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== Portal:Atheism == | |||
==This will amuse you== | |||
Good to see the nice work that you have done on ]. I had a little plan to have the atheists in ] in an alphabetical order for the first 26. Got myself stuffed up at H. Not sure if there is actually an atheist for every letter of the alphabet but there could well be. BUT that is not a very formal and encyclopaedic manner for one to go about creating the worlds foremost source of knowledge.... -- ] <small>]</small> 08:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
See this from an editor who's complaining that her POV edits to the ] article is being reverted because they are unsourced BS. ] 03:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Oh right...lol, I just threw them in at random (except for douglas adams), sorry. I was thinking, that since the best articles are basically the biographies, that it might be nice the theme each week around a bio, so for instance dawkins might be associated with metaphysical naturalism, hitchens with antitheism, d'holbach with history of atheism, rushdie with apostasy in islam, for instance. It might be a stretch though to find appropriate articles. Oh and how do you like the colour scheme? ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 08:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Oh don't act like you're surprised... hey on a related topic have you seen ]? ] 04:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Speaking of abominations. Just pull up an article on a random herb or spice. Many of them have paragraphs on how they cure everything. I just went to ]. I might have been harsh in eliminating the section, but see if you agree. I can't believe what has filtered into this project. ] 01:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Need your assistance at ]. Thanks. ] 08:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Hmmm, alright I had a look at the US an Uk sections, and tried to condense them a bit. The article is way too long. On the coriander thing, yeah I agree with you cutting it out, but I reckon as far as <i>historical</i> use goes it's reasonable to note medicinal uses through the ages. ] 00:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::I think some people are trying to make Homepathy something it shouldn't be. ] 06:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
(ri) Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm waiting to see what Fill has in mind for a final form first. ] 07:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I'm thinking that his mind was taken over by aliens. ] 22:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah, the colour scheme is a bit nicer that the rather washed out colours that were there originally. The theme thing sounds like a nice idea but it may go over the heads of most visitors (or perhaps won't be so obvious). I don't have a lot of time at the moment. I SHOULD be studying and am spending TOO MUCH time on WP. Will keep in touch when I have more time. Cheers. -- ] <small>]</small> 09:17, 15 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
Probably. I tried to strike a balance, but I really got burned out on that mess. It wouldnt be so bad if the writing were not so horrible. Oh well. Let the next guy have a go at it.--] 23:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Well considering the kind of sloppy, obscurantist thinking responsible for the homeopathy, it's not terribly surprising an article substantially contributed to by homeopaths would reflect that. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 23:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Well, I was thinking of it as more of an organising principle than anything else. I might knock together a couple of preview versions tomorrow to see how it looks. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 13:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Even trying to get a confirmation of how exactly the dilution system of D, X, C, L, M etc works just ended up nowhere and I was given the run around, and told how easy it was and we didn't need to explain it. I am sorry, but I have a doctorate in mathematical physics, and I am sure it is simple, but if it is not transparent to me, then I think lots of others will find it confusing. I can try to guess as to what they mean, and spend hours looking up horribly written documents, but should I have to? I have spotted some stuff that looks inconsistent, but...ugh...what a mess. Surely the first rule should be to write clear English for English wikipedia. The second rule should be to explain technical terms, and make calculations clear. But somehow, that all seems a bit too much to ask...--] 23:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Fringe POV pushing at black hole == | |||
::Agreed, but plain english I suspect is anathema to pseudoscience. It's easy to hang all kinds of wild, unsupported claims and hand-wavery, off of ill defined terms like "miasma", "chi", "energy" or "quantum", without ever having to provide a concrete definition of those terms. So long as your audience doesn't ask, or you can give them the impression that you know of things they aren't capable of understanding, you can sell them tap water as a cure for any disease they happen to suffer from. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 23:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
You stop. I haven't introduced anything non-factual into the black hole article. If you think I have, the burden is on you to either show that I haven't espoused the consensus view or at the very least defend your changes in talk. I look forward to your response in the black hole talk page. You may begin by citing non-factual information you suggest I inserted. I'll wait a reasonable amount of time and then I'll simply revert your nonsense. ] 14:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Very well put. Homeopaths seek to prey on those who are intellectually deficient and fear those who are not, hence plain English (or any other language for that matter) dooms them either way. I'd still like to see a mathematical proof for "water memory". ] 17:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No the burden is on you to provide a ]. You appear to be pushing an extreme fringe point of view, against consensus, and introducing weasel words. Also there's nothing I can say to you that hasn't ] on the talk page regarding your edits. I notice further that rather than responding to it, you are engaging in a slow edit war. I suggest you re-read ] and pay close attention to the section on undue weight and pseudoscience. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 14:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
==]== | |||
It would appear that ConfuciusOrnis is incapable of taking constructive criticism and even of having links to his edit history posted here on his talk page. For the sake of brevity I will not reinsert the evidence I placed here which has been deleted. Instead, I will simply post a to the material that ConficiusOrnis seems to be so ashamed of that he deletes it wholly from his talk page. Are these the actions of an innocent user? ] 15:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
Oh, you've got to help here.] 06:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:You're funny. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 16:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Criticism of religion. == | |||
As are you. ] 16:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Flamarande == | |||
I'll look at it tomorrow morn. I've been less active lately, but I should be able to cast a discerning eye on the article. Kudos, anyway, for requesting the other side's opinion.--] 08:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
==]== | |||
I just wanted to clarify my edit that you reverted on the ] page. I was not pushing POV in fact I was partially reverting someone else's attempted to push it and attempting to create a sort of compromise version. Check the history to be clear. No big deal I just didn't want you to think that I was trying to slant the ] page. {{unsigned|Daniel J. Leivick|03:12, 17 July 2007}} | |||
:Sorry, I did see the history, it was a bit of knee-jerk on my part I have to admit. When you spend a lot of time editing creationist articles, that 99% number is one that always gets attacked. ] 03:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Thanks,I truly did not know where to report this as I usually don't get insulted. I usually simply revert minor cases of vandalism but I fear that this case is getting out of hand, and I am not interested in a slug-feast. Must I do anything else? ] 16:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Unexplained removal of edits in Noah's Ark article == | |||
:Just keep an eye on the thread and and answer any questions reviewers might have. Beyond that, you may end up having to go through some sort of ], depending on the situation. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 16:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
Is there a reason why you removed without explanation the edits I made to the Noah's Ark article today? --] 09:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:They're a copyright violation. See the note I left on the ]. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 09:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::They are not a copyright violation in any way, as I have cited the source and have permission to use the material in the form in which it was included in the article. I have added details on the ]. --] 09:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Amazing, I truly wasn't expecting such a quick answer and such quick action. Now I need to know how someone can restore the affected articles. I mean, can I simply restore them? Is there a deadline or something similar? As for ], fine by me. I have nothing to hide. I placed the incidents page in my watchlist. It may take a while before I answer though as I'm not always at home (I do have a live besides Misplaced Pages :). ] 16:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Vandalism of user page == | |||
::::Well, that really depends on how many times you've reverted today, remember if you violate the ] you can be blocked. So if you've only made one or two reverts on that article today, you should be ok if you restore it right now. It's better though in all cases to discuss the matter on the talk page if possible and try to get consensus. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 16:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Hello! == | |||
It's your user page he's vandalizing, which is a serious matter, and he has long since passed 3rr a couple places. This is serious harassment. Report him and get him blocked immediately. -- <i><b><font color="004000">]</font></b></i>/<b><font color="990099" size="1">]</font></b> 21:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yes I do know what he was vandalising... that was a slip of terminology on my part ;)... to be honest I'm not big on reporting people, since he seems to be using the talk pages of the articles in question now. PS I got your mail, cheers for that, but I am trying to be more careful now. Once bitten twice shy and all that. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> | |||
:: Let's hope he learns or the next block will be a longer one. -- <i><b><font color="004000">]</font></b></i>/<b><font color="990099" size="1">]</font></b> 22:07, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Yeah I saw, thanks for that. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 22:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Ornis, I swear you're like flypaper for freaks. ;) ] 22:22, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::I know, what's up with that, do you think perhaps the anti-war poem or strong-atheist userbox has something to do with it ;) <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 22:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hello ConfuciusOrnis! I am RS1900. Thanks for infobox you created for atheism. I am also an atheist. I think you have done a great job for the article 'Atheism'. All the best. ] 05:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::Probably both. But you really do attract the weirdos. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 23:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:One more thing: I read some comments on your talk page and few users suggested that 'there is no real proof of Evolution'. Who are these people? They don't understand anything about evolution. ] 05:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Someone has nominated the article ] for deletion! See:]. What's going on? The article shouldn't be deleted! Please support the article. All the best! ] 06:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::I wouldn't be too concerned about such poorly thought out AfD's as that. Just keep an eye on his contribs, he also likes to tag smaller atheism related articles that don't get much attention for speedy deletion, without notifying the articles creator, and unfortunately admins don't always check the article actually meets the criteria unless someone contests the deletion. As for the people above suggesting there is no real proof for evolution, I think you'll find that all but one of them is joking. ;) ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 07:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::A thought — would the article ] be better placed in ]? One thing I see a lot of on the C++ and Java articles are complaints about Misplaced Pages not being for tutorials, etc. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 12:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::Nah, see to me, that sounds like a variant of the ''"..that's what simple english wikipedia is for.."'' argument. Wikibooks is a different project, with different goals and a different format for presenting information. Certainly there should be a wikibook introducing evolution, genetics, relativity et al, but that's no reason why we shouldn't also strive to make technical subjects as accessible as possible to all readers within reason. Intro forks are simply just the neatest way of achieving that. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 12:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::I'm not familiar with other intro forks (and I'm also pretty sure that the wikibook suggestion was ''not'' the motivation for the AfD), but looking at the policy ] (4th point), it does seem ambiguous. Obviously (to me, at least), this article is both presenting facts and " subject matter". Don't get me wrong, this is not a crusade I'm on, and I don't really care if that policy subpoint is strictly adhered to, but I did think it prudent to throw it out for people to be aware of. OTOH, this article does not have "leading questions and step-by-step problem solutions as examples", so perhaps one could argue that it's ''not'' teaching subject matter. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 13:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::Additional comment: I just read Sander Säde's comment on the AfD and I thought it was very well said. I don't really have anything to add to that discussion (and there already seems to be an overwhelming consensus), so I'm curious as to whether ] would suggest I not leave my comment, or whether that guideline is just stating that the arguments matter more than the vote, etc. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 13:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
==You might also want to look at this...== | |||
Hey ConfuciusOrnis, you may also want to look at ] now, as he is trying to accuse you of wikistalking. Perhaps it's best to just leave him serve his block and perhaps cool off, but I thought that you might want to know. Thanks for helping to at least get him onto the talk page.... I assumed he was new, but I am not so sure now. ] 22:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah I did see that, and no I think you're right it's best to let him cool off. I still reckon he's newbie, though made me wonder for a moment or two. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 23:12, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah, when I first read that, I thought he was saying read ], but then I re-read it and realized he wasn't referring to policy. Anyway, I've tried to talk to him a little on his page, to let him know about policy, and what we are all trying to do here, despite (and through) our conflicting points of view. I hope it helps, but if not, I'm sure that he'll buy himself a permanent block quickly. Either way, I'll step up my checks on these pages for a while. I'm off to bed; it's 1:20 in the morning here in Paris. ] 23:22, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::::(ec+exp)The articles in question, either are, or are striving to, present the material in essentially the same manner as their parent article, with the difference they take a less technical approach to make them more accessible to younger or lay readers. As for the AfD it's not '''just''' a vote, so voicing support is always useful though in this case, it's pretty much snowballed. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 13:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
==]== | |||
Thanks, that is an more descriptive summary that provides a decent rationale for the change.--] <sup>'']''</sup> 01:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No worries. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 01:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::A lot of effort goes into finding good academic sources llike this. The entire article lends a context to Ramsey's statement. Your help in providing helpful edits & suggestions to improve their usage would be appreciated if you don't like the current proposed verbiage with the source. The statement in its fundamental aspects is not biased, critical or POV. Understand QW means business when it goes after its quarries - as expressed joyfully or in complimentary fashion by various fellow travellers in QW authors' publications, in approving tones about their actions and targets. Thank you.--] 08:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== My ocd == | ||
You've been helping out with putting citations in templates at ], which is grand but there's a lot of repetition of sources, and ] seems to have had in mind ]. The ] page is a bit out of date as new systems come in, but my experience of being introduced to a Harvard system (and helped to implement it) at ] makes me think that the current version of this would suit the Huxley article very well. Unfortunately the "Cite book" templates lack a function to link from the "Harvnb" cites in a notes section to the reference itself, but they are supposed to be ok for use with Harvard referencing, so the templates could be moved to a new "References" section and ] used inline to provide a reference in the notes section complete with the page number. In the longer term the reference info could be moved to use ] for a link to the "References" – see also ]. Sorry this is a bit of a guddle, but the results do work well in my opinion. Your comments will be appreciated, .. ], ] 21:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:To be honest with you, I find the variety citation methods a bit confusing sometimes, but I had a look at ], and I agree with you, it would suit ] very well indeed. I'm more than happy to fix the referencing in the agreed upon manner when ] is finished adding material. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 23:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Well, I've pretty much done what I wanted to, and as agreed before I've come back to you to ask you to help out with the organisation of the refs. As mentioned before, I prefer the old name, date refs (which Wiki charmingly calls the 'Harvard system'!) especially as some of the refs come up a dozen times or more. I'm grateful to you, Dave Souza, Rusty Cashman, and especially Fred.e, for your interest and support over the long weeks. Fred.e says I've progressed quickly, but it seems a long, long time since I started. I've tried to make the page enjoyable and interesting as well as representing Hux fairly. I'm pushing for Hux to be recognised as of High Importance rather than Mid-Importance, based on his overall effect on British (+American and German) life, thinking and science. Not such a great scientist as Darwin (who is?) but a great man all the same, and hugely influential. Regards, ] 13:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::It's a bit late here, but I'll have a look tomorrow and we can see what needs to be done. I'll definitely support your push to upgrade to high importance. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 14:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Have put some suggestions on the article talk page, let me know if you want some ideas or if you'd like me to try out some as sample. In a way the first thing is to sort out the section naming. The "importance" thing comes from wikiprojects which I've never really had time or inclination to get involved in, you could always change it and make the argument, or it would probably be more polite to raise the question on the project page first. .. ], ] 16:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
The reason I was adding the category was to get it alphabetically correct in the ] itself. I'm doing this to all of those "I" items that aren't really "I" items. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Homeopathy rough draft == | |||
:Yeah I noticed that, I'm trying to fix it so the template sorts them properly, give me a bit. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 13:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Done, they should now sort properly without manually including the cat. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 13:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks. I have not yet taken to playing with templates myself. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 14:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::No worries, it's actually pretty straightforward, I just had to pipe the article name variable to the category's sorting argument. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 14:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Cool. After looking at the diff, and then the full template (and {{tl|Introduction/doc}}), I think I have a good idea of how they work now. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 14:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Discussion on deletion page== | |||
I have finished a draft of the ] article. It obviously has some flaws in it's format and wording right now but they will be kinked out within the next couple of days. Right now what I want is for you, if you're interested in helping to improve the article, to come to the articles talk page. There we will all discuss the article and how it could be improved before we replace the current homeopathy article with it. In order for this to work we need to follow a few rules. The first rule, the most important rule, is that no one but me can edit the rough draft. <u>Do not edit the rough draft.</u> This precaution is used to prevent edit warring and loss or addition of information that might not be up to consensus. Don't worry, It's just a draft and you'll have all the time you want to make changes after we've replaced it with the current article. The second rule is that all proposed changes in the rough draft must be made on the talk page of the rough draft and must be clear and concise. At that point anyone involved will discuss the proposed changes and if agreed by consensus they will be implemented. We will do that until there is no disputes or disagreements. After all disputes are hammered out, we will replace the ] article with the rough draft. At that point there shouldn't be anyone needing to make huge edits, and if you do see an edit that you want to make, be sure to add a note on the talk page PRIOR to making the edit so that consensus can be reached and then you should make the edit. If you have any questions you can leave me a message on my talk page. Here is the link to the rough draft ]. I hope to see you there! ] <sup>]</sup> 15:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hi there, this isn't really relevant to the matter in hand - if the article meets the criteria set out in deletion policy. I have asked the original nominator to remove this comment. Would you mind if I move the discussion about User:Memestream to the discussion page of this deletion discussion? ] 22:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No not at all, I wasn't planning to continue it, I was simply reacting to the implication of bad faith on the part of the nominator. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 22:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
I've moved the discussion to the talk page and hidden the offending comment using noinclude tags. Hopefully the nominator will respond to my request on their talk page to rephrase their nomination. ] 23:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:It does sound a little odd with the offending phrase excised. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 23:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hey, shit happens. :) I'm not rewriting it for them! ] 23:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Well I was considering sticking into the sentence so it's at least grammatical. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 23:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
==afsfdsa== | |||
::You seem to have oppositions to my current rough draft. I would appreciate if you could outline some of your oppositions to it so that I can take a look at them and we can discuss them. Anything that is problematic can easily be changed. If you believe the draft is POV right now in support of Homeopathy, please tell me how you would suggest improving it. ] <sup>]</sup> 05:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
blocked from wikipedia or editing? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Blocked from editing. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 11:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==Thanks== | ||
oh, my mistake, thanks for letting me know! ] 23:29, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No worries. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 23:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
] 13:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:would you mind a discussion on the various points i addressed on the ] page rather than a revert war?] 23:46, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No worries. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 13:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Valid source == | |||
:Hey, I would like you to read my edits and point out anywhere you think that I was anything put fair with either side, I'm trying to keep a balance while pointing out both the flaws and benefits of both western medicine and herbalism. I made a lot of good edits where some 'blatant' POV pushing, as well as leading statements, by the pharmaceutical side. | |||
So you really think the author of a book is a valid source for the number of books he has sold, especially when there is not other documentation for that number?.......standards have really come down on wikipedia if this is a valid source for this claim. ] 10:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I did read you edits, and I suggest since it's you that wants to make such sweeping changes that you are the one that needs to justify them rather than edit warring over the matter. Any way I've replied on the talk page. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 23:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:You know, rather than whinging and edit warring, with even a brief google search could you could have turned up better references. Just a thought. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 13:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Your recent report to ] == | ||
Hi there, I've blocked the IP you reported to AIV. Just a quick note however, when reporting to AIV it's not really accepted that anonymous IP's are known as accounts let alone a vandalism only account. This rationale is only really applied to a registered editor who's sole aim is to disrupt Misplaced Pages, and having only vandalism edits to the account, we would then block the account indefinitely as a vandalism only account. As we are unsure if it's the same editor behind an IP address at any given time we cannot issue a permanent blocks to anonymous IP's. Oh and let's not see any more of please? Any problems please don't hesitate to give me a shout. <sup>]]</sup> 14:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
The lists need to be merge when the structure is worked out. Some will have entries under both columns with some studies confirming and others disconfirming. IMO this will be valuable to researchers. For example I just looked at 3 studies on cinnamon and Type II diabetes. One confirming at 3g, 1 disconfirming at 1g, and one confirming at both doses But the latter was done in Pakistan where people weigh less so the dose/kg may have been higher. Science need to ask these types of question.] 00:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Cayte | |||
:Righty oh then. ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 14:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Just having a look at what you're editing alot, and you most probably have it bookmarked, but hope it all the best. <sup>]]</sup> 14:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Hell yes I've got it bookmarked! Cheers all the same :). ] <b style="color:#C11B17; font-size:smaller;">(])</b> 14:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Reverted 2 edits by 72.91.75.209 identified as vandalism?== | |||
How was that vandalism?] 03:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:You realise I have no idea what your talking about right? Got a diff? ]] 13:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Given that Dave Souza has much improved the section, the argument is moot. ] 14:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== SparkPeople speedy deletion == | ||
You marked my article ] for speedy deletion. This page had been live and running for about a year when it was deleted. I re-created it with relevant information including citations to being named Best of the Web by BusinessWeek two years in a row in the Health category as well as being listed by Hitwise as the 6th most popular health site in January 2007. The company is a legitimate player in online health. I'd be happy to take any constructive criticism you may provide.] 16:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
Bibby 1959; i bought 1972 later when I realised it was a different book! ] 13:53, 4 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I have a very low tolerance for companies using wikipedia as free advertising. If you've left a note on the talk page, then it's up to the reviewing admin whether it stays at all. If it does, then you're probably going to have to re-write it from scratch, loose the peacock terms, the mission statment and the glowing marketing copy. Keep it to when the company was formed, what it's done, and any ] independent media coverage it's had. ]] 16:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I actually just replied on your talk page as you were writing this... funny.<b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 13:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I readded it. It's a damned advertisement, hence it is Spam. ] 16:34, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Can we at least discuss? I'm REALLY trying to make a legit entry, and used other Web companies as a template to create this. I'm happy to listen to constructive criticism.] 16:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::See ] for the criteria. You may be able to get this article in under Criteria #2 (Awards) but take ConfuciusOrnis's recommendations to heart. As it is, the spam red flag has gone of multiple times in my head. Think layman, not marketing. ] 16:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::This, ''SparkPeople was founded to empower people to make life changes using health and fitness as a springboard to achieving personal, relationship, and career goals.'' is an advertisement (as well as being piffle-prose). ] 17:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::Thanks for the specific constructive criticism. I've made a change. Hopefully it addresses your concern. ] 17:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::I made some more edits, but it still needs a lot more. Things like ''"...which uses tools, content, and support to lead to help users make lifestyle changes."'' rankle the hell out of me. What tools? What content? What does it mean? If you want, contact me on my user page. ] 17:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Good catch == | ||
Very, very good catch. ] <span style="color: #999;">// ] // ] //</span> 14:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
Just to say I'm grateful for the time you've spent on the refs, despite my own preference for the old way. That's just because I'm old! | |||
:Ah... well, I can't actually take credit for that ;) ]] 14:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Stop it == | |||
I was interested to read the current Encyc Brit entry for Hux by Adrian Desmond, new to me. I'm glad I didn't see it before I started, it would have influenced me too much. I see a couple of new refs have crept into the intro section; they seem appropriate, but might have been better placed under Vertebrate Palaeo. There's a tendency for intros to get so gummed up with links, refs, bold type &c. that they end up rather unreadable. But I guess I have to live with the open-ended nature of WP — after all, that's what drew me in! ] 18:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:That's alright. I added those cites to the lead, another editor tagged the phrase as being unreferenced, though personally I don't think it really needed them, it's often easier to just provide a ref than argue over it. Oh, and you should check out when you're editing other articles. It generates inline citations automatically given an ISBN, URL, PubMedID etc.. I use it quite a lot. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 11:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
You've been reverting my edits for no good reason, I know you dislike me, but that's no reason to revert good-faith quality edits. | |||
In your message to me: you said "If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Relationship between religion and science" I might have a COI. I have no close connection. I am a professional historian of science. Now, kindly put my link back. ] 14:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
You've been banned before and if you keep reverting good edits you will likely get banned again. | |||
== Hovind page == | |||
Just stop now. | |||
Hi ConfuciusOrnis. You are close to a 3RR problem in this page, as part of your dealings with driveby pro-Hovind user Nevinkoshy. I am becoming a bit frustrated myself at this sort of thing. Be that as it may; if we take up his activities as a 3RR issue, it will simply existing conventions if you don't have a 3RR yourself. Just letting you know I can see the problem, and am giving Nevinkoshy a 3RR warning as well so he can be blocked if he continues. Good luck. ''—] <small>(] '''·''' ])</small>'' 22:27, 17 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for the heads up, I am aware of 3RR and wasn't planning to revert him again if he persisted. Actually I'd already issued a couple of delete warnings but I see he's blanked his talk page. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 22:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
--] 15:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: Good; you seem to have it under control then. I'll do a revert if I see it again. Cheers ''—] <small>(] '''·''' ])</small>'' 22:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Stop making bad edits and I won't have to keep reverting them. ]] 15:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::You know they're not bad edits. --] 15:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:::You keep telling yourself that till it starts to sound true. ]] 15:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Help == | |||
== Please do not remove requests for references == | |||
Thanks man, ill read through all the stuff you gave me!! | |||
Please do not remove at will the requests for references and citations in the article ], it is not polite and it doesn't show will to make the article compliant <font color="00A813">]</font><sup><font color="00551BB3">]</font></sup> 11:22, 19 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Whatever. Please refrain from not making any sense whatsoever. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 11:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
Hi, thanks for letting me know about your problems with this template: I've hopefully addressed them, and would be grateful if you could check the template, for example ], and make sure that it's displaying closer to how its expected. Please reply on the ]. Thanks! '']'' '''<small>]</small>''' 11:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:That looks fine now, before it was nearly doubling the width of the page. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 11:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Homeopathy draft == | |||
==Okay, let me get straight== | |||
Please take another look at the draft and tell me if you think anything else should be changed. I think it's about done. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
What edit...are you reffering to ConfuciusOrnis--] 15:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
: are what I'm talking about. Don't do that please, it's incredibly poor etiquette to change someone else's choice of spelling, particularly when that choice is for religious reasons, and we don't mess with each other's sigs. Ever. ]] 15:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Let's remember ] who got banned for numerous reasons, one of which was vandalizing my spelling of G_d. It's not poor etiquette, it is anti-Semitism, plain and simple. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 15:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Ack!== | |||
''Technically'' speaking is ], so try to be careful! I agree that it's a form of medical fraud, and should be indicated as such in the strongest possible terms, but we have to keep it per ]. Just relax and discuss, perhaps go to the next level of ] and everything will work out according to policy. Edit warring doesn't lead to victory, consensus and policy do. ] <small>]</small> 00:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Was it? The dispute was over the lead, I thought it would be alright to reintroduce some of the other uncontested edits that had been lost. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 00:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah, ] can be pretty broadly applied and could cover such an edit. Personally, I agree with ya about the nature of the edit...but others might not...it's better to be safe, IMHO...;) Nobody disputed it, and it was definitely an edit in ], but caution and patience are the watchwords when in the midst of a dispute..... ] <small>]</small> 00:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Ok, that's probably wise. Thanks for the heads up. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 00:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Well, he's only eleven, so I wouldn't read too much into it. ]] 16:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Stop== | |||
::::Exactly. It's better to ] than anti-Semitism, here. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 16:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:grow up. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 04:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== tag vandalism == | |||
Generally no I agree, but in this users case, it is. He's just tag bombing and stripping the article bare in order to get it merged. It's trolling and vandalism, and the less he's fed the better. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 04:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I try to ] whenever I can! If rises to the level of harassment or vandalism, there are ways to deal with it. I notice the other article was protected with all tags intact... So far, I think both sides of this are working in good faith...I'm trying to hang onto my illusions just a tad bit longer...;) ] <small>]</small> 05:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::It doesn't really help to make accusations of trolling and vandalism, unless you have a very clear case; and then it should go through the appropriate channels to be handled. Always best to take the high road. ] <small>]</small> 06:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Highroad? Wouldn't know it if it bit me on the arse ;) <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 06:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::We're beginning to understand this about you. –––''']''' <sub>(] Ψ ])</sub> 12:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
==help!== | |||
Ornis, I need help. Someone called 'dudesleeper' is continuasly putting the wrong info on ] even though I have warned him many times. Ive tried to semi-protect the page, but it doesnt work. Any help? | |||
It’s inappropriate to make rude comments about or to another editor in the edit summaries, e.g. </br> | |||
Read through ] and ] ] <small>]</small> 17:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==PSurgery== | |||
] 11:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
Please check out the ] for approval. ] <small>]</small> 19:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I'll reply on your talk. ]] 11:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== SELFPUB + PZ == | |||
==Issues?== | |||
Please see ]. There is already a discussion about teh inclusion of miscellaneous quotes that "characterise" PZ's "writing style". By SELFPUB, wikipedia can't use primary resources to illustrate a point, that would be ]. If such a quote is notorised by a non-primry resource, we can source it back to the original. | |||
No, I have no issues with anyone, and I certainly didn't intend for my comment to come across as "snippy". I was just wondering why yourself, OM, Filll and Jim62sch show a continued tendency to reply to third-party posts on each others' talk pages as if you were the intended recipient, which is unusual etiquette here on Misplaced Pages. I can certainly say that if someone presumed to reply on my behalf on ''my'' talk page then I would be none too pleased, to say the least. However, it's clearly no big deal. Can I humbly suggest based on that you may have a tendency to overreact somewhat? ] 11:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
While the quote included may be an accurate portrayal of PZ's writing style (I'd agree it ''is''). Stating so without a reference is ]. | |||
:You've still completely failed to address why is was that you felt the need to make that remark on OM's talk page. I mean let's face it, it added nothing to the discussion, hell it wasn't even tangentially relevant. Was it just to provoke a reaction? If so then why would you wish to do that? What interest do you have in the matter? I don't think you've ever edited the homeopathy article, so it's rather mystery isn't it. ]] 12:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Well, whatever you think. I rest my case. All the best, ] 12:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::You rest your case? What case? You still haven't answered what you hoped to achieve by this. ]] 12:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::So badgerpatrol, you come in here and make a false accusation. But no balls to try to prove it. BTW, I haven't posted on CO's page in months. Filll's probably longer. Jim's the same. CO recently posted on my page because he noted an unfair block. So you better apologize NOW, or write up a sockpuppet and RfCU today. I know you won't because your MO has been to make accusations and slither away. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 14:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::I've responded on your talk page. You have some pretty serious civility issues and a bad temper, OM. ] 14:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::Your comments have taken a decidedly creepy turn BP. I don't particularly wish to talk to your now or in the foreseeable future, so please stop posting on my talk page. Thank you. ]] 14:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::::No problem- please delete this and any previous comments as you wish. ] 14:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
Wow. First BP demonstrates extremely poor judgement at one of OM's articles. Then BP violates some of the rules associated with admin priveleges. Then BP arises to accuse us all of being socks, when it is clear we edit different things at different times and live in different parts of the world. This would mean we never sleep I guess. | |||
I think its best to allow the present discussion about quote inclusion regarding ] and ] to finish before startinga revert war over a single quote. | |||
I would think that our styles or editing are sufficiently different that anyone could tell us apart quite easily. We sometimes edit conflict with each other, which might be a bit difficult to do if we are all the same person, unless we are signed on simultaneously to two or three or four computers with different names, all routed through different IP addresses. This just is a bit much to suggest, frankly.--] 16:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
Three other quotes were previously removed by another editor, I'm just following his lead. I do not see why they should be removed while that one stands (])--] 01:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:BP isn't an admin. Oh and whoever said ''you'' were the puppet master eh? ;). ]] 16:39, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Sorry, But I need help== | |||
==Evolution== | |||
I actually have to take issue with you on the welfare notion. Saying that it "stymies" evolution, assumes that selection occurs on an exclusively individual level, which is patently not true. If anything welfare is a trait that has been selected for by evolution, as it increases the fitness of whole populations. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 07:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
I'm sorry to keep bothering, but "Dudesleeper" keeps repeatadly deleting everything I write. Everytime I write something on an article, when I visit again he has deleted it. I've left messages on his talk page and in articles histories, ''and'' tried to do a mediation thing, but he still does not listen. Any help please mate? | |||
:I believe most evolutionary theorists think selection does occur on a strictly individual level, actually many think it occurs on a strictly GENE level ''see'' ]. I think the problem with saying it "stymies evolution", implies that evolution has a purpose to be stymied doesn't it? It certainly changes the selective pressures, but so do a lot of things--like say murder laws, anti-civilian violence laws and government in general (without say, murder laws, people who weren't good at protecting themselves physically would be at a sever disadvantage). ] 06:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
] 12:59, 11 October 2007 (GMT) | |||
:::Ah no, evolution is the change in the frequency of alleles in a '''population''' over time. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 07:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Alright, give me a bit, I'll have a look and see if I can figure out what's going on. Just sit tight, don't keep reverting, it's not the end of the world. ]] 12:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Yea, hence ''evolution'' occurs within a population, but ''selection'' occurs on genes, as opposed to populations (leaving the question of whether it happens on ''individuals'' aside, thats a bit more involved). | |||
I suggested he do some background reading on how to use Misplaced Pages. Of course, rather than do so, . He seems to be another in a long line of excited football fans who want to wax lyrical about his team. My patience has somewhat worn out. - ] · <small> ]</small> 12:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::The problem is that If you see anything that could be considered ''selection'' happening on populations, then there is no meta-population (poplulations of populations) for ''evolution'' to occur within. Or if there is a meta-population, its too small (say p<10) for the process to create any sort of functionality. Basically when you start getting into group selection your just looking at the population as an individual, and expecting that natural selection can create some functionality working with only a very small group of individuals (the "very small group" being the meta-population)--which is why group selectionist theories are frowned upon these days. ] 08:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Fair enough I guess, I've left a similar suggestion on his talk page. Have you considered asking for page protection? It might encourage him to use the talk page. ]] 12:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Medical Fraud == | |||
:::Discussion doesn't seem to be his forté. I think it's easier just to keep an eye on his edits. - ] · <small> ]</small> 12:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==Request for mediation== | |||
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== Thanks for reverting == | |||
] 10:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Thank you for removing the on my user page! <span style="color:DarkGray;">...</span> ] <sub>]</sub> 00:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:And how did YOU come to such an important determination? And who are YOU? This sounds like complete nonsense, frankly. --] 12:24, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:That's no problem at all, I followed them from another article they vandalised. ]] 00:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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My apologies. Having visited your user page, it all becomes clear.--] 12:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:No shit... and just for the record, he did rather a lot more, than "properly structure" the article. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 12:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ] 16:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Perfectblue is quite correct. Please refrain from further personal attacks against Perfectblue. ornis, I've already reported your personal attacks once, and if you continue to hand them out, I'll go further. –––''']'''</span><sub> (] Ψ ])</sub> 21:24, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Would you mind explaining your reversions to my edits of ]? == | |||
== Not sure if this is where to put this == | |||
...Simply identifying the edits as "bad" smacks of ]. <nowiki></nowiki> — ] | ] 18:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
It seems to me that you are involved in the "edit war" as well. It is absolutely inaccurrate to say that they REJECT those disciplines. If you knew anything about the subject, you would recognize that many of the folks associated with ICR actually have degrees in those disciplines and have worked or do work in those fields in other non-creationist endeavors. | |||
:Take it to the talk page. I'm not interested in discussing the matter here. I reverted your edits because they were contentious and made without discussion. ]] 22:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ignostic -> agnostic == | |||
I have no problem with saying that they come to different conclusions than what is considered to be the mainstream conclusions in the areas of physics, chemistry, and geology in regards to their views of the age of the earth. But to say that they reject the disciplines is not only not a "neutral point of view", but is also inaccurrate. | |||
Hey, ] isn't a misspelling of agnostic. An ignostic believes the question of gods existence is basically meaningless, as opposed to unanswerable. ]] 22:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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: Ah, thank you for that. I've learned a new word--or at any rate coinage--today. My bot has been duly educated! I think I'll stick to militant atheism for myself though :) Cheers, ] 22:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== PZ Myers == | |||
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OWN away! ] 03:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:laugh. out. loud. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 03:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
I agree completely, the tagging was to bring it to other editors's attention. ] 23:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No I understand, I kind of assumed you were quite rightly trying to avoid a one-on-one revert war. In an hour or so, I'll put something up on the fringe theory noticeboard so we can get some more eyes on it. – ]] 00:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== User:Auno3 == | |||
::What's truly "laugh. out. loud." is that you people would never apply the same standards to the Ann Coulter article and discussion page. ] 03:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hi ConfuciusOrnis I notice you've tagged ] as a sock of Auno3. The same person is using ] to troll ]. I've tagged that page based on the logic that they are the same user and that the arguments amde by these IPs closely resembles Auno3 and their sockpuppets (even if its a different topic). If I see anything further I'll dop you a line--] <sup>]</sup> 13:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Did I hurt your feelings? <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 03:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Ashkenazi intelligence == | |||
::::No. You just confirmed what I knew was happening to the PZ Myers article (and by extension, to the entirety of Misplaced Pages). Would you apply the same standards to the Ann Coulter article? Would you go in and delete comments from the discussion page and hand out warnings? Of course not. And if ''I'' did it, I'd be yelled at, warned about it and very likely banned from Misplaced Pages. ] 04:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
"''Alright, I'm not sure this is exactly kosher''..." <--- This made me laugh because I thought you were talking about the article "]" not being ''exactly kosher'' ... but, now I see what you meant. FYI there was a deletion debate for that article alone some time ago and the result was "keep" You might want to read through it. ] 14:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::You should wipe that spittle off the screen, it's bad for the anti-glare coating. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 04:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I have to admit, after I left that comment I sort of stopped and thought, "..hang on.. ". Thanks for pointing that out the AfD. Looking at it, it looks like to me more like a default keep due to lack of consensus for deletion. Nonetheless, I see there were plenty of comments in favour of merging it to '''somewhere''', so I think this time around there's a better chance of getting the lot merged into something manageable and NPOV. – ]] 14:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Please relist ] as a separate vote == | |||
I've long since passed the stage of getting angry over bias and hypocrisy. I've seen so much of it from liberals, atheists and the like that the emotion I feel is complete and utter non-surprise. Your bias is obvious and your edits are unjustified. Continue to remove my comments from the talk page and I will take action against you. ] 06:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hi ConfuciusOrnis: Being "Ashkenazi" is not a "race" by ''any'' definition. The Ashkenazim are a cultural and historical group of Jews, not really even an ethnicity, consisting of a variety of Jews with a common religious and historical ''culture'' originating mainly from France, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, and Russia, so that ] are a recognized and respectable group, not a "race" in any way, so it is a mistake to match them up or compare them to any "racial" articles. Futhermore, in your sweeping nomination at ] you did not list ] as part of the original group in the AfD ''until'' another user pointed the article out to you and you ''then'' decided to add it at ]. Unfortunately, by that time the nomination had already attracted a lot of negative attention with ''ten'' delete votes already having been cast making it essentially impossible for those ''only'' concerned with the ] subject to be heard or noticed, and among the votes that are coming in afterwards it is not clear if they understood what you did. For the sake of clarity, I urge you to remove the ] from this nomination due to the confusion and the non-orderly and out of sequence manner in which you included it. As you are aware, the ] article survived an AfD in February, 2007, see ]. Based on the incorrect manner and negative timing that the ] was included in the general vote about "Race and intelligence" it must be withdrawn from this AfD. If you wish to have a new nomination, go ahead, but it definitely should not have been lumped with a set of articles not connected to it in content or spirit. Thank you, ] 05:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Grow up. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 06:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
'''SEE: ]''': <u>"I think that pages should only be grouped together on XfD if '''all''' the following criteria are met: (1) There is a single place to discuss all the pages. (2) It is unlikely that any user will have diferent opinions about the pages. (3) They were all listed within an hour of when the discussion page was created. As the third criteria clearly wasn't met, I think that lumping it in here was the wrong thing to do.</u> ] ] 08:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)" Thank you, ] 19:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
==What?== | |||
What's your deal man? What reason will I be blocked, and by who, you? Is that a threat and are you ''not'' assumming good faith? I didn't blank anything, I edited it to be more NPOV and consistent. The template is belief systems, and as I pointed out the template was heavily weighted with atheism and agnostism links. Demography of atheism, list of atheists, criticism of atheism, ect, with no links to for instance demography of animism or list of pantheists, not that I think there should be, it's my opinion that there should just be links to the basic articles about each system and then one can go from there. That's what I believe the template should look like, I edited it accordingly, as I have every right to do. ] 05:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
FYI, I just split the AfD to ]. The article was not part of the original listing and was also not part of the series on Race and Intelligence. As this article was causing too much distraction from the actual discussion, I split it to a separate AfD. Hope you don't mind. Cheers, --] 21:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Perhaps you're a little hard of understanding, so I'll say it again... '''all those religions have their own nav templates'''. Now revert back please. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 06:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== R&I – a new approach== | |||
::Then simply restart the general atheism template and problem solved. I noticed it was merged without any real discussion. ] 20:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
R&I has been protected for a breather while we try to form some consensus as to the direction. In the interim we have set up a “sandbox” at: ]. Moonriddengirl is a neutral admin who has set up the space where we can work on the text section by section; this allows us to have a talk page for the micro project. So far JJJamal, Futurebird and I have made suggested changes with additions in bold and deletions in strikeout. This section and its talk page is an experiment in trying to come together as a group on a focused area. If it works we’d like to approach Guy, the admin who has protected the page, to insert our work-product into the protected article and then take on another section. I would really like to get your feedback on this so that we can demonstrate a consensus. Thanks. --] 19:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Talk Page-nav == | ||
Hi CO, edit summary appears to be an automagically filled in summary by your editing tool - please confirm or correct me - and identifies edits as "vandalism". While I appreciate the ease of using a tool, please use that rollback only for cases of clear vandalism, and not for other edits. Thanks! ]<sup>]</sup> 12:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:And as I see no one has yet given you a courtesy link, I make you aware of this: ]. ]<sup>]</sup> 13:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks, I've replied at the AN/I. Yeah, that was me getting a little overzealous with twinkle, I just installed it yesterday... new toys and all that ;) <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 13:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::I've posted on the Twinkle improvements page, or request page, or whatever it is called, to have that particular edit summary toned down, or a choice of "vandalism" vs a simple "Undo" type summary, or best yet, a "Fill in your own" choice, but so far it seems that has not gotten much attention. Thanks for your prompt response to this. ]<sup>]</sup> 13:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Yeah, an option to set your own summary would be nice, but I suspect the developers may be less than enthused about implementing such a feature. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 14:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::Its on the to-do list on ] as ''"Add new config item offerReasonOnCSDTag to allow a custom edit summary to be entered"'' and is confirmed, so its on its way, although no idea when he'll get the time to do it. ]<sup>]</sup> 14:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::Well then... consider me corrected :) <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 14:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Yeah, don't you just love it when the thing you're wrong about is something you're ''happy'' to be wrong about? :-D ]<sup>]</sup> 14:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Love it? Well it's about only time I'm prepared to admit to being wrong. ;) <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 14:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
(outdent) Ack, my comment was supposed to be light banter, I hope I didn't step on a toe (?) ]<sup>]</sup> 15:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:lol, No, it was joke.. see.. smiley--> :) <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 15:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::My turn to be happy to be wrong! ]<sup>]</sup> 15:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Lol. It is a good feeling. One day I hope to be wrong about them never adding general maintenance tags and template. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 16:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hey, you seem to have it cracked, can you help me with the navagation on my talk page? (for example = profile--talk--edits--images_uploaded etc...) and you know the little templates you can put on your user page (]) and is it possible to create your own, and if not where can I find a large collection of them? | |||
== ] == | |||
thanks, | |||
Hello ConfuciusOrnis, I plan to implement the homeopathy rough draft( ]) by September 1st, 5 days from now. Unless of course more proposals are made to change it, in which case I will postpone the implementation until it is ready and agreed upon. Some things concerning the rough draft are still in discussions, which can easily continue once it goes live. An example is the inclusion of mentions of ]. Other things can easily be fixed after a week or so of copy editors from the general public going over it and removing redundancy and rewording sentences to be more brief and precise, which will cut down size of the article including the lead without removing relevant info. So If by September 1st I receive no more suggestions on improving the rough draft then I will replace the ] article with it. If you see problems with the draft, please make suggestions on improving it. Even if the suggestions might have already been made, just make a new post with the suggestions so that we can discuss them. Here is the link to the rough draft again: ''']'''. Thanks. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
] 18:38 (edit: 19:47), 11 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Sockpuppetry?== | |||
Hi ConfuciusOrnis. I came across the report you made on ]. The last thing I want to do is accuse the wrong person, but you might want to add ] to your report. The "revert of vandalism" edit summary is quite damning.. And not the mention the fact that Hornet35 started an Afd (]) of articles that, how shall I put it, may not be "favorable" to his idealogy. ] 15:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, I'd noticed hornet35 as well, but withheld so far from adding it in order to avoid sub-conscious fishing. However if you also look at the timing it's pretty convenient, (s)he appeared ten or twenty minutes after I tagged totesboats as a suspected sock, and started editing more or less the same articles in the same manner. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 15:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Have you considered ], or doesn't it fit the criteria? --]<sup><small>(])</small></sup> 20:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::To be honest, I'm still finding my feet here. I've never dealt with something like this before, and intially I chose a standard report because I figured the PEAR IP would be too stale for any meaningful result, though considering these new accounts of his that keep popping up, that might be wise, I'll look into it. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 06:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Merry Christmas == | |||
==3RR?== | |||
I have not violated it in ]. | |||
] 15:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I guess you didn't bother to read the warning then. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 15:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==Creationism and Vandalism== | |||
Sorry, I misread the diff! I was about to revert but you nailed me.] 13:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Alright then, no harm done ;) <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 13:46, 28 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Hello == | |||
ConfuciusOrnis, | |||
I do not know if you already know this , but your name appears on the ]. Cheers! :) | |||
I saw that your reverted a change to the Piltdown article. you removed the italicized phrase at the end of the following line: | |||
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== Are you gone for good? == | |||
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The hoax is now a popular target for ], who criticize science for falling for the hoax, ''and suggest that other finds backing up evolution may also be hoaxes''. | |||
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Just wondering...--] (]) 01:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
I don't really object to your taking it out. But I'd like to know why you labeled this "vandalism". Why do you consider this change vandalism? | |||
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Since you've neutrally contributed to it in the past, I thought you might want to look in once more on the article's present state and current RfC. ] (]) 14:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Hey, short answer: I hit the wrong button. A longer answer can be found ]. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 14:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Thanks so much for bringing the Vandal bot IP to administrator attention. I have blocked it and reverted the most recent edits. You can leave me a message if you see another one like that soon. ] 05:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No worries, I was beginning to wonder at the inhuman speed with which it was able to add gibberish to articles. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 05:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== ] == | |||
I've been ordered to fix the page so that it accords with my understanding of the NPOV policy. I'm happy to do that but I have a lot of work at my job. | |||
May I ask why you reverted my edits to this page without any sort of explanation or message on my talk page? As a guideline, ] has a strong consensus among editors. And my personal beliefs have nothing to do with this removal (you'll see I explained why I did it, contrary to your revert). -- ] <sup>]</sup> 17:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Now I've been told that I must make the changes by April 30th or the NPOV tag will be removed. I simply can't learn how to use Misplaced Pages as a newcomer, become familiar with all the sources, and make the edits if I must do it all by April 30th. | |||
:Just trying to save you the embarrassment that will come when inevitably you realise what a dickish thing it was to do in the first place. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 04:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Would you look over the Theosophy page? Also, can you recommend anything? Thanks much,] (]) 15:13, 27 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Linkspam == | |||
Ok, I am green to wiki, but why did you cut all my stuff out? The medical light association is not a for profit site the video clips are credible doctors and scientists from around the world. The MLA links I posted are not a promotion for a product or service, it is free information like the wiki, so what is going on? | |||
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:Well you should start by reading, ] and ]. I know you've been given those links before, as you've been warned about this matter before. Generally, if you own or operate a website, and you think it should be included in an article, then you will need to discuss that on the talk page of the article, rather than adding it yourself. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 09:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:But I love the dogs and the mice! Well...if consensus is to remove them...I guess...--] 16:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Good day == | |||
Hello Confucius, | |||
Your ] of sock-puppetry against me has been proven false and closed. | |||
I certainly hope you will be more careful about accusing other Wikipedians of being sock-puppets in the future. | |||
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:Lol... feeling pretty smug aintcha... actually all that was proven, was that I didn't present the evidence against you terribly well. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 03:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
==]== | |||
Hi. I'm contacting some people who have worked on the Rational Response Squad article because someone changed my redirect of "Brian Sapient" (which I made to redirect surfers to the RRS article) into an article on Brian Sapient himself. I'm not sure one is merited, particularly given what that editor started off with the article, and have begun a discussion on . Your input would be appreciated. ] 01:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== BLP and 3R == | |||
As stated in my edit summaries. ] does not apply in ] violations.--] 09:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Your hystrionics aside, there was no blp violation. So you clearly broke 3rr. You're just lucky the page was protected. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 09:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:*OR is BLP-violating. Please allow the RFC to take place to allow wider community commentary. I will abide by consensus.--] 09:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
*Possibly BLP-violating, is the same as BLP-violating as far as I can tell - and that is an ] to 3RR. Please allow a discussion to take place and '''reach a consensus'''. So far all we have had is a sparring match consisting of around 5-6 people which has reached a practical stalemate. I am requesting protection, and a RFC so we can develop consensus. --] 09:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:See below. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 09:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Unprotection == | |||
I have unprotected the article, now. If there is no BLP violation, are you requesting the article be left unprotected, or that it be re-protected? -- <strong>]</strong>] 09:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:God I don't don't know. Have a look through the discussion if you can stand it. Essentially what's been happening is a handful of creationists have been disrupting any attempt to improve the article with completely specious allegation and tendentious editwarring. Basically, she IS a creationist. she DID sign the petition, it IS anti-evolution and her field ISN'T related to biology or evolution in any meaningful way. Now there are sources for all of these, there's no harm being done to the subject, and there is no OR or SYNTH... frankly at this stage if you or someone else where to just speedy delete the damn thing I wouldn't shed a tear. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 09:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Please do not add the book cover images back into the article. If something comes of the Fair Use Review, they may be added back in then. Thanks ] ] 22:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Because an admin told you so CO.] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 01:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah funny isn't it I keep thinking they're just regular editors with no more authority than you or I. I keep forgetting that they're in fact our social and intellectual superiors, granted godlike powers by the mighty one, and whose farts smell like strawberries, and whose every word is a honeyed drop of profundity, given unto us the unworthy hoi polloi.... colour me unimpressed. <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 11:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==You are WRONG!== | |||
Ornis, I really think that you should dig into the Real proof of evolution. In fact, there is NONE. There is no proof to evolutoin, and there is way more proof against it. And you know what, religion is waht holds the world together. I want to help you, but you ARE wrong. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Sorry... maybe when I stop laughing so hard I can't breathe properly I might reply to that.... <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 01:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Arbitration request == | |||
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== ] == | |||
Can you provide an adequate explanation as to why you reverted my edit to ]? ] <sup>]</sup> 04:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Can you provide an adequate explanation for why you made it in the first place? <b><font face="courier" color="#737CA1">]</font></b> <small><b><font color="#C11B17">(])</font></b></small> 04:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Talk:Climate change denial == | |||
At ] you're being too impolite and too profane. Please remove your profanities ] 08:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
: Sadly you've chosen not to do this but have continued being incivil . I've blocked you for 12h ] 08:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::That was uncivil? You have got to be kidding. Have you read the crap from the other editors? ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 11:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: Calling people trolls who are contributing in good faith is incivil, as were a number of more blatant examples by CO. The discussion needs to calm down; a polite request was not sufficient ] 11:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::The discussion needed to calm down on all sides -- were similar blocks meted out to others involved? Also, 28 minutes expired between the polite request and the block, if CO, like me ignores the "you have new messagers" banner, he very well may not have seen the message. ] 12:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm still trying to find a diff for profanity from CO. Because if profanity contra bonos mores (beat me up later for misusing latin) leading to a violation of ] then I'm fucked. And why was CO targeted? Because of, and let me not ] because the admin just didn't like CO as opposed to obnoxious, rude and uncivil comments from the likes of Ben Hocking who made the accusation on the admins page? I don't know, but it certainly looks like it to me. Unless you can show specific diffs where 1) CO did something different than Ben Hocking, 2) where CO used profane language against another user (the use of profanity is not in of itself a violation of ] and free speech may not be allowed where you live, it is allowed here), and 3) where CO violated any of ] guidelines (and yes I read them, and nothing CO has written is in violation thereof), I think you should remove this block, and apologize to CO. In addition, you should state why, based on a complaint from BenHocking, you chose to ignore his personal attacks, his violations of ] and ], and proceeded to attack another editor, specifically ornis. And since I am now officially in dispute with you William M. Connolley, don't even consider throwing another rude warning on my user talk page.] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 12:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::: (to J) No it didn't - 24h + 28 minutes expired. AFAIK no-one else has felt it necessary to write stuff like this . (to OM) If you want to make a complaint about PA from BH, please use my talk page. And no, you can't gain invulnerability by declaring dispute ] 12:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with this block. That's hardly incivil, particularly when both you and I know that BH and others are being completely ridiculous and provoked CO's frustration. Incivil would be to call them 'f'ing idiots.' I'm going to be consulting some fellow admins, and if they concur, I'm going to unblock. ] 14:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::Ah, I also see that you've be participating on the talk page prior to the block, you're an involved party, meaning this block being made by you was completely improper per ]. You should have brought this to WP:AN/I where if other, uninvolved admins agreed with your assessment, they would have made the block. But as it is, you should unblock him and apologize before your improper block ends up at AN/I itself. ] 14:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC) |
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Portal:AtheismGood to see the nice work that you have done on Portal:Atheism. I had a little plan to have the atheists in Portal:Atheism/Selected biography in an alphabetical order for the first 26. Got myself stuffed up at H. Not sure if there is actually an atheist for every letter of the alphabet but there could well be. BUT that is not a very formal and encyclopaedic manner for one to go about creating the worlds foremost source of knowledge.... -- Alan Liefting talk 08:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Fringe POV pushing at black holeYou stop. I haven't introduced anything non-factual into the black hole article. If you think I have, the burden is on you to either show that I haven't espoused the consensus view or at the very least defend your changes in talk. I look forward to your response in the black hole talk page. You may begin by citing non-factual information you suggest I inserted. I'll wait a reasonable amount of time and then I'll simply revert your nonsense. SteakNotShake 14:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
As are you. SteakNotShake 16:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC) FlamarandeThanks,I truly did not know where to report this as I usually don't get insulted. I usually simply revert minor cases of vandalism but I fear that this case is getting out of hand, and I am not interested in a slug-feast. Must I do anything else? Flamarande 16:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello!Hello ConfuciusOrnis! I am RS1900. Thanks for infobox you created for atheism. I am also an atheist. I think you have done a great job for the article 'Atheism'. All the best. RS1900 05:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
My ocdThe reason I was adding the category was to get it alphabetically correct in the category itself. I'm doing this to all of those "I" items that aren't really "I" items. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benhocking (talk • contribs) 13:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Discussion on deletion pageHi there, this isn't really relevant to the matter in hand - if the article meets the criteria set out in deletion policy. I have asked the original nominator to remove this comment. Would you mind if I move the discussion about User:Memestream to the discussion page of this deletion discussion? Tim Vickers 22:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I've moved the discussion to the talk page and hidden the offending comment using noinclude tags. Hopefully the nominator will respond to my request on their talk page to rephrase their nomination. Tim Vickers 23:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey, shit happens. :) I'm not rewriting it for them! Tim Vickers 23:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
afsfdsablocked from wikipedia or editing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.208.135 (talk) 11:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
ThanksSpryde 13:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Valid sourceSo you really think the author of a book is a valid source for the number of books he has sold, especially when there is not other documentation for that number?.......standards have really come down on wikipedia if this is a valid source for this claim. Hardyplants 10:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Your recent report to WP:AIVHi there, I've blocked the IP you reported to AIV. Just a quick note however, when reporting to AIV it's not really accepted that anonymous IP's are known as accounts let alone a vandalism only account. This rationale is only really applied to a registered editor who's sole aim is to disrupt Misplaced Pages, and having only vandalism edits to the account, we would then block the account indefinitely as a vandalism only account. As we are unsure if it's the same editor behind an IP address at any given time we cannot issue a permanent blocks to anonymous IP's. Oh and let's not see any more of this please? Any problems please don't hesitate to give me a shout. 14:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Reverted 2 edits by 72.91.75.209 identified as vandalism?How was that vandalism?EMSPhydeaux 03:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
SparkPeople speedy deletionYou marked my article SparkPeople for speedy deletion. This page had been live and running for about a year when it was deleted. I re-created it with relevant information including citations to being named Best of the Web by BusinessWeek two years in a row in the Health category as well as being listed by Hitwise as the 6th most popular health site in January 2007. The company is a legitimate player in online health. I'd be happy to take any constructive criticism you may provide.Jknepfle 16:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Good catchVery, very good catch. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Stop itYou've been reverting my edits for no good reason, I know you dislike me, but that's no reason to revert good-faith quality edits. You've been banned before and if you keep reverting good edits you will likely get banned again. Just stop now. --RucasHost 15:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
HelpThanks man, ill read through all the stuff you gave me!!
Okay, let me get straightWhat edit...are you reffering to ConfuciusOrnis--Angel David 15:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
help!Ornis, I need help. Someone called 'dudesleeper' is continuasly putting the wrong info on joe anyon even though I have warned him many times. Ive tried to semi-protect the page, but it doesnt work. Any help? ty Cf38 11:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Issues?No, I have no issues with anyone, and I certainly didn't intend for my comment to come across as "snippy". I was just wondering why yourself, OM, Filll and Jim62sch show a continued tendency to reply to third-party posts on each others' talk pages as if you were the intended recipient, which is unusual etiquette here on Misplaced Pages. I can certainly say that if someone presumed to reply on my behalf on my talk page then I would be none too pleased, to say the least. However, it's clearly no big deal. Can I humbly suggest based on this that you may have a tendency to overreact somewhat? Badgerpatrol 11:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Wow. First BP demonstrates extremely poor judgement at one of OM's articles. Then BP violates some of the rules associated with admin priveleges. Then BP arises to accuse us all of being socks, when it is clear we edit different things at different times and live in different parts of the world. This would mean we never sleep I guess. I would think that our styles or editing are sufficiently different that anyone could tell us apart quite easily. We sometimes edit conflict with each other, which might be a bit difficult to do if we are all the same person, unless we are signed on simultaneously to two or three or four computers with different names, all routed through different IP addresses. This just is a bit much to suggest, frankly.--Filll 16:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, But I need helpI'm sorry to keep bothering, but "Dudesleeper" keeps repeatadly deleting everything I write. Everytime I write something on an article, when I visit again he has deleted it. I've left messages on his talk page and in articles histories, and tried to do a mediation thing, but he still does not listen. Any help please mate? Cf38 12:59, 11 October 2007 (GMT)
I suggested he do some background reading on how to use Misplaced Pages. Of course, rather than do so, he deleted my suggestion. He seems to be another in a long line of excited football fans who want to wax lyrical about his team. My patience has somewhat worn out. - Dudesleeper · Talk 12:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
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User:Auno3Hi ConfuciusOrnis I notice you've tagged User:69.106.230.196 as a sock of Auno3. The same person is using User:69.106.250.135 to troll Talk:feminism. I've tagged that page based on the logic that they are the same user and that the arguments amde by these IPs closely resembles Auno3 and their sockpuppets (even if its a different topic). If I see anything further I'll dop you a line--Cailil 13:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC) Ashkenazi intelligence"Alright, I'm not sure this is exactly kosher..." <--- This made me laugh because I thought you were talking about the article "Ashkenazi intelligence" not being exactly kosher ... but, now I see what you meant. FYI there was a deletion debate for that article alone some time ago and the result was "keep" You might want to read through it. futurebird 14:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Please relist Ashkenazi intelligence as a separate voteHi ConfuciusOrnis: Being "Ashkenazi" is not a "race" by any definition. The Ashkenazim are a cultural and historical group of Jews, not really even an ethnicity, consisting of a variety of Jews with a common religious and historical culture originating mainly from France, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, and Russia, so that Ashkenazi Jews are a recognized and respectable group, not a "race" in any way, so it is a mistake to match them up or compare them to any "racial" articles. Futhermore, in your sweeping nomination at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence (history) you did not list Ashkenazi intelligence as part of the original group in the AfD until another user pointed the article out to you and you then decided to add it at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence (history)#One more? Ashkenazi intelligence. Unfortunately, by that time the nomination had already attracted a lot of negative attention with ten delete votes already having been cast making it essentially impossible for those only concerned with the Ashkenazi intelligence subject to be heard or noticed, and among the votes that are coming in afterwards it is not clear if they understood what you did. For the sake of clarity, I urge you to remove the Ashkenazi intelligence from this nomination due to the confusion and the non-orderly and out of sequence manner in which you included it. As you are aware, the Ashkenazi intelligence article survived an AfD in February, 2007, see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ashkenazi intelligence. Based on the incorrect manner and negative timing that the Ashkenazi intelligence was included in the general vote about "Race and intelligence" it must be withdrawn from this AfD. If you wish to have a new nomination, go ahead, but it definitely should not have been lumped with a set of articles not connected to it in content or spirit. Thank you, IZAK 05:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC) SEE: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Relisting Ashkenazi intelligence as a separate vote: "I think that pages should only be grouped together on XfD if all the following criteria are met: (1) There is a single place to discuss all the pages. (2) It is unlikely that any user will have diferent opinions about the pages. (3) They were all listed within an hour of when the discussion page was created. As the third criteria clearly wasn't met, I think that lumping it in here was the wrong thing to do. Od Mishehu 08:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)" Thank you, IZAK 19:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC) FYI, I just split the AfD to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ashkenazi intelligence (2nd). The article was not part of the original listing and was also not part of the series on Race and Intelligence. As this article was causing too much distraction from the actual discussion, I split it to a separate AfD. Hope you don't mind. Cheers, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 21:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC) R&I – a new approachR&I has been protected for a breather while we try to form some consensus as to the direction. In the interim we have set up a “sandbox” at: User:Moonriddengirl/Race and intelligence/backgound. Moonriddengirl is a neutral admin who has set up the space where we can work on the text section by section; this allows us to have a talk page for the micro project. So far JJJamal, Futurebird and I have made suggested changes with additions in bold and deletions in strikeout. This section and its talk page is an experiment in trying to come together as a group on a focused area. If it works we’d like to approach Guy, the admin who has protected the page, to insert our work-product into the protected article and then take on another section. I would really like to get your feedback on this so that we can demonstrate a consensus. Thanks. --Kevin Murray 19:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC) Talk Page-navHey, you seem to have it cracked, can you help me with the navagation on my talk page? (for example = profile--talk--edits--images_uploaded etc...) and you know the little templates you can put on your user page (example) and is it possible to create your own, and if not where can I find a large collection of them? thanks, Cf38 18:38 (edit: 19:47), 11 November 2007 (UTC) Merry ChristmasHelloI do not know if you already know this , but your name appears on the list here. Cheers! :) Λua∫Wise 19:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Are you gone for good?Just wondering...--Filll (talk) 01:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC) TfD nomination of Template:Creationism2Template:Creationism2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Neelix (talk) 20:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC) Quote miningSince you've neutrally contributed to it in the past, I thought you might want to look in once more on the article's present state and current RfC. arimareiji (talk) 14:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC) AfD nomination of Introduction to evolutionAn editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Introduction to evolution. 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