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'''Abdel Fattah Saeed Hussein Khalil El-Sisi'''{{Efn|{{langx|ar|عبد الفتاح سعيد حسين خليل السيسي}}}} (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, ],<ref name="dictator">
*] Does the lead of this article sattisfy ]? 19:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Sources that categorize Sisi as a dictator:
{{bulleted list|{{Cite news |title=Egypt’s rushed election shows Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi is nervous |url=https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/10/03/egypts-rushed-election-shows-abdel-fattah-al-sisi-is-nervous |access-date=2024-12-27 |work=The Economist |issn=0013-0613 |quote="Last month Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi, Egypt’s military dictator..."}}|{{Cite web |last=Dunne |first=Michele |date=2019-04-08 |title=Why Is Trump Helping Egypt’s Dictator Entrench His Power? |url=https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/08/donald-trump-abdel-fattah-al-sisi-egypt-226579/ |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=POLITICO Magazine |language=en}}
|{{Cite web |title=President Trump, Condemn This Sham Egyptian Election {{!}} The Washington Institute |url=https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/president-trump-condemn-sham-egyptian-election |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=www.washingtoninstitute.org |language=en |quote="...issued a statement praising the Egyptian dictator's magnificent work for the country"}}
|{{Cite news |title=A Blank Check for Egypt's Dictator |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-26/u-dot-s-dot-gives-egypts-dictator-a-blank-check?embedded-checkout=false |access-date=2024-12-27 |work=Bloomberg.com |language=en}}
|{{Cite web |last=Toosi |first=Nahal |date=2021-07-12 |title=In D.C. visit, Egypt spy boss claims U.S. agreed — in writing — to jail American activist |url=https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/egypt-spy-boss-jail-american-498983 |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=POLITICO |language=en |quote="...Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, the Egyptian dictator who has imprisoned tens of thousands of dissidents."}}{{Cite web |last=Lawler |first=Dave |date=2019-04-23 |title=Egypt's President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi could rule until 2030 after winning referendum |url=https://www.axios.com/2019/04/23/sisi-referendum-rule-egypt-2030-constitution |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=Axios |language=en |quote="He has now cemented his status as Egypt's dictator without losing his position as a U.S. ally."}}
|{{Cite web |last=Greenwald |first=Glenn |date=2015-03-31 |title=Obama Personally Tells the Egyptian Dictator That U.S. Will Again Send Weapons (and Cash) to His Regime |url=https://theintercept.com/2015/03/31/obama-lifts-freeze-weapons-transfer-egyptian-dictator/ |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=The Intercept |language=en-US}}
|{{Cite web |last=Williams |first=Jennifer |date=2017-04-03 |title=Egypt’s president is a bloodthirsty dictator. Trump thinks he’s done a “fantastic job.” |url=https://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/3/15160358/trump-egypt-abdel-fattah-el-sisi-white-house |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=Vox |language=en-US}}|{{Cite news |date=2020-12-01 |title=Egypt President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi: Ruler with an iron grip |url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19256730 |access-date=2024-11-22 |work=BBC News |language=en-GB}}|{{Cite news |title=Egypt is again under military rule, but Sisi lacks Nasser's appeal |url=https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal |access-date=2024-11-25 |url-access=subscription|work=The Economist |issn=0013-0613|archive-url=https://archive.today/2021.08.26-144020/https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal|archive-date=2021-08-26|url-status=live}}|{{Citation |last=Grewal |first=Sharan |title=Egypt: A Coup against Democracy |date=2023-07-25 |work=Soldiers of Democracy? |pages=136–176 |url=https://academic.oup.com/book/46755/chapter-abstract/414394851?redirectedFrom=fulltext |access-date=2024-11-25 |publisher=Oxford University PressOxford |doi=10.1093/oso/9780192873910.003.0007 |isbn=0-19-287391-1}}|{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}}}</ref> and retired military officer who has been serving as the ] and current ] since 2014.<ref name=":5">{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}</ref>


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Should Sisi be referred to as a dictator? Some of these options are not mutually exclusive, so more than one can be selected:
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*'''A.''' Yes he should be, in a similar way as described above or found in the the leads of ], ], ], ]
*'''B.''' No he should not be, but he should be described as an authoritarian ruler, leader of an authoritarian regime, or leader of a military dictatorship somewhere in the lead, similar to the leads of ], ], ], ]
*'''C.''' No he should not be, but some variation of "Many observers see Sisi as a dictator" should be included in the lead.
*'''D. ''' No he should not be, and he should '''not''' be described as an authoritarian ruler. Instead, different arguments regarding his form of rule should be summarized in the body.
*'''E.''' Other (please elaborate)
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Talk:Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

The opening to the Abdel Fattah el-Sisi article read:

Abdel Fattah Saeed Hussein Khalil El-Sisi (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, dictator, and retired military officer who has been serving as the sixth and current president of Egypt since 2014.

(The word dictator been been removed for now while the RfC discussion takes place)

Should Sisi be referred to as a dictator? Some of these options are not mutually exclusive, so more than one can be selected:

  • A. Yes he should be, in a similar way as described above or found in the the leads of Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Kim Jong Un, Hafez al Assad, Pinochet
  • B. No he should not be, but he should be described as an authoritarian ruler, leader of an authoritarian regime, or leader of a military dictatorship somewhere in the lead, similar to the leads of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, Mohammed bin Salman, Ilham Aliyev, Isaias Afwerki
  • C. No he should not be, but some variation of "Many observers see Sisi as a dictator" should be included in the lead.
  • D. No he should not be, and he should not be described as an authoritarian ruler. Instead, different arguments regarding his form of rule should be summarized in the body.
  • E. Other (please elaborate)

Firecat93 (talk) 16:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Squad (U.S. Congress)

Should the Squad be described in the article as "far left?" TFD (talk) 22:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:1996 New Zealand general election

Should the bottom of the infobox in this election and all elections that follow it, which use the mixed-member proportional system, show the Prime Minister and their party alone (similarly to other Westminster systems, such as the UK, Australia, and Canada), or the Cabinet and its member parties (similarly to other systems that have coalition governments, such as Germany, the Netherlands, and Poland)? Glide08 (talk) 13:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Second Nagorno-Karabakh War

What should the infobox indicate as the location of the hostilities?

Please enter Option 1 or Option 2, followed by a brief statement, in the Survey. Do not reply to other users in the Survey. Back-and-forth discussion may be conducted in the Discussion section. Grandmaster 16:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Mackinac Center for Public Policy

This a request for comment on the above question and previous section. Is the Mackinac Center for Public Policy a Conservative group and should be described as such? And does the polices listed above overrule the more widely available references describing their relationships and them as Conservative vs Free-Market? ContentEditman (talk) 02:35, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:National Socialist Network

Should the Riverina chapter of the NSN be included in the infobox? Evoren (talk) 16:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Thomas Sewell (neo-Nazi)

Should the article include the guard’s actions (grabbing the camera lens and touching Hersant’s shoulder) and the court’s findings regarding Sewell’s claims on racial motivation and self-defence?

Evoren (talk) 15:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template talk:Infobox US political party

Should this template (a modified version of the political party infobox) be used on US political party pages? (previous attempt at seeking a consensus) RiverMan18 (talk) 14:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump

The current lead contains a simple mention of Trumpism. Should a brief description be added to this mention? A proposed wording for the added text, which is also up for debate here: characterized by right-wing populism, "America First" nationalism, and economic protectionism.Goszei (talk) 04:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Second Nagorno-Karabakh War

The RfC is whether to retain or remove Syrian mercenaries from the belligerents section of the infobox. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Syrian civil war

Is the Syrian civil war over? 207.96.32.81 (talk) 00:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Estado Novo (Portugal)

I'm opening a new RfC in an attempt to permanently solve this dispute. Should the Estado Novo regime be considered fascist? -- 2804:29B8:5183:100C:7163:1F92:A81A:7841 (talk) 23:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:2004 United States election voting controversies

Debate is ongoing as to whether content should be included in this article. This RfC covers two questions:
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  • Question 2: If so, what wording should be used?

Toa Nidhiki05 18:22, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Zionism

Does this sentence violate NPOV and should it be removed from the lead and the body?

"Zionists wanted to create a Jewish state in Palestine with as much land, as many Jews, and as few Palestinian Arabs as possible" Bob drobbs (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Death of Mahsa Amini

Should Masha Amini be referred to as Kurdish-Iranian in the first sentence of the lead?

This has previously been discussed at Talk:Death of Mahsa Amini/Archive 1#"Kurdish-Iranian" at Mahsa Amini, Talk:Mahsa Amini/Archive 1#Mahsa Amini was a Kurdish-Iranian and Talk:Death of Mahsa Amini#Kurdish-Iranian. TarnishedPath 02:26, 29 November 2024 (UTC)


  1. Arabic: عبد الفتاح سعيد حسين خليل السيسي
  1. Sources that categorize Sisi as a dictator:
  2. "EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' | Human Rights Watch". 2024-03-15. Retrieved 2024-12-14.
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