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| == Request for advice == | |||
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| ] persists in ] and addition of unsourced material on multiple articles. In the past I have simply abandoned work on some articles such as ] where I have been unwilling to be subjected to personal attacks, but the pattern of disruptive editing on multiple articles in the Hinduism group is no longer something I am willing to ignore. I notice that you have had some edit interactions with this user as well, and I am wondering if you have any advice on how to handle this. This user makes no attempt to engage in dialog and simply starts edit wars immediately. I dislike edit wars and generally try to follow a one-revert rule if at all possible. Can you assist with this situation? I am at the point where I feel the need to begin conflict resolution procedures such as involving third parties or requesting mediation: ] 08:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::This is blatant misrepresentation. <font color="Green">]</font><sup> (] • ])</sup> 06:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::I've observed the same things myself and I agree with ]. ] (]) 12:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I invite editors to mine my editing history in depth before making determinations. | |||
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| :::::I have posted a request for a discussion of recent edits to ] and the insertion of Bucknell et. al. on multiple articles at: ]. The Wikiquette alert page is an informal place where opinion can be had about disputes without opening a formal mediation or other conflict resolution process. The page notes that "This page is not part of the formal dispute resolution process, so it can be a good place to start if you are not sure where else to go." ] 02:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Nomination of ] for deletion == | |||
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| ==Invitation for input== | |||
| It see a new batch of somewhat challenging posts on the BKWSU talk page. I'm holding off responding today in case you have any input or suggestions. Some posts that particularly sounded alarm bells with me are and the following comments on the talk page. | |||
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| "Firstly, can I remind contributors that Simon and Riveros are both dedicated BK followers and, at least Simon, a member of the BKWSU organization core Internet PR Team. I tend to see them as a single voice of the BKWSU; Simon and his shadow. The BKWSU invests considerable energy and resources keeping the the more freaky part of its operation. | |||
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| The BKWSU followers wants to re-write this topic into some vague, flattering New Agey advertisement ," | |||
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| "But at least, Riveros, you ought to go and read some more murlis (channelled messages of the Bk god) so that you can understand what it is you are involve in as a Brahma Kumari follower ". | |||
| Also, I plan to challenge the first paragraph by citing reliable secondary sources which show that the Puttick reference is misleading. Is it too soon to file an Rfc after the first Rfc? Anyhow, it will take me a day or two to prepare the topic and propose a new intro. | |||
| On advice from ], I filed a Wikiquette alert regarding the Rfc alteration. | |||
| Regards ] 07:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :OK it seems that Green108 has been blocked for a while along with two identified sock puppets. I'm not sure quite what the sequence of events was to this happening, the Wikiquette alert, the arbcom enforcement board or just concerned editors and admins who were already on the case, but I am certainly grateful to all those involved in taking the initiative to address this disruptive behaviour. | |||
| :Thanks and regards ] 12:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Invitation for comments == | |||
| After posting my thoughts on ]'s talk page, and discussions with ] and ], Carcharoth asked if I'd be willing to put my talk page thoughts into an essay, as mentioned on the ] talk page, and at DES's added suggestions, I decided to go ahead and take a stab at it. Since you were one of the people who followed the issues between TTR and DTTR, I'd like to invite you to take a look at the ] of the essay, and offer your additional wisdom, insights, and suggestions. As of now, the essay is not public, DES and ] are the only ones who have taken a look at it during its initial creation. However, now that I've finished all sections, I'm ready to move into further discussion of the essay, aimed towards any improvements in format, layout, content, etc. I have invited ] to take a look as well. If you have the time to take a look, I'd be most grateful, <sup>]<font color="FF0000">♥</font>]</sup> 16:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Accusation == | |||
| Please do. ] 19:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi IPSOS. . I filed this before you arrived. I didn't follow the full procedure since I didn't know to before you arrived but it was discovered and announced on the talk page soon enough anyway . | |||
| :I have some ideas on this but I'm not sure how I can convey them without upsetting editors who may well be innocent. One place that might throw up some candidates is and . ] tagged all the accounts that may have an interest. | |||
| :Regards ] 20:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have been offline for a few day.] 13:34, 5 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Reference tutorial? == | |||
| Dear IPSOS, | |||
| Do you know where I can go to learn how to do references? I've looked on the help and cheatsheet pages but I can't figure out how they're doing references on the BKWSU page and several references need to be reinstated because they appear to be good. | |||
| Thanks, | |||
| Renee --] 20:17, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thanks -- much appreciated! --] 20:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Newspaper citations == | |||
| Dear IPSOS, How did you find all of those newspaper and other secondary sources for the Sahaj Marg site? I'd like to do the same for the Brahma Kumaris site. Thanks, Renee --] 19:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Cool! I've never clicked on the news in google. This is great. Thanks. | |||
| :::p.s. is there a 12-step program for Wiki addicts? :) --] 19:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == AfDs == | |||
| Ah, I understand. I didn't realise there was a reasoning or history to the separation of content beyond what was hinted at (content dispute) within one of the AfDs by the nominator. Well, if the lack of third party references would be an obstacle to the incorporation of content into the main article, and if they're also likely to wind up causing the deletion of this content, then it seems to me there are two possible options to saving what is potentially useful content: | |||
| # Find some references (obvious I know!). I'm no expert in that field though, so I wouldn't know where to start looking... | |||
| # Strip down the content, to make it acceptable and bring it in line with guidelines which would then allow it to be merged within the 'contemporary orders' section of HOGD. | |||
| What do you think? Is this salvageable? It doesn't seem like the articles are advertisements or spam to me, at least, but the lack of references is an issue and I also don't think the organisations merit articles of their own. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Would you please take a look at ]? Apparently this term is used in Western occultism in ways that differ from the use in Hindu texts such as the ] where vikalpa is a technical term. I am unsure how to evaluate the claims being made in the article at present. ] 22:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Nope == | |||
| That is false. Speedy deletion trumps MFD, and this was a valid speedy (G7). ] 13:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi IPSOS. Further to the thread at the noticeboard, it's a courtesy to drop an admin a note at their talk page if you think s/he has done the wrong thing, giving them a chance to explain themselves before you post to a noticeboard. In fact, never mind admins, it's courtesy to do this for any other user in good standing... and possibly those not in good standing, too. I'll AGF... it could be that you did leave Radiant a note and I missed it, in which case I apologise. Otherwise, please take this message in the friendly spirit of mild tutting in which it is intended. Cheers. --] 15:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :: IPSOS did, a note which Radiant! reverted as vandalism . -- ] | ] 16:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Sockpuppet == | |||
| Am I expected to answer this query? Please inform me of what I am supposed to do. | |||
| I am not up on all the technical aspects. ] 16:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :], it would appear that your are trying to make a point that I am a sockpuppet for merely stating the truth. If you are not familiar with the IT TEAM perhaps a quick read of the arb case may be of assistance. If you are curious as to where I have been? In school, just got my grades and so came back, but perhaps you do not welcome such editors? Well, enough, just keep in mind that ] has in the past alluded that he would pay me a visit. So, be very cautious as to trying to ID me for him/them. I am merely keeping a record as in the past I didn't and simply stuck to the editing points. I must say you lumping me in was most disappointing.PEACE] 05:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::P.S. Yes, I read the arb case before I tagged you. After reading it, I was ''much more sure'' you were a sock. Please don't post on my talk page again. Thanks. ] (]) 05:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Dear IPSOS, When will they determine if Faithinhumanity is a sockpuppet of Green108? I ask because s/he is back at BKWSU making similar edits (reversions). Thanks, Renee --] 20:16, 9 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Also the language and style of edits has a familiar ring e.g. compared to (removal of website figures) and compared to (phrase "entirely different"). The phrase "the practice" re-appears also. Regards ] 20:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==IPSOS (article)== | |||
| Hi in your article ] you say "He equates the word with part of a cryptic cipher in Liber AL (II, 76), RPSTOVAL" you explain how he reached the formula but don't explain what it might mean, in layman's terms. I think a sentence explaining it's possible meaning would be interesting for the average reader to read there. I know crowley didn't write that he knew the meaning, but I thought if a few sources agreed upon the meaning, we could put it? My theory is that it represents 'the one who will come after' and the announcer of the next aeon after crowley, I can't find any sources that exactly say that lol:) If we can find a few (even quite flakey) sources that discuss it we can include them, on the grounds that there's no alternative/it caan't be found elsewhere (unless Grant explains the formula?) anyway lol, don't know if you'd want to include this until after the AfD. My advice would be to copy the article to your user space, then even if it's delete it can be recreated sometime, and might even show up on google.] 17:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::YAY the article survived:)] 13:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Response to Sockpuppet accusation == | |||
| I responded again to your sockpuppet accusation (ISP uses dynamic IPs, there is no intent to decieve)] | |||
| == Conclusion == | |||
| I don't know what's your problem with the word ''conclusion'' but changing it to ''opinion'' weakens Davis' teachings and makes him appear unauthoritative. He descended from that lineage and in that book he is presenting each of the gurus in his own parampara. It wasn't research or scholarly work, it was a Kriya Yoga textbook written by an insider, an ordained representative of the same lineage that is being discussed. It is not a book of conjecture or hypothesis. If Davis claims that Mahavatar Babaji is Hairakhan Baba then that is clearly his conclusion, it is not some popular idea that he just presented for the readers to decide, he stated it as a fact. The person is a Guru of the Mahavatar Babaji line, not just an ordinary initiate. - ] 19:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I see from your talk page you've exercised your right to vanish. So vanish. ] (]) 23:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, quit crying, I will go back to my vanished state as soon as you stop your nonsense with the article. – ] 01:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Which I won't do, since it is not nonsense. So I'll be asking the admins to unprotect your talk page so warnings about personal attack and other incivility can be added. ] (]) 01:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I have unprotected his talk page, and I have warned him for personal attacks. However I have to say a conclusion is an opinion, so it is really not worth fighting over! Don't sweat the small stuff. ] | ] 12:16, 10 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks == | |||
| I agree that I am overreacting. Copy editing is a singularly unrewarding job. But this editor has been nothing but critical. I'm tired I guess. I appreciate your thoughts though. So thanks! Sincerely, ] 15:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == SSP == | |||
| I don't know if ] is using sockpuppets, or not. | |||
| That said, I have entered comments on that SSP report as well as the one at ]. My comments were not directly about ] though, they were about ] and ] the other two user names who are listed in both of those reports, and who are almost certainly both the same person. | |||
| One thing that makes me wonder what's really going on is that ] and ] do seem to be socks of ], but in the contribs I thought I saw an argument between FiatLux and Kephra. I can't find that diff now though, so maybe I misread it. | |||
| Since I'm not certain I feel I should be conservative in my comments on this unless more evidence appears, though the SPA issue is clear anyway. --] ] 00:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for letting me know about his new "bad faith" SSP report. I've entered comments there. Hopefully when the remaining one or two AfDs are completed this will settle down. If he continues his disruptive editing on the article pages after the AfD, please let me know, since I don't usually watch those pages. --] ] 04:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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