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| ==Welcome back== | |||
| == Tkorrovi et al - wrongly categorised ref in proposed decision == | |||
| We missed you. ] 18:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==Are you back?== | |||
| I refer you to ]. For your attention, thanks. ] 21:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Please be back to stay for a bit. Welcome back, hope you had a chance to sort out whatever sent you away in the first place. -- ] ] 02:06, 19 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| NO RESPONSE. ] 02:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello! == | |||
| : -- ]] ] 05:00, 2005 Jun 3 (UTC) | |||
| Hi there! Nice seeing you again. Hope you stick around :-) --] 02:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you. But you seem to have made the smallest possible change to the finding of fact. A better change would have been to reflect that Tkorrovi has attacked/insulted more than just me. I am not accused of issuing personal attacks/insults at anybody else. I note that you have also changed your view on the period of my suggesting banning from the article. That this is coincidental is true for both meanings of the word, I hope, as I suggest that as the facts unfold, some of the extreme positions taken before perusal of the evidence by memebers of the ArbCom should fade away. I think it should be becoming obvious that it is in Tkorrovi's character to take offense too easily and ''inappropriately''. ] 20:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Merry Christmas == | |||
| :Then, where is this hidden place, where are all my not yet found personal attacks against you?] 20:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I'm not expecting to be online as much over the next few days so... | |||
| :If you are going to openly insult each other, please keep it off of my talk page. Thank you. -- ]] ] 22:05, 2005 Jun 3 (UTC) | |||
| {{User:Francs2000/Christmas}} | |||
| As per above large font admonishment, continued at end of page. ] 09:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| -- ] ] 09:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi Grunt - welcome back and 'appy Crismus! - ] 14:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
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== Photo removal == | ||
| The photo of a kitten on your user page had been incorrectly labeled as being in the public domain. In reality, it is a stock photo that has not been licensed for Misplaced Pages, so I had to remove it. I hope you can find a suitable replacement if that is important to you. --] 02:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Grunt, on ] you state that ] has seen "rapid fire revert warring by both parties". Please note that the reversions between myself and (logged-in) Argyrosargyrou complied with the 3RR on my side but reached at least 7 reverts in a 24 hour period for Argyrosargyrou. This resulted in a 24 hr block for Argyrosargyrou, his second for violating the 3RR. The subsequent reverts by Argyrosargyrou were made through open proxies in an attempt to get around his block. As such, these edits were outside the scope of the 3RR ("Use of sockpuppets (multiple accounts) is not a legitimate way to avoid this limit" - ]) and thus could legitimately be reverted without invoking the 3RR. You might want to reconsider your implication that ''both'' parties need enjoining. I should also add that the reason why there are so many different IP addresses involved is because I was blocking each open proxy as Argyrosargyrou exposed it - he was actually doing quite a useful job of identifying proxies to block. (That's why I didn't simply protect the article.) -- ] 20:57, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==John Dufresne== | |||
| :There are other ways you could have dealt with this situation - revert warring is an utterly unacceptable answer whatever the circumstances. It would not be difficult to call community attention to the issue and have others either revert on your behalf or have the page protected such that anonymous users cannot revert the page. I would be tempted to suggest that all of the pages involved in the dispute should be protected immediately such that there can be no amount of revert warring at all until the dispute is resolved. I understand your desire to block abusive proxy addresses, but revert warring is not the way to find out what they are. -- ]] ] 20:59, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC) | |||
| I looked in the history and you had created the stub. I worked on it a bit today, but have run out of time. Maybe you could help? Otherwise, I'll add it to my projects. Thanks!--] 20:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::It's only "revert warring" if the 3RR applies. If an article is being repeatedly reverted from ordinary vandalism, calling it a "revert war" isn't appropriate and the 3RR clearly doesn't apply. Nor does it appear to apply to reverting sockpuppet attempts to evade the 3RR or edits by legitimately blocked users - "Use of sockpuppets (multiple accounts) is not a legitimate way to avoid this limit" and "Users who are banned from editing or temporarily subject to a legitimate block may not use sock puppets to circumvent this" (] and ] respectively). The wording makes clear that such edits are thus illegitimate, and the 3RR ''cannot'' apply to illegitimate edits. If you disagree you might want to consider a different form of words for the policies that I just cited. | |||
| ==Page for deletion== | |||
| ] is up for deletion. I ask for a vote for transwiki. Thanks. ] 00:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==* orudge grunts== | |||
| ::As for resolving the dispute, let's face it - Argyrosargyrou has already demonstrated that he's willing to use open proxies to avoid any action you or I or the ArbCom might take. We can't protect pages indefinitely from abusive users. The only alternative is to flush open proxies into the open, ban them as they appear and revert any damage they might have done - which is exactly what's happened in this instance. -- ] 21:14, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Are you still around, me old mucker? Missing you in #tycoon ;) ] 17:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::(''Added''): In addition to the above, I think this settles it: "Reverts: All edits by a banned user made since their ban, regardless of their merits, may be reverted by any user. As the banned user is not authorised to make those edits, there is no need to discuss them prior to reversion." (]) -- ] 22:11, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Situation of administrator abuse == | |||
| :::I just want to add that Chris O was supported by myself and Snchduer in the reverts. I believe once Argyrosargyrou crossed the line by using open proxies, Chris O was completely right to revert and block each proxy Argyrosargyrou was using. Anyone who has come across Argyrosargyrou will know he gives complete disregard to anything which stops him spreading his nationalist articles. I have emailed and left messages with other admins with either no response or a token gesture. I commend Chris O for taking any possible preventative action without giving Argyrosargyrou the space to breathe. Its the only way to deal with users like him. --] 23:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, I'm in a potentially awkward position with an Administrator. I have read the Wiki pages on dispute resolution but I'm still not sure how to proceed. | |||
| == Tkorrovi et al: Drowning the witch == | |||
| The Admin ContiE has a personal grudge against me for reasons I do not fully understand. He has been this way since I began frequenting wikipedia. | |||
| Grunt, you have asserted above that Tkorrovi and I insult each other on your Talk page and you ask us to stop. Similarly you find in the ] that me arguing my case is evidence of the "crime" of which I am accused. | |||
| I have done work improving the ] article. He has basically gone on a crusade against any edit I make. He controls every furry category article and several others ruthlessly. He is an iron fist and bans anyone he edit wars with. I had uploaded pictures and he deleted them with no talking. He seems to believe I am every person he has had an edit war against. He is always using personal attacks, calling me troll without reason. I uploaded them again and he voted them for deleted, but to his surprise the person who runs the images, thank you Nv8200p, found they were acceptable once I tagged them properly. Just recently he removed both the images without himself discussing it in the talk page (unless he was the same person who discussed only one) with the edit here Then ContiE ], added his constant insult of troll in the talk page. It appears on a completed different wiki, a comedy one in all things, somebody else stole my username and I believe this was Conti himself and uploaded them. ContiE showed it as his reason. While vandalism like his, I would revert and mention it, he would ban me permanently if I undid his edit. That is why I am asking admins for help. He holds a couple of accounts on wikipedia and I think they are administrators so I have to be careful who I tell about this. ] 06:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| These following questions lead directly to the heart of the matter: (1) In what way is my above comment an "insult" to Tkorrovi? (2) And, if it is, could you please suggest a form of words that would let me express the above sentiment in a way which would not be "insulting"? (3) If I am accused of personal insult/attack, how am I supposed to defend myself without discussing the character and behaviour of my accuser if, in so doing, as you find here and in the proposed decision, it leads me to be accused, ] style, of the very crime I am trying to discuss? ] 09:32, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==Please be my advocate / request for RfC== | |||
| It is difficult to defend myself against Tkorrovi's accusations when so doing causes me to commit the same "crime" again. This is like the old Middle Ages drowning the witch test. ] 09:32, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I am seeking a RfC from | |||
| :Personal attack is stating a '''supposed''' flaw in person.] 13:37, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ] but have been told that it has not been filed. Could you kindly assist me in filing this RfC and being free of her open and destructive harassment. Thank you. ] 08:40, 24 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Image:CTrain Somerset1.jpg listed for deletion == | |||
| ::Is that the definition in use? If so why is it not simply defined somewhere on Misplaced Pages? Or am I missing something obvious? ] 21:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| ::But, if that is the correct definition, I am still between a rock and a hard place. What if a "supposed flaw" in a person leads that person to shout "personal attack" too often and also inappropriately. I am suggesting, Tk, that this is a flaw you have. Am I now, once again in this paragraph, guilty of "personal attack"? How do I defend myself against your false and vexatious accusations ''except'' by saying you make false and vexatious accusations? By saying that you habitually do so. By saying, every time you misrepresent what happened to the ArbCom and in so doing cast me in a bad light, that you lie! By pointing out it is not only me you take exception to in this way. Oops, is that a second, third or maybe even a fourth personal attack in this very paragraph!?!? ] 21:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello from the Mediation Committee == | |||
| Grunt has not responded so far possibly because he thinks this is being discussed in the wrong place. I raise the issue here becuase it is he, primarily, (it seems), who is deciding what constitutes "personal attack", he who has drafted that part of the proposed decision. And he who recently switched his vote on this issue because (I think) he sees my defence against Tkorrovi vexatious and flase accusations as being evidence of "personal attack/insult" by me of Tkorrovi. Although he does not say why he switched his vote. Grunt, why? ] 21:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :To be perfectly frank and honest, I am changing my votes because I can see that Tkorrovi is not engaging in commentary on my talk page that could be percieved as attempts to harass and intimidate the arbitrators. I have heard complaints from my fellow arbitrators that you, Paul, are engaging in such acts. There are ways to make critical comments that do not appear to be directly insulting, as I feel much of your commentary appears to be. (And just for the record, I am not online 24/7 and was away from a computer for the duration of the time when both of your comments were made). -- ]] ] 23:55, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I appreciate your frankness and honesty. But it shows you in a very bad light. My guilt / blameworthiness / accountability for actions that I took in the period March to May '''2004''' cannot be changed by my actions now. It is fundamentally unjust to do what you now do. It is vindictive to decide the issues in ''Tkorrovi et al'' by my demeanour in what looks more and more like a kangaroo court. And it is self-defeating. Because the more unjust you are the less likely anyone is going to take you and the ArbCom seriously. AND such poor decision making leaves you open to external and critical review by bodies outside Misplaced Pages. You and some of your fellow jurors violate some of the very same principles you have identified as pertaining to this case. It is a disgrace. If anybody can bring Misplaced Pages into disrepute it is the ArbCom. You do so. ] 02:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| ::But to the accusations you make: They are too vague to be answered. Specify them. Provide references. Charge me, raise an RfA. ] 02:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *There are five current requests to join the Mediation Committee: | |||
| :::There already is an RfAr in progress, demonstrating to my satisfaction and to the satisfaction of my peers apparently poor conduct with respect to ]. Further, your actions in the here and now appear to be indicative of a similar pattern of behaviour. -- ]] ] 03:10, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::"Appear". Make your charges explicit. Or don't uber-wikipedians need to do that. ] 08:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Yours respectfully, <span style="font-family:Sans serif">] <font color="#7b68ee">(<small>] • ]</small>)</font></span> 02:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| '''No response. You make unsubstantiated allegations about me. In particular (but not only) I am concerned as to your allegation that I am attempting to intimidate members of the ArbCom.''' ] 21:45, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| == RE: Johnny Lee Clary - Please help == | |||
| Hey there, my name is Nick, my username is Potters house and I have encountered a problem with trying to provide any information about Johnny Lee Clary. I have posted this post off to other staff members also. I am not sure if this is the best route to resolve this, but can think of no other way. | |||
| The article Johnny Lee Clary has been deleted. I have known Johnny through telephone conversations and email for a short time now (about 3-4 months). He recently came and shared his life story in for our church group for the first time just two weeks ago. Before I met Johnny I became interested in his story i.e. his conversion from the head of the KKK in the US, to being a Christian Minister who now teaches against race hate groups. I found the article ] as it still is today, deleted, except for some small talk. If you read the talk you see what I have said at the time (notice I have gotten no reply, probable my fault as I don’t know heaps about WIKI policy). From my understanding Johnny Lee Clary was posting as The KingOfDixie and looks like he tried to change a few things on Wiki concerning the KKK. While this is a controversial subject, Johnny being the former leader of the KKK would probably know a thing or two and be able to contibute, but that’s another story. He eventually made an article about himself i.e. Johnny Lee Clary. Johnny being quite new to Wiki and ignorant of rules of conduct found himself at odds with some admins and had his site deleted. | |||
| Whilst observing Johnny over the last 3-4 months I have noticed that he is very outspoken against race hate groups such as the Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK etc. This, more often than not, lands Johnny in the hot seat. He has experienced persecution from racist groups for his departure from the KKK and voiced opinions against these racist organizations on his webpage, www.xkkk.org. Johnny has also received multiple death threats. | |||
| Because of his bold stance against these racist groups Johnny has become accustomed to hatred directed at him by those same groups. Johnny concluded that perhaps the guy who deleted the page ] was a white supremist. I am hoping to clear this up. Before he told me this, I started to create ], after hearing nothing from posting in user talk on Johnny Lee Clary's article. I wasn't 10 minutes into the ] article when it was issued a deletion notice, and then before I had time to reply (about 5 minutes) it was deleted! I was amazed. I told this to Johnny and he said the main reason he was told that he couldn't have an article was because he was not prominent enough. | |||
| Johnny has a very famous testimony and has been on multiple TV shows like Oprah, Donahue, Jerry Springer, etc, and even recently when he preached in our town he made front page news, a double spread on his life, and the local ABC interviewed him live, which is not bad for our town (LISMORE NSW Australia) See http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history . | |||
| When ] came to our town hardly anyone knew or cared, yet ] is allowed an article (and rightfully so), but more people know of Johnny. As to whether he is famous or not, just Google search him and see all the TV interviews and radio interviews he does. He hangs with some of the most prominent Christian leaders in Australia. Besides this, just being the former KKK leader should be enough for an article (he doesn't even get a mention in the KKK one, and would be deleted). He was also a Pro Wrestler. So he is prominent in Christian circles, he is prominent amongst race hate groups, and he is also prominent in the WWE wrestling. | |||
| Johnny asked me to test the waters for him to see if he was being persecuted by someone from a race hate group. So I created some sites, ] ] and ] - the name of Johnny's Ministry. These have been fine until yesterday. I cannot understand why these sites are just issued a deletion notice? Just because they mention JLC? I was hoping to discuss these things but they are just deleted. The one on Wade Watts is about a black gospel preacher who was one of the leaders in the civil rights movement in the US and was good friends with Martin Luther King. He took Johnny Clary under his wing and even ordained Johnny as a minister (to this day Johnny is the only white man ordained in the All Black Baptist Church). But his article is up for deletion because I mentioned Clary and had a link. | |||
| That is why I am writing to you to see if you can help. It seems to me that the person(s) deleting all articles which even mention Johnny Lee Clary has an agenda. I thought that wikipedia admins had to keep a neutral stance on every article. It seems like this guy has a vendetta against JLC. Why delete the Wade Watts article. That is guilt by association and could be proof that all deletions are because of racial discrimination! I hope this is not the case and would think that it is politically motivated, as Johnny is a strong supporter of George Bush and Antaeus Feldspar of Kerry. | |||
| See: | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush. | |||
| My hope is that Johnny will be able to have an article like any other famous person, minister, former KKK leader, or pro wrestler, and that Johnny and anyone connected with him and his ministry will in future have certain rules set in place that do not allow the wholesale deletion of the articles associated with him, but that they will be at least discussed. | |||
| I thank you for reading this long winded post. I have only been using WIKI for about a year myself so I need your help, I don't really know what else to do. I hope you can help. I personally think that Johnny's story is one that is beneficial to the cause of reconciliation between races and to the3 unity of society as a whole. It would be a shame if WIKI became known for having covert racists. Of course I hope that this is a misunderstanding and that all will be cleared up soon. | |||
| Here are some links that might help. | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Wade_Watts | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:TheKingOfDixie | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Operation_Colorblind | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Threeafterthree | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Potters_house | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Antaeus_Feldspar | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush. Perhaps the bias is political and not racial? | |||
| The link for page: John Clary has already been deleted! | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Alabamaboy | |||
| Please notice that his link was taken from the KKK site the same day: | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=prev&oldid=65690238 | |||
| then | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=next&oldid=65690238 | |||
| Also note his contributions: | |||
| Featured articles: | |||
| · African American literature -- My first featured article. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback. While I didn't start the article, I obsessed on it for an entire month and wrote most of the copy. | |||
| · Ku Klux Klan -- I began work on this article after it became a featured article. Since then I've mediated several editorial disputes on the article (including one of which kept the article from being delisted as a FA) and made a large number of edit. ] 00:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick. | |||
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| == Need help - I feel intimidated by cop who is editor == | |||
| Hi, I am reaching out to you with an odd situation even for Misplaced Pages. I attempted to edit the article on John Littlechild 1who led the first Special Irish Branch for the UK police and who also investigated the Jack the Ripper and Oscar Wilde cases. I saw that the article only touched on the career points of the subject. I noted that the formation of the Special Branch was opressive to the Irish and that Littlechild has a homophobe for his prosecution of Wilde. | |||
| These edits were promptly removed several times by editor Ben W. Bell 2 - a pro British Irishman. The editor Necrothesp 3 -- who authored the article -- also removed various entries. I even reduced the entry to say that the formation of the Special Branch was oppressive to the Irish and nothing more. This too was removed under the excuse that I was offering a POV and not a neutral objective fact. | |||
| I was going to get administrators to act as third parties but became intimidated by one simple fact -- on Necrothesp's user page its states that he is a British cop and a member of the U.K. Territorial army. I could go on forever talking about why the British police should not be allowed to edit articles on Northern Ireland but that would be useless. I travel in the UK a great deal and the police have special powers to trace users of any BBS system. | |||
| Necrothesp and Ben W. Bell also kept posting on my talk page after I said I felt intimidated. I asked them nicely to leave unitl after the editing conflict wass resolved but they still kept posting. I feel very intimidated. I would like to revise the article with more solid sources but fear being ganged up on again by Necorthesp the cop and his friend Ben W. Bell. In the last entry he made on my talk page Necorthest suggested I leave Misplaced Pages altogether which is very intimidating coming from someone who is a policeman 4. | |||
| I would still like to edit the article but would like you or some other advocate to watch what is being said and done. Please help! | |||
| I look forward to hearing from you. | |||
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Welcome back
We missed you. Raul654 18:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Are you back?
Please be back to stay for a bit. Welcome back, hope you had a chance to sort out whatever sent you away in the first place. -- Francs2000 
02:06, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello!
Hi there! Nice seeing you again. Hope you stick around :-) --HappyCamper 02:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
I'm not expecting to be online as much over the next few days so...
-- Francs2000 09:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Welcome back!
Hi Grunt - welcome back and 'appy Crismus! - MPF 14:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!!
Photo removal
The photo of a kitten on your user page had been incorrectly labeled as being in the public domain. In reality, it is a stock photo that has not been licensed for Misplaced Pages, so I had to remove it. I hope you can find a suitable replacement if that is important to you. --Michael Snow 02:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
John Dufresne
I looked in the history and you had created the stub. I worked on it a bit today, but have run out of time. Maybe you could help? Otherwise, I'll add it to my projects. Thanks!--Beth Wellington 20:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Page for deletion
Revolution within the form is up for deletion. I ask for a vote for transwiki. Thanks. WHEELER 00:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
* orudge grunts
Are you still around, me old mucker? Missing you in #tycoon ;) orudge 17:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Situation of administrator abuse
Hi, I'm in a potentially awkward position with an Administrator. I have read the Wiki pages on dispute resolution but I'm still not sure how to proceed.
The Admin ContiE has a personal grudge against me for reasons I do not fully understand. He has been this way since I began frequenting wikipedia.
I have done work improving the furvert article. He has basically gone on a crusade against any edit I make. He controls every furry category article and several others ruthlessly. He is an iron fist and bans anyone he edit wars with. I had uploaded pictures and he deleted them with no talking. He seems to believe I am every person he has had an edit war against. He is always using personal attacks, calling me troll without reason. I uploaded them again and he voted them for deleted, but to his surprise the person who runs the images, thank you Nv8200p, found they were acceptable once I tagged them properly. Just recently he removed both the images without himself discussing it in the talk page (unless he was the same person who discussed only one) with the edit here Then ContiE assumed bad faith, added his constant insult of troll in the talk page. It appears on a completed different wiki, a comedy one in all things, somebody else stole my username and I believe this was Conti himself and uploaded them. ContiE showed it as his reason. While vandalism like his, I would revert and mention it, he would ban me permanently if I undid his edit. That is why I am asking admins for help. He holds a couple of accounts on wikipedia and I think they are administrators so I have to be careful who I tell about this. Arights 06:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Please be my advocate / request for RfC
I am seeking a RfC from User:Woggly but have been told that it has not been filed. Could you kindly assist me in filing this RfC and being free of her open and destructive harassment. Thank you. IsraelBeach 08:40, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Image:CTrain Somerset1.jpg listed for deletion
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Joe Beaudoin Jr. 23:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello from the Mediation Committee
| Dear Mediators Emeriti:
I'm writing to all former/inactive mediators (now called "Mediators Emeriti" to emphasize the ability of any mediator to return at will to active participation on the Committee), to encourage each of you to share your wisdom and experience on the Committee by commenting on requests by new individuals to join the Committee.
The current Committee respects and appreciates the time you spent on the Committee, and the insight you can provide, and encourages you to take part in these discussions. Additionally, any mediator emeritus who has the time and would like to return to active mediation would be welcomed with great enthusiasm. Yours respectfully, Essjay (Talk • Connect) 02:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC) (I recognize that many of you left the Committee to go on to other responsibilities, particularly Arbitration and the Board, but we still welcome your input on new committee members and encourage your participation. Please don't feel guilty if you cannot participate; we just want to remind everyone that they are welcome to do so.) |
RE: Johnny Lee Clary - Please help
Hey there, my name is Nick, my username is Potters house and I have encountered a problem with trying to provide any information about Johnny Lee Clary. I have posted this post off to other staff members also. I am not sure if this is the best route to resolve this, but can think of no other way.
The article Johnny Lee Clary has been deleted. I have known Johnny through telephone conversations and email for a short time now (about 3-4 months). He recently came and shared his life story in for our church group for the first time just two weeks ago. Before I met Johnny I became interested in his story i.e. his conversion from the head of the KKK in the US, to being a Christian Minister who now teaches against race hate groups. I found the article Johnny Lee Clary as it still is today, deleted, except for some small talk. If you read the talk you see what I have said at the time (notice I have gotten no reply, probable my fault as I don’t know heaps about WIKI policy). From my understanding Johnny Lee Clary was posting as The KingOfDixie and looks like he tried to change a few things on Wiki concerning the KKK. While this is a controversial subject, Johnny being the former leader of the KKK would probably know a thing or two and be able to contibute, but that’s another story. He eventually made an article about himself i.e. Johnny Lee Clary. Johnny being quite new to Wiki and ignorant of rules of conduct found himself at odds with some admins and had his site deleted.
Whilst observing Johnny over the last 3-4 months I have noticed that he is very outspoken against race hate groups such as the Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK etc. This, more often than not, lands Johnny in the hot seat. He has experienced persecution from racist groups for his departure from the KKK and voiced opinions against these racist organizations on his webpage, www.xkkk.org. Johnny has also received multiple death threats.
Because of his bold stance against these racist groups Johnny has become accustomed to hatred directed at him by those same groups. Johnny concluded that perhaps the guy who deleted the page Johnny Lee Clary was a white supremist. I am hoping to clear this up. Before he told me this, I started to create J L Clary, after hearing nothing from posting in user talk on Johnny Lee Clary's article. I wasn't 10 minutes into the J L Clary article when it was issued a deletion notice, and then before I had time to reply (about 5 minutes) it was deleted! I was amazed. I told this to Johnny and he said the main reason he was told that he couldn't have an article was because he was not prominent enough.
Johnny has a very famous testimony and has been on multiple TV shows like Oprah, Donahue, Jerry Springer, etc, and even recently when he preached in our town he made front page news, a double spread on his life, and the local ABC interviewed him live, which is not bad for our town (LISMORE NSW Australia) See http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history .
When David Wilkerson came to our town hardly anyone knew or cared, yet David Wilkerson is allowed an article (and rightfully so), but more people know of Johnny. As to whether he is famous or not, just Google search him and see all the TV interviews and radio interviews he does. He hangs with some of the most prominent Christian leaders in Australia. Besides this, just being the former KKK leader should be enough for an article (he doesn't even get a mention in the KKK one, and would be deleted). He was also a Pro Wrestler. So he is prominent in Christian circles, he is prominent amongst race hate groups, and he is also prominent in the WWE wrestling.
Johnny asked me to test the waters for him to see if he was being persecuted by someone from a race hate group. So I created some sites, John Clary Wade Watts and Operation Colorblind - the name of Johnny's Ministry. These have been fine until yesterday. I cannot understand why these sites are just issued a deletion notice? Just because they mention JLC? I was hoping to discuss these things but they are just deleted. The one on Wade Watts is about a black gospel preacher who was one of the leaders in the civil rights movement in the US and was good friends with Martin Luther King. He took Johnny Clary under his wing and even ordained Johnny as a minister (to this day Johnny is the only white man ordained in the All Black Baptist Church). But his article is up for deletion because I mentioned Clary and had a link.
That is why I am writing to you to see if you can help. It seems to me that the person(s) deleting all articles which even mention Johnny Lee Clary has an agenda. I thought that wikipedia admins had to keep a neutral stance on every article. It seems like this guy has a vendetta against JLC. Why delete the Wade Watts article. That is guilt by association and could be proof that all deletions are because of racial discrimination! I hope this is not the case and would think that it is politically motivated, as Johnny is a strong supporter of George Bush and Antaeus Feldspar of Kerry.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush.
My hope is that Johnny will be able to have an article like any other famous person, minister, former KKK leader, or pro wrestler, and that Johnny and anyone connected with him and his ministry will in future have certain rules set in place that do not allow the wholesale deletion of the articles associated with him, but that they will be at least discussed.
I thank you for reading this long winded post. I have only been using WIKI for about a year myself so I need your help, I don't really know what else to do. I hope you can help. I personally think that Johnny's story is one that is beneficial to the cause of reconciliation between races and to the3 unity of society as a whole. It would be a shame if WIKI became known for having covert racists. Of course I hope that this is a misunderstanding and that all will be cleared up soon.
Here are some links that might help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wade_Watts
http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:TheKingOfDixie
http://en.wikipedia.org/Operation_Colorblind
http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Threeafterthree
http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Potters_house
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy
http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Antaeus_Feldspar
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush. Perhaps the bias is political and not racial?
The link for page: John Clary has already been deleted!
http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Alabamaboy
Please notice that his link was taken from the KKK site the same day:
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=prev&oldid=65690238
then
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=next&oldid=65690238
Also note his contributions: Featured articles: · African American literature -- My first featured article. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback. While I didn't start the article, I obsessed on it for an entire month and wrote most of the copy. · Ku Klux Klan -- I began work on this article after it became a featured article. Since then I've mediated several editorial disputes on the article (including one of which kept the article from being delisted as a FA) and made a large number of edit. Potters house 00:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick.
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Necrothesp and Ben W. Bell also kept posting on my talk page after I said I felt intimidated. I asked them nicely to leave unitl after the editing conflict wass resolved but they still kept posting. I feel very intimidated. I would like to revise the article with more solid sources but fear being ganged up on again by Necorthesp the cop and his friend Ben W. Bell. In the last entry he made on my talk page Necorthest suggested I leave Misplaced Pages altogether which is very intimidating coming from someone who is a policeman 4.
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A barnstar for you!
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The Special Barnstar |
| Here is a special Barnstar for your work, because, why not? Alicced (talk) 14:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC) |
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- my bad, ignore this, used twinkle on the wrong page lol ~Darth Stabro 23:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)