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== Basketball biography infobox request ==
== Updating Progress Templates. ==


On the ], all instances of {{para|HOF_player}} and {{para|HOF_coach}} should just be {{para|HOF}} as there is no actual difference between the two. The issue can be seen on ] where both parameters are used and link to the same page. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
We would need a bot that updates progress templates (Like ]) At least once a day, the problem is that these templates almost never get updated, and therefore it is nearly impossible to know how many articles are left. ''']''' <small>]</small> 21:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:] appears to not hold to that trend, so it would appear that it is not true to say "all" instances must be changed. I will also note that there are only of both parameters even appearing in the same article, so this is too small a task for a bot (try ] or just tweak things manually). ] (]) 20:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::I meant that even single instances of {{para|HOF_player}} and {{para|HOF_coach}} should be moved to {{para|HOF}}, allowing the removal of the first two parameters within the infobox itself. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 20:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. ] (]) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::::They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the ''values'' passed to them can be different. ] (]) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per ]. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Marking for the table above that this {{BOTREQ|advertise}} ] (]) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


== Replacing FastilyBot ==
:Each progress template would have to be done separately, of course. If you specify where this data comes from, it would be easier to create the bot. &ndash; ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 16:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, this is a count of articles in a category? (Hey gurus, how do you tell how many articles are in a category anyway?) &ndash; ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 16:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
::Easiest way I know of is running AWB and getting a list from a category. It spits out the full number, regardless of paginating. <span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>]<sup></span>]]</sup>&nbsp;<em style="font-size:10px;">18:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)</em>
:write up exactly what needs updated and how you need to update it, the category counting is very simple it takes me ~15 seconds to write a bot for that. But how you want it with that template..... ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 19:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


Now that {{np|Fastily}} has retired, {{np|FastilyBot}} is no longer running. Any chance of a replacement? On the bot's deleted userpage, one can see that it ran 17 tasks and updated 31 database reports. ]] 14:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::I have been doing this manually – about once a week – for {{tl|Notability progress}} since April. I recently started also doing it for {{tl|Copyedit progress}}, {{tl|Merge progress}}, and {{tl|Wikification progress}}. I have been doing it the low-tech way ... manually clicking "next 200" for each monthly category. I know it probably sounds awful ;), but each update takes only about 10 minutes. It would be nice to have the process automated.
:I have written code to update ten database reports. – ] <small>(])</small> 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

::I have restored the userpage to ] for tracking purposes. If anyone needs any of the code from any of the subpages, please let me know. ] (]) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::On a separate note, the structures of the templates are slightly different. For instance, {{tl|Merge progress}} and {{tl|Notability progress}} are essentially identical, but both differ from {{tl|Copyedit progress}}. Then there's a template like {{tl|Wikification progress history}}. Which progress templates should this request cover? <small>If the differing formats of the templates would present a challenge to having the bot automatically update them, I could standardise the format of all except {{tl|Dead external links status}} (not organised by month) and {{tl|Wikification progress history}} (graphic archive).</small> Cheers, ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 23:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::I am taking over the following database reports: 4, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 31. – ] <small>(])</small> 17:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:::the template structure is not an issue, my question is how do I add data to them properly and keep the template from breaking. (I have no clue what im looking at) ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 01:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
:::], given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{T|Database report}}.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732040084467:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</span>

::::I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted ] (number 18 on the list) to use {{tl|database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – ] (]) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
That I can't say for certain as I have no knowledge of how to program bots. Maybe it would help to take a look at diff. Essentially, this is the only information that should change from one update to another. Let's assume we have a template that covers three categories, starting with March 2007. The relevant lines for the bot (listed below) are those that include a '#...#' paramater. <small>I don't know if surrounding a value with '#'s actually does anything ... I've just done it to highlight the fields for this example.</small>
:::::I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – ] <small>(])</small> 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::], I agree that if it's not possible or feasible to use {{T|Database report}}, it makes sense for you to handle it; but where we can, it's nice to have some kind of standardisation for the reports.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124051655:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
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:I'll look into taking over the deletion discussion notifier. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
bar:March2007
::{{BOTREQ|brfa|DatBot 12}} ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 23:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
from:0 till:#X# text: "]"
* except for database reports, let me know if I can help with any other task. —usernamekiran ] 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
bar:April2007
*:Since I'm heavily invested in the file namespace, tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17 are relevant for my work. ]] 00:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
from:#X+1# till:#X+Y# text: "]"
*::I would strongly second that tasks, 1-2, 4-12, and 14-17 are more or less essential for keeping this area running smoothly. — ]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub> 03:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
bar:May2007
*:::alright. So what tasks are remaining now? —usernamekiran ] 12:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
from:#X+Y+1# till:#X+Y+Z# text: "]"
*::::Tasks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15 and 17 are still pending. If my assistance is needed with any task, I would be happy to help with some of them. – ] <small>(])</small> 13:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

*:::::{{re|DreamRimmer}} I think {{u|Explicit}} is going to take over tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17. What I mean is, first we should make it clear who is going to tackle which task, before spending time working on it. —usernamekiran ] 14:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
bar:Total color:Total
*::::::Nope, I'm clueless in this area. Those are the tasks are the ones I would like to have kept going. ]] 14:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
from:0 till:#X+Y+Z# text:"Total: #X+Y+Z# articles remaining"
*:::::::Is the code for these tasks available somewhere? It might be fairly simple to get it up and running again.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124341240:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 17:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
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*::::::::Looks like it's availabe at https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot/blob/main/fastilybot/bots.py.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124464896:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 17:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>

*:::::::::There are also some config pages on-wiki, I think I managed to undelete them all but if one is missing let me know. ] (]) 14:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
The fields surrounded by '#' are the minimum that the bot would need to change (for purposes of simplicity, I have excluded mention of the "Unclassified" bar, which simply counts the number of pages in the main category – in this case, ] – and which can be dropped from the template altogether). So, conducting the update would require:
*:::::::Since no one is taking these, I am going to take over two tasks, Task 4 and 10. I will code these from scratch and file a BRFA in a few hours. – ] <small>(])</small> 07:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
#Counting the number of articles in each category;
*::::::::{{BOTREQ|brfa|DreamRimmer bot 2}} and {{BOTREQ|brfa|DreamRimmer bot 3}}. – ] <small>(])</small> 10:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
#Replacing the values X, Y, and Z with the updated numbers; and
===Current progress===
#Updating the rest of the figures using the new data by erforming a few computations (addition only) in order to modify the lengths of the bars.
Just creating a table below for a quick idea of which tasks (based on ]) are being handled. Please add {{5~}} at the bottom if you update things. ] (]) 12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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It would be nice if the bot could also update the date and time of the last update ... a date stamp (<nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>) should suffice. Ideally, the bot would also add a new bar for each new month as time passes. Such an update would include two steps in addition to the 3 listed above:
! Original task !! Description !! New Task
#Adding a new bar to the "BarData = " field in the form ... <code> bar:MonthYear</code> just above <code> bar:Total</code> (see )
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#Displaying the bar on the template and linking to the new category by adding the below text (which continues the example above) just above the line <code> bar:Total color:Total</code>
| ] || Replace {{tlx|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}, for local files which are already on Commons, with {{tlx|Now Commons}}.
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from:#X+Y+Z+1# till:#X+Y+Z+α# text: "]"
| ] || Remove {{tlx|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from ineligible files.
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Does that information help at all? Cheers, ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 04:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
| ] || ] on malformed ] pages.

| ]
:where X Y Z are what? ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 04:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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::Oops, sorry ... X, Y, and Z are the number of articles in the respective categories. In the example above, X is the number of articles in ], Y is the number of articles in ], and so on. -- ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 04:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
| ] || Add {{tlx|Wrong-license}} to files with conflicting (free & non-free) licensing information.

| ]
:::Ok I have an Idea of what im doing so im going to go <s>be evil</s> program some ideas. ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 22:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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::::Ok code is 95% done I just have to kill a bug before Its runnable. ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 05:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
| ] || Replace {{tlx|Now Commons}}, for local files which are nominated for deletion on Commons, with {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}}.
:::::First there was getting an inanimate entity to do things for you and now squashing bugs ... this smacks of ]. ;) A quick question, please: would it be easy to make the bot update progress templates (using the same structure as above) other than the ones that have been discussed so far? In particular, I'm thinking of creating progress templates for ], ], and ]. The latter two each contain 70000+ articles, so I doubt I'll create them if I have to update them manually. Cheers, ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 18:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
| ]

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:New templates will be very easy Im just fighting a error (computer bug) with ] text, Im hoping to correct that tonight. So once I get this fixed we can move on to other templates. ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 19:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
| ] || Replace {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}}, for local files which have been deleted on Commons, with {{tlx|Deleted on Commons}}.
::Great, thanks! Best of luck with the ], ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 19:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
| ]
::If you get frustrated and want to hand this off, Betacommand, I offer to take over. (I was coming here to work on this, actually, before I saw you were on top of it.) Or if you've got it, that's cool. &ndash; ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 15:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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| ] || Remove {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}} from files which are no longer nominated for deletion on Commons.
Ok I need a list of stuff:
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examples taken from: {{tl|Notability progress}}
| ] || Fill in missing <code>date</code> parameter for ] usages of {{tlx|Now Commons}}.
# list of templates
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# for each template I need the
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<nowiki>{{Tnavbar-header|'''Notability Progress'''|Notability progress|bgcolor=#cccff}}</nowiki> line
| ] || Post various database ] to ].
#and the main category to check for each template. ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 19:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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I am listing below 5 of the 7 progress templates in ]; the structure of the other two is substantially different (as noted above, one is not even organised by month).
| ] || Remove instances of {{Tlx|FFDC}} which reference files that are no longer being discussed at ].

| ]
;]
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:<nowiki>{{Tnavbar-header|'''Categorization Progress'''|Categorization progress|bgcolor=#ccccff}}</nowiki>
| ] || Remove {{Tlx|Now Commons}} from file description pages which also translcude {{Tlx|Keep local}}
:]
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ].
:<nowiki>{{Tnavbar-header|'''Copyedit Progress'''|Copyedit progress|bgcolor=#ccccff}}</nowiki>
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:]
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| ] || Remove {{tlx|Orphan image}} from ] files which are not orphaned.
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:<nowiki>{{Tnavbar-header|'''Merge Progress'''|Merge progress|bgcolor=#cccff}}</nowiki>
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ].

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:<nowiki>{{Tnavbar-header|'''Notability Progress'''|Notability progress|bgcolor=#cccff}}</nowiki>
| ] || Add {{tlx|Orphan image}} to orphaned free files.
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ].
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for article authors (who were not notified) when their contributions are proposed for deletion.
If there is a problem with the structure of any of the templates, I'd be happy to change its format to approximate {{tl|Notability progress}}, which I assume is the one you worked off of. It'll probably be easier to change the template format (it shouldn't take more than 1-2 minutes per template) than change the code for the bot. Cheers, ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 20:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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Has the bug been resolved? ''']''' <small>]</small> 21:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

:All the major bugs have been solved. ill work on getting it out within the next 36 hours. ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 21:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC) :Hi. Since nobody's taking them, I'm gonna try working on tasks 5 and 15. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 02:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
::Awesome! Thank you! ''']''' <small>]</small> 13:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Betacommand passed the source off to me, as he's kinda strapped for free time right now. I'm finishing up a few things, and I should be ready in the next day or so with it. <span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>]<sup></span>]]</sup>&nbsp;<em style="font-size:10px;">00:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)</em>

It has been a few days now. Is the bot having any troubles? '''-]''' <small>]</small> 17:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

:Any news? <small>I'm posting mostly so that this section won't be automatically archived (it's seen no activity for almost 5 days).</small> -- ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 23:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

As you can see, I made a successful run on ] today. I'll set the rest up tomorrow, hopefully. <span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>]<sup></span>]]</sup>&nbsp;<em style="font-size:10px;">22:57, 25 June 2007 (UTC)</em>

:Great! Thanks. By the way, the bot seems to have removed ] from ]. Was that accidental or is that necessary for the bot to function? -- ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 19:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

::Accidental, sorry. I'll fix it when I get back to the code tomorrow (it's on a server at work). <span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>]<sup></span>]]</sup>&nbsp;<em style="font-size:10px;">19:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)</em>
Ok, it's running on ], ], and ] just fine. I'll plug the last 2 in after lunch. As I don't want to run this on my main bot account and I'm starting a second one, how often do we want to update these when I put a BRFA in? <span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>]<sup></span>]]</sup>&nbsp;<em style="font-size:10px;">15:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)</em>
:It's working fine on ], but there are some issues with the other two. For ], the bot also counted ], which is redundant to all of the monthly ones. For ], I think you may want to work off of ] to avoid problems. -- ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 16:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::As for updating frequency ... once a day should probably be enough, but Flubeca may something different in mind. Thanks, by the way, for working on this. Cheers, ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 16:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::Once a day is good.-]<sup>]</sup> 03:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
::Oh and when will the other 2 be implemented. -]<sup>]</sup> 03:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
By the way, the ] is also having a double counting problem similar to the copyedit progress chart. Thanks for implementing this. --] 10:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== WP:Yu-Gi-Oh! ==

Hi can some botuser please notify all members at ] for the new reform proposal by me, thanks ] --] 06:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:No. That's what WikiProject talk pages are for; all WikiProject members should have them watchlisted, because that's where discussion relating to the WikiProject's administration goes. A bot doesn't need to deliver this message to 31 users' talk pages just in case they're not paying attention to the WikiProject of which they are a member. &mdash; ] (] &ndash; ]) 06:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

::You might look at ] and ] - these will deliver "newsletters" to WikiProject members. But in general, we don't use (or allow) bots here to replace watchlists and talk pages. Otherwise user pages would be deluged with bot postings.

::The standard process is to post a reform proposal on a project talk page, then see what others think. If you get consensus, then you can make changes as proposed. If you get no response whatsoever, then you should make a small, initial change, to see how others react (or if anyone cares). If you get significant disagreement from those who are actively watching the talk page, then you should take it as a sign that your reform proposal either needs modification or to be dropped altogether. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 13:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Combo between random article and watchlist? ==

Sorry if it's in the archive, but as dedicated as I am, I can't see skimming 12 archives before posting this idea. I wonder if someone could create (or has created) a bot that would work like the "random article" function, but would serve up an article from a list that the user maintains. I have a watchlist, but there are many articles in it that are only there because I'd like to remember to read through them again and see if I could come up with improvements; therefore, if no one changes them, my watchlist isn't going to remind me of them. It'd be handy if there were a bot that simply served up, on demand, one of the articles I've marked so that I remembered to go back over it again and see what I could add or improve. ] 05:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I don't understand. Why not just go to and randomly pick one yourself? --] 06:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::You mean ]? &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&lt;&thinsp;'']''&thinsp;&gt; 06:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::To '''Android mouse''': (1) Just FYI, the redirect you provided is the version of the watchlist that shows ''changes''; as I mentioned, that's not going to remind me of ones no one changed. (2) I don't want actually to ''watch'' all of the pages that I would have on the list I'd make for the bot; I watch pages where I want to catch vandalism, etc., and I can't watch them well if there are too many. I would want to be able to make a separate list for the articles that I want to revisit and improve, then have a way to make slogging through it a little easier. (3) Even if I created a separate list as raised in point #2, I'm not a machine and can't keep track easily of which pages, out of 963, I have or haven't revisited recently (that's the current length of my watchlist, WITHOUT all the pages I'd like to go back and add to). '(4) As I mentioned in point #2, my watchlist is distinct from this list; most of my watchlist wouldn't go on this list, because most of my watchlist is about eliminating vandalism or inaccuracies quickly, on articles to which I couldn't really make much improvement or addition to existing content.
:::To '''Shinhan''': No, I know that I can edit the listing ''itself'' &mdash; that's how I got it back down under 1,000. I'm talking about something to help me cycle through editing the ''articles''. ] 08:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC) P.S. Nonetheless, thanks for responding constructively!
::::My suggestion was not to edit the watchlist but to use that list and a random number generator to find a random article from that page.
::::Ok, second suggestion. You would first have to make a page in your userspace that would list every article you wish to random-watch. Something like ]. You would use # to make a numbered list from that. Next, you use some kind or random number generator (like ) to generate a number between 1 and <number_of_article_on_your_randomwatchlist_page>. The random number that is generated would mean you should edit the article on that line.
::::Example: Your RandomWatchList page has 127 articles on it and random number generator gives number 73. So, you go and edit the 73rd article on your RandomWatchList page. (Since its a numbered list shouldnt be hard to find it).
::::Thats easy version. If you want something more complicated you could also program your own bot...&mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&lt;&thinsp;'']''&thinsp;&gt; 13:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:are these lists category based? ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 05:53, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== WikiProject Netherlands ==

Is there a bot available to add {{tl|WikiProject Netherlands}} to all articles in the ] tree that don't yet have the WikiProject tag? The only category <s>not included in</s> specifically excluded from this request is ] and its 13 subcategories, as they will be processed manually. Please let me know if this request is incomplete. ]]<sup>]</sup> 19:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I have some concerns regarding this task. I just went through the category tree to get a feeling of how many articles we're talking about here. Long story short, I stopped somewhere around the 11,000 article mark (obviously including subcategories of subcategories and, since I don't have a dd available right now, not accounting for articles that are already tagged). I realize the scope of your project is broad and I know we have much bigger bot tasks but 11,000+ articles just seems too much for a banner tagging task. We already have a problem with overtagging and most of these articles are likely to be within the scope of one or even a few other projects. --] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 22:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::Perhaps the bot could skip the page if it already has so many tags at the top? --] 23:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps this is a silly question, but what if I were to split the request? Say I request that the articles in ] be tagged this week, ] in two weeks time, etcetera, say 1,000 articles per request or per week. It doesn't address the issue of overtagging, but would it address the issue of size? ]]<sup>]</sup> 23:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::I'd probably be easier to request it all at once since once a bot is set to do it, there is little to no interaction needed for it to finish. As I said above, perhaps it could skip the page if there are already 2 or so tags at the top of the page? --] 00:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't know if the code is set to allow the bot to do it, pardon my ignorance, but is it possible to list the untagged/skipped articles somewhere? That would allow us to check the articles manually, to determine whether adding {{tl|Wikiproject Netherlands}} would indeed be overtagging. I did see such datadumps by BetacommandBot once or twice, iirc. ]]<sup>]</sup> 00:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, it'd be possible to list which were skipped. --] 00:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::In that case I have no objections to skipping articles that have already got n (2?) wikiproject templates. ]]<sup>]</sup> 00:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I am generating lists of subcats and articles, now and will post links later. If you want a bot run i can exclude all talk pages with templates already on them, that is the most common method to avoid over tagging. ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 01:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I only went 5 levels into that cat but here are my results: and (note the article is running now give it some time to finish) ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 02:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:Please do, and if possible, as discussed above, please notify us (e.g. via a subpage of my userpage) which talk pages weren't tagged, so that we can add the WikiProject template manually if necessary. ]]<sup>]</sup> 00:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== WikiProject Rugby league ==

Can a bot, tag all articles within ] (and subcategories) a '''needs-infobox=yes''' and '''autotemplate=yes''' on the talk page {{template|WikiProject Rugby league}} as a parameter, if the infobox {{template|Infobox rugby league biography}} does '''not''' appear on the page.

That may be a bit confusing so simply
*If in ] = Yes
*If {{template|Infobox rugby league biography}} = No
*On talk page tag '''needs-infobox=yes''' and '''autotemplate=yes''' to {{template|WikiProject Rugby league}} parameter.

<span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 21:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

:Will anyone reply? <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 21:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::I can do it. If the {{t1|WikiProject Rugby league}} template isn't on the talk page, should the bot add it? --] 23:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:::All the pages should be tagged, unless they were created after 17 June, 07. which they might. Yes it would be alright if the bot did that. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 06:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Ok. I'll let this sit for one more day before I start, incase anyone else has comments/objections/anything else to add. --] 06:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::OK, but I don't know why there will be a big objection. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 07:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

], if there are already ] in a {{tl|WikiProjectBannerShell}}, will the bot nest the new banner within the shell? See ] for a PCRE regular expression replace that will do the job. &mdash; ] (] &ndash; ]) 17:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for pointing this out, I wasn't even aware of the bannershell, I'll make sure it adds it to that, if it is there. Unfourtunetly I won't be able to use the regular expression you provided though since I use C. --] 18:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Well, you can do the same thing in any language; just . There's contributed source code, including C++ wrappers and sample Makefiles , and everything else you might need is . I've used the PCRE library successfully in plenty of C, C++, and C# applications.
::Just a tip. I don't know how you can live without regular expressions; I can't. ;) &mdash; ] (] &ndash; ]) 18:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Neat, I'll check that out. Now all I have to do is figure out how regular expression work :) --] 18:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
{{done}} --] 19:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Add references tag when none exists ==

If an article has inline <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags, but no <nowiki><references/></nowiki> tag, a bot should add one. (Of course, a more fundamental change that completely changes the citation system would be better...) — ] 00:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:A good idea (though I'm not sure if the problem is that common), but implementation is a bit tricker than looking for just one thing. ] is another way of displaying references/footnotes, and for all I know there may be others, so a bot needs to look for a variety of things. Also, I've seen the references tag with an extra space before the slash, so I suggest the bot look for the text string "<references". -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 13:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Bot Request ==

Is this the place where I can ask someone to create a antivandalism bot for another wiki? Because on the Wiki I edit on, we have no knowledge on how to make a bot. So if someone can help me, our Wiki would be grateful. :) ] 21:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:talk to ] & ] ] <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 21:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks for the suggestions, but both seem to be on a leave. Anyone here active to help me out? XD I would be appreciate it. :) ] 00:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Leaving a short, polite message and waiting for a reply is really your best option. If you need the source code for one of the bots, you really need to talk the coders themselves. --] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Template:S-cite, Template:S-pol ==

Unlike other succession box templates that seem to have sparked a limited controversy over at ], these two are relatively unambiguous and have on their side what is closest to consensus (given the current state of the project). I thus request:
#That ] should be replaced by ] in all articles in the main namespace. The two templates have already been merged and the former redirects to the latter, which is in compliance with SBS's three-letter name rule (while still retaining the ability of the name to be easily interpreted) and was initially included in the ''s-ref'' anyway. The change is a simple one: change <nowiki>{{s-cite|...}} in all succession boxes to {{s-ref|...}}</nowiki>. No complications whatsoever should ensue, as both templates work in the exact same way.
#That ] should be replaced by ] (parameter ''|pol'') in all articles in the main namespace. The two templates are headers, which makes the change even easier: all that has to be done is change <nowiki>{{s-pol}} to {{s-civ|pol}}</nowiki> in all succession boxes; the resulting headers will be identical. The change has been decided because a whole template just for police appointments is considered superfluous, given the relatively low number of offices that are to use it, while a more general header like "Civic offices" (with parameters for police, fire, and medical appointments) will prove more efficient, helping us reach the desired balance between a low number of templates and specific, useful headers.
I believe this change cannot be achieved by any means other than by bot (unless a great deal of time and effort is spend on the task), and is justifiable enough to be approved. The two templates are to be deleted after the change is done, so any help with speeding this process up would be greatly appreciated. ], <small>]</small> 23:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:2. So why dont you redirect ] to S-civ|pol <nowiki>::</nowiki> ] :: ] 23:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Because that's impossible, ]. As for #1, I see no need for a bot to perform this task. ]. &mdash; ] (] &ndash; ]) 05:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Aah sorry. Was getting my sections and my seperators all confuddled. It should be easy enough for a bit to do. <nowiki>::</nowiki> ] :: ] 06:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::::But... Wouldn't it be better to get rid of a spare template than just hide it? I thought templates placed a burden on Misplaced Pages servers.
::::In any case, will you at least do number two, please? ], <small>]</small> 18:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::]. I could create a task request, but I'd like to see some evidence of consensus. &mdash; ] (] &ndash; ]) 23:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::We are gathering consensus; it was not easy to discern previously. I will notify you when we gather sufficient support. ], <small>]</small> 13:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

== Comparison articles into searchable databases ==

What open-source text editors that run on both Windows and Linux support both Regex search-and-replace and UTF-8 encoding? This is the sort of question the tool I'm requesting (probably on the toolserver or offsite) could answer by reading the tables in Misplaced Pages comparison articles. The tool would load all the tables from each comparison article, find the common column and merge them into one database table per article internally, and then provide an interface for search queries to these tables. ]] 19:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't understand what you mean by "comparison articles", don't understand why you're posting on this page, and don't understand where the results of the table merges would be housed (or, if you will, how interested readers/users would find the tables). Wouldn't ] or ] or ] be a better place to post this? -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 17:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


:Thanks for volunteering :) – ] <small>(])</small> 03:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
== Categories bot request ==
:updated task 17 with KiranBOT 14. —usernamekiran ] 23:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:I've claimed the malformed SPI task. My bot will be an ] for this task and not require BRFA because it will just report malformed SPIs to ], which will then be displayed on the malformed SPIs page in projectspace through a template and Lua module, similar to my AfC bot (botreq by JJPMaster below). ] <sup>]]</sup> 06:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::Completed & running continously (it watches RecentChanges) on Toolforge :) See ]. ] <sup>]]</sup> 08:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
: working on FastilyBot 5 "add {{tlx|Wrong-license}} to files", will file BRFA when code is ready. —usernamekiran ] 03:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Deletion of navboxes at ] ==
We need a bot to keep a check on the articles in certain video games subcategories to make sure that all these articles are in their respective immediate parent categories too as per ]. I've done my best over the past week or two to try to get these standardised, but there's always going to be new articles that won't be. The relevant sub-cats are:


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Requesting for bot help to nominate 156 navboxes for deletion (listed above). These navboxes are for teams that finished lower than third place in the Olympic basketball tournaments. Such templates are subject to ] and were previously deleted per ], ], ], and March 29, 2019 (], ] and ]) discussions (to name a few). – ] 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{small|Maybe one day I'll complete ] and things like this will be much easier.}}<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732123946046:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt">—&nbsp;]] 17:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
::It is very easy to list these templates at TFD as a batch. Someone with AWB should be able to help you apply the correct TFD template to all of them. Notification of the templates' creators might also be not-too-hard with AWB, especially if you provide a list of those editors. – ] (]) 22:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:Ill tag them, if I could get the editors users ill notify as well. {{working}} with AWB. ] (]) 23:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Geardona}}, have you completed this task? Thanks! (I'm trying to sort out all the discussions and either make the bot to do them, or close them). ] <sup>]]</sup> 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years ==
(obviously, the relevant parents are ], ], ], ], ], ] and ].


There are presumably hundreds of articles about calendar years (for example, ]) that contain the text "link will display the full calendar".
Cheers, ''''']''''' 22:52, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


I believe this text violates the spirit of ], specifically:
:That sounds reasonable. How often would you need the articles to be checked? -- ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 23:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


: phrases like "click here" should be avoided In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia
::I don't really know how often bots usually do their work, but I don't think it would need to be that often, just a check every now and then. It's not the most urgent of tasks after all. Cheers, ''''']''''' 23:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Alright. I'll go through those articles tomorrow unless there are any concerns or objections and we'll go from there. -- ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 00:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


The text "link will display the full calendar" would of course make no sense in a print encyclopedia, so I think it should be deleted. Given the number of articles that this text appears in, this deletion would best be done by a bot. ] (]) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Ok, thanks S. ''''']''''' 00:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
:A total of pages use this wording. – ] <small>(])</small> 07:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::], ], this has been discussed before at ].<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732964905546:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::It has also been raised a number of times at ] including following the linked BOTREQ (], ], ]), all of which were asking to remove it (without reply). Suffice to say, I think per ] there is a general lack of concern about whether this text is removed. Unless there is any significant opposition raised here in the next few days, I would be okay putting in a BRFA to remove the offending text. ] (]) 22:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
::::If it hasn't been done already, I'd also suggest doing a few dozen "by hand" first, to see if that provokes any objection. I don't expect it will. ] (]) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Easy enough to mass-rollback, I just forgot I was planning on doing this. ] (]) 16:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{BOTREQ|done}} by the way. ] (]) 12:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


== Province over-capitalization ==
Seeing that this had been announced on the relevant category talk pages about half a month ago with no objections raised and considering that it is in line with the guideline, I'm going ahead and adding the parent category to those articles that aren't already in it. -- ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 15:13, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


See ] and ] (just started). There are over 50,000 articles with over-capitalized ''Province'' since ] that moved all the Iranian province titles to lowercase. Assuming the project discussion doesn't turn up resistance to fixing, many of these would be easily amenable to bot fixing, like the task that ] did for NFL ''Draft'' over-capitalization. ] (]) 18:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
:Okay, {{done}} I think checking again every month or so should be enough. If there's an unusually high number of games coming out at some point (like right before or after E3 or something), please don't hesistate to contact me. -- ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 16:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


Actually, there's not much activity at WikiProject Iran, so if anyone wants to see this discussed more, point me at a better place to bring it up. ] (]) 04:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, that's great. Cheers! ''''']''''' 17:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


I did a bunch of these by hand on Dec. 6 (). No reaction from anyone. ] (]) 04:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
== Link fixing ==


{{ping|Bsoyka|DreamRimmer}} Thank you both for volunteering to help if/when we see clear consensus or a closed discussion on this. Does anyone have a good idea how to provoke more response? All I've got so far is silence. The big RM was similarly quiet, with no opposition and just 2 supports. ] (]) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Can someone change instances of <code>wagn</code> to <code>WAGN</code>, <code>'one'</code> and <code>‘one’</code> (strictly those ''including'' the single quotes) to <code>One Railway</code> wherever they appear? Articles have been moved, and the previous forms are counter to the MoS on ] ]. I imagine uses of 'one' with the quotes not referring to the railway company to be few and far between. ] 20:38, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
:This is why bots go through trials; not only does it allow for the bot operator to demonstrate that their bot operates as intended, it gives users the opportunity to give feedback on the task. If this is a potentially contentious task, we can have the bots not mark the edits as minor during the trial to raise more awareness of it prior to acceptance. ] (]) 22:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, a trial not marked minor is a good idea beyond the bunch I did by hand not marked minor. Are you prepared to approve such a trial? Bsoyka has a bot that's got demonstrated competence at doing such things, while avoiding purely cosmetic edits. ] (]) 02:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


I've got no response at the discussion I opened at the project. Is it OK to move forward with bot approval process? ] (]) 19:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== image replacer bot ==


{{ping|Bsoyka|DreamRimmer}} would either of you be willing to file an RFBA on this now, or should I try to provoke discussion elsewhere? ] (]) 23:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
need a bot to replace all articles that link this image http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Heinrich_Himmler%2C_Richard_Heydrich%2C_Karl_Wolf.JPG
to the newer and better one
http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Vlcsnap-5522132.png
:{{tick}} '''Done''' —<span style="color: red;">] (])</span> 04:23, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


:{{u|Dicklyon}}, you can file a ] yourself if you are seeking approval to use AWB for this. I recommend the easy-brfa.js script linked on the page. :) ] <sup>]]</sup> 03:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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::I am not seeking to use AWB for this, but for someone else to do so. ] (]) 07:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't know if a bot can do it, and I don't think so. But can a bot tag every link on this page ] with ].


== Tagging ] ==
I have removed any un-nessasary links from the page (temporarly) so that all links should be there. But it shouldn't repeat the task if a link is there twice, because there are alot there. It shouldn't also have any there that are red links, because there are quite a few, and you can't have an article with just a category. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 12:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


Hello, I would like to kindly request that all articles, categories, files, etc. within the ] be tagged with the newly created ]. This will help streamline efforts to improve the quality and coverage of Israeli cinema-related content on Misplaced Pages.
:That's something a bot could definitely do. Is there a particular reason why you want to turn the list into a category and is there consensus that this should be done? --] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:I just noticed that you want to sort by state of origin. That makes it somewhat more error-prone and a bit less trivial to do automatically. Frankly, I also don't really see the need since most player's articles already ''are'' sorted by nationality (ie. ], etc). Is there a specific reason why you want to do this?-- ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


Please exclude the following subcategories, as they may include films that are not necessarily Israeli and these categories include biographies (which are not part of WP Film):
::Because if you notice most players are by nationally of that 1/20th would actually be state of origin players. I want to do this so it is easy to understand from a players point of view wether they played state of origin or not, by looking at the categories. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 20:54, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
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I saw the request above on Belgian films and used it as a template for my request.
:::Can someone reply please. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 21:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. ] (]) 05:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


: query with depth of 5 returns 1003 articles. I have checked a few random ones, and they seem fine. @], can you please go through some random articles and let me know if there are any that should be removed from the list? – ] <small>(])</small> 15:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:Stupid archiving, I'm re asking this as nobody replyed. I wouldn't have if someone said '''No''' but I think it should be done. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 10:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
{{Strikethroughdiv|::Hold on with the bot. I need to remove people pages from the category as they aren't supposed to be in the film task force category. I will list a few that should not be included or we can manually remove later--:
::Tel Aviv University
::ICon festival
::Jinni (search engine)
::Kibbutzim College}}
::- ] (]) 20:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::I updated the bot request to not include biographies. If you run it now with the new parameters and exclude the following four pages then everything should be good to be tagged. @]
::Tel Aviv University
::ICon festival
::Jinni (search engine)
::Kibbutzim College
::- ] (]) 21:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@]: updated query shows 356 pages. If we remove these four, there will be 352 pages left to edit. Can you please confirm, so that I can tag them? – ] <small>(])</small> 14:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Yes, this is a good list. Please tag them. Thank you. ] (]) 16:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Hi, I am finding that the depth isn't high enough to tag many films. Can you run another query on this category? ]
::::And exclude this category: ]
::::- ] (]) 18:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{done}} Tagged . – ] <small>(])</small> 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi, thank you for tagging those 334 pages.
::::::In my previous comment, I mentioned that the initial query doesn't have a depth which reaches important articles. The query you ran missed important films like ] and ].
::::::Can you run the query again but on this category: ]
::::::And exclude this category: ]
::::::Thank you.
::::::- ] (]) 16:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@]: Can you please tell me which depth is correct? – ] <small>(])</small> 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::: finds the missing films. ] (]) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::There are many articles, such as ] and ], that do not belong to the Cinema of Israel. There are many such articles. If you can provide me with the correct query or a list, I can help. – ] <small>(])</small> 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Hounds of War is made by an Israeli director so it should be included. Some films have Israeli producers. You are correct that the other pages shouldn't be included. I reduced the depth to "2" and it fixes it. . - ] (]) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::@]: This list contains some articles that do not belong to Israeli cinema, and some users have complained about it. The good thing is that I have only tagged a few from the second query. Please create a correct list; otherwise, I will not be able to assist with this. I am going to revert the last few changes. – ] <small>(])</small> 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Do you not want to include foreign films made by Israeli directors and producers? They don't need to be included. ] (]) 20:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== Bot to simplify "ref name" content ==
::Actually, I did reply on your talkpage. The question still stands: does the ] agree that this should be done or not?-- ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 10:52, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


I have come across some very long ref names in ref tags, sometimes automatically generated by incorporating the title of the work that is being referenced, which is disfavored by ], which asks that reference names be kept "short and simple" to avoid clutter. A ref name is nothing more than a piece of code by which to identify a reference, and can be as short as "A1" or the like. However, according to this search generously provided by ], {{search link|1=insource:ref insource:/\< *ref *name *= *{76}/}}, there are over 1,600 Misplaced Pages articles containing ref names that are over 75 characters in length, which is ridiculous. I have started hand-fixing these, and that is arduous, and I suspect bot-fixable. I would therefore like a bot that checks each page for ref names over the length of some set number of characters, perhaps something is short as 30 or 40 characters, and where a ref name is excessively long, shorten it to a more reasonable length (that does not match any existing names on the page).
:::Yeah I know you did, but this was archived when its was still active dissucussion. On ] under the "Bot request" section, I have posted a message to fellow Rugby league members. It was posted 5 days ago (on 28 June), but has been no reply. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white"><small>''']''' ''']'''</small></span> 11:04, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Okay, let's give this another 24 hours. -- ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 10:15, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::This is a fairly trivial request, so I don't see why the operation needs consensus, especially from a low-activity group. In any case, the operation can be reversed very quickly and easily, If needed, I've hacked together a simple script with error checking to do the tagging, in case anyone else hasn't configured a bot to do it yet, so if the bot is needed and the task gets approval let me know and I'll run the operation. (Of course, its practically an AWB job...) SpecialWindler: Bots can do practically anything these days =) --] ] 13:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


In the course of this search, I have also come across quite a few ref names that contain complete urls, <nowiki>]</nowiki> terms as would appear in linked text, and various non-standard characters or text usually used for formatting. I would like any instance of brackets, use of "http://" or "https://" or characters outside of the English alphanumeric set of letters, numbers, and basic punctuation to be stripped out or replaced with characters in that set. ] ] 03:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== NFL -> National Football League ==
:I'm not sure I'd support bot-shortnening without seeing a demo of it. This seems to be more in the wheelhouse of semi-automated fixes. I'm opened to be convinced though. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 03:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:: A ref name is not article text. It is literally just a signal to allow multiple uses of a reference. We could replace every ref name in the encyclopedia with a random string of three or four letters/numbers, so long as each ref name was unique within its article, and it would not change their functionality at all. Granted, there are some projects (like those working on comic book movies) where they craft ref names for more informative purposes, but where this is done, the ref names are never excessively long or made with brackets, URLs, or exotic characters. The only thing an excessively long or convoluted ref name accomplishes is reduce usability and clutter up the Wikitext wherever it is used. ] ] 03:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::See also ] which is an awesome tool for quickly renaming all refs in a given article. -- ]] 04:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: {{re|GreenC}} Does it rename ''all'' of them? I am just concerned about the ridiculous ones (see, e.g., ). ] ] 04:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::: (edit conflict) Kudos on the fixes you've done already. One point of ] is that reference names should have semantic value (not, for example "A1" or a random string of characters). It doesn't make the slightest difference to the reader, of course, but makes it easier for human editors to cite the correct source. Are you familiar with ]? I use it to replace reference names like ":0" and "auto1" with reasonably short but meaningful names, and it makes the replacement process a lot easier. It could simplify the task of replacing obscenely long reference names with much shorter ones, although it's still a by-hand tool, not a bot. It only changes the ones you tell it to. --] (]) 04:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: I'll check it out, thanks. However, with thousands of articles having excessively long ref names, there is still likely an advantage for having a bot do some of this lifting. ] ] 04:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::: I might be able to do it manually with this tool, but it does not always actually shorten the name, sometimes it just formats it. This should work on the worst cases, though. ] ] 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::I think it should be possible to use the code from RefRenamer in combination with ] to run it semi-automatically.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1735913606012:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 14:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)</span>
: Seems like a good example of ] to me. While "Author year" style, for example, will probably work well for types of sources where an author usually only publishes one per year, it won't work all that well for others. And personally I wish people would make more use of naming conventions that are more likely to be globally unique rather than less, often enough I've seen multiple articles on related topics that all cite different articles from a website and, since each only uses one article, the website's name gets used as the ref name, which has led to accidental bad refs if content is copy-pasted between the articles. ]] 15:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::That's a good point about copying to other articles. "Authorlastname" is usually sufficient, if not then "Authorlastname YYYY-MM". Likewise the citation should have {{para|last}} as the first field so it's easy to visually find. I've found these two methods (with RefRenamer) are my current best practice. -- ]] 16:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::: Even so, I think we can all agree that it is bad to have ref names like:
:::* "Legitimate politics : a source of codification between theory and practice: A fundamental study of the uniting unity between politics and jurisprudence"
:::* "urlThe Alkaloids of Tabernanthe iboga. Part IV.1 The Structures of Ibogamine, Ibogaine, Tabernanthine and Voacangine - Journal of the American Chemical Society (ACS Publications)"
:::* "Dr. Coburn Stands for Science:Opposes Congressional efforts to honor debunked author linked to failed global malaria control"
::: That said, I have played around with the ref renamer tool pointed out be ] and ], and I do think that I can use it to handle this task without needing a bot. ] ] 18:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::As such, {{withdrawn}} by requester. ] (]) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC) <small> I have amended the template used in this comment because it was causing errors. The BOTREQ template does not have a "withdrawn" option. ] <sup>]]</sup> 08:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC) </small>
:::: I don't agree those are bad, at least not for the reason you think they are. The second should drop the odd "url" prefix and the third could use a space after the colon if they're going to be titled like that, but if editors of an article find it useful to use the full title of a work as its ref name then 🤷 why should we care? I've seen you ]. ]] 15:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::::: Sortname redirects do not sit in the article's Wikitext, making it difficult to see where the reference even begins and ends. I literally just removed a "ref name=The Edinburgh Gazetteer: Or, Geographical Dictionary: Containing a Description of the Various Countries, Kingdoms, States, Cities, Towns, Mountains, &c. of the World; an Account of the Government, Customs, and Religion of the Inhabitants; the Boundaries and Natural Productions of Each Country, &c. &c. Forming a Complete Body of Geography, Physical, Political, Statistical, and Commercial with Addenda, Containing the Present State of the New Governments in South America..."; and a "ref name=" Arrivée officielle à Sapiac de @Dylan_Sage11 pour la saison prochaine! Médaille de bronze aux Jeux Olympiques de Rio 2016, 134 sélections pour 155 points, il arrive pour renforcer l'effectif de l'USM et faire vibrer la @rugbyprod2 #AllezSapiac". ] ] 04:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)


== Lowercasing the word "romanized" ==
We could use a bot to fix links to the following pages:
:*] (as opposed to ])
:*] and all prior pages included in ] (as opposed to ].
:*] and all prior pages included in ] (as opposed to ])
:*] and all prior pages included in ] (as opposed to ]) ] 22:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


I've never done this before, but I've noticed a rather annoying issue that no human has the time to sort out manually. (Incidentally, my request is very similar to another active one.) There are thousands of stubs on Iranian locations that have the word "romanized" needlessly capitalised mid-sentence (apparently all mass-created by the same now-retired user). I'm not sure exactly how to track all of them down, but see categories like Sarbisheh County geography stubs or Qom province geography stubs. ] 23:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Are you requesting that the redirects be replaced by the actual page? If so, you might wish to read ]. --] 23:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
:It looks like there may be around pages, though there might be some valid uses in there (beginnings of sentences, Title Case, etc). ] (]) 13:20, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:That would make sense, then. My bad. ] 23:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think this is a comprehensive list (indeed, many of them use "Romanized" in a different sense and most seem correct in doing so). The stub articles on Iranian villages I'm referencing all follow the same basic layout and all appear to be miscapitalising the word in the exact same spot. There have to be tens of thousands — I seem to land on one at least every twenty presses of the "random article" button. ] 18:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::That is a case-sensitive regex search; it will only return capital-R-Romanized. If they aren't on that list, then they don't exist. Next time you see examples please post them here. ] (]) 19:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm getting this message on my end: {{tq|A warning has occurred while searching: The regex search timed out, so only partial results are available. Try simplifying your regular expression to get complete results.}} If there are indeed only 820 instances in all of Misplaced Pages, then that means that the chance of landing on any article with uppercase "Romanized" when hitting "random article" should be around 0.01%. It happens to me with fair consistency. Does it seem plausible that I'm getting these at several hundred times the normal rate? ] 20:39, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::So you're clicking the random article button, and landing on dozens of Iranian villages (of which you still haven't given any examples)? That seems more unlikely than there being mysteriously thousands of articles not showing up on a search. ] (]) 20:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Are you suggesting that I'm lying about something this mundane and pointless? Here are six examples of articles I have randomly landed on and corrected: ], ], ], ], and ] (check the edit history if you need proof). If your numbers are correct, these six articles represent around 0.7% of all articles that use(d) "Romanized" (for comparison, they're around 0.00008% of all English Misplaced Pages articles). ] 21:43, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::No, I was not suggesting you were lying, I was trying to discover the mismatch between what you were saying and what I was seeing. I was searching for <code>Romanized</code>, while the text you are seeing is <code><nowiki>]d</nowiki></code>, which are two very different things. gives ~41k pages. ] (]) 09:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Probably worth letting {{tl|langx}} handle this like . ] (]) 09:35, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::That would probably also reduce or remove a lot of the CONTEXTBOT issues I was envisioning. ] (]) 09:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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Basketball biography infobox request

On the basketball biography infobox, all instances of |HOF_player= and |HOF_coach= should just be |HOF= as there is no actual difference between the two. The issue can be seen on Lenny Wilkens where both parameters are used and link to the same page. ~ Dissident93 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Bill Sharman appears to not hold to that trend, so it would appear that it is not true to say "all" instances must be changed. I will also note that there are only 79 instances of both parameters even appearing in the same article, so this is too small a task for a bot (try WP:AWBREQ or just tweak things manually). Primefac (talk) 20:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
I meant that even single instances of |HOF_player= and |HOF_coach= should be moved to |HOF=, allowing the removal of the first two parameters within the infobox itself. ~ Dissident93 20:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. Primefac (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ Dissident93 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the values passed to them can be different. Primefac (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per Bill Sharman. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ Dissident93 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Marking for the table above that this Needs wider discussion. NotAG on AWB (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Replacing FastilyBot

Now that Fastily has retired, FastilyBot is no longer running. Any chance of a replacement? On the bot's deleted userpage, one can see that it ran 17 tasks and updated 31 database reports. ✗plicit 14:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I have written code to update ten database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I have restored the userpage to Special:Permalink/1258404221 for tracking purposes. If anyone needs any of the code from any of the subpages, please let me know. Primefac (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I am taking over the following database reports: 4, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 31. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
DreamRimmer, given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{Database report}}. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates (number 18 on the list) to use {{database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
DreamRimmer, I agree that if it's not possible or feasible to use {{Database report}}, it makes sense for you to handle it; but where we can, it's nice to have some kind of standardisation for the reports. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
I'll look into taking over the deletion discussion notifier. DatGuyContribs 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
BRFA filed DatGuyContribs 23:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Current progress

Just creating a table below for a quick idea of which tasks (based on Special:Permalink/1258404221) are being handled. Please add ~~~~~ at the bottom if you update things. Primefac (talk) 12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Original task Description New Task
1 Replace {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}, for local files which are already on Commons, with {{Now Commons}}. CanonNiBot 1
2 Remove {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from ineligible files. CanonNiBot 1
3 Report on malformed SPI pages. MolecularBot 4
5 Add {{Wrong-license}} to files with conflicting (free & non-free) licensing information. KiranBOT 15
7 Replace {{Now Commons}}, for local files which are nominated for deletion on Commons, with {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}}. CanonNiBot 1
8 Replace {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}}, for local files which have been deleted on Commons, with {{Deleted on Commons}}. CanonNiBot 1
9 Remove {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}} from files which are no longer nominated for deletion on Commons. CanonNiBot 1
11 Fill in missing date parameter for select usages of {{Now Commons}}.
13 Post various database reports to Misplaced Pages:Database reports.
17 Remove instances of {{FFDC}} which reference files that are no longer being discussed at FfD. KiranBOT 14
15 Remove {{Now Commons}} from file description pages which also translcude {{Keep local}} CanonNiBot 1
14 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are proposed for deletion. DatBot 12
4 Remove {{Orphan image}} from free files which are not orphaned. DreamRimmer bot 3
6 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for dated deletion. DatBot 12
10 Add {{Orphan image}} to orphaned free files. DreamRimmer bot 2
12 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for discussion. DatBot 12
16 Leave courtesy notifications for article authors (who were not notified) when their contributions are proposed for deletion. DatBot 12

12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Since nobody's taking them, I'm gonna try working on tasks 5 and 15. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for volunteering :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
updated task 17 with KiranBOT 14. —usernamekiran (talk) 23:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
I've claimed the malformed SPI task. My bot will be an WP:EXEMPTBOT for this task and not require BRFA because it will just report malformed SPIs to User:MolecularBot/MalformedSPIs.json, which will then be displayed on the malformed SPIs page in projectspace through a template and Lua module, similar to my AfC bot (botreq by JJPMaster below). MolecularPilot 06:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Completed & running continously (it watches RecentChanges) on Toolforge :) See Misplaced Pages:Malformed SPI Cases. MolecularPilot 08:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
working on FastilyBot 5 "add {{Wrong-license}} to files", will file BRFA when code is ready. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Deletion of navboxes at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition

List of templates for deletion at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition

Requesting for bot help to nominate 156 navboxes for deletion (listed above). These navboxes are for teams that finished lower than third place in the Olympic basketball tournaments. Such templates are subject to WP:TCREEP and were previously deleted per May 31, 2021, April 22, 2020, June 7, 2019, and March 29, 2019 (first, second and third) discussions (to name a few). – sbaio 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Maybe one day I'll complete User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD and things like this will be much easier.— Qwerfjkltalk 17:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
It is very easy to list these templates at TFD as a batch. Someone with AWB should be able to help you apply the correct TFD template to all of them. Notification of the templates' creators might also be not-too-hard with AWB, especially if you provide a list of those editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Ill tag them, if I could get the editors users ill notify as well.  Working with AWB. Geardona (talk to me?) 23:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Geardona, have you completed this task? Thanks! (I'm trying to sort out all the discussions and either make the bot to do them, or close them). MolecularPilot 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years

There are presumably hundreds of articles about calendar years (for example, 671) that contain the text "link will display the full calendar".

I believe this text violates the spirit of WP:CLICKHERE, specifically:

phrases like "click here" should be avoided In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia

The text "link will display the full calendar" would of course make no sense in a print encyclopedia, so I think it should be deleted. Given the number of articles that this text appears in, this deletion would best be done by a bot. Stephen Hui (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

A total of 1562 pages use this wording. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
DreamRimmer, Stephen Hui, this has been discussed before at Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive 84#(link will display the full calendar). — Qwerfjkltalk 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
It has also been raised a number of times at WT:YEARS including following the linked BOTREQ (1, 2, 3), all of which were asking to remove it (without reply). Suffice to say, I think per WP:SILENCE there is a general lack of concern about whether this text is removed. Unless there is any significant opposition raised here in the next few days, I would be okay putting in a BRFA to remove the offending text. Primefac (talk) 22:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
If it hasn't been done already, I'd also suggest doing a few dozen "by hand" first, to see if that provokes any objection. I don't expect it will. Dicklyon (talk) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Easy enough to mass-rollback, I just forgot I was planning on doing this. Primefac (talk) 16:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Y Done by the way. Primefac (talk) 12:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Province over-capitalization

See WP:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#50K articles with over-capitalized "Province" and WT:WikiProject Iran#Fixing widespread over-capitalization of "Province" (just started). There are over 50,000 articles with over-capitalized Province since the Jan 2022 multi-RM that moved all the Iranian province titles to lowercase. Assuming the project discussion doesn't turn up resistance to fixing, many of these would be easily amenable to bot fixing, like the task that User:BsoykaBot did for NFL Draft over-capitalization. Dicklyon (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Actually, there's not much activity at WikiProject Iran, so if anyone wants to see this discussed more, point me at a better place to bring it up. Dicklyon (talk) 04:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I did a bunch of these by hand on Dec. 6 (example). No reaction from anyone. Dicklyon (talk) 04:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bsoyka and DreamRimmer: Thank you both for volunteering to help if/when we see clear consensus or a closed discussion on this. Does anyone have a good idea how to provoke more response? All I've got so far is silence. The big RM was similarly quiet, with no opposition and just 2 supports. Dicklyon (talk) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

This is why bots go through trials; not only does it allow for the bot operator to demonstrate that their bot operates as intended, it gives users the opportunity to give feedback on the task. If this is a potentially contentious task, we can have the bots not mark the edits as minor during the trial to raise more awareness of it prior to acceptance. Primefac (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, a trial not marked minor is a good idea beyond the bunch I did by hand not marked minor. Are you prepared to approve such a trial? Bsoyka has a bot that's got demonstrated competence at doing such things, while avoiding purely cosmetic edits. Dicklyon (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I've got no response at the discussion I opened at the project. Is it OK to move forward with bot approval process? Dicklyon (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bsoyka and DreamRimmer: would either of you be willing to file an RFBA on this now, or should I try to provoke discussion elsewhere? Dicklyon (talk) 23:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Dicklyon, you can file a WP:BRFA yourself if you are seeking approval to use AWB for this. I recommend the easy-brfa.js script linked on the page. :) MolecularPilot 03:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
I am not seeking to use AWB for this, but for someone else to do so. Dicklyon (talk) 07:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Tagging Category:Cinema of Israel

Hello, I would like to kindly request that all articles, categories, files, etc. within the Category:Cinema of Israel be tagged with the newly created Israeli cinema task force. This will help streamline efforts to improve the quality and coverage of Israeli cinema-related content on Misplaced Pages.

Please exclude the following subcategories, as they may include films that are not necessarily Israeli and these categories include biographies (which are not part of WP Film):

I saw the request above on Belgian films and used it as a template for my request. Thank you. LDW5432 (talk) 05:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

This query with depth of 5 returns 1003 articles. I have checked a few random ones, and they seem fine. @LDW5432, can you please go through some random articles and let me know if there are any that should be removed from the list? – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Hold on with the bot. I need to remove people pages from the category as they aren't supposed to be in the film task force category. I will list a few that should not be included or we can manually remove later--:
Tel Aviv University
ICon festival
Jinni (search engine)
Kibbutzim College
- LDW5432 (talk) 20:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I updated the bot request to not include biographies. If you run it now with the new parameters and exclude the following four pages then everything should be good to be tagged. @DreamRimmer
Tel Aviv University
ICon festival
Jinni (search engine)
Kibbutzim College
- LDW5432 (talk) 21:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@LDW5432:This updated query shows 356 pages. If we remove these four, there will be 352 pages left to edit. Can you please confirm, so that I can tag them? – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, this is a good list. Please tag them. Thank you. LDW5432 (talk) 16:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi, I am finding that the depth isn't high enough to tag many films. Can you run another query on this category? Category:Israeli films
And exclude this category: Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict films
- LDW5432 (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
 Done Tagged 334 pages. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for tagging those 334 pages.
In my previous comment, I mentioned that the initial query doesn't have a depth which reaches important articles. The query you ran missed important films like Lemon Popsicle and The House on Chelouche Street.
Can you run the query again but on this category: Category:Israeli films
And exclude this category: Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict films
Thank you.
- LDW5432 (talk) 16:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@LDW5432: Can you please tell me which depth is correct? – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
This query finds the missing films. LDW5432 (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
There are many articles, such as Hounds of War and Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse), that do not belong to the Cinema of Israel. There are many such articles. If you can provide me with the correct query or a list, I can help. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Hounds of War is made by an Israeli director so it should be included. Some films have Israeli producers. You are correct that the other pages shouldn't be included. I reduced the depth to "2" and it fixes it. Query. - LDW5432 (talk) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@LDW5432: This list contains some articles that do not belong to Israeli cinema, and some users have complained about it. The good thing is that I have only tagged a few from the second query. Please create a correct list; otherwise, I will not be able to assist with this. I am going to revert the last few changes. – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Do you not want to include foreign films made by Israeli directors and producers? They don't need to be included. LDW5432 (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Bot to simplify "ref name" content

I have come across some very long ref names in ref tags, sometimes automatically generated by incorporating the title of the work that is being referenced, which is disfavored by WP:REFNAME, which asks that reference names be kept "short and simple" to avoid clutter. A ref name is nothing more than a piece of code by which to identify a reference, and can be as short as "A1" or the like. However, according to this search generously provided by Cryptic, insource:ref insource:/\< *ref *name *= *{76}/, there are over 1,600 Misplaced Pages articles containing ref names that are over 75 characters in length, which is ridiculous. I have started hand-fixing these, and that is arduous, and I suspect bot-fixable. I would therefore like a bot that checks each page for ref names over the length of some set number of characters, perhaps something is short as 30 or 40 characters, and where a ref name is excessively long, shorten it to a more reasonable length (that does not match any existing names on the page).

In the course of this search, I have also come across quite a few ref names that contain complete urls, ] terms as would appear in linked text, and various non-standard characters or text usually used for formatting. I would like any instance of brackets, use of "http://" or "https://" or characters outside of the English alphanumeric set of letters, numbers, and basic punctuation to be stripped out or replaced with characters in that set. BD2412 T 03:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'd support bot-shortnening without seeing a demo of it. This seems to be more in the wheelhouse of semi-automated fixes. I'm opened to be convinced though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
A ref name is not article text. It is literally just a signal to allow multiple uses of a reference. We could replace every ref name in the encyclopedia with a random string of three or four letters/numbers, so long as each ref name was unique within its article, and it would not change their functionality at all. Granted, there are some projects (like those working on comic book movies) where they craft ref names for more informative purposes, but where this is done, the ref names are never excessively long or made with brackets, URLs, or exotic characters. The only thing an excessively long or convoluted ref name accomplishes is reduce usability and clutter up the Wikitext wherever it is used. BD2412 T 03:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
See also User:Nardog/RefRenamer-core.js which is an awesome tool for quickly renaming all refs in a given article. -- GreenC 04:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@GreenC: Does it rename all of them? I am just concerned about the ridiculous ones (see, e.g., this fix). BD2412 T 04:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Kudos on the fixes you've done already. One point of WP:REFNAME is that reference names should have semantic value (not, for example "A1" or a random string of characters). It doesn't make the slightest difference to the reader, of course, but makes it easier for human editors to cite the correct source. Are you familiar with RefRenamer? I use it to replace reference names like ":0" and "auto1" with reasonably short but meaningful names, and it makes the replacement process a lot easier. It could simplify the task of replacing obscenely long reference names with much shorter ones, although it's still a by-hand tool, not a bot. It only changes the ones you tell it to. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I'll check it out, thanks. However, with thousands of articles having excessively long ref names, there is still likely an advantage for having a bot do some of this lifting. BD2412 T 04:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I might be able to do it manually with this tool, but it does not always actually shorten the name, sometimes it just formats it. This should work on the worst cases, though. BD2412 T 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I think it should be possible to use the code from RefRenamer in combination with Bandersnatch to run it semi-automatically. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Seems like a good example of WP:CONTEXTBOT to me. While "Author year" style, for example, will probably work well for types of sources where an author usually only publishes one per year, it won't work all that well for others. And personally I wish people would make more use of naming conventions that are more likely to be globally unique rather than less, often enough I've seen multiple articles on related topics that all cite different articles from a website and, since each only uses one article, the website's name gets used as the ref name, which has led to accidental bad refs if content is copy-pasted between the articles. Anomie⚔ 15:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
That's a good point about copying to other articles. "Authorlastname" is usually sufficient, if not then "Authorlastname YYYY-MM". Likewise the citation should have |last= as the first field so it's easy to visually find. I've found these two methods (with RefRenamer) are my current best practice. -- GreenC 16:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Even so, I think we can all agree that it is bad to have ref names like:
  • "Legitimate politics : a source of codification between theory and practice: A fundamental study of the uniting unity between politics and jurisprudence"
  • "urlThe Alkaloids of Tabernanthe iboga. Part IV.1 The Structures of Ibogamine, Ibogaine, Tabernanthine and Voacangine - Journal of the American Chemical Society (ACS Publications)"
  • "Dr. Coburn Stands for Science:Opposes Congressional efforts to honor debunked author linked to failed global malaria control"
That said, I have played around with the ref renamer tool pointed out be GreenC and Worldbruce, and I do think that I can use it to handle this task without needing a bot. BD2412 T 18:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
As such,  Request withdrawn by requester. NotAG on AWB (talk) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC) I have amended the template used in this comment because it was causing errors. The BOTREQ template does not have a "withdrawn" option. MolecularPilot 08:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't agree those are bad, at least not for the reason you think they are. The second should drop the odd "url" prefix and the third could use a space after the colon if they're going to be titled like that, but if editors of an article find it useful to use the full title of a work as its ref name then 🤷 why should we care? I've seen you insist on doing things that I personally think are stranger. Anomie⚔ 15:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Sortname redirects do not sit in the article's Wikitext, making it difficult to see where the reference even begins and ends. I literally just removed a "ref name=The Edinburgh Gazetteer: Or, Geographical Dictionary: Containing a Description of the Various Countries, Kingdoms, States, Cities, Towns, Mountains, &c. of the World; an Account of the Government, Customs, and Religion of the Inhabitants; the Boundaries and Natural Productions of Each Country, &c. &c. Forming a Complete Body of Geography, Physical, Political, Statistical, and Commercial with Addenda, Containing the Present State of the New Governments in South America..."; and a "ref name=" Arrivée officielle à Sapiac de @Dylan_Sage11 pour la saison prochaine! Médaille de bronze aux Jeux Olympiques de Rio 2016, 134 sélections pour 155 points, il arrive pour renforcer l'effectif de l'USM et faire vibrer la @rugbyprod2 #AllezSapiac". BD2412 T 04:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Lowercasing the word "romanized"

I've never done this before, but I've noticed a rather annoying issue that no human has the time to sort out manually. (Incidentally, my request is very similar to another active one.) There are thousands of stubs on Iranian locations that have the word "romanized" needlessly capitalised mid-sentence (apparently all mass-created by the same now-retired user). I'm not sure exactly how to track all of them down, but see categories like Sarbisheh County geography stubs or Qom province geography stubs. Anonymous 23:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

It looks like there may be around 820 pages, though there might be some valid uses in there (beginnings of sentences, Title Case, etc). Primefac (talk) 13:20, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't think this is a comprehensive list (indeed, many of them use "Romanized" in a different sense and most seem correct in doing so). The stub articles on Iranian villages I'm referencing all follow the same basic layout and all appear to be miscapitalising the word in the exact same spot. There have to be tens of thousands — I seem to land on one at least every twenty presses of the "random article" button. Anonymous 18:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
That is a case-sensitive regex search; it will only return capital-R-Romanized. If they aren't on that list, then they don't exist. Next time you see examples please post them here. Primefac (talk) 19:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm getting this message on my end: A warning has occurred while searching: The regex search timed out, so only partial results are available. Try simplifying your regular expression to get complete results. If there are indeed only 820 instances in all of Misplaced Pages, then that means that the chance of landing on any article with uppercase "Romanized" when hitting "random article" should be around 0.01%. It happens to me with fair consistency. Does it seem plausible that I'm getting these at several hundred times the normal rate? Anonymous 20:39, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
So you're clicking the random article button, and landing on dozens of Iranian villages (of which you still haven't given any examples)? That seems more unlikely than there being mysteriously thousands of articles not showing up on a search. Primefac (talk) 20:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Are you suggesting that I'm lying about something this mundane and pointless? Here are six examples of articles I have randomly landed on and corrected: Lal-e Tazehabad, Golab-e Pain, Neyneh, Rudbarak, Gilan, and Dahich (check the edit history if you need proof). If your numbers are correct, these six articles represent around 0.7% of all articles that use(d) "Romanized" (for comparison, they're around 0.00008% of all English Misplaced Pages articles). Anonymous 21:43, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
No, I was not suggesting you were lying, I was trying to discover the mismatch between what you were saying and what I was seeing. I was searching for Romanized, while the text you are seeing is ]d, which are two very different things. That search gives ~41k pages. Primefac (talk) 09:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Probably worth letting {{langx}} handle this like this. Gonnym (talk) 09:35, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
That would probably also reduce or remove a lot of the CONTEXTBOT issues I was envisioning. Primefac (talk) 09:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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