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*'''] → ]'''. - I listed this here yesterday, and Admin Anthony Appleyard moved it to the wrong page. Per the film company's own page, title is Punisher: War Zone. Since then, it's been bounced across half a dozen new titles in the last 24 hours. It belongs at the page that matches the title. I moved it there. Now the talk page is lost, and the page ia FUBAR. Too many editors have cut'n' pasted, destroying redirects an the entire thing is a mess. Please fix this so the talk page and the article are both at ], the title that matches citation. ] 01:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
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**When I looked at this page and obeyed it, it was at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Requested_moves&oldid=159673207 this old version, and it said "''] → ]'', and I did so. I found much edit history in ] and ], and only 4 edits in ] and only 2 edits in ], including deleted edits, so I thought that someone else had done the job of sorting out the history. If there are still old edits of the project page and its talk page scattered about (deleted and not deleted) among various names, please where are they? I have never been a fan of the Punisher fictional character and I do not know all its incarnations: sorry. See ]. ] 04:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' — Queensferry allready redirects to Queensferry (disambiguation). --] 08:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


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*''']''' → ''']''' —('']'') - Various similar artists' articles are titled by their staged name (see ], ]). Since this singer's stage name is her first name, this article should be renamed as '''Beyoncé'''. Also, in ], I noticed a fellow user had attempted to change an article's title (WWE wrestler ]), to his real name. It seems to be rejected. So, shouldn't '''this''' article be moved, to prevent this hypocrisy? ''<sup>(A debate might be held on the discussion page, please voice your opinion there.)</sup>'' --<font face="Eras Ultra ITC">'']''</font>/<font face="Old English Text MT">PenaltyKillah</font><sup>(]•])</sup> 19:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'') - The current article name is inaccurate, as the prize is not a Nobel Prize, even the article itself acknowledges this. --] 18:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:*Incomplete. ]<font color="darkgreen"><small>]</small></font> 15:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


==Closing a requested move==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Peter Senerchia is his real name. Tazz is just the ring name he uses with the WWE. —] 12:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Any ] editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read ] for information on how to close a move request. The ] details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
:*Incomplete (and not what naming is usually based on, as noted on the talk page). ]<font color="darkgreen"><small>]</small></font> 16:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


== Relisting a requested move ==
*'''] → ]</nowiki>''' - I've converted & replaced the JPEG image with a PNG image, in accordance with WP policy; but I could not change the name to reflect that its now a PNG image. ] 17:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
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:Just upload the new image at the correct name; you should undo the replace, as what you've done is replace valid JPEG code with invalid JPEG code (which happens to be PNG code, but that's irrelevant). — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">]</span></b> &#91;]&#93; &#91;]&#93; <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 06:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
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Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before ].{{efn|Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.}} Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of ]. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.


Relisting should be done using {{tlxs|RM relist}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature, ''and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures)''.
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— {{{3}}} —01:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)<b>]]</b>


When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the ]; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
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== Notes ==
* ] back to ]. The mover says the prior title is nonsensical, but "Commonwealth" is ambiguous, and the backing article is ] anyway (referenced in the article), so the pre-move title is correct. ] 11:49, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— More inclusive. ] 04:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
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== See also ==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Thai name "คณะราษฎร" is pronounced ''Kha-na Rat-sa-don'' —] 03:49, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
* ], which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions


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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Move to Python regius was made without proper polling at the ] and contradicts the ] section of ] —] 02:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC).
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— More prominent usage of "Heritage Plaza". This page should be moved, with a dab link to the ] building in Australia. —]-] 19:30, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— ], a notable skyscraper in ], exists. It is the more prominent use of "Heritage Plaza", and therefore this page should be moved. —]-] 19:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— see talk page —] 19:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— His more famous son also changed his name from Prince Louis of Battenberg to Louis Mountbatten, also became First Sea Lord, and also became Admiral of the Fleet. The name Louis of Battenberg typically refers to the father and Louis Mountbatten to the son, as the names under which each achieved his greatest fame. ] 18:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]'''
**I was misled by an entry on the ] disamb page that list a "John Penn (governor)", identifying him as a former governor of North Carolina (no such person, as confirmed by list of NC govs). So I moved John Penn (governor) to (proprietor) to make room for the non-existent person. Please move him back--lots of links to him there.--] 16:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
***No place to discuss this provided, but ANB confirms that the North Carolinian, who should be ], was never governor of NC. ] <small>]</small> 18:40, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— ''George Foreman Grill'' is a more well-known name for this appliance than ''Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine'', to the level that within this article, the subject is referred as a George Foreman Grill and the official product website refers to the products as the more George Foreman Grill than Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine:

: ''What makes George Foreman Grills so popular?''

: ''Salton continues to revolutionize the George Foreman Grill lineup.''

: ''Send us your George Foreman Grill recipes...''

Foreman himself did talk about "grill" but not "Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine."

Hence I think ''George Foreman Grill'' is correct on both most common name and self-identification grounds. —] di ] di ] 16:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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*('']'')—A little over a week ago, ]. The move went through. Since, a user has done so for these pages, citing the discussion from BFG. I oppose of this move, as I think that it should be a result of a disambig issue to add the prefix. There are no other pages with the term "Slammiversary". Therefore, I think the pages should be moved back to the old (without the prefix). —]<span style="background:black">]</span> ] 02:44, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— ] currently exists as a redirect to ] (with an "s"). Having the band Weird War disambiguated to ] is unnecessary since ] only exists as a redirect to something else. Any confusion would be easy to dispell with a ] (which both articles already have). —] 00:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Magazine that has changed its name —] 00:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— This text is rarely called "The Natya Shastra of Bharata" (the phrase yields only a few Google hits, most of which seem to be borrowing from Misplaced Pages). A comment on the talk page suggests that it is necessary to disambiguate it from other Natya Shastras (i.e. other dance treatises in Sanskrit). However, if and when articles on these other supposed other treatises are created, a disambiguation page or link can easily be created. —] 20:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The name should be changed into its English translation. I thought it was a hoax with that name which is not very well known in English speaking countries. A quick google search threw 3 million results for republika srpska and about sixty million for serb republic. —'''] '''<sup>]</sup> 15:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Google test - "livedistro" gets 57,700 hits on Google, "linux live cd" gets 495,000. Live CD is the most popular name, used by books such as "Live Linux CDs: Building and Customizing Bootables" by Christopher Negus and published by Prentice Hall. ZDNet, CNet and O'Reilly amongst others all use the name. LiveDistro is clearly the less popular of the two names. —] 15:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Use the English title as per ] —] 15:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Matches the book cover pictured on the page, as well as the first sentence of the article. —-- ] (]) 11:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

*Multimove:
**'''] → ]'''
***'''] → ]''' — disambig from the series
**'''] → ]'''
***'''] → ]''' — disambig from the series
**'''] → ]'''
***'''] → ]''' — disambig from the series
**('']'') — These articles is about video game series under the Tom Clancy brand, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six and Splinter Cell respectively, and should be named as such. Note also that the terms Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six and Slinter Cell can have other meanings then the video game series. --] <sup>]</sup> 08:03, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')—This move may be controversial because this article was created from ] and supplemented with ]; Both use the spelling ''Jan Jakob van Oosterzee''. However Google Book Search finds that "Jan Jakob van Oosterzee" is hardly used at all in literature. The most results are for ''JJ van Oosterzee'':
**4 Book search hits on "van Oosterzee" "Jan Jakob"
**109 Book search hits on "van Oosterzee" "Johannes Jacobus"
**113 Book search hits on "van Oosterzee" "Jan Jacob"
**639 Book search hits on "van Oosterzee" JJ
The full name "Jan Jacob van Oosterzee", though not as common as ""JJ van Oosterzee.", may be best. "J. J." is an obvious abbreviation and "JJ" is perhaps a mash-up of that. This is a Dutch name: ] and
] —] 03:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
:Relisting. 05:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

==], ]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— There are a number of different interpretations of what the abbreviation MSISDN stands for, hence it would be best to name the page MSISDN and describe the different interpretations there. —] 21:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' - Which is to be moved to ] --] 19:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' - Due to disambiguation page ] --] 19:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— It seems to me the most appropriate title, as it is the official name of the group and it is in line with other articles as ]. —] 18:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' - Essentially, the "t" should be Capitalized. It's a Book title. It appears to be a mere typo. Consistency requires "Their," not "their." --] 14:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The term "Ariosophy", although applied to the whole movement retrospectively, is supported much better by the literature. With the current version of the article-lead, previous concerns are taken into account.The move needs to be performed by an admin, because the page history of ] is to long. —] 11:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' (or some other disambiguator) —('']'')— to avoid confusion with ]. ] recommends ''"adding a parenthetical (bracketed) disambiguator to the page name: for instance when both spellings are often or easily confused."'' — <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span> 01:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

==], ]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Current article title is real name of a person who goes by a stage name. Also, possibly "M.I.A." should be distinguished from "MIA" by something like "(rapper)", rather than the use of full stops. —] 20:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— This is a move request whose outcome potentially affects a hundred or more articles, specifically almost all of those listed at ] and ], and likely many more. The reason for the move is that names of martial arts techniques should be treated like common nouns, and not like proper nouns. That is, they should not be capitalized. For a project guideline where this was decided, see ]. At the very least, the article should be moved to ''']'''. As a secondary issue, it should be considered whether or not the term should look more like the compound word that it is. Therefore, the article could also be moved to either ''']''' or ''']'''. Regarding these last two suggestions (but not the first), the manner in which these commonly appear in judo publications should govern. —] 19:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Unusual method for disambiguation —] 17:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Name becomes a bit strange in full English translation. Synaspismos is a more common name in English-language media. —] 12:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Official name of municipality has changed such that either name can be used instead of the double name. No consensus for which name to use was reached in a lengthy discussion (], but one of the names should be chosen. ] is currently a redirect. —] 11:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— more common term —] 01:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— It might be best to rename this article "Inclusive school" rather than inclusive classroom. It is very confusing when it is called inclusive classroom as many people have associated this with an integrated classroom. —] 23:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' — New Kansas Speedway Nextel Cup Race name and the page history needs to be moved there. —] <sup>(</sup>] <sup>|</sup> ]<sup>)</sup> 14:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The official name of the building is ''Former Kowloon-Canton Railway Clock Tower''. Another option would be to use ''Tsim Sha Tsui Clock Tower'' since the building is usually referred to with that name. —] <span style="color:#0a0">♫</span> 12:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The Scottish club is much much better known and more notable than the Welsh club of the same name. I believe the Scottish club should have the main namespace, although of course the dablink to the Welsh club should remain in place —] 08:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— to avoid confusion with ]. ] recommends ''"adding a parethical (bracketed) disambiguator to the page name: for instance when both spellings are often or easily confused."'' — <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span> 08:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— to avoid confusion with ]. ] recommends ''"adding a parethical (bracketed) disambiguator to the page name: for instance when both spellings are often or easily confused."'' — <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span> 08:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— See talk page I am asking this move because "Tupac" should be redirected to ] per most common names. See the example of ] which takes you to ] instead of ]. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 06:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

==], ]==

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— See talk page —] 23:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— See talk page. —] 23:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— See talk page —] 22:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— This page was moved in May 2007 in the reverse direction, but I believe the majority english usage includes the accents (noting the subject is canadian). —] 17:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— As stated on the article, Piazza is a JDM name for the car, whereas the Impulse is the US import name —] 16:20, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Move back to original, Google news archive shows no hits for "Day care sex abuse hysteria", only for "Day care sexual abuse hysteria" the correct term. It was changed based on one vote, to be grammatically correct, despite the grammatically correct term not being used in the press. see —] 06:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— To be in line with "Education in Denver" and other wikified categories —] 06:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— all the links to "The Terminator" intend the film —] 05:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'') - In real life, that's how people call it, both opposers and supporters (Google returns ''six times'' more results to the phrase War on Terror than to the phrase War on Terrorism). This is how George W. Bush, the leader of the campaign, called it. Whether it's a good name or bad name for the war, whether it's a real war or not, and whether it's a good war or not should not matter when it comes to the title. "War on Terrorism" is just an invented name, and not a good one at that, because it's not neutral. ] 04:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

*]→]—('']'')— WE-chem made a related move of ] to ]. Manganese dioxide is a more common name. I had posted a notice on the relevant talk page about this proposal and got no feedback (its kind of a specialized topic).--] 00:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

==], ]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— True flies are Brachycera. Diptera includes also mosquitos, midges, craneflies etc. The present setup, result of a merger, will link users coming from mosquito, midge etc articles to a page that claims that these insects are flies, which is incorrect. —] 21:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
**To many people's colloquial usage except ], any small flying insect is a fly. ] 21:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'') The most widely used version of his name that he himself used when in this country. ] 17:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— His real name —] ]] 16:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Because there is no English equivalent then per naming conventions an official name has to be used. —''']<sup>]</sup>''' 19:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:*Closing the original request as no consensus; relisting as a request to move to ''']''' —('']'')—. ]<font color="darkgreen"><small>]</small></font> 09:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— the lake is the original and most common usage of the term —] 02:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The springbok is almost never known as the "springbok antelope": it is simply the springbok. The animal is the primary meaning, the other usages listed at ] being named after it. So, I think this article should be at ], and the page currently there moved to ]. —] 01:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— IBM long ago changed the name of this product line. Other articles already reflect this, such as ]. See ] for discussion. —]·] 00:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Backlog==
''Move dated sections here after five days have passed.''

*'''] → ] or ?]]''' —('']'')— Avoid confusion as there has been no single central London railway station. Lists all railway station in Central London. —] 10:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Better title, since there was never really a largescale formal "alliance" —]]] 08:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— more common term —] 04:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

*''']''' → ''']''' - ('']'')- There is nothing known to have been called the "Huot light machine gun", but there was an experimental Canadian weapon called the "Huot Automatic Rifle." A factual and well-documented article should be placed there. I've added to this list per the request on the moving tag. The article is new, and obscure enough that I expect little discussion for either keeping it where it is or moving it elsewhere.] 22:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The previous title is not the correct name of the website it refers to. In fact, it is ambiguous as it may reference to the site www.hitzradio.com (which existed long before the website associated with this article) instead. —] 19:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Per ]. The article was recently moved from "3d..." (the unit's official designation) to "3rd..." without discussion. —] 17:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Most common name in English-language sources, and name used by Mr. Maura himself —] 19:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)(''relisted to generate more response-]&nbsp;</sup>]] 15:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)'')

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The common usage in English is Sparta Prague, it even states this in the article. See English language media such as BBC and ESPN —]<sup>]</sup> 12:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)(''relisted to generate more response-]&nbsp;</sup>]] 15:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)'')

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— According to the current ''de facto'' naming convention about Chiles regions the real Spanish name is used without the numbers. —] | ] 14:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' - ('']'')— Leo Prime is a simple toy with nothing to prove he is the character. Where as official and canon comics prove the character in America is named LioConvoy. --] 11:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Misplaced Pages. For information on retitling files, categories, and other items, see § When not to use this page.

Before moving a page or requesting a move, please review the article titling policy and the guidelines on primary topics.

Any autoconfirmed user can move a page using the "Move" option in the editing toolbar; see how to move a page for more information. If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. In such cases, see § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
  • Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are typically processed after seven days. If consensus supports the move at or after this time, a reviewer will perform it. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved." When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time, or closed as "no consensus". See Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Misplaced Pages:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

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Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

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Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical moves

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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.
  • If this is your first article and you want your draft article moved to the mainspace, please submit it for review at Articles for creation, by adding the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft or user sandbox page instead of listing it here.
  • Because you are autoconfirmed, you can move most pages yourself. Do not request technical assistance on this page if you can do it yourself.
  • If you need help determining whether it's okay to move the page to a different title, then please follow the instructions at the top of Misplaced Pages:Requested moves.
  • To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason: 
    {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
  • If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
  • If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

Contested technical requests

Don't WP:ENGVAR and MOS:RETAIN apply? Minor spelling variations are not really different names. Note that Gray hawk does not use the IOC's spelling. See prior discussions at Talk:Gray hawk. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
It's been at its current title for almost two years which IMO is a bit late to revert a previously undiscussed WP:BOLDMOVE. Unsure a case for globalization should be made here given the article currently only covers US amusement part incidents and Incidents at European amusement parks already exists in a much more advanced state. Note there is a previous version of the article that had much more thorough coverage of US incidents here before it was gutted in 2022; perhaps that could be fixed up.Further discussion would probably help here. RachelTensions (talk) 04:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
@Tobiasi0 your move request has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion by clicking the "discuss" link next to your request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Shawnbrescia Search shows that current name is also commonly used. Full RM might be needed ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Where are you seeing H. alba used? The only case I can find is BioLib, which changed the page after the Misplaced Pages page for H. alba was created. Also, even if H. alba is used by secondary sources, the rules of scientific nomenclature forbid renaming of species unless it is done in a peer-reviewed journal, which I can find no evidence of. Shawnbrescia (talk) 15:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Better do a full RM ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 05:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@Bunnypranav: would you be willing to move the page first, then if you are still concerned about sourcing, do an RM from albus back to alba? My strong concerns about potential WP:circular reporting (as implied in Shawnbrescia's reply to you) compel me to ask for this deviation from standard procedure. The sources in the article itself suggest alba is WP:OR: the ICZN source cited says nothing about H. albus itself. My own searches on Google Scholar found the one source cited, Ávalos-Hernández 2009, for albus but absolutely nothing for alba. Thank you, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 08:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Your arguments and the nom is fine, but I'm still not that confident about the move. Feel free to move it to the above discussion if you think another PM can take care of it. Or just simply start an RM, that will have comments from many more editors about the confusion in sources. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
In that case, I ask a pagemover please move to albus before opening a RM discussion back to alba if pagemover still has concerns about sourcing. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@OrdinaryScarlett Quick search shows that sources are using the long name as well. Full RM might be needed to due no clear common name. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@DareshMohan There seems to be no primary between the two films. @Wbm1058: recently moved an article away from this title. So this is not uncontroversial, full RM is required ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Khanh Nguyen There is not primary topic yet per Pageviews, the dab page lists two place with the same name and district suffix. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Phong Điền district, Thừa Thiên Huế has been redirected to Phong Điền (town). Currently, this location no longer carries the district suffix. Khanh Nguyen (talk) 17:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Mastertales Primary topic grabs are not uncontroversial. Feel free to start a requested-move discussion by clicking the "discuss" link next to your request. C F A 21:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Mvcg66b3r You yourself just filed the AfD on WNYT (internet radio) three minutes before requesting the move here. I suggest to wait until the AfD is closed before we start moving the pages around. cyberdog958 05:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@Tstcikhthys1 I am contesting all of these "alternate" to "alternative" moves, as they are not uncontroversial and should go through a full move discussion to determine the COMMONNAME of their subjects. Toadspike 13:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
See for instance the third footnote of Alternate history, which reads Brave New Words: The Oxford Dictionary of Science Fiction (Oxford University Press, 2007) notes the preferred usage is "Alternate History", which was coined in 1954; "Alternative History" was first used in 1977, pp. 4–5. This directly contradicts the claim that British sources prefer "alternative". Toadspike 13:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages has dealt with this terminology issue in the past. At Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albums there have been several flips over the years about what to call an extra album cover used in other countries and the like. Sometimes it was "Alternate cover" but it is currently "Alternative cover" (see Template:Infobox album). The earliest such discussion I can find was way back in 2009 at Template talk:Infobox album/Archive 5#Mistake, and note the dictionary definitions like those brought up by the requester here. So no matter how messy they may be, these requests have some precedents. All will be controversial, regardless. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

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The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:

  • there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
  • someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.

Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.

Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.

Requesting a single page move

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To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code: 

{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}

Replace New name with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 4 January 2025" and sign the post for you.

There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:

A request that this page title be changed is under discussion. Please do not move this page until the discussion is closed.

Unlike other request processes on Misplaced Pages, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.

WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.

Single page move on a different talk page

Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code: 

{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}

The |1= unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1= and |new1= parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.

Requesting multiple page moves

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A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code: 

{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1 (this parameter can be omitted for discussions hosted on a page that is proposed to be moved)
| new1     = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2     = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3     = New title for page 3
| reason   = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
See also: Template:Requested move/extended blank

For example, to propose moving the articles Misplaced Pages and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Misplaced Pages with current1 set to Misplaced Pages and current2 set to Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Misplaced Pages). Do not sign the request with ~~~~, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.

For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1 for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1= to indicate the first article to be moved.

Request all associated moves explicitly

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Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:

If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:

is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.

If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).

Template usage examples and notes
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{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why}}
links talk edit 		Requested move 4 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Misplaced Pages:Requested moves be renamed and moved to New.
This proposal is for a cross-namespace move from Misplaced Pages to (Main/Article) namespace.

A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil.

Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Misplaced Pages:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is given.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}}
 Requested move 4 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Misplaced Pages:Requested moves be renamed and moved somewhere else, with the name being decided below.

A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil.

Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log

Misplaced Pages:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is not known.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why|talk=yes}}
 Requested move 4 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Misplaced Pages:Requested moves be renamed and moved to New.
This proposal is for a cross-namespace move from Misplaced Pages to (Main/Article) namespace.

A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil.

Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Misplaced Pages:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2025‎ (UTC)

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this subsection with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Misplaced Pages's policy on article titles.
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This template adds subsections for survey and discussion.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:
Click the "New Section" tab on the talk page and leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template by default automatically creates the heading.

{{subst:Requested move|new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}}
 Requested move 4 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.

A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil.

Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

– why Example (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted.
Be sure to use the subst: and place this tag at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
Add additional related move requests in pairs (|current3= and |new3=, |current4= and |new4=, etc.).

{{subst:Requested move|new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}}
 Requested move 4 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved somewhere else, with the names being decided below.

A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil.

Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log

– why Example (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


Commenting on a requested move

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All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:

  • When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
  • Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding ~~~~ to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets.
  • The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
  • Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.

When participating, please consider the following:

  • Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Misplaced Pages:Article titles.
  • Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
  • The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
  • Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
  • Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.
  • Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "• Support Oppose".

Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.

Closing a requested move

Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.

Relisting a requested move

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Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing. Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.

Notes

  1. A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.
  2. Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.

Current discussions

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This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed.
To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 106 discussions have been relisted.

January 4, 2025

  • (Discuss) – Sundar C → Sundar C. – He is credited as Sundar.C in all of his films . Don't feel the need to include all of his films, though most are on YouTube. The English standard equivalent of putting a dot before the C is putting one afterwards. For, some reason Tamil names put the dot before although this is unconventional to American/Britsh English grammar rules. Indian media tends to avoid putting the dot even for names with dots. See: and . At the very least, credited as Sundar C. should be mentioned in the lead. DareshMohan (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

January 3, 2025

  • (Discuss) – Damdi Masjid → Damri Masjid – Damri Masjid is currently redirected to Toli Masjid, which is not referred to as the Damri Masjid in any scholarly sources. It was historically also known as the Damri Masjid (as noted by this), but in every piece of literature (academic sources, listing of monuments, newspapers, etc.) it is referred to as the Toli Masjid, and so is the case with all the sources in the article. The only source mentioning the name "Damri Masjid" also calls it Toli Masjid primarily, noting that Damri Masjid is a historical name for the mosque. On the other hand, Damdi Masjid is spelt Damri in all scholarly sources (2 of them in the refs on the article; many more passing mentions) and listings of historical monuments (ASI's list of monuments of national importance). Any confusion can easily be solved with distinguishing templates AmateurHi$torian (talk) 17:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Cabinet of Germany → Federal Government of Germany – "Federal Government of Germany" is the natural, precise, concise and above all consistent title. On the other hand, "Cabinet of Germany" is not commonly recognizable and not a title that readers are likely to look or search for if they wanted to find the German government. Furthermore, the current title is colloquial and legally (see Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany, sixth section, "VI. The Federal Government") and technically incorrect. The title also differs from all other search engine results on this topic and the official website itself.

References

  1. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Federal+Government+of+Germany%2CCabinet+of+Germany&year_start=1840&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=false#
  2. https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Cabinet%7CGovernment
  3. https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en
— Essixt (talk) 12:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. —CX Zoom 16:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Saskatchewan Progress Party → Saskatchewan Liberal Party – While the current name of the party is the Progress Party, it is not the most notable name this party had. Under its current name, the party has never had a single MLA and finished last in only election (2024) it ever ran in under its current name. A good precedent would be the Alberta Social Credit Party, its current name is the Pro-Life Alberta Political Association, but it is still known by its older, historic, more relevant name. Like the Alberta Socreds, the Saskatchewan Liberals were a prominent party under its historic name. They elected premiers and either led the government or led the opposition. An alternative proposal would be to WP:SPLIT the article into two articles: one for the Saskatchewan Liberal Party and one for the Saskatchewan Progress Party. This would be similar to how there are separate articles for the Yukon Progressive Conservative Party and the Yukon Party. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 21:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Me-123567-Me (talk) 17:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

January 2, 2025

  • (Discuss) – Andrew Coffey → Andrew Coffey (football) – In addition to the move proposed here, I believe that a disambiguation page should be created out of the current primary title. There does not appear to be a primary topic in this situation -- the two articles for people with this name are stubs that fail to prove that one is more significant than the other, while the other Andrew Coffey noted in the hatnote, the hazing victim, only has an article about his death since that's the only significant coverage of him. The Coffey hazing case has the most information available I can find in a search, but given that he is not notable enough for a standalone biographical article per WP:BIO1E, combined with the fact that there is no evidence that one of the other two Andrew Coffeys is more likely as a primary search term than the other, I believe this page should be moved to the proposed title, with the main Andrew Coffey article being a disambiguation page between the three articles. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Yotta Savings → Yotta – The company, and recent articles about it, uses the name "Yotta" and not "Yotta Savings". The term "savings" does not appear on the company's terms and conditions page, although its legal name "Yotta Technologies" does. The article "Yotta" on Misplaced Pages is a redirect to Metric prefix#List of SI prefixes, and while yotta is an SI prefix, it is a rarely used one for a very large number; we can refer to it in a hatnote from a retitled Yotta page about the fintech company. Two US-based search engines, when queried for yotta, return primarily pages about the fintech company, not the metric prefix. White 720 (talk) 18:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Aphilodontidae → Aphilodontinae – I request this move to reflect the renaming of this group of centipedes, which has been demoted from the family Aphilodontidae to the subfamily Aphilodontinae, as I explain in this Misplaced Pages article. Authorities have regarded Aphilodontidae as an invalid name for more than a decade now (since 2014). The subfamily name Aphilodontinae has been used instead by the three leading scholarly articles on the subject (published in 2019 and 2022 and cited in the Misplaced Pages article). See WP:NAMECHANGES on "Article titles." I think there might be some controversy only because I see an editor created a Redirect page for "Aphilodontinae" in 2021 redirecting users to "Aphilodontidae" instead. It would make more sense to redirect users in the opposite direction, from the invalid name to the one now in active use. HCUPa (talk) 16:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Use of Sarum → Sarum Missal – Or Sarum Rite – While the current title has considerable prevalence, it is no common name and its prevalence is no greater than the alternatives – both of which provide considerablly greater descriptive utility, outlining the subject as a missal or rite (and a more easily recognisable ecclesiastical category of subject), rather than merely a "use of", which is a descriptively unhelpful phrase. A-Z encyclopedias would opt to format a title such as this as "Sarum, Use of" to ensure the page listing in the "S"s rather than the "U"s. While this doesn't apply here, the same principle of having the more important key word up front does still benefit drop down menu searches and the like, which, combined with the historically greater prevalence of "Sarum Missal" name format simply reinforces the merit of the move. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Paris Saint-Germain Academy → Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy – A November 2024 RM failed, but it's unclear on what grounds. The current title, "Paris Saint-Germain Academy", refers to a program run by PSG for children across the world, giving them an opportunity to do training sessions under the PSG name and to improve on their game. It refers to this, with an example being the "France" academy here. These "schools" run by this "PSG Academy" program are NOT the actual youth academy this article is referring to. This article refers to the players that are in what is called in French the centre de formation, and by extension, those in the préformation. The article is referring to the players actually in PSG's youth system that ultimately goes up to the club's first team. And this youth system is NOT known by the name "Paris Saint-Germain Academy", both in sourcing and especially not by the club itself. The club calls its youth academy the centre de formation here, which it itself translates to "Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy" on the same page in English. Paul Vaurie (talk) 09:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Gray Television → Gray Media – Per press release issued on December 30, 2024, the Board of Directors approved a formal name change from "Gray Television" to "Gray Media." A page called Gray Media exists, but currently redirects to Gray Television. The redirect should be deleted, the page Gray Television should be moved to Gray Media, and Gray Television should redirect to Gray Media, accordingly. But, this is a bit above my skill set. TheMediaHistorian (talk) 07:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mvcg66b3r (talk) 06:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

January 1, 2025

  • (Discuss) – History of the Jews in the United States → Jewish history in the United States – I would like to request this move as I believe the target article title is more natural and succinct. In being titled “Jewish history in the United States”, my proposed title also avoids simply referring to “the Jews”, which is not inaccurate but doesn’t reflect the history of American Jews rather than Jews in general being the primary focus of this article (although see the paragraph below). I did think about American Jewish history (currently a redirect) as an article title, but I prefer “Jewish history in the United States” as it seems to have a wider scope, for example including within scope the history of Jews in the territory of the US before American independence. That said, as I have written above, the main focus of this article is on American Jews. I’m conscious there are many other articles on Misplaced Pages titled “History of the Jews in X”. I similarly think these would generally be better titled as “Jewish history in X” for the same reasons of naturalness, succinctness and precision. Although I haven’t made this a multi-page move due to the scale of making such a wide-ranging change. I’d welcome more experienced editors’ views about this. I’d suggest, if this move request is not successful, that Jewish history in the United States be created as a redirect to this page. As it’s quite a natural search term. Finally, I would note my proposed title aligns with the main article on Jewish history. Rafts of Calm (talk) 19:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan attack → Kuwait Peace Camp airstrike – The current title is not great: it's not particularly natural, precise or descriptive, but is merely a vague and fairly non-descript geographical handwave. The more natural titling surrounding the event in question has tended to revolve around the nomenclature of "Rafah tent ..." or "Rafah tent camp ..." (with attack/massacre as the operative descriptor) but these options equally lack precision (given there have been numerous tent camp attacks/massacres in Rafah). And yet "Tel al-Sultan" ironically isn't that much of an improvement, since Tel al-Sultan is equally not a specific city block or even neighborhood, but a substantial urban area within Rafah, and the attack also did not even really take place in Tel al-Sultan, but at a temporary tent camp on a previously deserted patch of land to the northeast of some UN warehouses that were themselves located to the northeast of Tel al-Sultan, on the other side of a peripheral ring road. The current title also does not mention either the key words "tent" or "camp" and is entirely obscure, non-descript and wholly unnatural as a search term. By contrast, the "Kuwait Peace Camp" is the precise location of the attack, as first attested by the BBC on 27 May based on the video footage, and confirmed by the Guardian and CNN on 29 May, and used as the principle identifier by Amnesty by 27 August. So this name represents the precise location of the attack and as a bonus contains the keyword "camp", so further specifies the nature of the event. And then "airstrike", because it was an airstrike, so that's precise, and the news coverage largely uses the term "strike". Meanwhile, the use of "attack" in the context is somewhat vague and could be confused with a ground assault, of which there have since been many in the area. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:26, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Use of child suicide bombers by Palestinian militant groups → Suicide bombing by minors in the Second Intifada – This page can readily be moved to a much more precise and specific title. The current title is somewhat vague and broad in scope when the topic itself is quite narrow and discrete. The topic in question is suicide bombing by minors in the Second Intifada. "Minors" is more useful here than "child", as it pertains to the internationally defined (and most common) age of legal adulthood as being at 18, and the topic here is bombings by 16 and 17 year olds, so shortly below this legal threshold. The qualitative terminology of "children" or "childhood" is vaguer and conjures up the sense of individuals in their early teens or younger just as readily as it does the sense of those in their late teens but prior to legal maturity. The "Second Intifada" is the very precise and discrete time period in question, the when of the topic and a delineation that should obviously be mentioned in the lead (as part of the WP:NCWWW of the topic). This is very explicitly not a general topic page or broad concept article, but one very specifically linked to said time period. The mention that the subject involves "Palestinian militant groups" is lengthy and unnecessary. This element is naturally outlined as part of the WP:SCOPE in the first sentence of the page, but is in any case implied by the context of the "Second Intifada", which makes it clear that the broader topic is the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, where such tactics in the relevant period were the preserve of only side. This makes the specific mention of this element of the subject fairly redundant and unnecessary in the title. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

December 31, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Anthroponymy/Standards → Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Anthroponomy/Style advice – To be consistent with the rest of the style-advice WP:PROJPAGE essays of topical wikiprojects. There may be a few other stragglers, but they should move to the same consistent naming pattern as well. PS: This isn't even an appropriate use of standard, since this page and what it outlines don't qualify under any definition applicable here. At most, this is page reflects the collective (and generally pretty sound but not authoritative) opinions of a small number of topic-devoted editors, and it needs careful review to make sure it actually complies with our WP:P&G that cover style and page-title matters (which most style PROJPAGEs do not until subjected to considerable revision).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:20, 23 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Thalassodrominae → Thalassodromidae – Basically undoing the previous move above, since supporters of the denomination Thalassodrominae have rejected its use in favor of the denomination Thalassodromidae in order to have consistency with other opposing studies that use Thalassodromidae. Here is said study, by Pêgas and colleagues in 2023. Subsequent studies that follow a tapejaromorph classification for this group, which would traditionally mean the use of Thalassodrominae, have also employed the denomination Thalassodromidae as well. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 19:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Aaron Livesy → Aaron Dingle – I am starting this discussion due to the recent copy-paste moves. Having changed his name in 2016, I think the character's common name is now Dingle, having been credited with it for over 8 years and being more known by it due to his connection with the Dingle family. I thought this could use a fresh discussion as the last one was 3 years ago and having a finalised decision could stop copy/paste moves. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 12:46, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

December 30, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Moldova and the Russo-Ukrainian War → Russian hybrid warfare against Moldova – This article is a compilation of actions that Russia has done to undermine and destabilize Moldova in the last years. They have happened during the Russo-Ukrainian War, but are part of a single coordinated effort and plan. We can rename the article so it covers this more precise and encyclopedic topic. We have a lot of sources describing this hybrid warfare that Russia is doing against Moldova. Here are some big names: the Institute for the Study of War ("The full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine is, in fact, supporting Russian hybrid warfare efforts in former Soviet states, particularly Moldova and Georgia"), the European Parliament ("vehemently condemns Russia's escalating malicious activities, interference and hybrid operations ahead of Moldovans going to the polls"), Politico citing Moldova's chief of police ("Moldova is facing a phenomenon of voter bribery, combined with hybrid warfare and disinformation, the likes of which our country has never seen before,"), Euronews ("the Kremlin has enacted elements of its hybrid war playbook in both states "), NATO itself ("In Moldova, Russia’s hybrid warfare has been aimed at toppling the country’s pro-EU government"). This hybrid warfare scheme would have involved many actions and events that are either already in the article or would have been had the article been written later. This article, currently with a vague and open scope, is the best recipient for this topic. Here are sources mentioning these actions as hybrid warfare: Russian-paid protests in Moldova (: "Russia has dedicated considerable resources to its hybrid war. For instance, protestors are routinely paid to participate in anti-government protests.", page 6; : "It later emerged that protesters had been paid by Kremlin proxies to attend." in an article about Russian hybrid warfare in Moldova), continuous airspace violations and falling of drones and missiles (: "The overall internal security situation remains stable, but fragile due to regular incidents such as bomb hoaxes and missiles or missile debris falling on Moldovan territory. in a section regarding hybrid warfare, page 258), Transnistria's role in this effort (: "Chisinau has been the victim of a complex hybrid action carried out by the Kremlin on multiple levels. In this respect, the Transnistria region has long been used by Russia as a bargaining chip in its efforts to influence Republic of Moldova."), rigging of elections and vote-buying (: "Indeed, Moldova's election season was marred by massive Russian interference in both campaigns. This meddling included cyberattacks, planned espionage at diaspora polling stations, and the outright buying of votes."; : "Recent votes in the former Soviet states of Georgia and Moldova have been dogged by interference from Russian-backed elements.", "There is a suggestion that these efforts are part of Russia’s multifaceted hybrid warfare."), an alleged coup in February 2023 (: "The timely leak of classified information about Russia's attempts to organize a coup in Chisinau allowed the government to react quickly", page 49, see source's title) and energy blackmail and the energy crisis of 2022 and 2023 (same source and page as before: "Thanks to substantial financial aid from the EU, Moldova was able to survive Russia’s energy blackmail in 2022 and even break Gazprom's monopoly."). This source summarizes everything nicely: Moldova's Response to Hybrid Attacks: A Learning-by-doing Strategy, page 2, "In addition to the potential risks coming from Transnistria, Moldova has witnessed a series of new challenges over the past year and a half, ranging from false bomb alerts, cyber-attacks, and explosions in Transnistria to energy blackmail, paid protests, and Kremlin proxies operating in the autonomous region of Gagauzia. This is all alongside continuous disinformation campaigns.". Note that I've only looked at English-language sources, and several of these sources are written by Moldovans themselves. Here are some random academic sources that I didn't use above . I think no doubt remains that sources verify that Russia is waging hybrid warfare against Moldova. Do you agree that this article should cover this topic? Super Ψ Dro 12:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

December 29, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Archie (TV serial) → Archie (miniseries) – This is a miniseries and is classified as such on IMDb. Another editor recently changed the parenthetical content of the page's title to "TV serial". This is not a serial. It's 4 episodes. Cannon, executive producer, refers to it as a miniseries in promo interviews, as do critics for the Boston Herald and Screen Rant for example. Yours6700 (talk) 00:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Contemporary R&B → R&B (contemporary) – I understand that right now there is a discussion going on about the R&B redirect but I think there was no need for that in the slightest. The person's motive was due to it being iritating when people redirect to Rhythm and blues instead of R&B and how Noone types out "Contemporary R&B", I think the thing to do then would instead of messing with the R&B redirect and the thousands of links there, just move this to R&B (contemporary), it already redirects there and this would solve that issue. I noticed they were blocked but the discussion continued with an admin saying they would disambiguate so im still gonna make this request as I see no need to do that.173.225.243.191 (talk) 00:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

December 28, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Gascon dialect → Gascon (language variety) – The precise classifcation of Gascon is controversial. While most scholars consider it to be a dialect of Occitan, Posner and Sala note that it is less comprehensible than Catalan (which is typically classified separately from Occitan) to other southern Occitan speakers. Moreover, Gascon has a standardized variety, Aranese, with official status in the Val d'Aran region of Catalonia, which differs from the literary standard of Occitan. Kristol 2023 asserts that Gascon was "already considered a specific language in the Middle Ages," and Carles and Glessgen 2024 refer to Occitan and Gascon as "two languages." As the terms "language" and "dialect" are ambiguous and somewhat subjective, linguists tend to circumvent extralinguistic polemics by using the term "language variety" to refer to a linguistic system. By characterizing Gascon as a "dialect," the current title appears to clash with Misplaced Pages's policy of neutrality by favouring a traditional but contested view. The term "language variety" would be a more useful characterization, as it would avoid the use of the ambiguous term "dialect," which tends to evoke social, historical, and political considerations rather than strictly linguistic ones. Conocephalus (talk) 15:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. cyberdog958 18:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:14, 18 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – FC Cetatea Suceava → CSM Cetatea Suceava – – After the dissolution of ACS Foresta Suceava in the summer of 2024, the Municipality of Suceava and the most important businessmen from Suceava County re-founded the local club as CSM Cetatea 1932 Suceava (full name). The new entity is considered now as the team of the city and the successor of the local football history.frf-ajf profile, facebook profile, radiotio.ro/foundation, history, local businessman, staff, municipality involvment, continuity. Suceava had only one important football team at one time, during the years, and at this moment the history of local football is very divided on wikipedia. Th football history of Suceava started with Cetatea Suceava in 1932, then in the 1950s and 1960s the team changed its name several times, then was re-founded as a football section of CSM Suceava, multi-sport club, where it was active until 1997, when Foresta Fălticeni, club owned by Eugen Huțu moved to Suceava and was renamed as Foresta Suceava. After 2004, the local club was re-founded as FC Cetatea Suceava (this page) and worked until 2010 when whitdrew from the league. In 2010, Rapid CFR (which was a team from the suburbs) was taking over by the Municipality of Suceava and renamed as ACS Foresta Suceava, the team was dissolved in 2024. Due to this history, I proposed only 3 main pages: 1. CSM Cetatea Suceava (CSM Suceava + FC Cetatea Suceava + Cetatea 1932, one article, keeping the foundation years and the corresponding denomination(s) 2. Foresta Fălticeni remain the same, team originally based in Fălticeni 3. ACS Foresta Suceava, remain the same, team that was known for almost its entire history as Rapid CFR Suceava, another team moved and renamed. The second step will be a merge between Cetatea Suceava (reunited page) and CSM Suceava, but I'll keep the entire history on this page, because Cetatea was the original team of Suceava, CSM was born by the took over of Cetatea (named Chimia at that time), by CSM Suceava multi-sport club. Rhinen (talk) 17:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Oloye Akin Alabi → ? – The subject, Akinola Alabi, is more commonly known by his full name rather than 'Oloye Akin Alabi.' 'Oloye' is an honorific title often used in Yoruba culture to signify a distinguished position or title. See it is not the name by which the subject is primarily recognized in most public and professional contexts. In major news outlets, professional profiles, and official documents, the full name 'Akinola Alabi' is predominantly used. For example, in various media reports and his official biography, his full name is consistently referred to, and it is the name most widely recognized in connection with his career and public service. The use of the full name also aligns with modern naming conventions and ensures clarity for readers seeking accurate information. A quick google search would show that all major publications on him dosent reflect oloye, but rather, his full name Cameremote (talk) 16:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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  • (Discuss) – HomeKit → Apple Home – Proposing page be renamed Apple Home to reflect the name of the platform, whereas the current name (HomeKit) is one of two supported software frameworks that work inside the platform. The intro sentence should also be rewritten to something like "Apple Home is a smart home platform that uses the HomeKit and Matter software frameworks. Shivertimbers433 (talk) 02:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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  • (Discuss) – 1925 Tri-State tornado → Great Tri-State Tornado – This is one of very few, if not the only, tornado where the name itself disambiguates it from others, so let's get rid of the year before it's 100th. Most sources don't use the year as the tornado's title - it's either Tri-State, or Great Tri-State. I'm going to let both be options favoring Great Tri-State so there's less room for ambiguation with other tri-state area tornadoes. Departure– (talk) 21:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Mufti Abdul Razzaq → Abdul Razzaq (scholar) – Previous attempts to rename this article were reverted on the grounds that it complies with Misplaced Pages's CommonName policy. However, based on my understanding, the title does not align with the policy's requirements. "Mufti" is an honorific title, and its inclusion in a CommonName is justified only when it is widely recognized and has become a fundamental part of the subject's identity, as in the cases of Mufti Mehmood or Maulana Azad. A comprehensive review indicates that the subject is not widely discussed in reliable sources, either in English or their native language, and lacks sufficient secondary sources. How, then, was the determination made that this is a CommonName? Coverage is limited, primarily consisting of breaking news after the subject’s death, with the majority of sources being relatively non-mainstream. While it is common for media to use titles in describing individuals, such usage does not necessarily equate to a CommonName under Misplaced Pages's criteria. –𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 14:29, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Typhoon Ewiniar (2006) → Typhoon Ewiniar – Out of the three storms (2024, 2000, and 2006, this is the most powerful. (I'm going to exclude 2000, since it doesn't have a page). 2006 has more deaths, damages, and injuries than the 2024 version. The 2006 version affected five countries, while the 2024 version affected two countries. Since the 2006 version has more deaths, damages, injuries, and countries affected, it therefore has more coverage and popularity (and also historical impact). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 00:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Matthew Shepard → Murder of Matthew Shepard – Per WP:DEATHS and WP:ONEEVENT. This is going to be controversial but still it should be done. He has no notability besides his murder. He became famous because he died and before that he was a complete unknown. People might say he has been notable in other things but that is only a consequence of being murdered. People should leave their emotional bias behind and look at the facts. Another option is to split an article called "Murder of Matthew Shepard” about the death itself while the notability and legacy will remain in the main article. Theparties (talk) 08:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Lingayatism → Lingayat Sect – There were prior attempts to move the page, but not with proper citations and references and hence were rejected. I propose the name change of Page to "Lingayat Sect" from "Lingayatism" once again. Lingayat is a sect not a religion. Every source mentions it as a sect and a community. Thank You!

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PerspicazHistorian (talk) 12:49, 14 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Bærum mosque shooting → 2019 Bærum murder and mosque shooting – Pursuant to the discussion above, which no one responded to: I have been wanting to improve this article for two years, since it is entirely stuck in the breaking news aftermath of when it happened instead of the later coverage, but I am frustrated by its scope, which makes it difficult to reflect what non-breaking news sources cover about this case. While all of the breaking coverage focuses on the mosque shooting, later coverage tends to focus both on Ihle-Hansen's murder (see the books, the docuseries, later news coverage) with about equal weight to the mosque attack. This is a problem because there was a separate motive for the killing of his sister, the background for what lead up to this event heavily involves her, and the more severe sentence Manshaus received was for murdering Ihle-Hansen, not for the failed mosque shooting. This is very close to what the Norwegian wikipedia titles its article on this case. I would title it closer to what the books and documentaries do, but they are usually titled after Manshaus's name. I am open to other suggestions as I know this isn't perfect but I do feel that any title for this article needs to not strictly focus it on the mosque event. The year is optional, but according to WP:NCE if an event is not broadly known it should include the year. This event is not widely known outside of Norway, but if people feel otherwise it could be titled Bærum murder and mosque shooting (edit: a better target would be 2019 Bærum murder and mosque attack, as Cameron suggests) PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – 2024 Al-Mustariha massacre → 2024 Turkish airstrikes in Syria – Consistency. This article should be named like 2024 Homs airstrikes or April 2017 Turkish airstrikes in Syria and Iraq. Because these air strikes are organised for enemy sides of the perpetrator's and some civillians killed in those air strikes. This title means that Turkey only carries out air strike to massacre innocent civilians. However, this airstrike is only one of 191 airstrikes against the SDF-YPG, therefore we cannot seperate this air strike from other 190 air strikes. All of them are carried out within 2024. The content also mentions the death toll from other airstrikes. Also these airstrikes belongs to Hasakah province, Raqqa province and rural Aleppo. This title mentions 11 civilians in Raqqa province but how about other 6 civillian deaths in Hasakah province? If you look at death toll, military personnels also killed besides civillians and this means that Turkish Air Force didn't target civillians especially. Also it's ridiculous to target little amount of civillians in a village. If Turkish Air Force want to kill civillians, bombing big city centers is more efficient way like Israel did in Gaza Strip. Therefore that title is biased and we cannot named this event as a massacre just for killed civillians because more military personnels killed in these air strikes. Seondly, wikipedia there's a village named Mustariha and it's located at Idlib. However news says it's a village in the suburbs of Ain Issa. I cannot find location of the village. It's very interesting. All in all, this article should be moved to "2024 Turkish airstrikes in Syria" However we can use northern Syria but I'm not sure about geographic naming. Note: If the title I propose is appropriate, the content should be revised accordingly, because it gives the impression that the attack was made specifically for this village and targeted especially civillians in this village.--Sabri76' 17:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Template:NF → Template:NFLD – Most Canadian provinces have just one flag template named with the province's two-letter postal abbreviation as the template name; this one is a special case because the province's name was changed from just "Newfoundland" to Newfoundland and Labrador in 2001, necessitating separate "NF" and "NL" templates because the province name next to the (same) flag needs to be two different things based on whether it's a pre-2001 or post-2001 context.
    However, because the Spanish Misplaced Pages uses the template name "NF" as its basic "formatting the vital statistics of people on biographical articles" (birth year, death year, defaultsort name, etc.) template, there ends up being a constant need to monitor this template for incorrect "vital stats" uses on articles, drafts and user sandbox pages that have been translated or just copy-pasted over from Spanish.
    So because of that extenuating circumstance, I believe that there's a substantive case for treating this template as a special case that varies from the titles of its other provincial siblings to avoid that problem — and since "NF" is an old, no longer used postal abbreviation rather than the current one, the variant won't be nearly as difficult to justify as it would have been if the conflict were affecting "NL".
    Accordingly, I propose that this template use the province's original postal abbreviation "NFLD" instead of the two-letter transitional form "NF", with all of its (thankfully not that many) uses updated to the new name, and "NF" not retained as a redirect so that we stop having to deal with the flag of Newfoundland being wrongly placed at the bottom of Spanish and Mexican and Latin American biographies.
    Alternatively, if there's a way that "NL" could be coded to enable a "Newfoundland and Labrador" vs. "Newfoundland" switch, we could just add that and move all the NF uses to NL-with-switch, but I wouldn't know how to do that (or even if it's possible), although it might even be a better solution than moving this if it is possible. Bearcat (talk) 18:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Gwon Yul → Gwon Yul (general) – Seems to be a conflict between the two WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria. Gwon Yul currently does not meet the criteria for primary topic by usage WP:PT1: of the three ambiguous "Kwon Yul" articles, the army general is last in pageviews. Over the last year, the other two Kwon Yul articles have received an average monthly pageviews of around 15,000, while the army general has received only 1400. However, by WP:PT2 (long term significance), the army general is obviously the primary topic. Given the conflicting criteria, and what seems to be a very large pageview disparity between the army general and the other Kwon Yul articles (army general receiving 10x less traffic), I thought it'd be appropriate to open a discussion to see if the army general is indeed the primary topic or if there is WP:NOPRIMARY here. A move here would also involve retargeting the redirect left at Gwon Yul to Kwon Yul (which is the same name, 권율, just romanized slightly differently) RachelTensions (talk) 13:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Unknown Archon → ? – This "Unknown Archon" sounds like this is a proper name, but it's apparently not, this is just uppercase added to a translation of one of the general descriptions used in historiography about this story. The article is a bit of a mess - most of it is the lead section that doesn't actually summarize the body; half the body is a verbatim copy from a 20th-century translation of a 10th-century primary source, and then there's a few paragraphs which kind of say yeah none of this stuff in the lead is necessarily true true. So I don't really know if there's a good name for this topic, or if this small amount of context has potential - should it just be merged into a more general article? Joy (talk) 07:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 03:23, 1 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Feeglgeef (talk) 02:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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