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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a ]! Please ] on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out ] or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! ] ] 04:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC) |
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Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Please do not add unreferenced or inadequately referenced controversial ] to Misplaced Pages articles{{{{{subst|}}}#if:Rosalind Picard|, as you did to ]}}. Thank you.<!-- Template:Blp0 --> ] 18:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== 3RR == |
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{{{icon|] }}}You currently appear to be engaged in an ]{{{{{subst|}}}#if:Rosalind Picard|  according to the reverts you have made on ]}}. Note that the ] prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the ]. If you continue, you may be ] from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a ] among editors. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 04:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC) |
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If you have a US or Canadian phone number I will call you. Email it to me and let me know.--] 04:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Moulton, please do not revert edits on the article. The rules (sorry I know you hate the rules) are that you cannot revert more than 3 times in 24 hours or your access will be blocked. You are well over that limit I am afraid. You can end up getting blocked for days, or even have your IP blocked. So just let things continue as we investigate. Do not get overanxious, or they will block/ban you.--] 13:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Removing or editing others comments == |
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{{{icon|] }}}Please do not ] legitimate talk page comments{{{{{subst|}}}#if:talk:Rosalind Picard|, as you did at ]}}. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be ]. If you would like to experiment, please use the ]. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}}<!-- Template:uw-tpv2 --> <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 14:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:The vandalism was the insertion into the page of a controversial issue which has no bearing on the subject of the page. The material had evidently been inserted because some previous editors erroneously believed and took at face value some recent propaganda published by a Seattle public relations firm that had no connection to the subject. The previous editors evidently adopted the unwarranted assumption that the propaganda amounted to a verified fact. |
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== Request to Misplaced Pages Administrator == |
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Joshua, would you be kind enough to nominate an ombudsman or mediator to resolve a perplexing conflict between myself and ] regarding alleged violations of ]? I am concerned about the recurring publication of libelous falsehoods causing serious harm to scientists and academics with whom I am affiliated. Please feel free to E-Mail me if you need further information. Many thanks. ] 05:16, 25 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Ombudsman == |
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I don't think I can help you out with that since having reviewed the issue, I completely agree with Hrafn42 and Guettarda and disagree with both your position and actions there. My advice is take some time to better learn how Misplaced Pages actually handles these issues then revisit the articles; I think you'll find then your concern is unwarranted. ] 05:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Is there a ] than you that I can appeal to? |
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:Is there some way we can talk over the phone so that I can explain to you (or anyone else you care to nominate) what I am concerned about and why? I am frustrated by my inability to get to the ] in this vexatiously crippling rule-bound system, as it only seems to be able to get to what most editors happen to believe, without providing any reliable functional process for getting past misconceptions into the ]. Science itself provides such a functional process known as the ], but Misplaced Pages doesn't operate on that paradigm. Instead it operates on an anachronistic rule-based paradigm that wobbles to what the most dominant Misplaced Pages editors believe. When it comes to characterizing living persons, that paradigm is demonstrably fraught with errors that are nigh impossible to fix. |
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:There are famous cases in history when the vast majority of people held laughable misconceptions. But science is an arduous process, and many dedicated scientists have suffered grievously for having the temerity to displace a popular misconception with a superior theory grounded in evidence and reasoning. |
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:Getting people to honestly question their assumptions and conscientiously examine both their assumptions and the evidence for them is one of the recurring challenges in science education. |
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:As a science educator, it pains me beyond words to observe how badly we have failed to inculcate a scientific mindset into the educable public. |
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::For more information on how Misplaced Pages works, please refer to ] on ] and ]: |
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::{{cquote|You see, any user can change any entry, and if enough other users agree with them, it becomes true. ... We should apply these principles to all information. All we need to do is convince a majority of people that some factoid is true. ... What we're doing is bringing democracy to knowledge.}} |
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::Hopefully this helps clarify the inner workings of Misplaced Pages. :) (Coincidentally and conversely, one could also apply such theories to the re-emergence of creationism, i.e. it doesn't need to be true for it to become fact as long as enough people insist it is.) ] 08:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I appreciate your perspective and your levity. Please see for a more analytical version of the same sentiment. ] 12:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== WP:POINT == |
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Please make yourself familiar with ] and avoid stunts like this again . ] 22:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==So-called "anti-evolution" petition controversy redrafted== |
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Having had a look at your concerns, I've added a section ]. Feel free to comment. Please realise that Misplaced Pages is a tertiary source, and can only reflect published information that can be ] ]. .. ], ] 16:18, 28 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:I appreciate your assistance, Dave. I'll go take a look at your suggestions now. ] 21:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC) |
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{{{icon|] }}}If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about {{#if:Rosalind Picard|in the article ]|on Misplaced Pages}}, you may have a ]. In keeping with Misplaced Pages's ] policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should '''avoid''' or '''exercise great caution''' when: |
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For information on how to contribute to Misplaced Pages when you have conflict of interest, please see ]. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see ]. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}}<!-- Template:uw-coi --> ] 08:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::I was not writing about a ''person'' there. I am writing about two competing ''practices''. One is the practice, which I support, of adhering to the protocols of the scientific method. The other is the practice, which I abhor, of adopting the propagandist technique of ] which is both dishonest and unethical. I am utterly appalled that you would engage in the insidious and pernicious practice of ], in gross and egregious violation of ]. ] 09:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::The statement which she put her name to was anti-evolution when she put her name to it, and it remains anti-evolution today. No reframing need be involved to reach that assessment. But regardless of that, you violated the ] guidelines by making a ''controversial'' edit to the article on her, and none of your hair-splitting can change that fact. ] 09:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::That's your personal interpretation, your spin, which ''agrees'' with DI's intentional ] of a statement regarding the appropriate application of the protocols of the ]. You are free to engage in the insidious, pernicious, and unethical practice of intentional ] if it pleases you, but it would be '''unworthy''' of an ethical editor of Misplaced Pages to adopt that abhorrent propagandist practice. Since I would rather see you in a positive light than a negative one (and the same for Wikipedians in general), I urge you to abandon the contentious practice of ]. ] 10:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
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