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== ] ==
A story about ''Wikinomics'' has been published in '']''. Here is a section mentioning Misplaced Pages.

<blockquote>When "web gurus" like Tapscott start hyperventilating about the new economy, a common reaction is uneasy scepticism. An economy, surely, has to be built on real things - bricks, and bread, and pints of milk, not just Facebook, MySpace, Second Life, Misplaced Pages and blogging? Man cannot live by social networking alone. So it is to Tapscott's credit that the idea he calls "wikinomics" - he is, after all, a web guru, and seems unable to resist buzzwords - goes back to 1937, and to a young socialist academic born in Willesden.</blockquote>

It later goes on to say…

<blockquote>The natural tendency, in a book such as Wikinomics, is to exaggerate for the sake of making an impact. But the signs are there. Take the Chinese motorcycle industry, which has tripled its output to 15m bikes per year over the past decade. There aren't really any Chinese equivalents of the big Japanese and American firms - Honda or Harley. Instead, there are hundreds of small firms, many of them based in Chongquing, the world's fastest-growing metropolis. Their representatives meet in tea-houses, or collaborate online, each sharing knowledge, and contributing the parts or services they do best. The companies that assemble the finished products don't hire the other companies; assembling the finished product is just another service. A "self-organised system of design and production" has emerged - the kind of system we usually associate with phenomena in cyberspace, like Misplaced Pages, or software released without copyright, so that others can tweak and improve it, such as the web browser Firefox. The Chinese motorcycle industry, in other words, is "open source".</blockquote>

…and later…

<blockquote>What if the "rise of the amateur" is just a passing phase on the way to something far more radical? After all, there's a major economic problem with Misplaced Pages, YouTube, MySpace and the like: people contribute to them without any financial reward, even as the content they contribute makes millions of dollars for the sites' owners. That may not matter on a small scale, but it's no way to run an entire economy: at some point, people are going to need money for food and mortgages. Most of the "amateurs" who make up the blogosphere, for example, are only amateur in their capacity as bloggers. They're professional bankers, or nurses, or technologists, or students, or something. Doing things "professionally" is how people stay alive: we can't afford to be amateurs all the time. If the new online world relied on amateurs, there would be a limit to how far it could expand.</blockquote>


Please do not post newsletters to this page; news from WikiProjects is always appreciated, but templated messages are much more likely to be ignored. ] (]) 05:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Although it is better if this article is read in full. These are just the bits that mention Misplaced Pages. The full article can be read , but you need to register with ''The Guardian'' before you can read it. ] 07:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
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:Well, it's funny that they include us in the comment "After all, there's a major economic problem with Misplaced Pages, YouTube, MySpace and the like: people contribute to them without any financial reward, even as the content they contribute makes millions of dollars for the sites' owners." Neither the WMF nor Jimbo makes millions of dollars out of WMF projects. And the other problem is that this is just a different form of commerce for those firms that ''do'' make money: in essense, people are contributing to these websites for free but they still receive a service. For YouTube it is free space for uploading images, for Facebook and MySpace they gain access to other people and get a wider circle of "friends" than they would otherswise get. Seems to be missing the point a bit. Just because they don't get monetary reward, doesn't mean that they don't get ''something''. Perhaps they should read ]? - ] 09:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


== "Software tests accuracy of Misplaced Pages entries" == == Calendar of upcoming events ==
I intend this to be a sort of calendar of upcoming events, on and off Misplaced Pages (particularly non-obvious events, that might be easily missed) -- things that readers might be interested in. Anyone can add events here.


* Nothing interesting is happening.
Partly WP in the news, partly news related to WP. The lead paragraph in the ] online article is:<blockquote>Because anyone can edit Misplaced Pages, the web encyclopedia's reliability varies wildly. Now a computer science professor hopes to give users a better baloney detector: software that flags questionable lines in Misplaced Pages entries.</blockquote>()--] 20:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


== Requests for WikiProject features ==
== Asahi.com, the internet version of ] ==
If you'd like your WikiProject featured in an upcoming WikiProject report, feel free to list it here. Note that these requests are entirely advisory, and may or may not be used in future reports. Please do not "support" or "oppose" individual requests, and keep requests '''short and concise'''. ] (]) 05:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


* ], with over 90 members, the Dinosaur WikiProject is really dedicated to dinosaur coverage. See ] for more information. ] 21:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Asahi Shimbun has a article on wikipedia, and is questioning the reliablity of us. According to the article, Shizuoka Shimbun copied directly off wikipedia for one of its articles. If anyone could read and translate Japanese better than me, it would be a great help. --] <strong><sup>]</sup></strong> 00:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


* ] is a lively and productive project that currently supports over 5000 articles, and has a dedicated core group of editors who work toward getting articles to GA and FA. Currently we are ] to the ]'s announcement that they are starting a collaborative encyclopedia project that will somehow be better than Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 02:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
== Paris conference ==


* ], the only project which to my knowledge has gotten a barnstar from an outsider as a project. And, of course, considering it just declared indpendence, ] might be the most timely. ] (]) 19:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The is to be held in Paris next month, organised by the French WMF chapter. Some from the English Misplaced Pages are attending. Perhaps you could do a piece on this? The goal is (rough translation) "''to explore concrete problems : How can we attract specialists who can guarantee the quality of a large number of articles ? How can make users more aware of the importance of reliable sources? ... The conference wishes to bring together scientists, teachers, experts and all contributors who care about the project.''" ] 09:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


* ] nearly died and came back to life. Originally begun in early 2007, by the start of December it had dwindled to just two active members. For a view of how much it's revived, here's its ] (featured pictures, good articles, DYKs, and a featured portal drive). ] 09:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
: Maybe next week? ] ] 04:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


*I think ] might be a nice success-story to include in some edition of the Signpost. Various gnomes have hacked away at this backlog ever since bots like ] started populating it a year and a half ago. Of course, this is a never-ending task but it's an important one and the backlog typically hovers around 2000 articles (compared to 10 times that a year ago). ] (]) 13:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
==Wikirage==
is the latest and greatest Misplaced Pages data mining tool. This tool lists the pages in Misplaced Pages which are receiving the most edits per unique editor over various periods of time, such as over the last hour. With such fast editing, rollbacks, 3RRs, valdalism, etc. are likely. This site seems like a good, constantly updated watch list that may be used by admins and others to assist where needed. There is a write up . ] developed the tool. He's been discouraged by Misplaced Pages (see ), but thinks that Misplaced Pages "can serve as an fantastic way to study human nature and how the non-tech world interacts with Social powered media." A little ] may help get this talented person back into contributing to the Encyclopedia. -- <font face="Kristen ITC">''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup></font> 17:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
*This is a little and although my ego is a little bruised over the loss of ] there is more at stake, and more can be done to keep content ] - regardless of 'quality, reliability, etc' ] 18:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


*]. Theres tons of things that happened in WP:LINY that would be great for the signpost. ] 13:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
== Asahi.com again ==


== WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits ==
Asahi.com is now mentioning the fact that Japanese government workers were deleting information that was not in their favor about their workplaces on the Japanese Misplaced Pages. The ministries have decided to warn the workers of "using ministry computers for other than minitry work". There were also notifications on ministry workers adding bad comments on some of their enemy senators. According to the Asahi Shimbun, a program named Wikiscanner identified the IP addresses. --] <strong><sup>]</sup></strong> 01:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


*{{cite news
==Music and videos==
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Tim Starling turned-on Mediawiki support for ogg vorbis and theora. This should make integration work a lot more nicely in the future. The video and audio templates are being changed right now, so there might be some technical difficulties on that front for the next few days. Tim suggested reading the thread at Wikitech and http://www.mediawiki.org/Extension:OggHandler ] 07:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
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:This looks neat. ] (]) 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html
That's the actual site, it's really interesting. ] (]) 21:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
: It's so cool. But how come 9 out of 10 anonymous edits are from U.S.? ]] 21:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::: Surely it would depend upon the time of day. The US would of course dominate during the hours when the Western hemisphere is most active. Also, the tool only tracks anonymous edits, and doesn't include IPs that can't be tied down to a single country, which may introduce unintentional biases. Still, I find this incredibly cool, and actually kind of inspiring.--] (]) 18:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


==wikipedia and Suicide==
:Why would they cover video/audio support now? :-/ Signpost did not do so several other times when I asked. --] 08:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


The BMJ put wikipedia as the forth most common result of suicide releated terms and catigoriesed wikipedia as "Information site: factual"
:: At one point I tried to contact you via your talk page and on IRC, but you weren't there and I published without it. I have covered at least a few audio/video issues in News and Notes, including the in-browser audio-video player introduced a few months back, but I usually don't give things their own article unless 3-4 paragraphs of copy can be written about it; in most cases, audio/video can't generate that kind of copy easily. Alternatively, feel free to write a story about anything you find notable in that field or on the MediaWiki/toolserver/technical side of things; I'll admit that I'm not that smart when it comes to the audio/video issues, so I can't write intelligently about the technical side of it, while you probably could, and I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in reading about that side of it. ] ] 20:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/336/7648/800
In a related story, I got permission this week from a music professor, , to include almost 100 of his professional cello recordings. ( are the additions to ]) This should substantially improve a number of our classical music and related articles ] 07:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


] 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
==2 million articles==
Once again, there was a huge rush as the 2 millionth article approached. The winner was ] created by ]. Ones created at the same time were:


:Note that it's not claiming any of the suicide-related articles on Misplaced Pages are factually correct, only that Misplaced Pages falls within a class of sites deemed to present fact-based information about the topic (instead of, say, promoting suicide, or offering news reports about people who committed suicide). ]] 16:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
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:]. 08:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
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:'''] created (2000000)'''
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== Is Misplaced Pages a reliable source for sources? Seems so! ==
::Where did the numbers (1999980 to 2000020) come from? ] 08:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Someone was kind enough to log it - http://wintermaple.com/wiki-madness.html ] 08:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::But wasn't ] created long ago? --] 08:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::It had deleted revisions which Alkivar restored. ] 08:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::It shouldn't be regarded as a new article in that case... ] 08:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::It was new at the time it was created (Alk didn't restore the revisions until after the article was recreated), so that makes it a new article in every meaningful sense of the phrase. ] 09:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Good. A TV show would be '''far''' more interesting as the 2,000,000th article than something abstract & esoteric. Since this TV show still makes new episodes, and its characters make commentary about current events, we'll hear from them about Misplaced Pages in due time. Most certainly, many more will watch this show as it gets uploaded onto Youtube and elsewhere for all Wikipedians to see! =) --] ] ]. 09:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Agreed, as much as I'd like to have the honor have having made the two millionth article, I don't see much popular appeal in something that esoteric. —''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 09:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Yea. Some stuff just has no popular appeal.. For example, Encyclopedias. Oh wait. --] 09:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


From seems we are getting better at citing our sources. ]] 01:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:It's interesting how ] almost became the two millionth article. --<font color="pink">]</font><font color="green">木</font> 09:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


''The Internet-based encyclopædia Misplaced Pages has grown to become one of the most visited Web sites on the Internet, but critics have questioned the quality of entries. An empirical study of Misplaced Pages found errors in a 2005 sample of science entries. Biased coverage and lack of sources are among the “Misplaced Pages risks.” This paper describes a simple assessment of these aspects by examining the outbound links from Misplaced Pages articles to articles in scientific journals with a comparison against journal statistics from Journal Citation Reports such as impact factors. The results show an increasing use of structured citation markup and good agreement with citation patterns seen in the scientific literature though with a slight tendency to cite articles in high-impact journals such as Nature and Science. These results increase confidence in Misplaced Pages as a reliable information resource for science in general. Many citations also go to Australian botany journals, seemingly because of the ] that has made well-referenced articles for this genus of plants with the beautiful flowers. A number of the articles for these plants has become so-called “featured” on Misplaced Pages: ], (this Banksia is listed as endangered), ] and ].''
The creator of the log is the same person who has created the article ]. Another reliable source? --] 09:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


== Newspaper picks up on local vandalism ==
It looks like the log above has been reversed! Look here, while it's still under 2,000,500 articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Newpages&namespace=0&limit=500&offset=0 --] ] ]. 10:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
* Holy, you're right! - ] 10:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:: Mmmm, a bit weird... --] 10:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


A that some IPs have been randomly vandalizing the article on their town (see ). Paper apparently knows nothing about Misplaced Pages, saying "Efforts to reach Misplaced Pages officials for comment Tuesday were unsuccessful." ] (]) 16:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:::This is ], and I was the one whose script created the log data posted above. This was automatically generated by a script every ten seconds, which was checking special:log and special:newpages to keep the count in sync. (I took an MD5SUM of each page that was created or deleted to keep track of which had already been counted) This data can be verified by checking the actual logs on Misplaced Pages for the article order. Apparently, the official logging was down for some reason, so my unofficial logging script was used. This raw logging data was being downloaded in real-time many times per second by people in the chat room. I was quite shocked when everyone in the channel started saying that mine was the two millionth article. When I created the script, I never expected that the numbers would be used for anything important - I created it simply to give unofficial "interim" milestone articles. It does appear that this page of the data was reversed, due to the actual page processing order being backwards - there are 50 articles per page.
::Just a personal note: did someone really take the time to write a whole article on this? Must be a slow news week. And note that a municipal department had to be "alerted" about it! --] (]) 15:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
:::With articles constantly being created and deleted, it's hard to determine which article is two million. It was even harder for me to create a script to do just that - without database access - in 20 minutes. The difference made by reversing pages of data is most likely low. I didn't notice this at first, because I was querying fast enough that I only got a few new articles on every special:newpages request. Someone can include the entire log data as retrieved from me, for future reference. (Please don't link to my server, at it is hosted on my home Internet connection. With so many people downloading my data all at once, my Internet connection was near saturated - thus delaying the script's page retrievals.) Again, I was never expecting this data to be used as official data. The script that generated this data was created in about 10 minutes for the express purpose of generating realtime article counts and preliminary milestones (100 away, 200 away, etc). I assumed that the Mediawiki developers would be logging it using the "million.log" hack they used last time. I started to do a complete rewrite of my logging script based on the data from irc.wikimedia.org, but I ran out of time before the two millionth article was posted. EDIT: I wasn't logged in before. ] 10:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC) (EDIT 2: cleaned up the posting. ] 10:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC))
::::The call is already made for your data to be the official one (on the main page), but it would mean that the 2,000,000 article, technically, could possibly turn out to be the wrong one... - ] 10:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC) :::True, though I think it also stems from a complete ignorance of what actually goes on here, so when they see something funny happening to an article relevant to them, it seems a lot more important than it really is. ] (]) 15:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
And on a series of vandalism to ]. ] (]) 13:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
::::* I took out the article from the Main Page, might be better to wait for WMF to make the confirmation first. - ] 11:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Verifying which article was "the" true two millionth article will be quite difficult, since no server logs were kept. Since article text changes so often, one would have to unwind every change to the database to see the value of goodarticles at the point each page was added. I'm guessing that the position wasn't shifted much, as El Hormiguero seems to be in the middle of a "flipped" page. In the end, it was picked by consensus in irc the best article created around the two million timeframe. I guess WMF will have to sort things out... ] 11:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::If no logging took place officially, then my guess is that WMF might not pick any individual article, just the milestone... - ] 11:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::The official logging was down for some reason? Are you sure the devs weren't trying to tell people to ignore the 2 millionth article? :-P ] 11:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


BBC TV too, . ] (]) 22:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
:I have logs of the wikimedia IRC channel (which can probably be taken as scripture) and information saying that the article about 50 beforehand was ] - the log, part of it, is at ], if someone wants to look through to figure it out. Remember that the article count only looks at articles with links. --]<small>]&middot;]</small> 12:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, but I find it quite unlikely that the person running the counting script is also the person who hits the 2,000,000th article. Something spooky here. --] 13:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


] has also picked it up, . ] (]) 13:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
::I've looked at it, and due to the uncertainty in my method, it most likely is:
:::04:21 <@rc> ] (http://en.wikipedia.org/Japan%27s_Imperial_Conspiracy) N http://en.wikipedia.org/Japan%27s_Imperial_Conspiracy * Gwern * (+7595) ]Created (http://en.wikipedia.org/WP:AES) page with '{{Infobox Book | name = Japan's Imperial Conspiracy | title_orig = | translator = | image = | image_caption = | author = David Bergamini | illustrator = | cover_art...'
::Or not too far after that one - best that someone else have a look, of course. (crossposted from WP:AN) --]<small>]&middot;]</small> 13:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


--] (]) 15:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


] (]) 21:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


== Misplaced Pages, climate change, National Post and ] ==
:For a definitive answer, we will have to wait for the database logs to be replayed to the moment of the two millionth article's creation. Attempting to find the "true" first 2,000,000th article without a mediawiki hack or replaying mysql logs is a useless effort, as it is impossible to get the live GOODARTICLES count or monitor pages that are turned into redirects, or linkless stubs expanded into articles. To attempt to solve this problem, I've reanalyzed my own log data. (I can provide the very messy javascript to anyone who is researching this... just leave a message on my talk page) Since every page of data from special:newpages was "flipped", all that should be required is to identify which entries are part of the page containing 2,000,000 - and simply flip it back. My script was producing article counts that mirrored special:statistics at about 100 articles before two million, when I last checked it. (I manually synchronized the number with special:statistics to make it as accurate as possible. '''It is easy to determine when this happens, as the article in my log count jumps for no reason. None of these manual synchronizations with special:statistics occurred near the time of the two millionth article.''' My log data was posted in realtime every ten seconds, so many people would have downloaded the sequential data before the article count was two million, proving that I couldn't have modified the data after the fact. Still, the data was wrong due to bad logic in my hastily written javascript, and I feel bad for this data having mislead people. Here is the relevant portion of my log data:
===Before 2 million===
Barren River created (1999985)
Kenkyu-gakuen Station created (1999986)
Gatón de Campos created (1999987)
Louisville Clock created (1999988)
===The "page" with two million, identified by comparing this to special:newpages and finding the "ends"===
<ol start="1999989">
<li>New York State Route 631 created (1999989)</li>
<li>Spring Creek Correctional Center created (1999990)</li>
<li>United Kingdom local elections, 1997 created (1999991)</li>
<li>Pennsylvania Route 924 created (1999992)</li>
<li>Simon M. Kirby created (1999993)</li>
<li>Varney, Kentucky created (1999994)</li>
<li>Misato-chuo Station created (1999995)</li>
<li>Oklahoma State Highway 116 created (1999996)</li>
<li>Llano de Olmedo created (1999997)</li>
<li>George Davida created (1999998)</li>
<li>Nagareyama-​centralpark Station created (1999999)</li>
<li>El Hormiguero created (2000000)</li>
<li>Sum of absolute transformed differences created (2000001)</li>
<li>Audio boot created (2000002)</li>
<li>Famous Pacific Shipping created (2000003)</li>
<li>Kashiwanoha-​campus Station created (2000004)</li>
<li>Terrence Webster-Doyle created (2000005)</li>
<li>Satellite Analysis Branch created (2000006)</li>
<li>Lomoviejo created (2000007)</li>
<li>Offline File System created (2000008)</li>
<li>Theatre Academy (Finland) created (2000009)</li>
<li>Niddrie Primary School created (2000010)</li>
<li>Magar class created (2000011)</li>
<li>Japan's Imperial Conspiracy created (2000012)</li>
<li>Jerusalem bus 26 bombing created (2000013)</li>
<li>John Jay Park created (2000014)</li>
<li>Sebastian von Hoerner created (2000015)</li>
<li>Langayo created (2000016)</li>
<li>Møhlenpris created (2000017)</li>
<li>XT technique created (2000018)</li>
<li>Nick Blackburn created (2000019)</li>
<li>Kapa moe created (2000020)</li>
<li>Green River Correctional Complex created (2000021)</li>
<li>Laguna de Duero created (2000022)</li>
<li>New York State Route 598 created (2000023)</li>
<li>K-3 (Kansas highway) created (2000024)</li>
<li>Banda Station created (2000025)</li>
<li>Medina de Rioseco created (2000026)</li>
</ol>


Well, well. National Post has some editorial about Misplaced Pages on climate change, and the writer does not seem to be pleased with ]. ] (]) 01:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
===The page after two million===
Battle of Nihriya created (2000027)
Minami-Hashimoto Station created (2000028)
New York State Route 825 created (2000029)
Oklahoma State Highway 113 created (2000030)
Viikki Campus created (2000031)
Luther Luckett Correctional Complex created (2000032)
Aoi Station created (2000033)
Matilla de los Caños created (2000034)
Gulf crayfish snake created (2000035)
Rokucho Station created (2000036)
Matapozuelos created (2000037)


==Britannica WebShare==
Thus, we at least know the result is somewhere in that second page of 38 entries. Flipping that page around we get...
"", by Michael Arrington, discusses Britannica's new widget trial program, , in which web publishers of various sorts are given free access to the full version of Britannica online, and the ability to link to individual articles for their readers to access. Most news coverage is describing this as an attempt to cope with what Misplaced Pages has done to their business model.


I suggest that the ''Signpost'' attempt to sign up as a web publisher, so that we could start a new feature of weekly in-depth comparison's of individual articles. It's a long shot whether they would accept us simply because we're part of their competition, but the ''Signpost'' would seem to fall within their definition of who is eligible for the program.--] (]) 16:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
===The page with two million, flipped via OpenOffice Calc (The original number is in parenthesis, the reordered number is at the end===
Medina de Rioseco created (2000026) 1999989


:I am a bit confused why the possibility to link to a full article is being touted as news - this has already been possible for a long time, actually without the need to sign up as a web publisher. I am not sure when I saw that invitation to web masters on the EB site first, but I recall that this kind of free access had already been enabled when I made in July 2007. already use this.
Banda Station created (2000025) 1999990
:By the way, last time I checked it didn't work for links on a preview page; you had to actually save the page. This probably means that they do not trust the ] alone, but check the page given there to verify that it actually links to the Britannica URL. (Or that someone at Britannica has taken some time to study MediaWiki URLs.)
:Regards, ] (]) 17:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


::Thanks for the clarification. Maybe the only difference is that they are adding free 1-year subscriptions for "web publishers" to encourage more people to link to their (excessively ad-filled) articles. Some articles were describing this as part of a soft launch. In any case, now might be a good time to start a regular ''Signpost'' feature comparing specific articles.--] (]) 19:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
K-3 (Kansas highway) created (2000024) 1999991


== User interface changes ==
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Two changes were recently made:
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*{{tl|talkheader}} was changed on 8 April; it now automatically includes links to archive subpages, assuming the archive subpages are numbered in the standard manner (Archive 1, Archive 2, etc.). (].) That means it is no longer necessary to add the {{tl|archive box}} template to a page in order to provide links to archive subpages (again, if named in the standard manner).
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*The tab at the top of discussion pages that was labeled "+" is now labeled "new section", per ]. Editors who prefer the "+" label will find, at the "Gadgets" tab of "my preferences", the option (check box) that reads ''Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+"'', to put the tab back the way it was. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 21:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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Another new change:
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Search now uses a suggestion drop-down— see . This can be disabled by checking:
:] → Search → Disable AJAX suggestions.
--<i><b>—&nbsp;]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>]</sup></font></b> - </i> 18:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


If folks have not looked under My Preferences in a while, all sorts of options have been added in the last month or so, especially under Gadgets. See ] for definitions of all the installed gadgets. --<i><b>—&nbsp;]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>]</sup></font></b> - </i> 23:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
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==Pro-Israel POV group==
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With all the rumors swirling around about pro-Israel cabalism taking place, possibly including some admins, this thread may be of some interest to Misplaced Pages participants . One long-time editor has already been indef blocked over it. ] (]) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:The episode has attracted press attention: . I'll try to add something to the ] article about it. ] (]) 05:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
::Although El Reg normally isn't a source ''Signpost'' would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. ] (]) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::::There have certainly been other instances of people attempting to manipulate content for ideological or profit motives. What I hope results from this is a realignment of the community's priorities. ] ought to be getting as many eyes and as much traffic as ]. When the Wikiscanner came out last summer, three weeks of worldwide headlines proved that we weren't keeping our own house in order. That ought to have been a big eye opener; it wasn't. If it were reasonably certain that a campaign like this one would be caught - and swiftly - by Wikipedians, then this wouldn't be so much of a problem. Coordinated ideological manipulation of any sort is a direct assault on this site's credibility; our dedicated featured article writers would work in vain if the public weren't reasonably confident that most of Misplaced Pages is honest and most of the site is worth reading. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 18:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
This didn't get covered in the latest edition of ''The Misplaced Pages Signpost'', but FWIW here was the info covered in '']'' from April 29 (new sources have covered it since then) - ]. ] (]) 17:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, I see {{user|Ragesoss}} mentioned this below. ] (]) 17:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


== Mention in ]'s latest novel ==
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I don't know if this is the sort of thing the Signpost runs, but just in case ... Misplaced Pages plays a minor but noticeable role in Fowler's latest novel, ''Wit's End''. The novel includes (on pages 144 to 146) the text (somewhat modified) of a real article from Misplaced Pages, ], illustrating what the protagonist finds as she researches Holy City on Misplaced Pages. Another major character, a fictional mystery writer named A.B. Early, is involved in a minor edit war over her own article. Fowler is most notable as the author of '']''. ] ] 02:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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== Mentioned in court by David Irving ==
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], a "much-criticised historian", was recently evicted from a B&B due to his behavior. In an unsucessful breach-of-contract suit against the landlady Irving alleged that she "cooled towards him after her solicitor sent her a copy of his Misplaced Pages entry detailing his views and controversies." She denied it. The case was the written up in '']'' of London. ]] ] 10:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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== wikipedia in mountain bike uk ==
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wikipedia was in mountain bike uk fearuring some mountain biking terms ] (]) 13:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
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== article 2,345,678 ==
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We announced article number 2,222,222. Do we announce 2,345,678? (I don't know which article that was). ] (]) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
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:What's the point of looking for articles like that? I can see the importance of the 1 mill, 2 mill, and 2.5 millionth article, but what's the point? ''''']]''''' <small>]</small> 20:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


== GA debate ==
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I woul certainly hope that the next Signpost will include something about the rather fierce debate at ] about putting the GA symbol on GA articles, similar to FAs. I have only see pros to this no cons. I would like to know if there are any cons to this. ] (]) 03:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
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:Actually, compared to previous discussions on the matter it's pretty tame. ]] 03:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:The current count as of 19:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC) is 47 in support and 25 opposed. There is also some discussion of which symbol to use. ]]
:: Further, I've offered a Dispatch slot to Geometry guy if he wants it, but I don't think this is yet worthy of the Signpost. ] (]) 19:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


== Misplaced Pages in the News - ] article ==
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Recent editing to the] article (refer to the ] nickname) has been mentioned in the ''Marine Corps Times'' in discussing the current perception of the term amongst Marines:
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*{{cite news|accessdate=2008-04-27
|url=http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/04/marine_devildog_042708w/
|title=‘Devil Dog’ term taking a beating
|author=Tilghman, Andrew
|date=April 27, 2008
|work=Marine Corps Times}}
&mdash; ] (]) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


== Item for ''In the News'' ==
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; Eddie Izzard discusses his use of Misplaced Pages, amongst other topics. also mentions that Izzard reads from (and riffs on) Misplaced Pages as part of his current stand-up tour.--] (]) 07:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
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== Technology author and blogger endorses Misplaced Pages ==
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See , ], 30 April 2008, by Paul Gilster. ] (]) 13:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC) <small>Mentioned by IP editor.</small>
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== NYB ==
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Clearly we are aware of the story by now. Please do not discuss the item any further here, per his wishes. ] (]) 16:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
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==Edits of switching superdelegate's bio on Slate==
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The ''Trail Head'' campaign blog on Slate covered the , the vandalism and responses that occurred in ] after Andrew announced switching his support as a superdelegate from Clinton to Obama.--] (]) 16:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


==EFF tries to get Misplaced Pages lawsuit dismissed==
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As covered in , and elsewhere, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton law firm have filed a motion to dismiss a case brought against the Wikimedia Foundation in January. Literary agent Barbara Bauer sued over alleged defamation that occurred in the Misplaced Pages article about her (now deleted because of NPOV, BLP and reliable sourcing concerns, after a heated debate during the second deletion discussion). The EFF argues that ] protects the WMF from liability, as an "interactive computer services" provider rather than a traditional publisher that directly controls published content. This is a test of one of the central legal issues that both directly and indirectly contributes to Misplaced Pages's handling of biographies of living people.--] (]) 16:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


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:Note that this is almost certainly the first time that the legal theory that DMCA section 230 covers the WMF has been tested in court. ] (]) 17:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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:Mike Godwin has requested any communications about this go to him, the EFF, or James Chadwick at Sheppard Mullin. ] (]) 17:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
::The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? ]] 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:::According to Mike, the declaration you're referring to - which is not yet online - was a short declaration that the Barbara Bauer article is no longer available. ] (]) 16:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


I see that a new Misplaced Pages article has been started, focusing on the case itself -- ''']'''. ] (]) 17:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
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:Thanks, Cirt. I have a draft up at ]. One thing I'm confused about is when this lawsuit started. Several sources mention January (2008), but mention of the lawsuit (with the same docket number as listed on the motion to dismiss) first appeared in the Barbara Bauer article well before that, and the court website lists it as having been filed in early March 2007.--] (]) 17:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
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::I see that {{user|Ral315}} deleted both ] and ] citing a ] request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. ] (]) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Mike Godwin has asked that we not publish an article on this until after the case is decided.--] (]) 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


===Sources===
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Here are some sources that could be used. ] (]) 17:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


*{{cite web|url=http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=81881|title=Misplaced Pages Asks Court For Immunity From Liability For User Posts|work=MediaPost Publications|publisher=MediaPost Communications|accessdate=2008-05-05|date=2008-05-05|last=Davis|first=Wendy}}
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*{{cite web|url=http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/05/02|title=EFF and Sheppard Mullin Defend Misplaced Pages in Defamation Case: Federal Law Protects Popular User-Created Encyclopedia From Liability|work=]|publisher=www.eff.org|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02}}
*{{cite web|url=http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080502-dumb-idea-suing-wikipedia-for-calling-you-dumb.html|title=Dumb idea: suing Misplaced Pages for calling you "dumb"|work=Ars Technica - The Art of Technology: From the News Desk|publisher=Ars Technica, LLC|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Anderson|first=Nate}}
*{{cite web|url=http://www.informationweek.com/news/management/legal/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207500346|title=Misplaced Pages Battles Literary Agent Over Negative Comments: While many sites add user-generated content to enhance user experience, Misplaced Pages relies almost entirely on posts from contributors|work=]|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Jones|first=K.C.}}
*{{cite web|url=http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15806|title=Misplaced Pages v literary agent Barbara Bauer|work=p2pnet news|publisher=www.p2pnet.net|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02}}
*{{cite web|url=http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/bauer-v-wikimedia|title=Bauer v. Wikimedia|work=Citizen Media Law Project|publisher=www.citmedialaw.org, Project hosted by ]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Bayard|first=Sam}}


==] May Newsletter==
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The May Newsletter for ] has now been published. ] (]) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Good articles/Newsletter/May 2008}}
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==New magic word: PAGESIZE==
A new magic word was recently implemented, but not covered in Misplaced Pages Signpost. <code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:page name}}</nowiki></code> returns the size of the given page name (], r33551). This contributes to a page's expensive parser function count. For example:
* "<code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:Main Page}}</nowiki></code>" = "4,769" (default);
* "<code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:Main Page|R}}</nowiki></code>" = "4769" (with raw flag).
—<small>{]} ] 09:49:27, 03 May 2008 (UTC)</small>


==National Post attacks editor, global warming coverage==
This would seem to indicate that my article (El Hormiguero) was about 15 off from the two million mark. If we want a definitive answer, though, we will have to replay the mysql logs. Personally, I think it's good to not know the exact number, as it gives us flexibility to choose the best article of those around the two million mark. (In fact, I believe that this is what was done for El Hormiguero - it was the best article among those that were in the range of being two million. It was just a fluke that my data said that it was identically two million.) ] 16:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
The '']'' is running an by Lawrence Solomon (], author of a book and about global warming deniers) attacking ] for supposedly enforcing his own opinions on global warming articles and smearing prominent scientists whose views on global warming differ from "global warming orthodoxy".


As part of Solomon's extended writing on "The Deniers", the ''Post'' has been publishing a series of anti-Misplaced Pages pieces in the last several weeks. The earlier ones are "", , and .--] (]) 17:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:'''Yet another update...''' Even though I corrected the "page flipping" in my log data, it should be noted that there is still the matter of synchronization of the "goodarticles" statistic from special:log. I synchronized my script, which was using special:newpages and special:log, to the special:statistics data at about 1999000 articles. At this point, I left it alone to ensure an uninterrupted recording of the two millionth article. However, '''since my script did not adjust its count for existing articles becoming redirects (or other pages with no links), redirect pages becoming articles, pages being moved into or out of the main namespace, or whether new pages contained any links.''' I was working on a much better script (with perl and irssi) using the irc feed to produce a much more accurate number, but we hit two million while I was about halfway finished. As such, it should be noted that these numbers give a good ballpark figure of which articles qualify to be the two millionth, but even the corrected data may have an error of 10 or more articles in either direction. The important thing with these milestones seems to be to have a good article around the two million point, rather than an attempt to analyze things perfectly to get the first article that caused 'goodarticles' in the master database to be >=2000000. The link to the original, raw uncorrected output of my javascript is here: If anyone needs the javascript that produced that data, leave a message here and I will leave it on your talk page. ] 02:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


==CAMERA campaign makes mainstream news==
::Misplaced Pages deletes about one article for every three created. Even assuming you know the number of articles at a specific point of time, then to accurately advance the total you need to add creations and subtract deletions to figure out the change in the total number of articles over time. Not that it matters all that much. The "1 millionth" article was designated by taking an interesting article created at near the right time and simple asserting that it was good enough, even though some post-hoc analysis suggests the article that truly pushed the tally to 1 million may have been off by 20 or so entries. ] 04:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC
Related to "Pro-Israel POV group" above:
:::Just to clarify, my script did track page deletions and page creations. However, it suffered from the limitations mentioned in my post. ] 04:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


The ] (CAMERA) has been engaged in a campaign (the subject of a recently accepted ]) to fight against alleged anti-Israel bias in Misplaced Pages, including attempts to install administrators who can help enforce CAMERA's viewpoint. ''The Boston Globe'' (CAMERA is based in Boston) is running an article, , on the CAMERA campaign and the efforts of the pro-Palestinian ] to expose and discredit the campaign.
== ] ==


CAMERA also published an article today, , publicly encouraging CAMERA readers to become Misplaced Pages editors. On a quick review, I notice nothing too out-of-hand in this article (in contrast to some of the leaked correspondence described in the ''Boston Globe'' piece).
:''NB: this was removed without explanation earlier.''


Note that this intersects with the recent ''Wikinews'' ] (also covered by ''The Register'' and elsewhere); the DoJ IPs were banned for attempting to remove material from the CAMERA article.--] (]) 01:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I imagine that the rather heated ] - tying into the "BADSITES" Arbitration matter - plus the actions of the principle users concerned, the protection of the article by its creator, the semi-protection by another, the stubbing, destubbing by a different admin, etc., will be rather interesting in news form.--] (]) 06:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


I'm curious - where are the emails published? ] (]) 17:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:I think this would be an unwise choice that would needlessly inflame passions and hurt feelings, considering the larger context of things. ] 15:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:... ] (]) 17:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


===Sources===
::I think in "the larger context", the fact that this battle between a handful of people is having so much effect on all sorts of Misplaced Pages policy issues is newsworthy, as is the continued attempts to sweep the whole thing under the rug. ] 15:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Hear, hear. The debate closed, with the verdict of ] to ]. As the deletion lister, I'm perfectly satisfied.--] (]) 15:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC) Here are some of the related sources covering the above-mentioned info. ] (]) 17:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
*{{cite web|url=http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1485|title=CAMERA: How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages|work=CAMERA - Media Analyses|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-03|last=Ini|first=Gilead}}
The Judd Bagley article debate is part of a major controversy in Misplaced Pages, not just concerning the BADSITES debacle, but also efforts by many Misplaced Pages administrators to suppress any mention of Bagley's website in Misplaced Pages, the allegations that at least one prominent Misplaced Pages administrator is engaging in bad faith actions and is being protected in doing so by other administrators, that a journalist was editing and protecting his own bio article on Misplaced Pages and that Misplaced Pages administrators were knowingly allowing him to do so, and the criticism of Misplaced Pages administrators and editors in off-site sources. If there isn't an interesting story here that's worth investigating and reporting on, then I don't know what is. ] 16:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
*{{cite web|url=http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/articles/2008/05/03/war_of_the_virtual_wiki_worlds/|title=War of the virtual Wiki-worlds|work=]|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2005-05-03|last=Beam|first=Alex}}
:"Suppress any mention of Bagley's website"... I wouldn't say that's true, but go for the story!--] (]) 16:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
*{{cite web|url=http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/685052/Department_of_Justice_Temp_Banned_from_Wikipedia.html|title=Department of Justice Temp Banned from Misplaced Pages|work=G4 - The Feed - The Only News You Need to Know|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-30|last=Leahy|first=Brian}}
::Oh, believe me, it's true. I have some painful, personal experience with it. See ]. ] 17:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
*{{cite web
|url=http://en.wikinews.org/US_Dept._of_Justice_IP_address_blocked_after_%27vandalism%27_edits_to_Wikipedia|title=US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages|work=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-29}}
*{{cite web|url=http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=1840|title=If You Don`t Want to Be Labelled a Cabal, Don`t Act Like One|work=Israel News |publisher=www.israelenews.com|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-24|last=Weiss|first=Philip}}


== Featured list director ==
I agree. This is a major issue. But on the other hand, Bagley's website says some deeply unseemly things about a number of editors. And while I think there are contexts where discussion of it cannot be avoided, this isn't one of them, and I see no reason to step into it. ] 21:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to wait for the outcome of arbitration, after all of the factors have been weighed by the appropriate body? <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 02:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
::Possibly, but I suspect that the arbcom is just going to rule on the narrow issue of whether NPA applies to thea rticle space. ] 03:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:::The scary thing is if anything on Judd's website proves to be true. If so, this could be the most serious threat to the credibility of Misplaced Pages since the Essjay fiasco. Especially since it involves an admin who is responsible for writing most of Misplaced Pages's current policies plus one of the few oversight admins. The lid is finally starting to open on the story and we'll have to see what happens. ] 04:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:A quick review of the site reveals much unseemliness, indeed! I propose documenting '''each''' unseemly thing. Let's use the following chart, listing each of the 11 Misplaced Pages editors mentioned on the site, together with the claim made of them, what, if any outside confirmation might exist to support the claim, and then a column dedicated entirely to that which is ''least'' unseemly! This should be fun! Have at it!!!
::{| class="wikitable"
|-
! '''Editor'''
! '''Claim'''
! '''Reality'''
! '''Unseemliness'''
|-
| ]
| has a COI problem
| ] confirms
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| is a ] sock (now inactive)
| ] confirms
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| is a ] sock (now inactive)
| ] confirms
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| exists
| ] confirms
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| is a ] sockpuppet (now inactive)
| ] confirms
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| oversighted embarrassing ] edits
| recovered diffs confirm
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| exists
| ] confirms
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| Proposed the article on ] for deletion
| nobody denies
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| Deleted the record of the ] deletion debate
| ] admits
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| Has a name in real life
| unconfirmed
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|-
| ]
| is upset about most of these things
| his blog confirms
| <font color="tan">(please insert unseemliness here)</font>
|}--] 07:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


There is currently a movement/vote underway to select a Featured List director (or more probably two). See ] for background/ongoing discussion, and ] for the current vote. As FA director, ] has been asked (and has agreed) to close the vote and appoint the directors on 8th May. The two users with the most votes currently are ] and ]. ] (]) <small>(])</small> 13:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:Even if not to be reported on in the ''Signpost'', it's worth being formally investigated by the Foundation since it's the next ]!--] (]) 09:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
: This will be covered in the May 12 Dispatch. ] (]) 13:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::I would like to ''strongly oppose'' this. There are a number of editors who I know aren't happy about being stalked or harassed. I've personally been listed wrongly on a website - ] - because I'm an admin who did something they don't like. It's not pleasant, and it's not something we want to promote. Please, let's not write about this one. - ] 10:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:: Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -] (]) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Does everybody get a free pass from having to face exposure of one's misdeeds by screaming "harrassment!" and "stalking!", or just those with status in the favored clique? ] 12:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
::: Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. ] (]) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? ] (]) <small>(])</small> 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::: I don't see any reason why it can't get a brief mention in News and notes. ] (]) 22:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

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WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits

This looks neat. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html That's the actual site, it's really interesting. Cirt (talk) 21:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It's so cool. But how come 9 out of 10 anonymous edits are from U.S.? OhanaUnited 21:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Surely it would depend upon the time of day. The US would of course dominate during the hours when the Western hemisphere is most active. Also, the tool only tracks anonymous edits, and doesn't include IPs that can't be tied down to a single country, which may introduce unintentional biases. Still, I find this incredibly cool, and actually kind of inspiring.--Pharos (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia and Suicide

The BMJ put wikipedia as the forth most common result of suicide releated terms and catigoriesed wikipedia as "Information site: factual"

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/336/7648/800

Geni 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Note that it's not claiming any of the suicide-related articles on Misplaced Pages are factually correct, only that Misplaced Pages falls within a class of sites deemed to present fact-based information about the topic (instead of, say, promoting suicide, or offering news reports about people who committed suicide). Mindmatrix 16:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Is Misplaced Pages a reliable source for sources? Seems so!

From this study seems we are getting better at citing our sources. Gnangarra 01:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The Internet-based encyclopædia Misplaced Pages has grown to become one of the most visited Web sites on the Internet, but critics have questioned the quality of entries. An empirical study of Misplaced Pages found errors in a 2005 sample of science entries. Biased coverage and lack of sources are among the “Misplaced Pages risks.” This paper describes a simple assessment of these aspects by examining the outbound links from Misplaced Pages articles to articles in scientific journals with a comparison against journal statistics from Journal Citation Reports such as impact factors. The results show an increasing use of structured citation markup and good agreement with citation patterns seen in the scientific literature though with a slight tendency to cite articles in high-impact journals such as Nature and Science. These results increase confidence in Misplaced Pages as a reliable information resource for science in general. Many citations also go to Australian botany journals, seemingly because of the Banksia Wikiproject that has made well-referenced articles for this genus of plants with the beautiful flowers. A number of the articles for these plants has become so-called “featured” on Misplaced Pages: Coast Banksia, (this Banksia is listed as endangered), Heath-leaved Banksia and Banksia epica.

Newspaper picks up on local vandalism

A local paper finds that some IPs have been randomly vandalizing the article on their town (see diff). Paper apparently knows nothing about Misplaced Pages, saying "Efforts to reach Misplaced Pages officials for comment Tuesday were unsuccessful." Joshdboz (talk) 16:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Just a personal note: did someone really take the time to write a whole article on this? Must be a slow news week. And note that a municipal department had to be "alerted" about it! --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
True, though I think it also stems from a complete ignorance of what actually goes on here, so when they see something funny happening to an article relevant to them, it seems a lot more important than it really is. Joshdboz (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

And another on a series of vandalism to Denshaw. Joshdboz (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

BBC TV too, item here. Mr Stephen (talk) 22:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

The Daily Telegraph has also picked it up, here. Mr Stephen (talk) 13:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

And now Sky News--Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 15:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

UPI Joshdboz (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages, climate change, National Post and User:Tabletop

Well, well. National Post has some editorial about Misplaced Pages on climate change, and the writer does not seem to be pleased with User:Tabletop. SYSS Mouse (talk) 01:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Britannica WebShare

"Encyclopedia Britannica Now Free For Bloggers", by Michael Arrington, discusses Britannica's new widget trial program, Britannica WebShare, in which web publishers of various sorts are given free access to the full version of Britannica online, and the ability to link to individual articles for their readers to access. Most news coverage is describing this as an attempt to cope with what Misplaced Pages has done to their business model.

I suggest that the Signpost attempt to sign up as a web publisher, so that we could start a new feature of weekly in-depth comparison's of individual articles. It's a long shot whether they would accept us simply because we're part of their competition, but the Signpost would seem to fall within their definition of who is eligible for the program.--ragesoss (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I am a bit confused why the possibility to link to a full article is being touted as news - this has already been possible for a long time, actually without the need to sign up as a web publisher. I am not sure when I saw that invitation to web masters on the EB site first, but I recall that this kind of free access had already been enabled when I made this edit in July 2007. Many Misplaced Pages articles already use this.
By the way, last time I checked it didn't work for links on a preview page; you had to actually save the page. This probably means that they do not trust the HTTP referer alone, but check the page given there to verify that it actually links to the Britannica URL. (Or that someone at Britannica has taken some time to study MediaWiki URLs.)
Regards, High on a tree (talk) 17:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Maybe the only difference is that they are adding free 1-year subscriptions for "web publishers" to encourage more people to link to their (excessively ad-filled) articles. Some articles were describing this as part of a soft launch. In any case, now might be a good time to start a regular Signpost feature comparing specific articles.--ragesoss (talk) 19:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

User interface changes

Two changes were recently made:

  • {{talkheader}} was changed on 8 April; it now automatically includes links to archive subpages, assuming the archive subpages are numbered in the standard manner (Archive 1, Archive 2, etc.). (Discussion.) That means it is no longer necessary to add the {{archive box}} template to a page in order to provide links to archive subpages (again, if named in the standard manner).
  • The tab at the top of discussion pages that was labeled "+" is now labeled "new section", per this discussion. Editors who prefer the "+" label will find, at the "Gadgets" tab of "my preferences", the option (check box) that reads Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+", to put the tab back the way it was. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Another new change: Search now uses a suggestion drop-down— see . This can be disabled by checking:

My Preferences → Search → Disable AJAX suggestions.

--— Gadget850 (Ed)  - 18:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

If folks have not looked under My Preferences in a while, all sorts of options have been added in the last month or so, especially under Gadgets. See Special:Gadgets for definitions of all the installed gadgets. --— Gadget850 (Ed)  - 23:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Pro-Israel POV group

With all the rumors swirling around about pro-Israel cabalism taking place, possibly including some admins, this thread may be of some interest to Misplaced Pages participants . One long-time editor has already been indef blocked over it. Cla68 (talk) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The episode has attracted press attention: . I'll try to add something to the Criticism of Misplaced Pages article about it. Cla68 (talk) 05:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Although El Reg normally isn't a source Signpost would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. Durova 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. Cla68 (talk) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
There have certainly been other instances of people attempting to manipulate content for ideological or profit motives. What I hope results from this is a realignment of the community's priorities. WP:COIN ought to be getting as many eyes and as much traffic as WP:AN. When the Wikiscanner came out last summer, three weeks of worldwide headlines proved that we weren't keeping our own house in order. That ought to have been a big eye opener; it wasn't. If it were reasonably certain that a campaign like this one would be caught - and swiftly - by Wikipedians, then this wouldn't be so much of a problem. Coordinated ideological manipulation of any sort is a direct assault on this site's credibility; our dedicated featured article writers would work in vain if the public weren't reasonably confident that most of Misplaced Pages is honest and most of the site is worth reading. Durova 18:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This didn't get covered in the latest edition of The Misplaced Pages Signpost, but FWIW here was the info covered in Wikinews from April 29 (new sources have covered it since then) - US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages. Cirt (talk) 17:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see Ragesoss (talk · contribs) mentioned this below. Cirt (talk) 17:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Mention in Karen Joy Fowler's latest novel

I don't know if this is the sort of thing the Signpost runs, but just in case ... Misplaced Pages plays a minor but noticeable role in Fowler's latest novel, Wit's End. The novel includes (on pages 144 to 146) the text (somewhat modified) of a real article from Misplaced Pages, Holy City, California, illustrating what the protagonist finds as she researches Holy City on Misplaced Pages. Another major character, a fictional mystery writer named A.B. Early, is involved in a minor edit war over her own article. Fowler is most notable as the author of The Jane Austen Book Club. Mike Christie (talk) 02:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Mentioned in court by David Irving

David Irving, a "much-criticised historian", was recently evicted from a B&B due to his behavior. In an unsucessful breach-of-contract suit against the landlady Irving alleged that she "cooled towards him after her solicitor sent her a copy of his Misplaced Pages entry detailing his views and controversies." She denied it. The case was the written up in The Independent of London. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 10:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia in mountain bike uk

wikipedia was in mountain bike uk fearuring some mountain biking terms Grandoldman (talk) 13:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

article 2,345,678

We announced article number 2,222,222. Do we announce 2,345,678? (I don't know which article that was). RJFJR (talk) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

What's the point of looking for articles like that? I can see the importance of the 1 mill, 2 mill, and 2.5 millionth article, but what's the point? bibliomaniac15 Do I have your trust? 20:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

GA debate

I woul certainly hope that the next Signpost will include something about the rather fierce debate at WT:GA about putting the GA symbol on GA articles, similar to FAs. I have only see pros to this no cons. I would like to know if there are any cons to this. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 03:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, compared to previous discussions on the matter it's pretty tame. VanTucky 03:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The current count as of 19:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC) is 47 in support and 25 opposed. There is also some discussion of which symbol to use. VanTucky
Further, I've offered a Dispatch slot to Geometry guy if he wants it, but I don't think this is yet worthy of the Signpost. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages in the News - Devil Dog article

Recent editing to theDevil Dog article (refer to the United States Marine Corps nickname) has been mentioned in the Marine Corps Times in discussing the current perception of the term amongst Marines:

— ERcheck (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Item for In the News

Newsweek article; Eddie Izzard discusses his use of Misplaced Pages, amongst other topics. This article also mentions that Izzard reads from (and riffs on) Misplaced Pages as part of his current stand-up tour.--Father Goose (talk) 07:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Technology author and blogger endorses Misplaced Pages

See Misplaced Pages's concept is proved, The News & Observer, 30 April 2008, by Paul Gilster. Carcharoth (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Mentioned previously by IP editor.

NYB

Clearly we are aware of the story by now. Please do not discuss the item any further here, per his wishes. Ral315 (talk) 16:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Edits of switching superdelegate's bio on Slate

The Trail Head campaign blog on Slate covered the Anatomy of a Misplaced Pages Hijacking, the vandalism and responses that occurred in Joe Andrew after Andrew announced switching his support as a superdelegate from Clinton to Obama.--ragesoss (talk) 16:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

EFF tries to get Misplaced Pages lawsuit dismissed

As covered in Kansas City infoZine, Ars Technica and elsewhere, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton law firm have filed a motion to dismiss a case brought against the Wikimedia Foundation in January. Literary agent Barbara Bauer sued over alleged defamation that occurred in the Misplaced Pages article about her (now deleted because of NPOV, BLP and reliable sourcing concerns, after a heated debate during the second deletion discussion). The EFF argues that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects the WMF from liability, as an "interactive computer services" provider rather than a traditional publisher that directly controls published content. This is a test of one of the central legal issues that both directly and indirectly contributes to Misplaced Pages's handling of biographies of living people.--ragesoss (talk) 16:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Note that this is almost certainly the first time that the legal theory that DMCA section 230 covers the WMF has been tested in court. Raul654 (talk) 17:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Mike Godwin has requested any communications about this go to him, the EFF, or James Chadwick at Sheppard Mullin. Raul654 (talk) 17:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? VanTucky 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
According to Mike, the declaration you're referring to - which is not yet online - was a short declaration that the Barbara Bauer article is no longer available. Raul654 (talk) 16:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I see that a new Misplaced Pages article has been started, focusing on the case itself -- Bauer v. Glatzer. Cirt (talk) 17:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Cirt. I have a draft up at User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit. One thing I'm confused about is when this lawsuit started. Several sources mention January (2008), but mention of the lawsuit (with the same docket number as listed on the motion to dismiss) first appeared in the Barbara Bauer article well before that, and the court website lists it as having been filed in early March 2007.--ragesoss (talk) 17:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I see that Ral315 (talk · contribs) deleted both Bauer v. Glatzer and User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit citing a WP:OFFICE request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. Cirt (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Mike Godwin has asked that we not publish an article on this until after the case is decided.--ragesoss (talk) 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Sources

Here are some sources that could be used. Cirt (talk) 17:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles May Newsletter

The May Newsletter for WikiProject Good Articles has now been published. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Good articles Newsletter

The WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
Volume I, No. 7 - May 2008

April issue | June issue

Project News
  • There are currently 4,050 Good Articles listed at WP:GA.
  • The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 195 unreviewed articles. Out of 227 total nominations, 16 are on hold, 14 are under review, and two are seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance!
The oldest unreviewed articles are: Fighting Tommy Riley, Brock Lesnar, Cluj-Napoca, Wolf's Rain, Brian Kendrick, and North and South (TV serial).
The categories with the largest backlogs are: Theatre, film and drama (45), Sports and recreation (34), Music (18), Transport (15), World history (14), Politics and government (13), and Places (12).
The backlog at Good Article Reassessment currently stands at 17 articles up for re-review.
GAN Reviewer of the Month

Noble Story (talk · contribs) is the GAN Reviewer of the Month for April, based on the assessments made by Dr. Cash on the number and thoroughness of the reviews made by individual reviewers each week. Noble Story joined Misplaced Pages on May 16, 2007. He is a big fan of the Houston Rockets, and edits many related articles, as well as articles on basketball in general. Congratulations to Noble Story (talk · contribs) on being April's GAN Reviewer of the Month!

Other outstanding reviewers during the month of April include:

Member News

There are now 212 members of WikiProject Good Articles! Welcome to the 17 new members that joined during the month of April:

This WikiProject, and the Good Article program as a whole, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

GA Topic

Do you know what a GA topic is? If you are not nodding your head, or don't know what I'm talking about, then you should pay attention to this article.

There are ten GA top-level topics (but you will spot the eleventh as this article goes along). These topics are: Arts, Language and literature, Philosophy and religion, Everyday life, Social sciences and society, Geography and places, History, Engineering and technology, Mathematics, and Natural sciences. Each of these topics are further narrowed down to more specific topics. For example, Arts can be narrowed down to Art and architecture, Music, and Theatre, film and drama. But let's not get into sub-topics in this article because of its depth.

Now you will probably ask, "I already knew this, so what is your point?" What I want to illustrate is that some people often forget a step when they promote an article to GA. After they have posted their review in the article talk page, added the article name to the corresponding topic in the good article page, increased the GA count by 1, and added the {{GA}} to article talk page, many reviewers tend to forget to add the topic parameter in {{GA}} or {{ArticleHistory}}. You can browse the topic parameter abbreviations at on this page as well as what each top-level GA topic means, because sometimes it can be chaotic and confusing to pick a topic. For example, should On the Origin of Species be placed under the Natural Science topic (because it's related to evolution), or under the Language and Literature topic (because it is a book)? The correct answer is to place it under Language and literature topic, because its categorization as a proper title supercedes other categories.

Let's go back to the page that shows GA topics; does anyone spot the eleventh topic? Yes, Category:Good articles without topic parameter is the 11th topic, only it shouldn't be there. Articles that do not have a topic parameter in either {{GA}} or {{ArticleHistory}} will be placed in this category. The topic "Uncategorized" is not very informative, is it? So if you have time, you can consider cleaning up the articles that are left in this category and move them to the appropriate category by adding a topic parameter.

That's it for this month, I hope you learned a little from it.

GA Sweeps Update

The GA Sweeps process is progressing nicely! During the month of April, a total of 26 articles were reviewed. Of that total, 15 were found to continue to meet the GA criteria, and two were delisted. There are currently six articles that are still on hold in this process, awaiting revisions. One article was exempted from review because it was promoted to FA. Two articles were exempted from review because they were already delisted by another member in the community.

We are once again recruiting new sweeps participants. Candidates should be very strong and comfortable in reviewing GA and familiar with the GA processes and criteria. If you are interested, please contact OhanaUnited for details.

Did You Know...
  • ...that there are slightly less than twice as many Good Articles as Featured Articles?
  • ...that the total number of Good Articles and Featured Articles combined is 6,085?
  • ...that different languages have different symbols representing GA? (Alemannic uses , Bavarian uses , Czech and French use , Estonian, Icelandic, and Swedish use , Esperanto and German use , Polish, Spanish, and Turkish use , Portuguese uses , Russian uses , Ukrainian uses )

Note: Lithuanian and Serbian have their own symbol but only uploaded locally. Other languages not listed above either have the same symbol as english or they don't have GA process.

From the Editors

There is currently a debate on adding a small green dot to the top right corner of all Good Articles that pass the criteria, similar to the small bronze star that is added to the top right corner of Featured Articles. Members of WikiProject Good Articles are encouraged to participate in the debate on this page.

Please leave any comments or feedback regarding this issue here.

Contributors to this Issue
  • Dr. Cash (Lead Editor, Distributor)
  • OhanaUnited (Article, GA Sweeps and Did You Know correspondent)

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New magic word: PAGESIZE

A new magic word was recently implemented, but not covered in Misplaced Pages Signpost. {{PAGESIZE:page name}} returns the size of the given page name (bug 12698, r33551). This contributes to a page's expensive parser function count. For example:

  • "{{PAGESIZE:Main Page}}" = "4,769" (default);
  • "{{PAGESIZE:Main Page|R}}" = "4769" (with raw flag).

—{admin} Pathoschild 09:49:27, 03 May 2008 (UTC)

National Post attacks editor, global warming coverage

The National Post is running an opinion piece called "The opinionator" by Lawrence Solomon (User:Lawrence Solomon, author of a book and many articles about global warming deniers) attacking User:William M. Connolley for supposedly enforcing his own opinions on global warming articles and smearing prominent scientists whose views on global warming differ from "global warming orthodoxy".

As part of Solomon's extended writing on "The Deniers", the Post has been publishing a series of anti-Misplaced Pages pieces in the last several weeks. The earlier ones are "Misplaced Pages's zealots", Hide your name on Wicked Pedia, and The real climate Martians.--ragesoss (talk) 17:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

CAMERA campaign makes mainstream news

Related to "Pro-Israel POV group" above:

The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) has been engaged in a campaign (the subject of a recently accepted Arbcom case) to fight against alleged anti-Israel bias in Misplaced Pages, including attempts to install administrators who can help enforce CAMERA's viewpoint. The Boston Globe (CAMERA is based in Boston) is running an article, War of the virtual Wiki-worlds, on the CAMERA campaign and the efforts of the pro-Palestinian Electronic Intifada to expose and discredit the campaign.

CAMERA also published an article today, How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages, publicly encouraging CAMERA readers to become Misplaced Pages editors. On a quick review, I notice nothing too out-of-hand in this article (in contrast to some of the leaked correspondence described in the Boston Globe piece).

Note that this intersects with the recent Wikinews Department of Justice banning story (also covered by The Register and elsewhere); the DoJ IPs were banned for attempting to remove material from the CAMERA article.--ragesoss (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm curious - where are the emails published? Raul654 (talk) 17:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind... Raul654 (talk) 17:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Sources

Here are some of the related sources covering the above-mentioned info. Cirt (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured list director

There is currently a movement/vote underway to select a Featured List director (or more probably two). See Misplaced Pages talk:Featured list candidates for background/ongoing discussion, and Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/Featured list director for the current vote. As FA director, User:Raul654 has been asked (and has agreed) to close the vote and appoint the directors on 8th May. The two users with the most votes currently are User:Scorpion0422 and User:The Rambling Man. Tompw (talk) (review) 13:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

This will be covered in the May 12 Dispatch. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -Ravedave (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? Tompw (talk) (review) 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why it can't get a brief mention in News and notes. Ral315 (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
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