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| I've archived talk threads prior to 13th March 2015. See the Archive link if necessary. ] (]) 21:04, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ! style="background-color: #f90;" | <big>Using references (citations)</big> | |||
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| Before posting here, see my main user page. Thanks! ] (]) 17:29, 10 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| I thought you might find it useful to have some information about references (refs) on wikipedia. These are important to ] your writing and inform the reader. Any editor can removed unreferenced material; and unsubstantiated articles may end up getting deleted, so when you add something to an article, it's highly advisable to also include a reference to say where it came from. Referencing may look daunting, but it's easy enough to do. Here's a guide to getting started. | |||
| == Update == | |||
| ;<big>Good references</big> | |||
| I'm sad to say that Ray died on Tuesday, 30 June 2015. | |||
| A reference must be accurate, i.e. it must prove the statement in the text. To validate "Mike Brown climbed Everest", it's no good linking to a page about Everest, if Mike Brown isn't mentioned, nor to one on Mike Brown, if it doesn't say that he climbed Everest. You have to link to a source that proves his achievement is true. You must use ], such as published books, mainstream press, authorised web sites, and official documents. Blogs, Myspace, Youtube, fan sites and extreme minority texts are not usually acceptable, nor is ], e.g. your own unpublished, or self-published, essay or research. | |||
| The funeral will be on 16 July 2015 in ]. Most of Ray's friends on wiki are from all over the world, but if anyone wants to attend the funeral, you can contact me for details. ] (]) 16:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ;<big>Simple referencing</big> | |||
| ;--] (]) 17:39, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
| The first thing you have to do is to create a "Notes and references" section. This goes towards the bottom of the page, below the "See also" section and above the "External links" section. Enter this code: | |||
| :<nowiki>==Notes and references==</nowiki> | |||
| :<nowiki><references/></nowiki> | |||
| The next step is to put a reference in the text. Here is the code to do that. It goes at the end of the relevant term, phrase, sentence, or paragraph to which the note refers, and ''after'' punctuation such as a full stop, without a space (to prevent separation through line wrap): | |||
| :<nowiki><ref> </ref></nowiki> | |||
| Whatever text you put in between these two tags will become visible in the "Notes and references" section as your reference. | |||
| ;<big>Test it out</big> | |||
| Copy the following text, open the edit box for this page, paste it at the bottom (inserting your own text) and save the page: | |||
| :<nowiki>==Reference test==</nowiki> | |||
| :This is the text which you are going to reference.<nowiki><ref></nowiki> ''Substitute your own text in this space'' <nowiki></ref></nowiki> | |||
| :<nowiki>==Notes and references==</nowiki> | |||
| :<nowiki><references/></nowiki> | |||
| (End of text to copy and paste.) | |||
| ;<big>Information to include</big> | |||
| You need to include the information to enable the reader to find your source. For a book it might look like this: | |||
| :<nowiki><ref> Smith, Timothy: "A Guide to Planets", page 29. Solar Publishing, 2001 </ref></nowiki> | |||
| An online newspaper source would be: | |||
| :<nowiki><ref> Plunkett, John. , '']'', ]. Retrieved on ]. </ref></nowiki> | |||
| Note the square brackets around the URL. The format is <nowiki></nowiki> with a space between the URL and the Title. If you do this the URL is hidden and the Title shows as the link. Use double apostrophes for the article title, and two single quote marks either side of the name of the paper (to generate italics). | |||
| The date after ''The Guardian'' is the date of the newspaper, and the date after "Retrieved on" is the date you accessed the site – useful for searching the in case the link goes dead. Wikilinks (double square brackets which create an internal link to a wikipedia article) function inside the ref tags. Dates are wikilinked so that they work with user ]. | |||
| ;<big>Citation templates</big> | |||
| You may prefer to use a citation template to compile details of the source. The template goes between the ref tags and you fill out the fields you wish to. Basic templates can be found here: ] | |||
| ;<big>Same ref used twice or more</big> | |||
| The first time a reference appears in the article, you can give it a simple name in the <nowiki><ref></nowiki> code: | |||
| :<nowiki><ref name=smith> DETAILS OF REF </ref></nowiki> | |||
| The second time you use the same reference in the article, you need only to create a short cut instead of typing it all out again: | |||
| :<nowiki><ref name=smith/></nowiki> | |||
| You can then use the short cut as many times as you want. Don't forget the /, or it will blank the rest of the article! A short cut will only pick up from higher up the page, so make sure the first ref is the full one. Some symbols don't work in the ref name, but you'll find out if you use them. | |||
| ;<big>Example</big> | |||
| You can see refs in action in the article There are 3 sources and they are each referenced 3 times. Each statement in the article has a footnote to show what its source is. | |||
| ;<big>Next step</big> | |||
| When you become familiar with the process, the next step is to have one section, "Footnotes", with links embedded in the text, and another, "References", which lists all of your references alphabetically with full details, e.g. for a book: | |||
| :Lincoln, Abraham; Grant, U. S.; & Davis, Jefferson (1861). ''Resolving Family Differences Peacefully'' (3rd ed.). Gettysburg: Printing Press. ISBN 0-12-345678-9. | |||
| If you're ready to go into it further, these pages have detailed information: | |||
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| ==You may be able to help== | |||
| See ] and ]. ] 14:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I thought you might have a clue! Still, better to play it safe, I reckon. The arts could certainly do with some help... ] 23:13, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==George Hayter== | |||
| Hello Gordon - I have an interest in the edits you did to the George Hayter page. Could you email me at ''personal email address redacted'' | |||
| Thanks, Steve --] 23:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Please do not edit the comments of others, even if you believe the statements in them to be false or misleading. Doing so is considered disruptive to the discussion and an ongoing pattern of such behavior may be grounds for a block. ] (]/]) 18:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm not aware I had; I got involved in a messy cut-and-paste and must have lost something in the process. Sorry. You can see from my edit history that I don't do that kind of thing. I see where you mean, and have corrected it. ] 20:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Personal attack and warning template== | |||
| You accused me at ] of placing a "bogus" warning template. However, I do not see any guidelines for what is and isn't appropriate except for ]. Clearly, Ian Tresman has a conflict of interest in editing articles on catastrophism and Velikovsky, so what's wrong with posting a warning to his talk page? Please respond on my talk page. --] 18:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I didn't know there was a specific template and thank you for showing one to me. There should be better descriptions for how to do this. I wasn't aware of any procedure for warning or that pointing out that someone is selling self-published pseudoscience is a conflict of interest can be construed as a "personal attack". Where I come from "hawking" is used synonymous with selling, but I researched it a bit and found some people do consider it to be denigrating. --20:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Update
I'm sad to say that Ray died on Tuesday, 30 June 2015.
The funeral will be on 16 July 2015 in Topsham, Devon. Most of Ray's friends on wiki are from all over the world, but if anyone wants to attend the funeral, you can contact me for details. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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