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{{nutshell|Misplaced Pages contains revealing plot details of fictional works; this is expected. Spoiler warnings should only be used in articles about fictional subjects. When adding or removing a spoiler warning, be prepared to obtain consensus.}}


A ''']''' is a piece of information in an article about a narrative work (such as a book, feature film, television show or video game) that reveals ] ]s or ]s. Misplaced Pages articles may include ''']''' and no spoiler warnings. A spoiler is a piece of information about a narrative work (such as a book, film, television series, or a video game) that reveals ] points or ]. Articles on the Internet sometimes feature a spoiler warning to alert readers to spoilers in the text, which they may then choose to avoid reading. Misplaced Pages previously included such warnings in some articles, but no longer does so, except for the ] and section headings (such as "Plot" or "Ending"), which imply the presence of spoilers. The "]" guideline explains why spoiler warnings are no longer used on Misplaced Pages.


It is {{strong|not acceptable}} to add "spoiler warning" notices or to delete information from (or ] it within) an article because you think it spoils the plot. Such concerns must not interfere with ], encyclopedic tone, completeness, or any other element of article quality (e.g., the ]). When including spoilers, editors should make sure that an {{em|encyclopedic purpose}} is being served. Articles on a work of fiction should primarily describe it from a ], discussing its reception, impact, and significance.
Spoilers on the Internet are sometimes preceded by a spoiler warning.<ref>Examples include ], ], and ].</ref> Spoiler tags are an exception to our general guideline ], and the weight and significance of the disclaimers guideline should be considered when trying to form a consensus for their use. Concerns about revealing spoilers in an article's lead should be governed by Misplaced Pages's ], which states "The lead should not 'tease' the reader by hinting at but not explaining important facts that will appear later in the article."


This guidance also applies to other relevant information beyond simple plot elements, such as "surprise" casting information for a publicly released film. Other aspects beyond prose, such as infobox materials and categories, are also considered to be within this guidance; it is not acceptable to remove a category that is otherwise well-defining for the work's plot that could be considered to spoil the plot.
When article sections are properly titled, it usually becomes unnecessary and redundant to include spoiler tags that, for example, warn a reader that siginificant plot details are about to be revealed in the "Plot" section.


== Other types of spoilers ==
It is not acceptable to delete information from an article about a work of fiction because it spoils the plot. Do not make spoiler-free parallel versions (]). Other approaches that are not acceptable include concealing spoilers using codes such as ], and setting the text and background colors to the same color using ].
The same reasoning for including spoilers when appropriate in articles on works of fiction applies to other types of "spoilers" as well; for example, the optimal strategy for games such as ], the workings of ]s, the solutions to ]s, the answers to ]s, the results of ] programs, and live radio and television events ] in certain areas of the world such as the ] and the ].


But note that this does not mean such information {{em|must}} be included, either. ]; it should contain information appropriate to an encyclopedia article on the subject.
==Spoiler warnings==
===When spoiler warnings should not be used===
*Spoiler warnings must not interfere with ], completeness, encyclopedic tone, or any other element of article quality.
*Spoiler warnings are usually inappropriate in articles discussing classical works of literature, poetry and theatre. In grey areas, editors placing spoiler templates should use the article's talk page to discuss the matter.
*Spoilers and spoiler warnings should not be used in articles on non-fictional subjects. If explicit spoilers<ref>An explicit spoiler mentions the work of fiction concerned.</ref> are mentioned in non-fiction articles (''e.g.'' articles on authors, actors, real-life locations in which (a) fictional text(s) is set, or literary concepts like ]), consider whether the spoiler improves the encyclopedic quality of the article. It may be better to remove the example.
*Spoiler warnings are usually redundant when used to cover an entire "Plot" or "Synopsis" heading, or fictional "History" headings of any sort in articles whose subject is fictional, since spoilers are to be expected in a plot summary. Spoiler notices may be appropriate in a subsection of a "Plot" heading, where there is consensus that the spoiler is particularly significant, and would not be expected to be revealed. If a particular section is large, it can be subsectioned. For example, a "Plot" section could have subsections such as "Introduction," "Central Conflict," "The Mysterious Stranger," "Climax," and "End." If readers can deduce what is within the subsections, then there is no need to insert additional warning tags.
*Spoiler warnings should not be used when they can be replaced by more accurate heading information. If a "Themes" heading starts with a plot description, the best thing to do is break the plot description into a separate heading. If there are no headings, it is usually better to add them.
*Articles about fictional characters, objects, or places can be expected to include significant elements of the story. They should only contain spoiler warnings around specific details that a reader might not expect to come across.


===When spoiler warnings may be appropriate=== == Why spoiler warnings are no longer used ==
Until late 2007, spoiler warnings, also known as spoiler disclaimers, were a frequent occurrence in Misplaced Pages articles about works of fiction. However, by 2007, some editors were also including spoiler warnings in articles about myths, folklore, fairy tales, and even biblical stories. After such a warning was ] to the article about '']'', other editors took notice and began questioning the prolific and unrestricted use of the disclaimers. After a series of long, contentious discussions,{{efn|For the main discussions, see:
* Spoiler notices may be appropriate when significant plot revelations appears in unexpected places, if there is consensus that this is necessary (note it on the talk page).
* {{section link|Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 November 8#Template:Spoiler}}
* Spoiler notices are more likely to be appropriate in newer works than in older works. Movies currently in first release, TV shows that have not yet aired in all major markets, and books that have only been released in hardcover are more likely candidates for spoiler notices than a film from 1935, though exceptions may exist on either side. This does not imply that spoiler notices become redundant shortly after the work of fiction reaches market.
* ] (and many talk archives listed there), 2007
* Very rarely, a spoiler warning may appear in the article lead. Plot details that are not significant from an ''out-of-universe'' perspective should not be found in the lead at all. See ]
* ] (formerly Template talk:Spoiler), 2007
* ], 2003–2004
}} several issues with spoiler warnings were identified:


# There was no strong basis to exclude disclaimers for potential spoilers from the "]" guideline when many other disclaimers—such as warnings about offensive images or content and medical and legal disclaimers—would be of greater benefit to the reader.
===How to add or remove spoiler warnings===
# No other academic, scholarly, or other professional publications that describe or analyze works of fiction, such as other encyclopedias, include disclaimers about spoilers when discussing said works.
* Where it is appropriate, a '''{{]}}''' tag can be used to mark spoiler sections, with '''{{]}}''' to mark the end. Whether one is adding or removing, be sure to do both. Do not improvise such warnings in plain text.
# Sections that frequently contain spoiler warnings—such as plot summaries, episode lists, character descriptions, etc.—were already clearly named to indicate that they contain plot details. Therefore, further disclaimers would be redundant and unnecessary.
# Labeling a plot detail as a spoiler would require editors to use their own subjective opinions to interpret the significance of a plot detail and its likelihood of altering the enjoyment of the work of fiction. This would be a violation of Misplaced Pages's core policies of ], ], and ].


Supporters of spoiler warnings pointed out that it had become common practice on the Internet to give a warning about potential spoilers any time plot details were discussed—especially details about how a work of fiction ends—and that readers had come to expect such warnings as a form of courtesy even when most readers will ignore the disclaimers. Because of this, they argued that Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines ]. However, editors could not reach a consensus about whether the presence of spoiler warnings in articles was an improvement to Misplaced Pages.
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This page in a nutshell: Spoilers are no different from any other content and should not be deleted solely because they are spoilers.

Misplaced Pages articles may include spoilers and no spoiler warnings. A spoiler is a piece of information about a narrative work (such as a book, film, television series, or a video game) that reveals plot points or twists. Articles on the Internet sometimes feature a spoiler warning to alert readers to spoilers in the text, which they may then choose to avoid reading. Misplaced Pages previously included such warnings in some articles, but no longer does so, except for the content disclaimer and section headings (such as "Plot" or "Ending"), which imply the presence of spoilers. The "No disclaimers in articles" guideline explains why spoiler warnings are no longer used on Misplaced Pages.

It is not acceptable to add "spoiler warning" notices or to delete information from (or hide it within) an article because you think it spoils the plot. Such concerns must not interfere with neutral point of view, encyclopedic tone, completeness, or any other element of article quality (e.g., the lead section). When including spoilers, editors should make sure that an encyclopedic purpose is being served. Articles on a work of fiction should primarily describe it from a real-world perspective, discussing its reception, impact, and significance.

This guidance also applies to other relevant information beyond simple plot elements, such as "surprise" casting information for a publicly released film. Other aspects beyond prose, such as infobox materials and categories, are also considered to be within this guidance; it is not acceptable to remove a category that is otherwise well-defining for the work's plot that could be considered to spoil the plot.

Other types of spoilers

The same reasoning for including spoilers when appropriate in articles on works of fiction applies to other types of "spoilers" as well; for example, the optimal strategy for games such as tic-tac-toe, the workings of magic tricks, the solutions to logic puzzles, the answers to riddles, the results of reality television programs, and live radio and television events broadcast on a delay in certain areas of the world such as the Eurovision Song Contest and the Olympics.

But note that this does not mean such information must be included, either. Misplaced Pages is not a textbook, instruction manual, or video game guide; it should contain information appropriate to an encyclopedia article on the subject.

Why spoiler warnings are no longer used

Until late 2007, spoiler warnings, also known as spoiler disclaimers, were a frequent occurrence in Misplaced Pages articles about works of fiction. However, by 2007, some editors were also including spoiler warnings in articles about myths, folklore, fairy tales, and even biblical stories. After such a warning was added to the article about The Three Little Pigs, other editors took notice and began questioning the prolific and unrestricted use of the disclaimers. After a series of long, contentious discussions, several issues with spoiler warnings were identified:

  1. There was no strong basis to exclude disclaimers for potential spoilers from the "No disclaimers in articles" guideline when many other disclaimers—such as warnings about offensive images or content and medical and legal disclaimers—would be of greater benefit to the reader.
  2. No other academic, scholarly, or other professional publications that describe or analyze works of fiction, such as other encyclopedias, include disclaimers about spoilers when discussing said works.
  3. Sections that frequently contain spoiler warnings—such as plot summaries, episode lists, character descriptions, etc.—were already clearly named to indicate that they contain plot details. Therefore, further disclaimers would be redundant and unnecessary.
  4. Labeling a plot detail as a spoiler would require editors to use their own subjective opinions to interpret the significance of a plot detail and its likelihood of altering the enjoyment of the work of fiction. This would be a violation of Misplaced Pages's core policies of no original research, verifiability, and neutral point of view.

Supporters of spoiler warnings pointed out that it had become common practice on the Internet to give a warning about potential spoilers any time plot details were discussed—especially details about how a work of fiction ends—and that readers had come to expect such warnings as a form of courtesy even when most readers will ignore the disclaimers. Because of this, they argued that Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines should not apply. However, editors could not reach a consensus about whether the presence of spoiler warnings in articles was an improvement to Misplaced Pages.

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Notes

  1. For the main discussions, see:
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