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			== Misleading use of "Indian" term in data ==
	== States & Cities==
	The lists of states and cities where Indians reside keeps on changing and is becoming more meaningless. States such as North Carolina, Georgia, etc are coming up on the lists even though the last census statistics show that these states do not have significant amount of Indian Americans. Similarly cities like Charlotte are appearing on this list. Lets uniformly decide to only have a certain number of states or cities on these lists based on the highest population (indian embassy statistics) to about 5-7.

			So far as I can tell, the US Census bureau uses the term "Asian Indian" for anyone of South Asian ancestry, but this page implies this is data for people of Indian ancestry. This also discredits the article's claim NYC has "by far" the biggest Indian-American population of any city in North America, because that would make it Toronto (https://en.wikipedia.org/Demographics_of_Toronto#City_of_Toronto).
	= = Millionaires ==
	The article says: Merrill Lynch recently revealed that there are nearly 200,000 Indian American millionaires. One in every nine Indians in the United States is a millionaire
	It also says there are 2,319,000 Indian Americans. That doesn't equate 1 in 9. I realize the study was in 2003. Is there a more recent study? ] 17:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

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			== Old data in this article ==
	Theres been some disagreement on whose pics to show for the politics section. Religion seems to be the dividing line. Religion shouldn't come into play as no one religion defines the ] identity. The highest ranking ] right now in politics is ]. Due to him being a ], especially one who has voluntarily become a ], not being born as such, there has been opposition and attempts to remove his picture (very childish). On the other hand there is support for a pretty much unknown politician's picture ](an ] from ]?) to be put up for the only thing I can see is that somehow is more identifiably ]. Anyway someone removed his pic, which is also very childish, but I have another solution. Why don't we just put up the pics of the highest ranking, most identifiable ] ], one of which is ]. I've also added a pic of ] (a ]) who is the Head Legislator of the Maryland House which I feel is the next highest. Plus I think he has the distinction being the first state legislator of ] origin. I've put the pics on a equal level on the left and right so no one thinks ones being favored. When religion is relevant it should be discussed or cited, but in this case its ridiculous.--] 14:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

			This article shows only data from 2010. There has been another Census. When can data from 2020 be included? - - ] (]) 19:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
	:No picture is better.--] 08:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

			== Highest concentration of Indians in the Western hemisphere? ==
	::Whichever picture is used in the end it is a fairly minor issue. I would prefer one and don't really care as long as they are Indian American and notable. If there is a politician that stands out more than the rest, I suggest adding a photo that person. Religion should have nothing to do with who's chosen. After all, the article is called Indian American, not Hindu American or Indian Christian American. I hope that when each section has a pic, it would reflect the wide range of religions present in India. It is a shame that there aren't as many images floating around for notable people in areas other than politics. <b><font color="teal">]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">]</font></b></sup> 06:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

			From the current version of the article (June 7th 2023):
	:I put a muslim indian in the poltics sections but someone removed it.--] 06:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

	::How about ], ] or Zach Zacharias?<b>]]</b> 16:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

			"], in the heart of ], ], ], home to the highest concentration of Asian Indians in the ]"
	:::I'm cool with it.--] 17:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

			Even without doing in-depth research on this topic, Surrey, BC (population 600+ thousand) has 38% of the city being of South Asian heritage. Source: Misplaced Pages
	::::Dalip seems to be the most notable because he was the first Indian to be elected onto the U.S. Congress. <b><font color="teal">]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">]</font></b></sup> 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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	Thats a good idea, I have no problem with that. It was childish to remove Jindal's pic, a more than legitimate pic for that section, and replace it with some minor almost unknown politician ] who is only a Assemblyman for his state. It was obvious from some of the statements made, it was Jindal's religion that seemed to cause these actions. I am re-adding Jindal's pic, but will leave Kumar Barve's pic to be fair, until someone can replace both with a decent pic of Dalip Saund. Until the replacement do not remove Jindal's pic, you can remove Barve's if you really only want one pic. Thanks--] 02:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

	:Excuse me but where do you go off stating it was religion that had to do with the removal of bobby's picture. I didn't state that. you did. Dalip is the most notable since he's the first. Dalip shall be the only be pic there. From there, we should have a concensus on which should be there.--] 03:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

			While it's true that not all South Asians are Indians, anecdotally as someone who used to live in Surrey the overwhelming majority of South Asians there are Indian (specifically from the Punjab region).
	== Cleanup of lists - listing of famous personalities, media, etc. ==
	I would like to suggest that we move lists of famous personalities (in different fields) to some place like ]. Also lists in the "Media" section would soon grow large, and it seems like moving that to a different page and linking it from the media portrayal sub-section (in current social issues) would be more relevant. What say? ] 22:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

			] (]) 18:45, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
	:go for it.--] 07:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

	::Done. I moved some of the lists (politicians, media references, and sports personalities) over to other pages and linked them here. Hope it helps. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 00:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	shouldn't there be something about the scripps howard national spelling bee, considering a large group of the contestants, winners, and finalists are indians? just a suggestion.

	== Discrepancy with population figures in ] ==

	There is an issue I would like to raise in regard to the population figures. In this article, it says there are some ~2.4 million "Indian Americans". However, the ] article says there are some ~1.9 million South Asian Americans. This does not make sense to me. Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the term "South Asian American" include ALL Indian Americans? If so, then one of the two population figures would have to be wrong, no? Thanks for the help! ] 20:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

	== Median Household Income for 2004 ==

	Why are there two figures for median household income in 2004? Can someone please resolve this?
	] 16:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

	== Picture ==

	Is the picture of Kalpana Chawla really necessary? I don't think this article really needs a picture, at least not of a person. ] 22:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

	:me too.--] 20:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

	::Yes, no pics would be best, especially if there are always disagreements about them--] 19:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

	:I think a picture could be helpful. What if someone didn't know what an Indian American looked like (I doubt that would be the case, but isn't that the point of an encyclopedia)? ] 21:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

	== Hotels ==

	Here is an article from USA Today if anyone thinks the article needs any more hotel stuff in it. ] 15:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

	== Discrimination ==

	The article says: "On April 5, 2006, the Hindu Mandir of Minnesota was vandalised on the basis of religious discrimination"

	But the sources cited with it say:

	"Maple Grove police said there were no suspects and the vandalism, which occurred last Wednesday and caused several thousand dollars' damage, does not appear to be a hate crime."

	and

	"Police Capt. Tracy Stille said the vandalism was not classified as a hate crime because police and temple officials agreed it appeared to be random."


	Is there any proof it was vandalized based on "religious discrimination"? I've added a fact tag but if there is no proof, it needs to be removed from the article. ] 13:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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Misleading use of "Indian" term in data

So far as I can tell, the US Census bureau uses the term "Asian Indian" for anyone of South Asian ancestry, but this page implies this is data for people of Indian ancestry. This also discredits the article's claim NYC has "by far" the biggest Indian-American population of any city in North America, because that would make it Toronto (https://en.wikipedia.org/Demographics_of_Toronto#City_of_Toronto).

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Old data in this article

This article shows only data from 2010. There has been another Census. When can data from 2020 be included? - - Prairieplant (talk) 19:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Highest concentration of Indians in the Western hemisphere?

From the current version of the article (June 7th 2023):

"India Square, in the heart of Bombay, Jersey City, New Jersey, home to the highest concentration of Asian Indians in the Western Hemisphere"

Even without doing in-depth research on this topic, Surrey, BC (population 600+ thousand) has 38% of the city being of South Asian heritage. Source: Misplaced Pages

Surrey, British Columbia

While it's true that not all South Asians are Indians, anecdotally as someone who used to live in Surrey the overwhelming majority of South Asians there are Indian (specifically from the Punjab region).

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