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{{unblock reviewed|1=I believe that ] has mistaken me as some other user, and has some sort of grudge against anyone that edits the Midnight Syndicate page if they happen to mention the band's former member or any credit to him.


:It is a copyvio. You are not violating copyright, the uploader on YouTube is the one violating ABC's copyright. He does not have permission to reproduce that interview on YouTube, thus he is violating their copyright. As such, Misplaced Pages cannot use it as we would be promoting the violation of copyright. This is why YouTube is virtually an unusable source, because people upload things that they do not have the license to upload. It doesn't matter if you attribute it to ABC, the fact remains that the actual source you are using is a violation of ABC's copyright. ] ] 00:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
* The edits I have made are very few and neutral. Mostly, I have been involved in creating new pages for books and other bands.


::Using ABC's website is fine, because they own the program. That said, most of what you had was irrelevant to this film, because this is a sequel and Zombie's portrayal of Loomis in his 2007 remake was different than what was done in the original series. Only how he characterizes Loomis in the sequel is relevant. ] ] 00:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
* I have read back through Skinny McGee's history, and it appears that he questions it when someone edits his band page, and even asks other people to edit it for him.


It is an interview for the 2009 film, not the 2007 film. Look at the date of the interview. ] (]) 00:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
* Skinny McGee has edited pages related to the Midnight Syndicate page, which he admits that he was banned from editing.
: Adding a promotional link to his band page
: When I posted a summary of the ] album by ], Skinny McGee removed my contributionsand. He is apparently banned from editing the Nox Arcana material as part of the previous ban.


:I know when the interview took place, but pay attention to the question and Zombie's response. He was initially talking about Donald Pleasance in a general sense. He was not speaking about what the actor did in the 1981 sequel, but what he did overall. That is not relevant to the 2009 film's page, because Zombie's "Loomis" was already in existence. What is relevant is what Zombie says about "his" Loomis with respect to the sequel. ] ] 01:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
* Skinny McGee entered into a discussion I was having with someone else in regard to another album calling a reference inappropriate (and I had not even posted it on the band page). Yet, he was lobbying to prevent further investigation.


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* Skinny McGee questioned my removal of a Midnight Syndicate album cover when policy clearly states that albums go on album pages, not band pages.
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* Things I was blamed for by Skinny McGee but did '''NOT''' edit...
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:] removed a "See also" link to Nox Arcana from Midnight Syndicate. That was NOT one of my edits. That link was placed there by ]. When I edited other text, that link was just copied as part of the older text so I would not lose the page formatting.


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* I removed an incorrect statement and validated my reason for doing this on the talk page. I further defined the role of Joseph Vargo here and added a date for the event.


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* I have adhered to policy ] and have made neutral edits.


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* And yet have been told that sources such as The Internet Movie Database is ''not'' reliable. I have been told that Midnight Syndicate's autobiography ''is'' accepted, yet when I referenced Garfinkle's bio on IMDB and on his own website, I am told it is not acceptable--and Garfinkle is a composer with tons of movie and tv credits to his name. I'm not talking about an indie band here. That is my only complaint with this subject.
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* I have been a victim of circumstance. I did not truly realize the in-depth history of this band war between Midnight Syndicate and Nox Arcana until I found out first hand from Skinny McGee. I know there was controversy, but I had no idea that it was so hot. I was not banned for sonething specific, but because my edits were "close" to someone else's. I don't think there was much investigation into that at all, and I feel that both Skinny McGee and the people who banned me have been biased against me for not good reason. I was not given the benfit or courtesy of even a comment on my talk page. All this was done behind my back.
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* I will not edit the Midnight Syndicate article, so long as Skinny McGee is warned from editing the Nox Arcana articles and from removing valid references to Nox Arcana from other pages. How does that sound to everyone? ] 10:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)|decline=You are blocked for 48 hours because your contributions and checkuser data lead us to believe you are ] or someone close to him. Therefore the topic ban applies to you, and you may not edit any related articles. You are welcome to contribute on the talk page of the said articles after the block expires, since your edits appear to have been made in good faith. Please read the notice at the top of ]. — -- ] <sup>]</sup> 10:37, 23 August 2007 (UTC)}}


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Dear Lucas, that was fast. Did you even read my contributions? Most of what I posted WAS on talk pages, not in articles. Also, would you please enter this today on my behalf... I would appreciate the turn of fair play, if I am to be singled out for another person's wrongdoings.


Please read a template before you remove it, "Please do not remove this tag." It then goes on to explain what to do if you feel it is non-replaceable. Nothing is listed in the rationale or your edit summary to justify that it is non-replaceable. As such, I am going to put the template back on the file page. ] (]) 08:05, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:As a result of ],, ] is barred from editing any articles related to ] or ]. He has broken his ban on 3 occasions and exhibits a strong bias toward any editor who even mentions the name of the former band member for whom Skinny McGee holds a strong aversion..


:Actually I did read the license before I added the template. It does state it is not replaceable, but there is no reason given to back it up. In fact, all of your edits show me that it is replaceable, so I my addition of the template is still correct in my opinion because the licensing is wrong. If this is a picture of the most recent members and they are still together as a band, then it is likely a free image could be found or created. ] (]) 17:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
*Adding a promotional link to the ] page.
* Removal of content from the Nox Arcana's ] album page. and.
* Skinny McGee is Lobbying for removal of content and to Prevent further investigation into references that relate to a Midnight Syndicate album credentials calling a reference inappropriate (and it was not even posted on the band page).
* He maliciously sought to ban an editor ], presenting slanted evidence against the person, which was taken at face value with no investigation of the content.


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A band's own website is not really a reliable source. Remember that wikipedia is not a repository of everything that someone claims but rather everything that is verifiable. Otherwise we might as well just publish press releases. Regardless, you are much more insistent on fighting over this than I am, so I'm backing off. If you happen to have any connection to the band by the way, ethics dictates you disclose that. ] (]) 03:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
:see your ] page for my reply. Also, I thought you were asking for more references. I didn't think your edit was the final word on the matter. So there's no fight. ] (]) 09:41, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
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Yes. It's the first after that paragraph. I located the archived article on the actual newspaper site. ] (]) 07:12, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
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It is a copyvio. You are not violating copyright, the uploader on YouTube is the one violating ABC's copyright. He does not have permission to reproduce that interview on YouTube, thus he is violating their copyright. As such, Misplaced Pages cannot use it as we would be promoting the violation of copyright. This is why YouTube is virtually an unusable source, because people upload things that they do not have the license to upload. It doesn't matter if you attribute it to ABC, the fact remains that the actual source you are using is a violation of ABC's copyright.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Using ABC's website is fine, because they own the program. That said, most of what you had was irrelevant to this film, because this is a sequel and Zombie's portrayal of Loomis in his 2007 remake was different than what was done in the original series. Only how he characterizes Loomis in the sequel is relevant.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It is an interview for the 2009 film, not the 2007 film. Look at the date of the interview. Ebonyskye (talk) 00:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I know when the interview took place, but pay attention to the question and Zombie's response. He was initially talking about Donald Pleasance in a general sense. He was not speaking about what the actor did in the 1981 sequel, but what he did overall. That is not relevant to the 2009 film's page, because Zombie's "Loomis" was already in existence. What is relevant is what Zombie says about "his" Loomis with respect to the sequel.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

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Actually I did read the license before I added the template. It does state it is not replaceable, but there is no reason given to back it up. In fact, all of your edits show me that it is replaceable, so I my addition of the template is still correct in my opinion because the licensing is wrong. If this is a picture of the most recent members and they are still together as a band, then it is likely a free image could be found or created. Aspects (talk) 17:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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If the previous user would stop removing the Fair use album template, then there would not be a problem. I entered the copyright info again. Ebonyskye (talk) 22:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

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I meant to fix the error that previously existed. Previously the link was to Something This Way Comes (phrase), that page was apparently removed at some point. The phease which refers to the line in Macbeth, but the music album is actually is reference to the novel by Bradbury. I'll go about fixing it. Ebonyskye (talk) 20:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

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A band's own website is not really a reliable source. Remember that wikipedia is not a repository of everything that someone claims but rather everything that is verifiable. Otherwise we might as well just publish press releases. Regardless, you are much more insistent on fighting over this than I am, so I'm backing off. If you happen to have any connection to the band by the way, ethics dictates you disclose that. Wickedjacob (talk) 03:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

see your talk page for my reply. Also, I thought you were asking for more references. I didn't think your edit was the final word on the matter. So there's no fight. Ebonyskye (talk) 09:41, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Is there a specific quote from a reliable source to this effect that you could provide? Wickedjacob (talk) 04:57, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes. It's the first ref after that paragraph. I located the archived article on the actual newspaper site. Ebonyskye (talk) 07:12, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Almost forgot, here is where this appears on the band's Facebook page, where they refer to a haunted attraction based on their albums. 1, 2, 3. Should I add these references? I've seen other articles on Misplaced Pages use Facebook posts as refs. Ebonyskye (talk) 07:48, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

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