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| ==Morals== | |||
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| Due to the increasing emphasis on morals at the end of South Park episodes, would it be a good idea to include the 'moral of the story' in the episode description? Just an idea I had.<br> | |||
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| --] 19:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Requested move at ] == | |||
| ==List of One-Off Characters== | |||
| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <b><span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"><span style="color:#FC0">❯❯❯</span>]]</span></b> 10:26, 1 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| The page has been created. Please help by adding to it, but keep to the format. <br> | |||
| Danke,<br> | |||
| --] 15:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Numerous South Park episode articles have incorrect episode numbers tampered by IP editors == | |||
| *I've done some cleanup of the to-do list on the project page; many of the characters there have now been listed on the minor character and one-off character lists. ] 20:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hello. We have a bit of a problem... I was steered here by someone from the help desk and they said you may be able to help. | |||
| ==Spelling and Grammar== | |||
| I have seen a plethora of South Park articles that have absolutely dire grammar and/or spelling. Some sentences aren't technically even sentences. | |||
| This is a major issue. The grammar and spelling of an article is pivotal to the presentation. | |||
| I was going through some South Park articles and noticed that many of the Episode numbers have been messed up by IP addresses, specifically IPv6 ones. Usually each IP does only 1 edit. | |||
| Can I ask two things:<br> | |||
| 1) If you are bad at spelling, don't guess. Look up the word.<br> | |||
| 2) Can people help me with reforming the standard of spelling and grammar in the SP pages? | |||
| I am by no means an expert but I am certain there is more of these to do. | |||
| Cheers,<br> | |||
| --] 14:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I fixed ] and ] but it requires an investment in time to look at the other more than 300 episodes that have been put throughout the years and make the proper changes. Time I don't have. | |||
| ==Vandalising for Season 10== | |||
| I think we need to put a vandal proof on the ] page. Various occurances of vandalism has come to my attention such as a fake post about an episode called "Cartmanacopedia" in which Cartman discovers Misplaced Pages. It was soon removed though. To keep this article from confusing people we should give it vandal proof. | |||
| ] 18:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I think there will be enough people watching this (not to mention the ] patrol) that it's not necessary just yet. If it starts actually happening, then. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to vandal-proof ''every'' page and make people (a) register and (b) clear new information with other editors, but that's not the spirit of the 'pedia. -- ] (]) 00:45, 4 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I though I would bring it to your attention. ] (]) 20:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ==Songs== | |||
| I noticed there are two articles, one called ] and another called ]. It appears the first one is "original" material (although it seems excessive to me) and the second one is a list of "real" songs that were either played or mentioned in an episode (like, famously, "Come Sail Away"). Seems like these two lists could be merged somehow. -- ] (]) 00:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == FAR for ] == | |||
| I have nominated ] for a ]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the ]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are ]. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 00:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Yeah, I would say to merge the first into the second, but with a heading that sets it off from the rest. They are two totally different things, sure, but I agree that they can fall into the same article as songs of South Park. ~greenodonata | |||
| == Discussion at ] == | |||
| ==List of Minor Characters== | |||
| ] You are invited to join the discussion at ], which is within the scope of this WikiProject. ] (] | ]) 22:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)<!--Template:WikiProject please see--> | |||
| I have just made a page for ] and I think we should merge some articles into it such as Crab People, The Harrisons, God, Scott Tenorman, Ms. Claridge etc. If anyone agrees with me please reply here. | |||
| {{user|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| : Agree completely. I also don't think some of the characters that were taken from other series, or from real life, need their own section. Bart Simpson, Saddam Hussein, God, Satan, and a few others, are not unique to ''SP'', they were just fictionalized and animated for series purposes. Along that logic, you'd have to add every celebrity that was ever skewered (Tom Cruise, Barbra Streisand, Kathie Lee Gifford, there could be dozens). I think we should stick to just the fictional characters that were created solely for the series. Thoughts? -- ] (]) 00:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: I do not think that Satan, Saddam Hussein and God should be merged as they have appeared in more than one episode and have had significant roles (especially Satan and Saddam Hussein). However, characters appearing in just one episode who are not original to South Park (like Bart Simpson) should be merged.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
| :::I think that all minor characters should be merged, even if they've been in more than one episode, per ]. -- ] 01:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I agree, all minor characters should be in the article. A few appearances certainly isn't enough for an article. If (or) when the character appears on a regular basis, then make the article for it. ] 04:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::We should merge characters in if they have had less than 4 appearences, not including cameos like God in ]. If they've been in four or more episodes then they deserve their own article. Scott Tenorman by the way DOESN'T need an article. When I first joined Misplaced Pages himself and the Christine Aguilerra Monster from Timmy 2000 had their own pages. We don't need Scott Tenorman. | |||
| ] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Also people are adding many characters all the time, to be a minor character they should have appeared either 2 or 3 times. 1 appearence makes them a ONE-OFF CHARACTER. | |||
| *] 11:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| See my addition on the talk page of ]. Let me know what you think. | |||
| --] 13:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I've done some cleanup of the to-do list on the project page; many of the characters there have now been listed on the minor character and one-off character lists. ] 20:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Issue with trivia on many South Park pages== | |||
| Way too much trivia, makes the articles look bad. Put important information in the article itself (not in notes, trivia, goofs, culture references, etc), and keep unimportant things off. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan's guide to every little note or mistake. Episode articles seem to be the most common place to find too much trivia, but it happens on other South Park articles as well. Trivia sections don't always need to be removed, but try to keep it small: between 1 and 4 items is acceptable, in my opinion. Remember: important things, not non-notable things. ] 04:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I agree, personally what is the point of adding goofs and notes. If we're South Park fans why do we want to bring up mistakes and ruin the appearence on articles with notes and all that. I think 6-8 trivial facts are enough. If there are very important ones put them on the article's talk page. If agreed with it can be added. | |||
| *] 22:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I would suggest rebraning Triva as "Episode Notes" or similar. I understand Misplaced Pages want to lose trivia sections however in the case of individual SP eps I don't think it's too much of an issue, such as useful titbits like "Cartman doing X parodies the time Butters did Y in episode Z". ] 18:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm not sure if a rename is the best way to solve the issue though. ] 23:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Improving articles == | |||
| Congratulations to everyone who contributed towards ], which now has good article status. However, the main article about ] really does need improving, given that it is one of the 50 most visited articles on Misplaced Pages, and it has been tagged as an article requiring cleanup since last month. Here are a list of suggestions towards improving it towards good and eventually featured article status: | |||
| Cite sources when analysing episodes, as Misplaced Pages is not the place for original research. | |||
| Follow the style of other television show articles that have good and featured article status. | |||
| Integrate trivia into the article where possible. | |||
| Add any more suggestions if possible. | |||
| ] 15:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I've noticed quite a lot of links to other non-SP articles with random words like "sex" (linking to the sex article) and "hostage" (linking to the article for hostage) in many episode articles. I do not think these are necessary and I suggest them to be cleaned up.] 21:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Project Directory == | |||
| Hello. The ] is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing ]. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages: | |||
| *], | |||
| *], | |||
| *], | |||
| *], | |||
| *], | |||
| *], (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents) | |||
| *], and | |||
| *] | |||
| and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at ], listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. | |||
| The three columns regarding ], ], and ] are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. | |||
| It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. ] 21:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. ] 23:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Character pages== | |||
| This is getting out of hand. People are freely deleting articles and merging them when they don't need it. Some characters don't even have the character template on their page and all articles need to have the South Park characters template so other articles can be linked. I'm also having a hard time finding out who voices who for: | |||
| *The 6th Graders | |||
| *Bertha | |||
| *Sally | |||
| *Heidi | |||
| and many more. If you know could you please say. | |||
| *''']''' ]'']'' | |||
| :If you mean me, I was just merging what was on the to be merged list and some others with the same importance as those. I don't think I merged any that were important. ] 03:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Fair enough, good job tidying it all up Nemu. | |||
| *''']''' ]'']'' | |||
| ==Voices of Characters== | |||
| Below are all the character pages. Please help me by filling them in because I really am stuck on some. | |||
| *Stan- Trey Parker | |||
| *Kyle- Matt Stone | |||
| *Cartman- Trey Parker | |||
| *Kenny- Matt Stone | |||
| *Butters- Matt Stone | |||
| *Tweek- Matt Stone | |||
| *Mrs. Garrison- Trey Parker | |||
| *Mr. Mackey- Trey Parker | |||
| *Craig- Trey Parker | |||
| *Clyde- Trey Parker | |||
| *Wendy- ? | |||
| *Bebe- Jennifer Howell | |||
| *Jesus- Matt Stone | |||
| *City Wok Guy- Trey Parker | |||
| *Officer Barbrady- Trey Parker | |||
| *Sergeant Yates- Trey Parker | |||
| *Principal Victoria- ? | |||
| *The 6th Graders- ? | |||
| *Heidi- ? | |||
| *Kevin- ? | |||
| *Kindergarteners- ? | |||
| *Saddam Hussein- Matt Stone | |||
| *Satan- Trey Parker | |||
| *Mr. Slave- John "Nancy" Hansen | |||
| *Token- Adrien Beard | |||
| *Mr. Tweek- ? | |||
| *Mrs. Tweek- ? | |||
| *Randy Marsh- Trey Parker | |||
| *Sharon Marsh- ? | |||
| *Liane Cartman- April Stewart | |||
| *Dr. Mephisto- ? | |||
| *Dr. Doctor- ? and George Clooney | |||
| *Goth Kids- ? | |||
| *Mayor McDaniels- ? | |||
| *Chef- Isaac Hayes | |||
| *Jimbo Kern- Matt Stone | |||
| *Ned Gerblansky- Trey Parker | |||
| *Mr. McCormick- ? | |||
| *Mrs. McCormick- ? | |||
| *Stephen Stotch- Trey Parker | |||
| *Lynda Stotch- ? | |||
| *Nurse Gollum- ? | |||
| *Sally/Powder- ? | |||
| *Bertha/Red- ? | |||
| *''']''' ]'']'' | |||
| ==Character page format== | |||
| I noticed that none of the pages share the same format, so I was thinking there should probably be one. I was thinking it would be something like I did to ]'s page. The personality section would have subsections if they're relevant such as ]'s relationships section could be under it. Then the accomplishments section would replace the mention of every single episode as that seems unencyclopedic. Thoughts? ] 19:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *You're very right about that, the character pages have been bothering me for ages, pages like ] need lengthening. Not just mentioning appearences. My idea for page layout is: | |||
| --introduction-- | |||
| (who is character?) | |||
| (voiced by?) | |||
| --character traits-- | |||
| (appearence?) | |||
| (behaviour?) | |||
| (personality?) | |||
| --family/friends-- | |||
| (links to other relatives with brief description of them) | |||
| --career/lifestyle-- | |||
| (any hobbies?) | |||
| (job? has job been relevant in episodes?) | |||
| --important points of their life-- | |||
| (major points in episodes, such as Cartman's Mom is Still a Dirty Slut for Ms. Cartman) | |||
| (goals in life?) | |||
| --appearences-- | |||
| (what episodes? brief description) | |||
| --trivia-- | |||
| (important facts) | |||
| :Introduction would be the opening, so that's already taken care of. Character traits could have appearance and personality subsections. If the character has enough info for it, that's where the relationships could also be. The problem with separting their life and their actions is that some lack certain parts, so it would be better to combine them. Appearances really doesn't need to be there because if the appearance wasn't important enough to be mentioned in their actions, it's pointless. Trivia sections are also pointless because if the info isn't important enough to be put anywhere else, it shouldn't be mentioned. ] 23:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::i've updated the ms. cartman page but it needs trivia. | |||
| --] 14:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == South Park portal == | |||
| I have started work on a portal for South Park. Feel free to contribute. ] 14:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ] is the South Park portal if you would like to help. ] 16:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| FYI, someone's nominated this portal for a '''proposed delete''' (not me!). Thought you might want to know. –] 04:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I have now nominated the portal for deletion. ] 20:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Cleanup == | |||
| A ton of articles require cleanup. ] has no lead, and is written from an in-universe style. ] should be moved to ] per ]. Several other articles are written from an informal tone, witch isn't encyclopedic etc. We should address this ASAP. -- ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 23:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Assessment and Importance == | |||
| It is important to assess all articles relating to South Park in terms of their quality. Also, could someone expand the template to include the importance of the article within South Park. I have tried and failed on several occassions. This would be very helpful as we need to identify which articles need improving the most as well as the most important articles. Thanks. ] 16:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I've finally added an importance assessment parameter to the banner. -- ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 03:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you. Now that this has been done, I feel that we should get on with assessing the articles based on their quality and their importance within South Park. We need to have a discussion over how 'important' articles before this can be done effectively. At the moment, the 'Top-importance' articles/lists are ], ] and ]. I propose that the main characters should be top-importance, as well as the creator bios. I also propose that articles about episodes should in general be mid-importance. Any additions to this debate would be welcome. ] 19:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Thank You == | |||
| I just wanted to say thanks for doing this. I've been trying to correct Stan's article(When it came to heritage and veganism, I posted in the discusdsion.) | |||
| ==Character Pages== | |||
| Just thought I'd explain to everyone that I've split the character lists up to families, townsfolk, school staff, school students, occasional characters and I've kept the minors. | |||
| *''']''' ]'']'' | |||
| == Kenny so called lyrics == | |||
| I've have to remove 3 examples of these and i've very very minor interesting in south park . User of this project should be keeping a very active eye out for this (] 18:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)) | |||
| :The source for this is http://spscriptorium.com/SPinfo/OCsecrets.htm, which cites an online chat with Trey Parker. That site appears to be pretty credible. --''']''' (] | ]) 01:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thats one fan site ] and ] require more (] 12:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)) | |||
| :::The official site has for seasons 1-5, I'll see if I can find something on the official site for season 7 onwards --''']''' (] | ]) 02:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thats more like it readd if you wish(] 15:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::Ah, found , no official word on , though. I'll go ahead and readd those. --''']''' (] | ]) 03:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Open tasks: List of minor characters == | |||
| All of the character links proposed for merging with the List of minor characters now redirect to the aforementioned List. Should this task therefore be deleted? ] 13:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Done. ] 20:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Created Images of Characters== | |||
| Hey there, would it be a wise idea to use created characters from the "Create your own South Park Character" game at southparkstudios.com to put up some clearer images of characters for their pages? For example, here's Stan: http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:StanSP.png | |||
| Not 100% sure about the copyright requirements and stuff, but if it's okay to do I guess anyone can do the rest. So yeah, thoughts? :) ] | |||
| == AfD == | |||
| The article ] is up for ]. It's the first time I saw this article, and I probably would have nominated it myself. This whole project seems to be pure fancruft, now that I really think of it. -- ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 17:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :The project is NOT fancruft, it is an attempt to tidy up South Park's articles. If you don't like the idea of the project then don't be a member. | |||
| :*] 20:06, 17 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ok, sorry. I'm only doing what I feel is the best for South Park and Misplaced Pages. -- ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 20:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::For someone who wishes to be a Misplaced Pages administrator, you do not show much professionalism. Learn to be less abrasive, please. --] 00:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==South Park Episode List== | |||
| I'm giving each season it's own article just like the Simpsons. Please do not create articles for seasons that haven't been made, I'm up to season five. Please do not add an article for season 6, season 7, season 8, season 9, season 10 because I have done them on my own specific format. | |||
| *] 20:06, 17 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| **Is an individual page for each season really necessary? The South Park eps page is very good (it's an FL after all) and if your going to make individual pages, I don't think that they should just be copy and paste versions of the big list. So, if we're going to have individual seasons, we should get rid of the summaries, etc on the main episode page and make it similar to the ]. -- ] 14:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ***Exactly! This is what I've been trying to say......we seem to copy everything off Simpsons pages you know! | |||
| ****] 22:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Misplaced Pages Day Awards == | |||
| Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of ] proposal for an appreciation week to end on Misplaced Pages Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at ] where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. ] 16:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :This has little to do with this project. --] 19:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == CFD notice == | |||
| {{cfdnotice|South Park actors}} | |||
| ::Please also note ] for a review of the decision regarding ]. ] 08:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Why was this deleted may I ask? It's quite a good idea for a category and I'm sure that the page's creator and many others would agree. {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ==Season 11== | |||
| Just a word of warning, keep an eye out for vandalism and misleading information on the episode page about season 11 eps. I found "Return of Darth Chef". Just a reminder, season 11 starts March 7th! *Mr. GaRRiSoN 23:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Question == | |||
| Someone has been adding "past South Park character" to some characters who haven't appeared for quite a time. I'd like to know, how is a "past character" defined? I mean, calling them "past" is a little bit over the top, but not calling them so is crystallballing, as it predicts they are sure to return. But, then again, we would then have to include "past" to every secondary or reccuring character after each apisode in which they weren't featured, and that is quite irrational.--] 17:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :"Past" shouldn't be used at all - they are either a character or they aren't. ] guidelines say that fictional events should be written from a present tense perspective, since they "come alive" whenever the fiction is read or watched. ] 20:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::That was me. It's for characters who were killed off or written out. For instance Chef, Choksondik and Crabtree are dead, whereas I feel Mr. Slave was written out. {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ==Butters== | |||
| While I took alot of time to cleanup and condense Butters' main article, could some of you help me cite the sources so we can get this article a good rating. ] 17:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == replacing Infobox South Park episode == | |||
| In the process of attempting to limit the amount of Series-specific episode infoboxes, I have now landed at South Park :D. Replacing all usages of this template by hand is just an enormous task. I'm considering replacing the current contents with the template with ]. On article pages you will then end up with . After this a bot can subst: all the transclusions of the template without breaking the box. You will end up with a less then optimal subst: result , but it doesn't interfere with the functionality of the infobox, and it saves a whole lot of work. Opinions please ? --] (] • ] • ]) 12:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * I like it, it's very clean and looks easy to edit if necessary. ] 14:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Characters== | |||
| Should most of the characters be merged with the various lists? After looking at most of the articles, the bulk of them are stubs or would be stubs after the removal of trivial information. Only the main characters and the major secondary characters should need pages. ] 19:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Possibly, but it depends on who you mean. We made an agreement along time ago that if they've been in about 4 or more episodes with an important role they deserve an article. While people waste time deleting we could actually work on fixing an article for once....no offence to anyone but we don't seem to ever fix stubs. Some of us fixed up a few character articles maybe it would be good for everyone to do... {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ::I really would say most of them. All of the ones under the "Townsfolk" section, most of the ones under the "South Park Elementary" section, and probably like half of the family members are stubs (many have pointless lists). Instead of taking the time to mention every single slight role, it would seem better to have most of them on the lists. The description of their character and a couple of really important roles they have can be talked about (the bulk really shouldn't need mention). Four episodes really isn't a very good method of determining importance. ] 19:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::We can't just delete a whole load of articles because they lack quality. Come on people this in an encyclopedia! We're meant to add more things and write, not delete stuff just because it doesn't seem important. These characters have a lot of important history. The only ones I can think of worth merging are ] and ]. People visiting the site won't care about if the pages are meaningless to a few people, they care about finding out the facts - quickly and in good detail. All I see on this project is merge/delete/speedy delete. I founded this project to ensure one thing - all stubs etc. are fixed.....not deleted. If you don't believe I created the page check history and go to the beginning. I should be listed first. I didn't want it to end up as another useless talk page with people just wanting to merge and delete stuff, I made it so we can discuss how to improve, not delete.... {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ::::The problem is that not enough people actively work in this project. The stubs won't be fixed unless plenty of people are willing to work on them. If they are merged, all of the core information will be placed there. That way, all of the junk will be gone, and it can be expanded. After being worked on enough, the character could be brought back. ] 17:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Sorry, but I'm really against that. Would you be able to post some article titles that seem unsufficient, I'd be happy to work on them. {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ::::::Well, you really aren't the deciding force or anything. The fact that you're the only one that has replied sort of proves my point. Pretty much all of the articles need major work. That is why most should be merged. ] 22:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Dude calm down I'm just saying my point of view ..... besides, why can't we just improve articles for once, actually merge them all I'm more bothered about the South Park Wikia site. {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ::::::::I think you're the one that probably needs to calm down if you see that previous comment as anything other than calm. I guess I'll merge some in the next few days. ] 15:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Sorry about that I got a bit mad. Anyway, I'm fixing some of the articles could you tell me some of the pages you wanna merge so we can all voice an opinion here? {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| :::::::::::At this point I was thinking of merging pretty much all of the stubs. For example, ] is a pretty notable character, but his article is pretty much a stub (after cutting some of the repetitive and pointless stuff). He should be merged for now. He may warrant a page in the future, but at this point it's rather pointless. ] 20:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::True, but is it okay to merge it with South Park Elementary students. These seemingly unusual pages help to prevent those long lists that can add barely anymore info to. They also make the page easier to load up and all. {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ::::::::::::::but now ] has an article, as does ], but Jimmy, Token and all the others do not. why remove all the students but keep family members?· ] ] ] 02:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I'm just lazy. I'll get the rest eventually. ] 02:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Whoa-Whoa-Whoa! What are you talking about? Bebe Stevens' article was not a stub! Neither was Clyde Donovan's! Or Wendy Testaburger's! As I said elsewhere, if the character has enough information to fill at least seven paragraphs, (granted, these paragraphs are about ten lines each), give them their own, private article! It's only fair to the character! Geesh! ] June 24th, 2007. | |||
| == Character images == | |||
| Well, a consensus must be reached to use specific images on the 4 main characters articles. | |||
| *] should be used over ] | |||
| *] should be used over ] | |||
| *] should be used over ] | |||
| *] should be used over ] | |||
| Resons: For the Stan image, check ]. | |||
| About the others, all of those images descriptions (on their description pages) say: "released to the public for any wanted use". NOOO, all of those images are copyrighted. If it really were '''released to the public for any wanted use''', anyone would create a program called North Park and use this images for the main characters. | |||
| Another thing is that SVG images should be used over PNG and other formats. Check ]. | |||
| ]<sup>] • ]</sup> 02:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *I uploaded them, if comedy central releases something to the public, then they intend it for public use. Frankly, the SVG images are............I cannot stand them since the incorrect details and fact that they are unnofficial designs. By the way, next time don't so be goddamn rude because I cannot stand people who are rude to me on here. {{user|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| *I happen to like the SVGs. The ability to fix incorrect details is one of the great things about them; anybody can do it, and pretty easily. I'm more concerned about whether they're legal; the fair use template says that it's for "low-resolution images", and I don't know exactly whether SVGs qualify as low-resolution. Assuming they are legal, I absolutely believe they should be used. ] 19:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *The character images are copyrighted images and only allowed per the wikipedia policy on Fair Use. Your SVG image is a copyright violation, because it's a derivative of an original copyrighted item. In general, derivatives are more frowned upon by the copyright holders then what they release themselves as images. I think the usage of the promotional images here is definetly preferred. --] (] • ] • ]) 20:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| **Provided of course proper fair use rationales are provided. The current explenations there are rather ehm, insufficient. {{tl|character-artwork}} should be used for one. --] (] • ] • ]) 20:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Can we just use screenshots for all of them? Please would someone agree with me for once. {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| :If you want to use that images, first use a correct source and a correct status. '''released to the public for any wanted use'''??? That's totally false. ]<sup>] • ]</sup> 02:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I've checked the new images that FictionH has uploaded and I think it's ok. Maybe the best thing we can use, except for the Kyle image. Please upload (replace the actual) a better one. ]<sup>] • ]</sup> 03:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I just read this. So FictionH CLAIMS that he works at South Park Studios and that he created the pictures. That's nice and all, but 1 we have no proof of his employment and identity, 2 it's not HIS work, all work that he does falls under the copyright of the company he works for (99,5% of the cases), so he cannot decide to license this artwork in the way that he has stated, only the company can do that. This makes BOTH sets of images unsuited for inclusion in wikipedia in my opinion. If South Park Studios really wants to release the work to wikipedia and all GFDL derivatives, then there are wikipedia processes that allow for this. But a claim by a supposed employee will not suffice. Website promo material, or screenshots from the show, with a proper Fair Use rationale is still the preferred way to do this atm. --] (] • ] • ]) 14:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::If I upload screenshots then I'll add that I screenshotted it from my OWN season whatever boxset but I know you lot will still find something wrong with it so actually I probably won't bother. {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| ::::I'd just like to point out that there's an undercurrent of dislike between people here, I annoy I put the wrong copyright status up but gimme a break, and please do not reply with CAPITAL LETTERS and '''bold text''' since it is found rather rude. We all like South Park so lets all work as a team, I know we will do a good job guys so please lets stop arguing. :) {{User|Mr. Garrison}} | |||
| (unindent) They are also used to show emphasis to certain points. IF I TYPE LIKE THSI THEN I'M SHOUTING, BUT I WOULD NEVER DO THAT. I just care very much about good quality articles, and making images, that are simply not free and never will be free, be proper content in wikipedia is just a difficult proces that is not fully understood by all people; and with reason, because the law is very annoying in this respect. The law is written for professional book editors, not for casual webeditors, and that causes a lot of confusion within wikipedia. I'm just trying to show what the best way is to include these images, without others having cause to remove them in the future. See also ] --] (] • ] • ]) 15:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Well, the only solution is: | |||
| *If we can't use SVG cuz that's a copyright violation (the high resolution), then we won't. | |||
| *If we can't use images created by others who are not the creators of South Park (like the Stan Marsh created by Fiction), then we won't. | |||
| *The only thing we can use are screenshoots, but good screenshoots. And a clear fair-use rationable must be added. And the uploader can't claim that the images have been created by him/her (like the ]. ]<sup>] • ]</sup> 21:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I'm fairly unfamiliar with the Fair Use policies and Copyright laws, so forgive me if I'm completely off base here... Would it be possible to use pictures and screencaps that are posted on www.southparkstudios.com since that is the official site of the studio? They have a vast collection of images there, I don't think we'd have much problem finding decent pictures over there. ] 21:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :If this is "promotional" material, then that would be fine. However, if you take stuff that is an "element" of the website, something that for instance was created specifically for the website, then South Park studios might not appreciate that and ask us to remove it (it would still be a proper Fair Use, but note that material used under Fair Use, can be demanded to be take offline/removed by the copyright holder at any time). So that's why I explicitly said "promotional images". The other case is a frame from the actual series and that would always be a proper Fair Use, because it shows the character in the way it was part of it's original fictional work. --] (] • ] • ]) 18:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, they host a large image index on the site. The pictures are mostly screencaps from episodes posted as individual pictures in an index. You can see this index . It's broken down by season there, but you can also go to individual characters. That area is even called "Downloads", so I'd say they intend for people to use them as images. An image like could be used for Kyle's page. I'm not sure on the rules about altering an image by cropping out other characters or backgrounds. It would be significantly easier to find acceptable pics there if we could remove excess stuff. ] 20:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::OK, i think this is the best bet. I'm not 100% sure about the cropping either, but i think it should be ok... Just as a related point "so i'd say the intend for people to use". people are private individuals here. Note that wikipedia as a movement does not have the same "personal use" rights as an individual has :D --] (] • ] • ]) 22:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == One-off character page has been nominated for deletion == | |||
| The ] page has been nominated for deletion. The nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination. If you have an opinion on this issue, please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at ] and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. ] 00:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Eh it survived, as I assumed it would. Thanks for the heads up, even those this is a month late. ] 07:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] has been nominated for deletion == | |||
| This article has been nominated for deletion. Come participating and giving your opinion about this article ''']'''. ] 13:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] up for deletion == | |||
| Hey guys. The article ] is up for deletion. . Could you guys go over there make a convincing argument to save it? It's a popular enough phrase to be included. --] 09:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't think it is popular, nay, '''''notable''''' enough to be an article. ] 08:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == "Russian Music" in Free Willzyx and The Snuke == | |||
| This seems like the best place to raise this issue, which I feel silly to make a big deal about but I feel like it shouldn't be ignored. In both ] and ], there is a brief music cue when the boys are dealing with Russians. Someone is chanting, presumably in Russian, but it's very short and indistinct. The inspiration is obvious - any number of Cold War thrillers and action films include similar, vague music when showing scenes of Russia, the Soviet Union or Eastern Europe. Just of the top of my head, ], ] are good examples. | |||
| The problem, as I see it, is that one user in particular insists that this music is actually from ], specifically related to the character of ]. When he levitates onto the screen, there is ''similar'', indistinct chanting in the background. But there is no way to definitively identify that music with this music used in South Park. It's far too brief. The fact that the music sounds the same is an opinion, not a fact, so it cannot be confirmed simply by ear. | |||
| I have tried to remove these points from the articles and voiced my concerns on their respective talk pages, but this user doesn't want to hear me. His "evidence" is a link to videos containing the Darkstalkers music, which is irrelevant. Just because two pieces of music sound alike (which I would not even agree with in this case) I don't think it's encyclopedic to include it. South Park episode articles are already choked with "trivia" and "cultural references" as it is. --'''Do Not ] About ]''' (]) 14:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Hmmm...I've tried listening, and I can't discern what language it is. ] 07:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Then again, my knowledge of Russian is exceedingly limited, Da? ]]] 05:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] importend scale == | |||
| the "top-importence" catagory contains bigger longer and uncut, yet the talkpage of bigger longer & uncut says it is midimportence. isnt htat automated in some way?· ] ] ] 22:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Episode coverage== | |||
| The ] have recently been working on a review process for episode articles. There are a rash of articles about individual episodes which fail ], and are unlikely to ever reach such requirements. Many contributors are unaware of the specific guidelines to assess notability in episode pages: ]. We have expanded these guidelines to make them more helpful and explanatory, and we invite you to read the guidelines, and make any comments on ]. After much discussion, we have created a proposed review process for dealing with problem articles. See: ]. We invite discussion of this process on its ]. General comments about this whole process are welcome at the ]. Thanks! ] 10:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Requested move at Talk:Randy and Sharon Marsh#Requested move 24 March 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Randy and Sharon Marsh#Requested move 24 March 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ❯❯❯ Raydann 10:26, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Numerous South Park episode articles have incorrect episode numbers tampered by IP editors
Hello. We have a bit of a problem... I was steered here by someone from the help desk and they said you may be able to help.
I was going through some South Park articles and noticed that many of the Episode numbers have been messed up by IP addresses, specifically IPv6 ones. Usually each IP does only 1 edit.
I am by no means an expert but I am certain there is more of these to do.
I fixed Make Love, Not Warcraft and Mystery of the Urinal Deuce but it requires an investment in time to look at the other more than 300 episodes that have been put throughout the years and make the proper changes. Time I don't have.
I though I would bring it to your attention. Urbanracer34 (talk) 20:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
FAR for Trapped in the Closet (South Park)
I have nominated Trapped in the Closet (South Park) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 00:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Discussion at Trey Parker and Matt Stone
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Trey Parker and Matt Stone#Merge proposal, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 22:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)