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This is an example of a wiki article I really take issue with. The "criticism" section is extraordinarily tiny, for such a controversial figure. She's a tough-talking daytime TV judge, and the only criticism is a couple of lines from one source? I guarantee there's something better out there. Or at least more. Also, what's with the quotes? Some might be original (though most aren't), but regardless it's unnecessary. Put them on wikiquote. | |||
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I think that the quotes are a good addition to the article. I thought that the quotes were actually the best part of the article because some of them were quite funny. If you take them off the article, it will be a bore to read. Most biographies on Misplaced Pages have quotes to show the person's character. Keep it where it is, it is fine. | |||
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Personally, I think the quotes are too lengthy. Perhaps, if they were culled down a bit? As it stands, that's a massive wall of quotes, many of which are not original or particularly memorable. I failed to log in the first time. | |||
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* Her mother died of ], which Judge Judy says was misdiagnosed as ]. | |||
* Judy herself says that she saw it as a way to reach out to everyday people and share her opinions on life with a broader audience. | |||
* Her style is disighned as encouraging people to "take responsibility for...... actions and the children... brought into the world." "Americans have the right to know how their interests are being represented," says Judy herself, and the site also credits her with pioneering an ] policy, which was not common at the time. | |||
* Finally, Sheindlin has appeared in ] commercials explaining how to play popular table gambling games for ] group, using her no nonsense approach to breakdown the key rules of games such as ].}} | |||
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Judge's Judys house is not in new york | |||
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== Judge Judy Death Hoax == | |||
I noticed that someone completely removed the (wholly legitimate) criticisms section that I had added to the article. I will be reposting it when I get the time, and would greatly appreciate it if one of the users on this page could assist me. | |||
There is a hoax email claiming Judge Judy is dead. An email should not be used as a source. ] ] 15:37, 5 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
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== Mike Bloomberg == | |||
I take strong issue with the quotes section on this article. I edited a bit of the private life section, changing sentence structure for a more even flow. If it were my choice, I would remove the quote section all together. It does not seem appropriate for an encyclopedia article, and the list is becoming much too long. There have been several unregistered users simply adding humorous quotes to the already-ten-times-too-long list. While most of them are quotes used by Judy on her program, they are unnecessary, and contribute nothing to the article.<br> | |||
If such quotes would like to be kept on Misplaced Pages, this article is not the place for them. ] is a television show, and Judy's stereotypical quotes are merely part of acting. '''An actor's quotes in a television program are not considered his/her own personal quotes.''' If, for some reason, we have a dire interest in keeping the extensive list of quotes, they should, at minimum, be moved to the ] article.<br> | |||
Any opinions, concerns? Speak up, or I will feel free to transfer them. ] 23:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
According to ]'s https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-campaign-ads/#candidate=michael-bloomberg&market=ca , was one "Aired 1,850 times between Jan. 12 and Feb. 5", including in some very prominent national slots, for a cost of over 1 M$. This might be relevant to note if there's a secondary source discussing it. ] 18:21, 2 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
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==Lawsuit== | |||
Sorry to intrude here folks, but I think removing what little criticism and controversial material from this article was a complete whitewash. Judge Judy is famous presicely because of here contoversial views and authoritarian personality. To remove her views on both serious social and legal problems of the day is like talking about Stalin and neglecting to mention the purges or the Gulag. For an article about one of the most popular judges in America, to not talk about her social let alone legal views, seems odd to me (albeit, that doesn't count for much :) ). | |||
Sheindlin has recently been involved in a legal dispute over packaging fees for the show. Coverage of this should be added. It's complicated and I haven't been following it so I won't do it myself.] (]) 17:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
:{{ul|Billposer}} Can you link any sources about this? ] ''(]·])'' 19:23, 29 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Sure. Here's a recent one. Google: "Judy Sheindlin suit Lawrence" and you'll find quite a few more. https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/judge-judy-lawsuit/ ] (]) 21:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC) |
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Judge Judy Death Hoax
There is a hoax email claiming Judge Judy is dead. An email should not be used as a source. Dominick 15:37, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
GA Review
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Judith Sheindlin/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have the full review up shortly. Dana boomer (talk) 00:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
I would like to see the lead expanded a bit - maybe by two or three sentences that help to summarize the article a bit more thoroughly.
- I've attempted to do that. Happyme22 (talk) 01:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- The sentence "But Sheindlin was becoming a rising star, and her fame was spreading." at the end of the Law career section is peacocky and unneeded, IMO.
- I'm not so sure. I included that as a sort of transition into the next section, and to inform readers that her fame was indeed spreading. Happyme22 (talk) 01:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that something like this would make a good transition. However, "rising star" and "fame was spreading" are unencyclopedic. Perhaps change it to something like "After her retirement, Sheindlin continued to receive increasing amounts of public attention."
Judge Judy section - please tell when she was approached by Big Ticket television.
- Don't know exactly, but I've narrowed it down. Happyme22 (talk) 01:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Judge Judy section - "Sheindlin extended her contract through the 2011-12 season (its 16th),". Its 16th what?
- 16th season. Clarified. Happyme22 (talk) 01:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
I've added a fact tag in one place where I would like to see a reference.
- I have hopefully resolved that. The divorce is a well-known fact, but the motives were indeed uncited and I cannot seem to find one at this time. Happyme22 (talk) 01:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- What makes Ref #3 (MSN) a reliable reference?
- I should have clarified; that's MSN Encarta Encyclopedia. The same source is used at other prominent articles, including GA George W. Bush. Happyme22 (talk) 01:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- This actually looks to be published by MSN Movies, and written by someone else. How is this reliable?
- You are correct. I was confusing this with another source. No matter, though, because I have removed the reference altogether. Happyme22 (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- While Ref #4 (Judgejudy.com) is reliable for non-controversial facts about her (where she got her law degree, how many kids she has), it is not reliable for claims made about her (such as the last two sentences of the second paragraph of the Law career section) and as such should be replaced in these latter instances.
- I disagree. This is the official biography of Judge Judy and as such I see nothing wrong with citing it for what seems to be significant and important achievements in Sheindlin's career. Happyme22 (talk) 01:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Errrr, yes. Except that it's a biography on a website that is promoting her and her show. That means that everything is going to be shown in the most favorable light possible. Here are the exact phrases I have problems with being cited to this website, and the reasons:
- She earned a reputation as one of New York's toughest judges. - If she's the only one saying she has this reputation, then it's not a very solid reputation. If an independent source said she has a reputation, that's one thing; if she says she has a reputation, that's a completely different thing.
- Sheindlin is credited with pioneering the idea of an "open court policy", which allowed members of the public and the media to view the proceedings of court, an uncommon practice. - Really? Who credits her with this?
- The rest of the things being cited to this I have no problem with, because they are either non-controversial or personal information that she has no reason to try to fudge. However, the above two statements are mainly opinion, and citing an outside opinion (reputation, being credited with something) to the person in question is just asking for it to be biased towards the person giving you the information.
- Okay, I have reworded it and provided different citations. Happyme22 (talk) 22:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars etc.:
- No edit wars etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- There are a few prose/MOS and referencing issues with this article, so I am placing the review on hold for now. Please let me know if you have any questions. Dana boomer (talk) 01:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've struck the comments that are finished, but I still have questions/problems with a few other things. Dana boomer (talk) 15:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Everything looks good, so I'm going to pass this article to GA status. Nice work. Dana boomer (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you! Sorry about all the confusion. Happyme22 (talk) 05:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Everything looks good, so I'm going to pass this article to GA status. Nice work. Dana boomer (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've struck the comments that are finished, but I still have questions/problems with a few other things. Dana boomer (talk) 15:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- There are a few prose/MOS and referencing issues with this article, so I am placing the review on hold for now. Please let me know if you have any questions. Dana boomer (talk) 01:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
Mike Bloomberg
According to FiveThirtyEight's https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-campaign-ads/#candidate=michael-bloomberg&market=ca , Judy Sheindlin's spot for Mike Bloomberg was one "Aired 1,850 times between Jan. 12 and Feb. 5", including in some very prominent national slots, for a cost of over 1 M$. This might be relevant to note if there's a secondary source discussing it. Nemo 18:21, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Lawsuit
Sheindlin has recently been involved in a legal dispute over packaging fees for the show. Coverage of this should be added. It's complicated and I haven't been following it so I won't do it myself.Bill (talk) 17:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Billposer Can you link any sources about this? Alyo (chat·edits) 19:23, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sure. Here's a recent one. Google: "Judy Sheindlin suit Lawrence" and you'll find quite a few more. https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/judge-judy-lawsuit/ Bill (talk) 21:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
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