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Nomad (app)

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The app seems to have no notability and what appears to be a bogus link to another company, with no reliable sources confirming it. The sources provided with mentions of the Nomad app appear to be promotional in nature and therefore I believe that this article should be deleted. Nyxion303 (talk) 10:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

KEEP - Not sure what exactly the Nominator means by bogus link to another company. If he means their website URL is not them, then he is wrong. There is a link to their website from Apple here and also Aljazeera, so there is nothing bogus about it. Here are a list of sources that confirm they are notable: NY Times has a good coverage on them, Wall Street Journal has coverage on them, CNBC has selected them as one of 9 best eSIM cards and has a good amount of info on them, techradar has a great lengthy review on them and Drift Travel has a review on them. There are several others, but I believe these are enough to show notability.

I also think this nominator may not have enough experience yet to be doing deletion nominations, seeing that his account was only created about 15 days ago at the time of nomination. Maybe he should hold off doing nominations, until he is more experienced. I will be checking some of his other edits/nominations (if any) and if I find any issues, I'll report him to the admins.Jasonswat (talk) 10:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

DELETE ADDITIONAL COMMENT— In regards to the “bogus link to another company” comment that I made, allow me to explain. In the history section of the article, there is a mention of the app being “a business line of LotusFlare, Inc., a company founded by former Facebook and Microsoft engineers”. What I meant is that the fact the company (Nomad) is owned by another company which was founded by former engineers of well-known companies is being used as a way to make Nomad appear more notable. A company does not automatically become notable because of their parent company or the founders of the parent company it belongs to.
The article itself fails to demonstrate that Nomad, meets WP:GNG. To be notable, a topic must have received significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. While the app is mentioned in several sources, the coverage appears to be brief or trivial. Many of the references in the article (e.g: TechRadar, Mashable, PCMag) are general roundups or listicles of "best eSIMs for travel," where Nomad is briefly mentioned without substantial analysis or focus.
The sources cited (e.g: New York Times, Wall Street Journal) mention Nomad in the context of eSIM technology, but these mentions do not provide significant coverage focused on Nomad itself. The app itself does not appear to offer any groundbreaking technology or features that distinguishes it significantly from competitors. The services it provides (e.g: mobile data plans for international travelers, regional eSIM plans) are common in the eSIM industry and are offered by many similar companies. As a result, the subject does not appear to contribute uniquely or meaningfully to the broader field of eSIM or telecommunications technology.
While the app is noted for its use during communication blackouts in Gaza, the mention is trivial and not well-supported by significant independent coverage. This does not elevate the app to notability in terms of enduring or widespread coverage.
Some other sources, like Mashable and TechRadar, appear to be affiliate or promotional content, which is discouraged under Misplaced Pages's guidelines (WP:NOTADVERTISING). The article includes promotional language, such as descriptions of Nomad’s features and services, without critical or analytical discussion. Phrases like "Nomad eSIMs take the tension out of international data travel" (sourced from Mashable) and the inclusion of extensive product details suggest that the article may serve more as an advertisement than as a neutral encyclopedia entry.
On your last point. I appreciate your concern that you believe I may be an inexperienced editor. We all start from somewhere. However, threatening to report me to the administrators is not appropriate. If you find something worthy of the administrator team's attention, by all means make them aware but please don't use that as a way to discourage myself or other editors to make contributions to Misplaced Pages. I have seen editors who have been here for years who are clueless about so much and I have seen other editors who know so much in a short period of time because of their genuine interest.
Time on Misplaced Pages does not automatically make someone more knowledgeable; knowledge makes someone knowledgeable. I hope we can now stay on-topic.
Nyxion303 (talk) 12:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. You cannot post additional Delete votes as a nominator as your nomination is already considered a delete vote, but welcome to post comments. You are welcome to your opinion, but I vastly disagree with your point of view. the NY Times had a good amount of coverage on them and it is one of the biggest publications. Yes they are one of many eSIM companies out there, but consistently ranked as one of the Top 10 on multiple publications. I did notice that some publications may have Amazon or affiliate links, but I have tried to avoid the ones hat have not actually performed an independent testing, so that way we can have honest reviews. As you know almost all publications make money from advertisements and affiliate links, that does not mean they are not reliable. For example CNBC describes their methodology on how they selected their top 9 list here. Drift Travel has no affiliate links and did a 9 paragraph review on them. PC Mag also has a review here and as their website the test all products that are reviewed.
Also, the fact that the founders were ex-Facebook employees is only part of their history, information commonly posted about founders on all company pages. To accuse someone of intentionally inserting that to make them notable is ridiculous. This is why I say you are not experienced enough to be nominating pages for deletion. You should refrain from further nominations until you have more experience.Jasonswat (talk) 20:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you again, Jason, for taking the time to reply. Regarding the sources you’ve provided, I’d like to respectfully disagree with your assessment of their significance under Misplaced Pages’s guidelines. While, yes, New York Times is a reputable publication, its mention of Nomad is brief and part of a broader discussion about eSIM technology. This does not constitute significant, in-depth coverage of the app itself as required by WP:GNG. Similarly, while the Wall Street Journal and other sources, such as PCMag and Drift Travel, provide reviews or mentions of Nomad, these mentions are primarily product-focused or listicles (as I mentioned in one of my previous comments) and do not analyze the app's unique impact or significance within its field. Lists like the one from CNBC, even with a stated methodology, are still curated recommendations rather than comprehensive, independent evaluations of the app’s notability. In the case of PCMag, anyone reading that will see it for what it is; a promotional piece.
Regarding the information about the founders, I want to clarify that I am not accusing anyone of intentionally inserting this detail to fabricate notability. The point is that a company's association with founders who used to be ex-employees of a known company or a parent company which in its own right may be notable does not automatically make its child-company also notable. This is a common misunderstanding, and the emphasis should remain on whether the subject itself (Nomad, in this case) meets Misplaced Pages’s notability standards independently — in this case, I'm afraid, it simply does not.
Lastly, once again, I understand your concerns about my experience level as an editor. While I am relatively new to Misplaced Pages, I have taken great care to familiarise myself with the relevant policies and guidelines, including those regarding notability. Constructive contributions on WP and adherence to policy are not exclusive to editors who have been here for years. Yourself, for example, only created your own account mere days before I did, however, I have not pointed that out for the simple reason that it is not relevant to the discussion about the deletion of the article and off-topic. I believe we should focus on the content and merits of this discussion rather than making assumptions about an editor's capabilities based on their time on the platform.
Nyxion303 (talk) 23:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

KEEP - I have reservations about the nominator's claim that it has no notability. According to my research, this app has been downloaded over 100,000 times on the Google Play Store and is ranked in the top 100 travel apps on the App Store. In addition, data from Similarweb shows that the average monthly visits to this website is around 600,000. So I think it has notability. Howiezhao (talk) 15:40, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

DELETE — ADDITIONAL COMMENT— Thank you for your input. I appreciate you writing here and for sharing the statistics. Now, while the stats about the number of app downloads, app ranking and website traffic may indicate some level of popularity, they do not in themselves satisfy Misplaced Pages's notability criteria (WP:GNG). To address each of your claim separately:
(1): Download numbers and rankings don't establish notability. Misplaced Pages evaluates notability based on independent, significant, and reliable secondary sources (WP:GNG). Stats like app downloads (100,000+) or rankings on app stores (e.g: top 100 travel apps) are primary data and metrics provided by platforms like the Google Play Store or the Apple App Store. These metrics reflect usage but don't actually equate to significant independent coverage by reliable sources that analyse or report on the app's impact, innovation, or even its significance. Popularity alone is insufficient to meet notability standards, as noted underWP:POPULARITY.
(2): A website's traffic does not, also, prove its notability. Data shared from Similarweb, such as 600,000 monthly visits (only 30% of which is organic according to the same site), is similarly a measure of popularity or activity like the one shared about app downloads. It does not substitute for independent and in-depth coverage about the app itself. High traffic numbers or app activity do not inherently demonstrate the subject's encyclopedic value or warrant a standalone article unless supported by secondary sources discussing why the app is notable (WP:NWEB).
To put simply, the app has a lack of substantial independent coverage and the article primarily relies on brief mentions in the sources provided that list the app alongside competitors or other promotional-style mentions (please see my previous response for an in-depth comment on this). These sources do not provide significant, in-depth coverage that would meet the threshold for WP:GNG for a standalone article. The author may, should he wish, to edit the parent company's Misplaced Pages article and mention Nomad under one of the company's child which I think may be a suitable compromise.
There is one more thing that I would like to mention without making any assumptions. Your account is 8 years old and has made only one contribution to Misplaced Pages (Special:Contributions/Howiezhao); it is the one asking for this article to remain on Misplaced Pages. It does raise concerns about possible conflicts of interest (WP:COI) or the account being used as a single-purpose account (WP:SPA). While having an old account with no contributions is not inherently a problem, the fact that the account’s sole contribution in 8 years is to advocate for keeping a specific article does appear, well, suspicious. It may seem as though the account is being used solely to influence the outcome of the deletion discussion. Others may see it differently. Nyxion303 (talk) 18:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
This might be due to lack of your knowledge with Misplaced Pages, as you were not able to figure out that the guy has almost 100 edits in other Wikis such as Wikidata and Chinese Misplaced Pages. Check this link: Special:CentralAuth/Howiezhao. Either that or you are purposely trying to downplay his status to make him look like he was not qualified for voting. Although I do agree that per Misplaced Pages policies download stats are not to be considered for notability. Jasonswat (talk) 20:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out that @Howiezhao has contributions on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikidata and the Chinese Misplaced Pages. Now, while I appreciate you sharing this, I believe my initial concerns about the account’s activity in relation to this discussion remain valid.
While the account has 108 contributions across Wikidata and Chinese Misplaced Pages, nearly all of these edits appear to have occurred before 2019 — over six years ago. To add to that, it is also Howiezhao’s very first edit on the English Misplaced Pages. It is very unusual for an account with no prior activity on any wikis at all for such a long period of time, none in the English Misplaced Pages since their account creation, to suddenly participate in a deletion discussion, raising questions about whether the account may be acting as a single-purpose account (WP:SPA) in this instance.
To be clear, my concern is not to “downplay” their contributions to other Wikimedia projects, but rather to highlight the possibility of a WP:COI or coordinated effort to influence the outcome of this deletion discussion. This is particularly relevant given the timing and context of their participation, coupled with the lack of any activity on other wikis as well for the last six years.
Ultimately, the focus of this discussion should remain on whether the article meets Misplaced Pages’s notability criteria, specifically WP:GNG. I hope we can avoid distractions and continue working towards a consensus based on policy and guidelines. Again, I thank you for pointing this out, and I welcome further discussion. Nyxion303 (talk) 00:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Seems suspicious that, while this user has made edits on other wikis, this vote is their first edit on enwiki. ~Darth Stabro 23:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Arcadia Global School Dubai

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There are no independent reliable sources with significant coverage that are not reviews, guides or PR pieces using the same images. The sources do not pass the WP:SIRS check and fails NCORP. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 08:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

U.S. automobile production figures

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WP:NOTSTATS with no inline citations and mostly essay content in the lead, and arbitrarily cut off at 2000. WP:SYNTH may also be a concern because the sources used might have different methodologies for estimating production in a given model year. PROD contested because:

Objecting to deletion, there are citations, and this information doesn't appear available elsewhere on Misplaced Pages and it provides valuable information, I'm not sure why this should be deleted
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But "valuable information" and "not available elsewhere" are not valid justifications for collections of data, especially a year-by-year breakdown over an entire century that does not include all companies. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Ace

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It has been 4 years, and not even one has been made, this is why we have wp:not, it failes this for many reasons. Slatersteven (talk) 17:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Jennifer Cook

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Fails WP:NBASIC. Mostly press releases and trivial mentions. The only potentially useful coverage I could find is her profile in pharmexec.com. C F A 21:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Walden Asset Management

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 10:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Viola Group

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. This article was AFD before but I don't really agree with the provided sources by the now-blocked user. They don't seem to pass WP:SIRS in my view regarding the subject itself. Another user has tagged this article for multiple issues including notabilit. It also doesn't help this article is created by a suspected paid editor who has 5 out of 6 articles deleted with this being the last one remaining.

I am submitting this article to look at this again given that NCORP requirements are more stringent now. Imcdc Contact 05:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

PAAMCO

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Had a lot of COI and promotional edits. A quick search focuses only on the subject being part of a merger with another entity so the current subject in article no longer operates under this name. Imcdc Contact 04:45, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

IREDES

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Orphaned artcile without any verification of notability. Website is defunct, no evidence this is a notable standard, if even ever used. ZimZalaBim 16:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

All seem like just passing mention, not any significant coverage or engagement. --ZimZalaBim 17:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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Top Third Ventures

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for notability issues for years. Imcdc Contact 10:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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Ravi Kant (Indian executive)

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Non notable executive, fails wp:GNG. Zuck28 (talk) 08:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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Smoothstack

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Post-PROD undeletion; article doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG. All coverage based on a single incident. As disclosed, I am an employee of the company. TimJohn67 (talk) 14:36, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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American Chamber of Commerce in Turkey

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The people in the 2016 discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/American_Chamber_of_Commerce_in_Turkey who did not want the article deleted have not added or suggested any inline sources and I don't think the general sources listed are enough to show notability. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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Sudbury Downtown Master Plan

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Article that was previously soft-deleted at AFD due to limited participation, and was then WP:REFUNDed following a request by its creator, but has not actually seen any further improvement to actually address the reasons why it was deleted in the first place: it's still not properly referenced as passing Misplaced Pages inclusion criteria for this type of topic.
Things like this might be valid article topics if they were well-referenced, but are not "inherently" notable just because they exist -- but except for one "article" (really just a reprint of a press release) in Canadian Architect magazine, this is otherwise still referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability at all, such as content self-published by the city and content self-published by the Ontario Association of Architects, with not a single new source having been added since the refund to strengthen its notability at all.
We already have articles about many of the individual buildings involved here, which can already cover off virtually any content we would actually need about this, but the "master plan" itself would need much better sourcing than this to become notable enough for its own standalone article. Bearcat (talk) 17:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 17:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: Well, it never went anywhere... . I can confirm the Superstack is being torn down (I have family in Sudbury, so hear about it from time to time), but this "master plan" was really only ever a big idea. Downtown still looks exactly the same as it did before the Plan happened, and nothing has happened since it was "dusted off" in the article above. If you want to add a few lines to the main Sudbury article, that's fine... Ten plus years on, this thing never happened, so I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 19:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Jamalon

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Fails WP:GNG; WP:NCORP and NOTCRUNCHBASE very much applies here. Defunct - mostly Arabic - booksales website/POD operation in the Middle East, first in Jordan then the UAE. It started up, it closed down. There is no enduring impact or change in the market that resulted from its existence. The only likely ATD would be a redirect to Fadi Ghandour, but at the most it would be one of hundreds, if not thousands, of investments that Ghandour has made - and it's not really outstanding or worthy of a merge at his page. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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