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== Larry King relation? == |
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== Archived 2003–2015 == |
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Just a note that 2003–2015 ]. ] (]) 00:42, 29 March 2016 (UTC) |
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She wasn't married to the ] from CNN, was she? That's where that link goes. ] 21:10, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC) |
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== Good Article goal == |
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:No, don't think it's "the" Larry K, no, so I deactivated the link. A search on Larry King shows no Billie Jean among his numerous previous wives... --] 23:53, 24 Jan 2004 (UTC) |
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With a new movie coming out about King's life, this seems like a great opportunity to improve this article and hopefully push it towards Good Article status. Anyone is welcome to participate. Below are some of my observations about what could be improved in this article as a jumping off point. |
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::It's a different Larry King. (Anonymous User) June 1, 2006 |
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:*Find sources --all non obvious facts should be sourced. This article has a lot of facts which are currently not sourced. |
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:*Remove scores --per peer review, scores should be removed from the body of the article unless they are a record |
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:*Make prose less list like --a few early career sections, other activities, and awards are very list like. The prose could be refined. |
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:*Trim excess or repetitive details |
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:*Improve cohesiveness of the article |
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:*Improve headings |
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:*remove/paraphrase block quotes--one or two block quotes would be fine but the article relies on them very heavily. |
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Please feel free to add any thoughts. ] (]) 16:58, 23 September 2017 (UTC) |
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:I've condensed the personal life section, removing all but one of the block quotes. Perhaps that last block quote can be paraphrased, but I'll leave it for now to see if there are other opinions. |
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:I'm also drafting the early part of her career ]. I think for early years its probably easier to not go year by year. I'm also removing mentions of some specific regional tournaments that do not appear significant in part because there is an article devoted to her statistics. ] (]) 03:36, 30 September 2017 (UTC) |
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:: Update: I have created an "In popular culture" section drawing on some things already in the article and adding a few others. Playing style and personality should probably be rewritten eliminating the quotes. If anyone is looking to jump in and do some writing, that could be a good section for someone to pick up. Sourcing for that should be easy as a lot of the sources used elsewhere in the article describe King's personality too. |
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::Sourcing remains an issue, and is another great area for other editors to get involved. |
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== Gay Icon Project == |
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::I'm also currently considering moving the first few paragraphs of "Career," which talks about some of King's biggest career achievements and turning it into a "legacy" section. I'm not always fond of legacy sections or living people but I do think moving the material into some sort of achievement section later in the article would help the flow from Early life into Early career. ] (]) 20:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC) |
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In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article ] to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article ] and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. ] 21:04, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC) |
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:::I have gone ahead and combined a few of the early years of King's career into a shorter overview. I think this makes sense as it allows for more focus on the peak of her career and avoids devolving into a list of tournaments and their results. I am not opposed to adding back some of the detail, particularly if sourced, so please feel free to add if you think anything important is missing. ] (]) 20:21, 15 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== Citations == |
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== US Open played on 4 surfaces? == |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians |
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I refer you to footnotes 181 & 182 which I have not cited properly. I endeavoured to do this, but then the links of the articles disappeared. Can you improve the citations please, according to the rules?] (]) 10:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC) |
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This is stated in the article: |
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== Interview with King on National Public Radio's Fresh Air == |
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"She is also the only woman to have won the US Open singles title on all four surfaces on which it has been played (grass, clay, indoor, and hard)" |
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King offers some insights as tho why she worked for women's equality in tennis. Some of this should be included in the article. She says that when she was 12 she decided that if she became the best tennis player she would work for change in the sport. |
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When was the U.S. Open played indoors? |
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https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/2021/08/21/1029711660/fresh-air-for-aug-21-2021-billie-jean-king-kenan-thompson?showDate=2021-08-21 |
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:I guess it's possible (due to a rain out), but I don't recall this ever happening. Usually, something similar is said about Jimmy Connors, but I've never seen more than 3 surfaces referred to. |
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== Removal of longstanding info on title numbers == |
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::Actually it was only three surfaces. 1887-1974; grass courts, 1975-1978; green clay courts, 1979-Present; hard courts. (Anonymous User) June 1, 2006 |
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I'm at a loss on why one of Kings most vital stats is being removed. It has been here for well over a decade, is used by the WTA and Tennis Hall of fame. I'm talking about the removal by a new editor of "King won 39 Grand Slam titles: 12 in singles, 16 in women's doubles, and 11 in mixed doubles. Why on earth would this be removed? The talks of the feat extensively! The in her bio section. It . The as important. |
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==Portrait photo uploaded== |
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We seem to have a newer editor who is also editing as an anon IP removing it as useless wording that no one cares about. Baloney! It's a huge part of her persona that is sourced everywhere. The Tennis Hall of Fame tells of her 20 Wimbledon titles too. Those weren't just in singles... they are a total of all her Major titles there. I have no idea why anyone would remove these accomplishments from here... and also from the Serena Williams article. It is supposed to be their job to bring it to talk if someone disagrees with their removal of longstanding consensus. They may not realize that fact even though I've explained it to them over and over... so here we are. ] (]) 20:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC) |
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Uploaded a black&white photo of Ms. King and removed the "picture wanted" template. --] 19:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC) |
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== Where tennis is headed == |
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== Inclusion of More Information == |
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I think that this article would be much more developed and inclusive of prevalent issues if it went more into depth of BJK’s influence on female athletes as the first openly gay female athlete. This is lightly included at the very end of the article, but would benefit the article if it was included earlier, and depicted the impact that it had on her influence to her fanbase, while also delving into the difficulties on her at that time. Additionally, this article could include more recent information, such as BJK’s interviews and more first-hand sources. Overall, this article holds a lot of information, but avoids some of the heavier topics on issues that are more prevalent today. In simply including this, in a non-biased and neutral way while adhering to Misplaced Pages’s guidelines, would enhance the notability, credibility, and overall relevance of this article. ] (]) 14:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I like what Billy Jean had to say on television the other day, about how tennis could benefit our youth and that she would like to see more youngsters participating in tennis. |
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I agree 100% of what she had to say and I too think that more young people being active in tennis would lower the obesity rate in children. |
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] 16:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Theresa Casey |
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== Seventeen poll == |
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Does anyone know whether the poll was of all the different editions of Seventeen or only the US/UK edition? ] 19:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Dates messed up? == |
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The first paragraph says that she was born in 1943. It later says that she was the "World #1" in 1941, and a few other dates. This is impossible, because she was not born yet. does someone know how to change this? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 19:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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==About the Trivia Section== |
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Would like to see a consensus from other editors besides Tennis Expert and myself Cr8tiv over the link to ]. This article is very important to me as I am documenting underground lesbian ] that includes Ms King's popularity as a costume in Lesbian Bars. Other editors to well known Lesbian pages such as kd lang and Eleanor Roosevelt have not objected to this inclusion in the Trivia section. Billie Jean is an icon to the Wiki LGBT world. Please chime in and voice your opinion. ] 4:30 June 4 2007 |
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*If I can be blunt, without meaning to be rude: first, trivia is widely considered across the Misplaced Pages community to be non-encyclopedic and its inclusion is generally discouraged, so it should go on that ground alone. Second, while Billie Jean King may be a lesbian meme, that is not, strictly speaking, about her. Hence, this reference should not be here. Feel free to add it to pages on lesbian subculture linked to this article. But this needs to adhere to Misplaced Pages policies, such BLP, BIO, etc... I am removing this pointless and unencyclopedic reference. ] 16:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC) |
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OKAY! One voice heard from. I have reinstated the link to ] Lets here from more than three Wikiies to get a consensus, not just the FINAL opionion of Eusebeus. Enjoy the free speech of Misplaced Pages before Guiliani and the Republicans take over. GO HILLARY CLINTON and VP Obama ] 17:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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*Remove, ]. --] <b> μολὼν λαβέ</b> 18:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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With a new movie coming out about King's life, this seems like a great opportunity to improve this article and hopefully push it towards Good Article status. Anyone is welcome to participate. Below are some of my observations about what could be improved in this article as a jumping off point.
I refer you to footnotes 181 & 182 which I have not cited properly. I endeavoured to do this, but then the links of the articles disappeared. Can you improve the citations please, according to the rules?Andrew Rabel (talk) 10:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
King offers some insights as tho why she worked for women's equality in tennis. Some of this should be included in the article. She says that when she was 12 she decided that if she became the best tennis player she would work for change in the sport.
I'm at a loss on why one of Kings most vital stats is being removed. It has been here for well over a decade, is used by the WTA and Tennis Hall of fame. I'm talking about the removal by a new editor of "King won 39 Grand Slam titles: 12 in singles, 16 in women's doubles, and 11 in mixed doubles. Why on earth would this be removed? The Tennis Hall of Fame talks of the feat extensively! The in her bio section. It heads the Billie Jean King website. The History Channel looks at it as important.
We seem to have a newer editor who is also editing as an anon IP removing it as useless wording that no one cares about. Baloney! It's a huge part of her persona that is sourced everywhere. The Tennis Hall of Fame tells of her 20 Wimbledon titles too. Those weren't just in singles... they are a total of all her Major titles there. I have no idea why anyone would remove these accomplishments from here... and also from the Serena Williams article. It is supposed to be their job to bring it to talk if someone disagrees with their removal of longstanding consensus. They may not realize that fact even though I've explained it to them over and over... so here we are. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
I think that this article would be much more developed and inclusive of prevalent issues if it went more into depth of BJK’s influence on female athletes as the first openly gay female athlete. This is lightly included at the very end of the article, but would benefit the article if it was included earlier, and depicted the impact that it had on her influence to her fanbase, while also delving into the difficulties on her at that time. Additionally, this article could include more recent information, such as BJK’s interviews and more first-hand sources. Overall, this article holds a lot of information, but avoids some of the heavier topics on issues that are more prevalent today. In simply including this, in a non-biased and neutral way while adhering to Misplaced Pages’s guidelines, would enhance the notability, credibility, and overall relevance of this article. Anastasia.barr (talk) 14:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
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