::I asked you a direct question and you refused to answer it, instead trying to excuse your behaviour by citing the behaviour of others. That won't wash with me. I am concerned with your behaviour without regard to others. You have been warned about this multiple times now, by multiple people. Do you acknowledge that your edits and summaries have been incivil and undertake not to be incivil in future? Yes or no? What I want here is a one word answer from you, either "yes", or "no", but anything other than the single word "yes" will be taken as "no", and I will act accordingly. | |||
:::::::I do not consider the admonishment of dishonesty to be equivalent to incivility; and I suspect you would be able to discern the difference as well if you were concerned with article accuracy. | |||
::::::Really, you're leaving me no other choice. ++]: ]/] 07:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Oh, come now; you have plenty of choices. For instance, you have the choice of deciding that you're not going to be the tool of would-be censorers of Misplaced Pages who, when they think they have a live fish on the line, are going to cram his in-box full of complaints.--] 17:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Further 3RR is not a license to revert 3 times in 24 hours and it is not a license to make similar but slightly different changes. If you persist in edit warring over articles, regardless of whether you are within the formal guidelines of 3RR, I will block you. ++]: ]/] 07:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Am I to take from this that the guidelines now no longer matter, and what matters instead is the ''arbitrary whim'' of whatever administrator has taken a disliking to me (if, for no other reason, than that I am argumentative before him)? I will also add that it takes *two* (or more) to "edit war", and that page-protections seem a more prudent course of action by ''dispassionate'' administrators. If you were to block ''everyone'' involved, that, at least, I couldn't argue wasn't fair.--] 01:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::Speaking of unanswered questions...--] 17:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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::I'd also like to reply particularly to your allegation that "you're sending me a warning without having even seen the subjects in question". Indeed I haven't followed the whole mess along, because it wasn't my intention to get involved in the discussion over ''content''. —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 14:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::This appears to be a stipulation as to the veracity of my "allegation".--] 01:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::What I've seen is a ''pattern'' of abusive edits on your part. I don't care whether what you wrote is true/accurate or not (that's a problem for the ones watching the articles); that's not the question... —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 14:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::A "true/accurate" edit which is also asserted to be "abusive" represents an oxymoric concept (and terse summaries don't just happen out of the blue, either). Even if such were possible, is it more important that thousands of interenet browsers encounter accurate information, or that the lowest-common-denominator "sensitive" contributor always be placated? I find it very worrisome that an administrator at an ''encyclopedia'' would blunty confess to not caring whether articles were true or not--if an encyclopedia isn't expressly in the business of accuracy, I fail to see what the point of the enterprise is. (Question for Lars: Do you consider it evidence of "incivility" on my part for me to harp on the issue of disinterest in accuracy?)--] 01:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::but the manner in which you're trying to get your ideas into the articles, and how you're treating others. The user who alerted me is one that I've known for some time, a very fine and knowledgeable contributor, and one who has never been accused of gaming the system or insulting those who disagree. —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 14:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Of course I have no way of defending myself from that statement nor of questioning credibilities...I can only sit in my uncomfortable chair in front of the tribunal and listen to the charges brought forth by unidentified accusors. That, and ''logically reduce the situation to its principled essentials, which is that another editor is complaining explicitly to get me disciplined, and that the administrator electing to perform the disciplining has no interest in the accuracy of the articles in question,'' and form my own conclusions regarding what Misplaced Pages will eventually amount to as truth inexorably becomes the least important aspect of article-creation. | |||
:::I shall leave the both of you with this: I have *never* gone complaining to an admin about anything -- not even to request an article-Protect. It's not that I am "treated" better by other editors than I treat them in return (a well-toned ''lie'' in a revert summary is more offensive to me than a blunt but truthful one); it's just that I have a thick skin and don't need anyone holding my hand. And you've heard, I hope, of the now-old saying ''Whenever you subsidize something, you will get more of that something''-? When whiners are "rewarded" for whining at Misplaced Pages, you're going to get ''more'' whining at Misplaced Pages, not less.--] 01:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::''', by Tycho''' - Fri, December 16 2005 - 07:58 AM | |||
===Blocked=== | |||
You've been '''blocked for 48 hours''' for disruption of article content and dispute resolution processes, multiple unjustified reverts after acknowledging your intention to game the 3RR rule, personal attacks, and vicious unrepentant incivillity in general. I won't engage you anymore with regards to content. | |||
:So am I "disrupt(ing) ''artical content''" or not? Frankly, that particular assertion cannot be true unless the content of the article was made more erroneous by my contributions. But no, you don't want to talk about ''that'' -- you want make your "contect" accusation, and then RUN from it.--] 17:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
I don't have a dispute with you, and I refuse to follow your excuses for breaking (and mocking) Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. | |||
:It is quite obvious to any dispassionate, logically-endowed observer of these exchanges that you do have a dispute, and that you are indulging in your adminstratorship to perform the ''indentical'' sorts of admonishments, here on my talk page, which you would deny to editors elsewhere. While perhaps permitted by Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, it is the very definition of hypocrisy. | |||
When the block is lifted, I hope you'll find a more constructive way to edit. —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 12:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I have found a more constructive way to edit -- I reverted blatant propaganda without commentary, but I observe that even this is unsatisfactory. Apparently the litmus-test for an editor being is "constructive" is when there are no complaints regarding him in an administrators in-box (with, as referred to preceeding, all that that entails once censors realize that all they need do is complain voluminously).--] 17:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
Note, you can still edit your own talk page, and you have an open question before you that I'd like to hear the answer to. I hope you'll give it very serious consideration. ++]: ]/] 13:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Do you advocate a Second Holocaust against Muslims? == | |||
:What a laughable title you have chosen for this, given that the *actual* Holocaust is simultaneously denied and applauded in places like Turkey and Egypt. I suggest that you ought to be more incensed about the fact that "Mein Kampf" is a contemporary best-seller in Turkey, rather than wasting your time with seldom-posting Misplaced Pages scribes. That is, of course, if holocausts are actually your concern here.--] 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::''When we were first considering making Epic Legends Of The Hierarchs available as a publicly manageable satirical metanarrative, we dropped the basic timeline on Misplaced Pages because I liked the way their software went about things. Of course, a phalanx of pedants leapt into action almost immediately to scour - from the sacred corpus of their data - our revolting fancruft. | |||
::I thought that anti-Semitism in the Muslim world was not home-grown, but a European import. | |||
:::Wrong. The reason the Grand Mufti of Jerusalim got along so well with the Nazis was because they already shared common interests (which the Nazis were quick to realize and exploit). That there are no Jews or Christians (saved scattered, underground remnants) in Saudi Arabia isn't a result of adopted Nazi mentality.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Anyway, where is your source of information on sales of "Mein Kampf" in Turkey? --] 07:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Here's a handy little tip that ANYBODY can do: Whenever you see anyone make a claim that you feel is particularly outrageous or unbelievable, you find your way to a search-engine and type in, say, turkey + "mein kampf", and see what happens. | |||
:::BTW, when replying in-line, please make sure the appropriate number of colons are present.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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''Saddam was a two-bit thug who shot his way to power in a country of 15 million people with almost no industry (and no resources except oil). Unlike Hitler (and like Stalin) he was an ogre ruling by fear alone and for this reason (which wasn't much good to start with, due to Arabs losing their military traditions during the ]) by murdering all its best generals (popular generals would be a threat to Saddam's rule, you see). His only foreign wars were against the ] - a country with very few friends in the West - and against Kuwait - a pipsqueak country originally carved artificially from Iraq by British imperialists.'' | |||
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:''Oh, and the poor, oppressed, "colonized" Arabs? You witless git: It ain't called "Islamofascism" for nothing; and it's been on the warpath for 1,400 years since L. Ron Muhammod formulated divine justification for pillage, homicide, rape and slavery. Welcome to World War IV, stupid.'' | |||
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My reply to this in turn is the Red Army 1941-1945 weren't fighting for communism - they were fighting for sheer survival against a genocidal enemy (and later on for sheer revenge against said enemy). | |||
:A splendid example of a false-analogy: Islam doesn't have any genocidal enemies and isn't being attacked. Rather, it is, as it has always been since its inception, the attacker.--] 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
Given that you liken Muhammad to the infamous Scientology leader L. Ron Hubbard... | |||
:Why does Hubbard (but not Muhammed) rate the label of "infamous" when he hasn't killed anyone or ? | |||
...and describe "Islamofascism" as having being on the warpath for 14 centuries, it seems like you advocate a war on Islam. | |||
:The "war", as it were, is already in progress. The decision which remains is to either respond, join the enemy, or die. ] may be the last place on earth to have to deal with that decision, but it will come nonetheless.--] 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
But Islam isn't a tyranny which rules only by sheer terror (like Soviet Communism), or a pure ideology of conquest which is only popular for as long as it is militarily successful (like Nazism). | |||
:If that were actually true, apostates from Islam wouldn't have to worry about fatwas authorizing their executions.--] 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Are you suggesting that the vast majority of Muslims only practice for fear of execution if they abandon Islam? | |||
:::I maintain the the "vast majority" of any faith only "practice" due to social ostracism if they do not. In faiths where little if any ostracism exists, the "vast majority" is religious in name only. In places like Saudi Arabia, where the ] (religious police) prowl the streets, you "practice" -- or else.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::If this is your belief, I may rescind the accusation that you are a genocidal maniac. --] 07:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
In fact it is probably the most tenacious ideology which has ever existed, more so than Communism, Nazism, democracy or even Christianity. | |||
:Christianity originated as the faith of the persecuted; Islam originated as the Arab-nationalist faith of plundering warmongers. Today, both religions maintain the same roles in Asia and Africa, where Islam attacks while Christians worship in hiding, fearful of the ]'s breaking in the door. I make the following wager as an atheist: Christianity will outlast Islam because its founding prophet preached virtuous living, while Islam was invented by its founder to justify conquest and slavery).--] 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Are you telling me that there was no slavery in pre-Islamic Arabia? --] 07:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::It it obvious that I haven't "told" you that at all, so I fail to see why you're asking me to confirm it.--] 22:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
Since abandonment of Islam is almost unknown (even the torturers of the ] failed to convert Muslims in Spain to Catholicism, | |||
:This is abject nonsense; see the links below.--] 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
...forcing the Spanish monarchs to resort to massacres and expulsions), how would you propose to win a war on Islam short of exterminating a fifth of the world's population? | |||
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So I repeat my question again. Do you or do you not advocate the genocide of Muslims? I'm waiting for your response... --] 15:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:What a duplicious question -- It's like asking me if I advocate the genocide of Germans should I maintain that Hitler's Nazis be gunned down as expediently as possible (except that you slyly, in the wording of the question, conflate the identity of both Germans and Nazis into solely the latter term in an attempt to trap me into appearing desireous of murdering innocents). | |||
::German military defeat fatally discredited Nazism. | |||
:::It is truer to say that most Nazis were killed during Germany's military defeat. Aryan supremecy as an ideal, however, remains strong. For instance, it is easy enough for any contemporary Aryan supremacist to argue that Germany was destroyed by other white powers, and that the Russians would have been pushovers if not for Lend Lease. | |||
:::Aside from that, this foray evades the point I made above.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Islam isn't so fragile - why didn't French colonial rule end Islam in Algeria, or Russian and Soviet colonial rule end Islam in Central Asia? | |||
:::They didn't follow the advice I list below. There's also the factor of they're not offering anything "new & improved" to the inhabitants of the region. I.e., neither communism nor French colonialism are marketable selling points. Additionally, they made the mistake of assuming that Algeria, Afghanistan, et al, were individual nations rather than merely appendages of a Shariah octopus. | |||
:::Aside from that, extremism *is* fragile as a dominant ideology -- it must continually "make examples" in the forms of beatings, executions, etc., in order to remain dominant, rather than a softer, more tolerant (i.e., less "faithful") version become adopted by peoples more interested in the affairs of their lives than those of insane mullahs. The Aztec cult had survived for centuries; it did not survive a few years of the Spanish killing its priests and razing the temples across all of Central America.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::One of the reasons why denazification was successful was because the West Germans couldn't defy the Western Allies without throwing themselves into Stalin's jaws. Methinks we need a "Soviet Union" - in this case a superpower ally so viciously anti-Islamic that Muslims would accept Western occupation as the lesser evil. --] 07:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::History affords no example of a totalitarianism more extreme than that Islamic totalitarianism; it's brutalities (most barely documented, such as the horrific slaughter of millions of Hindus and Buddhists during the conquest of the northwestern Indian subcontinent) are unmatached. Literally, it represents a ''de-evolution of homo sapiens'' in that anyone with a spark of independence, creativity or initiative is liable to be murdered, hounded into exile, or crushed into silence. It's as if a farmer destroyed his best seed, leaving the worst from which to plant next year's crop.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Regards Islam itself, it is an excellent example of what happens when a supernaturally-obsessed Hitler wins his wars of plunder and supremacism while declaring himself the agent of divinity, and his psychotic followers have 1,400 years to polish his lying, murdering, thieving, slave-mongering, pedophilic image in their taqiyya propaganda marketed to kafirs. There is, to be sure, plenty of lingering shiny, happy "religion of peace" Islam out there (mainly as a social-inertia remnant of civilized attitudes among conquered populations), but the jihadis are doing there damnedest to stamp that out now in dozens of countries. They, after all, know their religion a helluvalot better than you do. | |||
:Regards what ought to be done? Why, that's the absolutely easy part -- and the examples of how to do it, easily, are already a matter of historical record (e.g., the destruction of the Thugee and Aztec slavery and murder cults). Namely, round up and execute every so-called priest preaching slaughter (with that being the litmus test), and raze their temples to the ground. The present business in Iraq is an exercise in complete imbecility -- akin to playing the computer game "]" and trying to win by never destroying a "generator", but only the endless stream of monsters they spew. | |||
:http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm | |||
:http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=apostasy | |||
:http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=2&search=apostasy | |||
:http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/ | |||
:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004628.php | |||
:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004748.php | |||
:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005050.php | |||
:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005051.php | |||
:http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm --] 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:::I fail to see what you mean by that crack. Jihadwatch is run by Catholic theologian Robert Spencer; FaithFreedom is run by irreligious apostates. While opposed to Islamic depravities, they have little in common otherwise. If you were truly interested, you'd pop the hood rather than being fascinated by the paint.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Ronz, I have no time for this nonsense. I've browsed the Talk page of that article, and know exactly what BS games are going on over there. | |||
::I was wrong about "no group of people abandoning Islam" - the Gaugaz of Moldavia converted to Orthodoxy in order to settle as refugees in Russia. But the rule "no de-Islamification without ethnic cleansing" is still true in general. --] 07:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Knock it off.--] (]) 17:11, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::As far as the jihadis are concerned, anyone not following strict Shariah has "abandoned Islam". In a strict sense, that means every "Muslim" on Earth who isn't dressed properly at all times, down on his knees five times a day, and doing his (violent) part to establish the Universal Caliphate. Essentially, the great bulk of "Muslims" are de-facto "de-Islamified" at any given time, and the task of the Mutaween and the Jahidis is to beat and murder them back into compliance.--] 20:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Care to share your insight into the situation beyond edit-warring and making demands of others? --] (]) 17:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Seeing as you're being ably spanked on the talk page already...no. ("No time", remember?) ....I'll just nuke that garbage if I see it again. | |||
:::Say, I have a suggestion: instead of futility wasting your time (since you lack consensus) trying to make this article crappy, why not broaden your horizons to other articles no one is paying attention to and make them crappy? I promise not to follow your contribs for three days; and, if you refrain from posting on my talk page again (which generates an email alert to me), I might have entirely forgotten about you by then. Would that be fabulous? Just imagine what you could get away with.--] (]) 18:05, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Note also that you never answered the question I posed here which is a yes or no question. I'm going to take your answer, by default, as no, meaning that you do not acknowledge you have a civility problem, and that you do not intend to try to do better, and I will act accordingly. | |||
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:I will never indulge a "have you stopped beating your wife?" query in the affirmative.--] 18:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
I also note you're apparently reverting discussion, | |||
:Is there a need for that when the edit being revert was itself a revert of consensus, and performed by either an anonymous IP address (and suspected sock-puppet) or new user without a user history, and said initial revert also was performed without discussion? Are you now taking me to task over "bread and butter" activities which every Wiki editor is expected to perform?--] 18:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
and you need to not do that either, edit warring will get you blocked. So will removal of this notice except via a proper archiving of your entire page. ++]: ]/] 13:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Who's "warring"? I am restoring accurate information to an article, which, insofar as I aware, falls within the job description of an editor of an encyclopedia.--] 18:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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==Another Brian Leiter?== | |||
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Mike18xx, while ]'s choice of words strongly suggests he's trying to provoke you into giving him excuse for a much longer ban, | |||
:If he is, I prefer to identify those sorts of people right away.--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
he does have a point about uncommunicative edit summaries when reverting and so on. Like him, you might benefit from reading ] slowly. (I need to reread it myself!) | |||
:Virtually all articles on Misplaced Pages routinely feature reverts of reverts done without commentary...because it is obvious, with the least examination, that the initial instance was vandalism and the second instance was restoration. If an administrator is going to go so far as to use ''that'' as the latest excuse to selectively punish an editor for ''other'' alleged infractions, well, as I stated above, I prefer to identify those sorts of people right away.--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
You may have heard of a blogger named ] who systematically insults and belittles everyone to the right of ], for reasons he explains . Would you please read that? And then ask yourself whether you want to be regarded as a right-wing Brian Leiter? | |||
:I don't who Brian Leiter is, and I will further add that anyone who thinks that I am "right-wing" not only isn't paying attention, but performing leaps of speculation under the assumption that all viewpoints can be shoehorned into That Great False-Dichotomy of Our Times, the phony "left-right" political spectrum.--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
Perhaps you are disdainful of Lar because you work on articles about the big issue of the our age while Lar's wikihobby is little colored plastic blocks; | |||
:(Huh?)--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
nevertheless, he's right about the importance of discussing reverts, writing good edit summaries and all those other little chores which are so tedious in the short term but so necessary in the long term. One of the marks of wisdom is knowing that you can learn from nearly everyone, even those who seem like fools. | |||
:You'd be surprised what I learn every day around here. (I gather, however, that some would prefer that what was learned had remained unlearned.)--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
Have you read ], ] and ]? (Aside: it's interesting how people naturally divide into these identifiable groups — I was a mergist before I'd read the word.) I wonder if you are suffering from ]. | |||
:No.--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
If so, I suggest that you take some time to do a cost/benefit analysis of | |||
* shoving articles towards accuracy in big jumps but without consensus, versus | |||
:When you "point-jump" into a five-second appraisal of an edit, without examining the article history, it is indeed possible to come to the erroneous conclusion that the edit represents a wholesale change, when it in fact merely represents reversion of a mass edit ''of someone else'' undertaken without consensus.--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
* nudging articles towards accuracy in small jumps while developing consensus. | |||
:These are ''pragmatic'' arguments, not ethical or judgemental ones. By definition, they are "calorie-free" regards the ''crux'' of the matter: article accuracy. Aside from that, I edit in both styles.--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
For one thing, I don't think Misplaced Pages articles on contentious issues are likely to persuade many readers, | |||
:On the contrary, it is perceived that they persuade a great many people (particularly when the entries are mirrored by dozens of "search" and "answer" websites which basically "rip" Wiki) -- which is exactly why they are "contentious", and attracting of the attention of would-be censors and propagandists. Be that as it may, ihe inability of a Wiki article to persuade is not an excuse for it to remain in error for "reasonable" amounts of time according to a pragmatist -- since "reasonable error" is an oxymoron.--] 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
whereas discussions on our talk pages have persuaded editors (not often, I admit, but sometimes). (By the way, I've been wondering for months: does your username have anything to do with ]?) | |||
:Yes. | |||
Best wishes, ]<small>]</small> 17:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:Hello again. I don't have time for a proper response to your comments, but I will note that (1) you're completely right about the left-right spectrum and (2) your second-last response ("On the contrary ...") is probably at the heart of the matter. Cheers, ]<small>]</small> 19:22, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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::Mike the issue here is fundamentally as Chris spotted it. WP does not exist to get a particular point of view across and your actions and statements give the impression of POV pushing. Incivilly, to boot. You need to change your fundamentaly approach, as several users have politely explained, or you won't fit in here and you'll be asked to leave. Internalise that, or don't, but the choice is yours. I think you've already made it. I think pushing your POV nastily is too important to you for you to change. Too important for you to align yourself with the wiki way. The little girl in the congo 5 years from now on her hand cranked laptop doesn't need your POV. She needs all the facts we can give her presented neutrally so she can make her own determiniation. I don't think you get that. Prove me wrong. But sooner rather than later, please, as I think I've already got enough to go for an "exhausted the communities patience" permanent block if there are no signs of improvement. Prove me wrong. ++]: ]/] 20:42, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Lar, my "POV", as it were, is that article accuracy is the paramount concern of an encyclopedia. The little girl in the Congo with her laptop isn't going to be encountering my POV ''unless she has an exceptional interest in browsing edit-field commentaries, and discussion and user pages''. Lastly, "all the facts we can give her presented neutrally" should not be constued as a euphemism for "50/50 mixtures of truth and demonstrable error glued together with moral-equivalence logical-fallacies" (and there a LOT of articles here which are basically just that).--] 05:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::Working to remove bias and non neutral points of view is a laudable goal. But the problem here is that in so working, we have to do so collegially, and we have to do so by avoiding revert warring, and we have to do so by working for consensus. Looking at your edit history over the last two days, and spot checking some of your contributions, what I am seeing is a pattern of non-collegial comments, revert warring and generally (but not exclusively) reasserting things in article space instead of editing talk pages to work to consensus first. This pattern concerns me as it indicates a continuance of your previous ways. I'd ask you to stop and reconsider. ++]: ]/] 21:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Could you please leave other editors' comments alone and reply ''after'' them, instead of ''inside'' them? It makes the text very difficult to follow. —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 19:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Because that would make point-by-point rebuttal impossible. Like, for instance, this one.--] 19:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
You already got what you apparently most like, which is attention. —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 19:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:My, what an "incivil" insult. If only I were an administrator, I could also get away with this kind of hypocrisy.] 19:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
Since your slate is not clean, you should be trying to be extra-careful, even in cases where you might feel entitled to yell '']!'' at other editors for being revert-quick or summary-sloppy. And mind your words too. Next time you call me or any other person a "whiner" or a "whine appeaser" or anything of the sort, you ''will be blocked again.'' —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 19:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Even if they're whining, specifically for the purpose of getting a contrarian editor blocked? "Whine" is just as ''wholly arbitrary'' as "civil", Pablo. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.--] 19:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
I hope this will enhance your editing, and allow you to edit successfully and without disruption. ] <sup>(])</sup> 18:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Nobody can get anybody blocked. You must get blocked yourself, and it really takes some work getting blocked in Misplaced Pages. The question, as Lar asked before, is whether you'll go on like this (the revert-insult-argument-block cycle) or try to behave differently for a change, just to see what happens. —] <span style="font-size: 80%">(])</span> 00:21, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Re replying to long comments, here's an idea I've found useful: insert (1), (2), (3) etc in the existing comment, then use those numbers to indicate precisely which parts of that comment you're replying too. Just a suggestion. Cheers, ]<small>]</small> 00:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Strike that. You don't seem to be editing from an IP permissible under policy. ] <sup>(])</sup> 22:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Balance== | |||
I remember when Misplaced Pages used to be fun and contained articles which were actually expository instead of the political bullshit circus it is now.--] (]) 00:59, 19 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
Hi Mike18xx, | |||
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Robert_Spencer#Balance . Thanks --] 09:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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P.S. Also, please note that I found and added some quotes from Bat Ye'or in defense of Spencer and put them at the top of the section. --] 09:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
:It looks like you've done a good job...but the real problem will be the "pro/con" can of worms you've re-opened (previously closed last winter), and how far they'll slither around every day once you've gone off to edit other articles. I suspect that, in the end, it will quickly devolve into yet another tendentious Islam-related article repeatedly vandalized by sock-puppet propagandists, and that, in the end, that section will have to be flushed again for reasons expounded months ago in discussion.--] 19:38, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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: Yes, the section seems fairly balanced. --] 04:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Radosh criticism == | ||
The difference is that the Gorbachev quote is presented as his opinion without comment. You can cite Radosh's criticism, but you can't paraphrase his points without using Radosh's own words in quotes, or else you're violating neutrality of the main text. I'm satisfied with the changes you've made. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Would you please read the source before reverting back my edit. You can find the article by Lewis here: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/med/lewis1.html . | |||
== Jeff Davis calls for 100,000 soldiers== | |||
"In his message of April 29 to the rebel Congress, Jefferson Davis proposed to organize and hold in readiness for instant action an army of 100,000." That was after Ft Sumter and the war had begun. It was too late to be "provocative". see {{cite book|author1=John George Nicolay|author2=John Hay|title=Abraham Lincoln: A History|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=9lAfAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA264|year=1890|page=264}} ] (]) 03:15, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
*That source is incorrect if it infers that April 29 was the first date of such proclamation.--] (]) 05:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::What source are you using? ] (]) 05:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::See the ] article. The first call for a 100,000-man army was March 6. (It is very likely that the speed at which the South could field such a sizable command relative to the far-flung Northern armies was decisive in leading the Confederacy to its strategic blunder at Sumter, and subsequent loss of their tenuous nation.) --] (]) 05:58, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::we can't use Wiki as a source. That statement is unsourced and it includes the state militia units which already existed & did not mean new soldiers. And who says it was provocative? ] (]) 06:04, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::: (1) Considering that, mere minutes ago, you did not know that "it" even existed, you suddenly seem well informed on the matter. :-P. (3) I couldn't care less whether the militia were already existent, or Davis was throwing pennies down a wishing well. (2) You don't think it's provocative when a latently hostile polity announces plans for an army which is six times bigger than yours?--] (]) 06:17, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::Davis did not call for 100,000 troops on March 8. Instead the CSA Congress passed a law that authorized him --at some unspecified future date--to call up no more than 100,000 men. The Secty of War asked for $ "in the event that it should become necessary o organize such a force." see {{cite book|author=United States. War Dept|title=Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=NasoAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA134|year=1900|page=134}} ] (]) 06:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Who said anything about March *8*? But no matter; as I really am not interested in entertaining revisionism on my talk page. Other articles and sources disagree with you.--] (]) 06:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Two-part edit challenge. == | |||
Lewis says: "Both the Old and New Testaments recognize and accept the institution of slavery."... "The Qur'an, like the Old and the New Testaments, assumes the existence of slavery. It regulates the practice of the institution and thus implicitly accepts it." --] 04:22, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:At 'American Civil War', I have posted what I hope can be received as a balanced account of the Confederate 100,000 using all four sources among '''Mikexx''', '''Rjensen''' and '''TVH''' at ]. | |||
I am sorry, but Lewis says "far-reaching effects". It is ] to remove the quote. --] 04:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:- Please read the note all-the-way-through, I ALWAYS need sympathetic assistance on notes, it's like I have a blind spot -- I'm a "digital migrant" not a "digital native". So shoot me -- "they kill horses don't they" -- that's a literary allusion and metaphor and English-major-stuff I don't know about either -- so, anyway, | |||
:The erroneous ''insinuation'' is that the Bible ''also'' "regulates the practice" (of slavery). "It", particularly the New Testament, does not. I will persistantly delete any '''vague''' attempts to equate the Quran and Bible along these particular lines.--] 04:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:- I mean to restore the 4-paragraph INTRODUCTION section with conributions from '''Mikexx''', '''JimWae''', '''Rjensen''' and '''TVH'''. Omitting mobilization detail in the Introduction. Detail relating to the November 1860 through March 1861 mobilization ramp-up to an important mid-19th century war of mass-conscript armies -- BOTH armies matching or excelling Napoleon's armies in important respects of world military history -- are intended to be developed in the linked 'Mobilization' section. | |||
:Furthermore, this exchange belongs on the article's discussion page, not here.--] 04:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:- At the 'Mobilization' section, the idea is that ALL vantage points can be written up in a more accurate narrative that is ALSO more compelling than a one-note drum beat. Like the song said, "nobody's right, if everybody's wrong". I will try to bring along JimWae and Rjensen also, resulting in a ] four-paragraph article Introduction to meet peer-review critique for article GA status. ] (]) 07:25, 29 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== Manga links- and cancer of the scrotum == | |||
Hello again. When I followed that link, I was suprised and alarmed to see you arguing that it would be wrong to use Bernard Lewis as an authoritative source on the subject of Islam. I strongly believe that giving our readers a summary of the work of people like Lewis is ''precisely'' what an encyclopedia should do — isn't that the underlying principle behind the ban on ]? We have a duty to present the views of the notable experts in relevant fields to our readers, even when we think those views are wrong (see ]). I've certainly found myself typing some offensive falsehoods into Misplaced Pages articles because the basic rules of Misplaced Pages required those lies to be presented. If you can't live within those basic rules, perhaps you should reconsider your involvement with Misplaced Pages. I'd much rather see you work within the Misplaced Pages system than cease editing here, so please consider this a friendly suggestion. Best wishes, ]<small>]</small> 01:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:While lots of people, including President Bush, may consider Lewis to be an "authoritative source on the subject of Islam" merely because he's written a lot of books, many others conclude that he doesn't know what he's talking about. One can be notable without being correct.--] 23:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
No this isn't another complaint- but do be careful- I can't believe that manga is treating scrotum rot in a happy and light hearted way. If you do have any manga showing the development of the lesions- please DON'T email them to me! | |||
== 3RR notice == | |||
But over to sweeps in general- I have done what you should have done which is to integrate it into the text. It fits in rather nicely. The article IMO is mistitled and should follow the English name. I upped it to a start- but it does need more explicit references. I assume it came from the book in the External links- you must have it so go in there and add a few page numbers- use the ] article to find out how. --] (]) 21:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:The literal translation of '']'' has relative cachet over the seldom-used English studio title (and this is so because the anime was not initially shown or sold in English-speaking markets. As "Romeo's Blue Skies" is the only video adaption of the life a chimney sweeps, I thought is a relevant "See also". The show does NOT treat chimney sweeps' carcinoma in a "light-hearted" way at all -- seeing as one of the main characters dies from it (rather than "scrotum rot", the disease is presented as infecting the lungs, causing him to have difficulty breathing.--] (]) 21:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, Mike18xx. I guess it was you who copied several images of paintings by Nikolai Getman to wikimedia from Jamestown Foundation site. You seem to had a contact with the president of this foundation. More images were downloaded, and they were used in many WP articles, after receiving a permission from the foundation - please see here. However, a deletion discussion took place in wikimedia, and the images may soon be deleted on the insistence of User:Mikkalai and some others. Could you please contact someone from the foundation again and help to resolve this? I would greatly appreciate that. Warm regards, Biophys (talk) 20:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- All images by Nikolai Getman including yours have been deleted, thanks to Mikkalai.Biophys (talk) 18:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
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Please do not add unsourced or non-reliably-sourced content, as you did to Ken Starr, Vince Foster, and Suicide of Vince Foster. This contravenes Misplaced Pages's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. AV3000 (talk) 13:38, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- My edits contained four references to credible sources, once of which includes the direct verbal commentary of US attorney and Starr lead investigator Miguel Rodriguez (who resigned in disgust) -- and I disapprove of you using my talk page to tell lies.Mike18xx (talk) 21:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning; the next time you add non-reliably-sourced material, as you did at Ken Starr, Vince Foster, and Suicide of Vince Foster, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. "Failure of the Public Trust" is self-published, and neither World Net Daily nor AIM are reliable sources. Please, read WP:RS, WP:SPS, WP:NEWSORG, and WP:SOURCES. (I note from your previous blocks that you're already aware of WP:3RR.) AV3000 (talk) 00:13, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Av3000, would it be possible for you and I to have an intelligent conversation -- or must it proceed straightaway to histrionic spasms of dire, impending doom delivered at the edict of Big Cheeses wielding Olympian power? Several points:
- 1) The matter of WND is not as cut-and-dried as I imagine you would like the casual browser of this user-talk page to instantly surmise. For example, the summation of your link to the WND noticeboard is, quoting, with weasel words bold-faced by me: "Consensus appears to be that World Net Daily is not generally acceptable as a source for factual material....
- -- The weasel words indicate a LACK of clear consensus, while the following: "...individual citation(s) evidencing WND "unreliability" have not, thus far, been provided. As to whether or under what criteria/circumstance WND might be considered WP:RS, opinion is divided.}" explicitly CONFIRMS a lack of consensus.
- 2) You have not provided any backing to maintain that AIM is NRS either -- for the sake of argument, I shall assume that a page exists within the Byzantine depths of the Noticeboard, but will also assume that it is just as ambiguous and shot full of self-contradictions, weasel words, and completely unveiled bad motives as the WND one.
- 3) Miquel Rodriguez is more than a reliable source -- he is, in fact, a primary source; it is not possible for you to logically maintain that the direct audio commentary of Kenneth Starr's former lead investigator in the Foster death is not pertinent because it is hosted by AIM -- unless you're maintaining that it's faked or distorted in some way. -- Are you?
- 4) Similarly, the FOIA lawsuit (which went all the way to the Supreme Court) by attorney Allen Favish is, by definition, noteworthy. With the lawsuit's author rendered noteworthy on the subject material, then any media organ directly quoting him must also be regarded as reliable (if only situationally) -- unless, once again, you're maintaining that they're lying -- and I do not believe you are prepared to insist upon such.
- 5) Regarding Failure of the Public Trust -- Patrick J. Knowlton, a primary witness in Fort Marcy Park, is by definition noteworthy and a reputable source of his own disagreement with factual statements asserted in the Starr Report, as is, by subsequent logical extension, his other written commentary on the subject (he shares author credit of Failure of the Public Trust with his attorney John Clarke and researcher Hugh Turley), in re: WP:SPS "....Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." -- The FBI, which interviewed him, and the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, which heard Knowlton's case for submission of an "Addendum" to the Starr Report, qualify in conferring notability.
- 6) The proper place for this discussion is the talk pages of the articles themselves.--Mike18xx (talk) 08:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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I've fixed the nomination page and added the notification template to the article, but in the future, please follow the process listed at WP:AFDHOWTO. Thanks, MrKIA11 (talk) 09:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was slowly figuring it out, but you beat me to it!--Mike18xx (talk) 09:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. Once it gets listed publicly on the main listings page, you'll often have someone come along to help (or hinder) the process. That's the reason you usually list it last. MrKIA11 (talk) 09:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
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- Mark, I see similar warnings on your own user talk page, and so consider your posting this here after two reversions to be flagrant hypocrisy.--Mike18xx (talk) 07:06, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
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- Ronz, I have no time for this nonsense. I've browsed the Talk page of that article, and know exactly what BS games are going on over there.
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- Care to share your insight into the situation beyond edit-warring and making demands of others? --Ronz (talk) 17:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
- Seeing as you're being ably spanked on the talk page already...no. ("No time", remember?) ....I'll just nuke that garbage if I see it again.
- Say, I have a suggestion: instead of futility wasting your time (since you lack consensus) trying to make this article crappy, why not broaden your horizons to other articles no one is paying attention to and make them crappy? I promise not to follow your contribs for three days; and, if you refrain from posting on my talk page again (which generates an email alert to me), I might have entirely forgotten about you by then. Would that be fabulous? Just imagine what you could get away with.--Mike18xx (talk) 18:05, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
- Care to share your insight into the situation beyond edit-warring and making demands of others? --Ronz (talk) 17:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Herkimer diamonds
Herkimer diamonds are quartz crystals from a NY location. Plus the Herkimer diamond website is not a WP:reliable source, it is a commercial website promoting/selling their quartz crystals. Inclusions in quartz from a dolostone are hardly evidence for abio petroleum. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching that.--Mike18xx (talk) 22:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
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Radosh criticism
The difference is that the Gorbachev quote is presented as his opinion without comment. You can cite Radosh's criticism, but you can't paraphrase his points without using Radosh's own words in quotes, or else you're violating neutrality of the main text. I'm satisfied with the changes you've made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.241.78.110 (talk) 21:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Jeff Davis calls for 100,000 soldiers
"In his message of April 29 to the rebel Congress, Jefferson Davis proposed to organize and hold in readiness for instant action an army of 100,000." That was after Ft Sumter and the war had begun. It was too late to be "provocative". see John George Nicolay; John Hay (1890). Abraham Lincoln: A History. p. 264. Rjensen (talk) 03:15, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- That source is incorrect if it infers that April 29 was the first date of such proclamation.--Mike18xx (talk) 05:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- What source are you using? Rjensen (talk) 05:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- See the Confederate States Army article. The first call for a 100,000-man army was March 6. (It is very likely that the speed at which the South could field such a sizable command relative to the far-flung Northern armies was decisive in leading the Confederacy to its strategic blunder at Sumter, and subsequent loss of their tenuous nation.) --Mike18xx (talk) 05:58, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- we can't use Wiki as a source. That statement is unsourced and it includes the state militia units which already existed & did not mean new soldiers. And who says it was provocative? Rjensen (talk) 06:04, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- (1) Considering that, mere minutes ago, you did not know that "it" even existed, you suddenly seem well informed on the matter. :-P. (3) I couldn't care less whether the militia were already existent, or Davis was throwing pennies down a wishing well. (2) You don't think it's provocative when a latently hostile polity announces plans for an army which is six times bigger than yours?--Mike18xx (talk) 06:17, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Davis did not call for 100,000 troops on March 8. Instead the CSA Congress passed a law that authorized him --at some unspecified future date--to call up no more than 100,000 men. The Secty of War asked for $ "in the event that it should become necessary o organize such a force." see United States. War Dept (1900). Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies. p. 134. Rjensen (talk) 06:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Who said anything about March *8*? But no matter; as I really am not interested in entertaining revisionism on my talk page. Other articles and sources disagree with you.--Mike18xx (talk) 06:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Davis did not call for 100,000 troops on March 8. Instead the CSA Congress passed a law that authorized him --at some unspecified future date--to call up no more than 100,000 men. The Secty of War asked for $ "in the event that it should become necessary o organize such a force." see United States. War Dept (1900). Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies. p. 134. Rjensen (talk) 06:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- (1) Considering that, mere minutes ago, you did not know that "it" even existed, you suddenly seem well informed on the matter. :-P. (3) I couldn't care less whether the militia were already existent, or Davis was throwing pennies down a wishing well. (2) You don't think it's provocative when a latently hostile polity announces plans for an army which is six times bigger than yours?--Mike18xx (talk) 06:17, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- we can't use Wiki as a source. That statement is unsourced and it includes the state militia units which already existed & did not mean new soldiers. And who says it was provocative? Rjensen (talk) 06:04, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- See the Confederate States Army article. The first call for a 100,000-man army was March 6. (It is very likely that the speed at which the South could field such a sizable command relative to the far-flung Northern armies was decisive in leading the Confederacy to its strategic blunder at Sumter, and subsequent loss of their tenuous nation.) --Mike18xx (talk) 05:58, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- What source are you using? Rjensen (talk) 05:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Two-part edit challenge.
- At 'American Civil War', I have posted what I hope can be received as a balanced account of the Confederate 100,000 using all four sources among Mikexx, Rjensen and TVH at American Civil War#Mobilization.
- - Please read the note all-the-way-through, I ALWAYS need sympathetic assistance on notes, it's like I have a blind spot -- I'm a "digital migrant" not a "digital native". So shoot me -- "they kill horses don't they" -- that's a literary allusion and metaphor and English-major-stuff I don't know about either -- so, anyway,
- - I mean to restore the 4-paragraph INTRODUCTION section with conributions from Mikexx, JimWae, Rjensen and TVH. Omitting mobilization detail in the Introduction. Detail relating to the November 1860 through March 1861 mobilization ramp-up to an important mid-19th century war of mass-conscript armies -- BOTH armies matching or excelling Napoleon's armies in important respects of world military history -- are intended to be developed in the linked 'Mobilization' section.
- - At the 'Mobilization' section, the idea is that ALL vantage points can be written up in a more accurate narrative that is ALSO more compelling than a one-note drum beat. Like the song said, "nobody's right, if everybody's wrong". I will try to bring along JimWae and Rjensen also, resulting in a WP:LEAD four-paragraph article Introduction to meet peer-review critique for article GA status. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 07:25, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Manga links- and cancer of the scrotum
No this isn't another complaint- but do be careful- I can't believe that manga is treating scrotum rot in a happy and light hearted way. If you do have any manga showing the development of the lesions- please DON'T email them to me!
But over to sweeps in general- I have done what you should have done which is to integrate it into the text. It fits in rather nicely. The article IMO is mistitled and should follow the English name. I upped it to a start- but it does need more explicit references. I assume it came from the book in the External links- you must have it so go in there and add a few page numbers- use the Chimney sweep article to find out how. --ClemRutter (talk) 21:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
- The literal translation of Romeo's Blue Skies has relative cachet over the seldom-used English studio title (and this is so because the anime was not initially shown or sold in English-speaking markets. As "Romeo's Blue Skies" is the only video adaption of the life a chimney sweeps, I thought is a relevant "See also". The show does NOT treat chimney sweeps' carcinoma in a "light-hearted" way at all -- seeing as one of the main characters dies from it (rather than "scrotum rot", the disease is presented as infecting the lungs, causing him to have difficulty breathing.--Mike18xx (talk) 21:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, so you've been edit warring to include some stuff on magnetic fields in the article. Please discuss the changes on the talk page and don't keep edit warring to include them. You're now at 2 reverts by my count and you don't want to do more than 3.... WP:BRD and all that, emphasis on the D. Sailsbystars (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah. *Two*, which means it's not edit-warring -- and I *did* discuss the changes on the article talk page....so get lost.
- (I am in no mood for unctuous duplicity today. Sue me a river.)--Mike18xx (talk) 21:07, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
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