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	==More unIDed fungi==
	G'day Cas,
	I've been frogging over the past few days, and the fungi season has definitely started! I have a coral fungi that I thought you would like for wiki, plus I also have a puff ball which I will upload later, will leave a message here when it is uploaded. Saw lots of fungi over the last few days, but only photographed the really interesting ones as I was using my small memory card, and wanted to leave some space for frogs.
	http://www.flickr.com/photos/52507572@N00/465979784/?rotated=1&cb=1177065560324
	Thanks. --] 10:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
	:There was another nearby (about half a metre) which was 8cm tall, so I would go with ''Ramaria lorithamnus''. It was taken in rainforest, was very little Eucalypt around. Do you want me to upload it to wiki? Thanks. --] 11:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
	== Nomenclature of fungi ==		== Nomenclature of fungi ==
	Hey there. I recently stumbled across an issue of ''Nova Hedwigia Beheift'' titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? ] 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		Hey there. I recently stumbled across an issue of ''Nova Hedwigia Beheift'' titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? ] 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	:That would be friggin' ''trés bién''. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is '']'' which was called ''Psalliota'' in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are '']'', which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, '']'' as a future FA, '']'' as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels - '']'', '']'' and '']''. '']'' would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, ] | ] | ] 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		:That would be friggin' ''trés bién''. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is '']'' which was called ''Psalliota'' in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are '']'', which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, '']'' as a future FA, '']'' as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels – '']'', '']'' and '']''. '']'' would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, ] | ] | ] 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	::Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for ''Amanita''). I'll look up ''Agaricus'', ''Amanita'' (since ''A. muscaria'''s the current type) and ''Psalliota''. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. ] 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		::Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for ''Amanita''). I'll look up ''Agaricus'', ''Amanita'' (since ''A. muscaria'''s the current type) and ''Psalliota''. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. ] 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	:::Cool, keen to see what pops up. cheers, ] | ] | ] 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		:::Cool, keen to see what pops up. Cheers, ] | ] | ] 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	::::I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (<small>{{cite journal| last=Donk| first=M.A.| title=The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae| journal=Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia| pages=1-320| volume=5| year=1962| issn= 0078-2238}}</small>) because I forgot about it until the last minute. ''Psalliota'' looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with ''Agaricus'', and might be older. ] 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)		::::I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (<small>{{cite journal| last=Donk| first=M.A.| title=The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae| journal=Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia| pages=1–320| volume=5| year=1962| issn= 0078-2238}}</small>) because I forgot about it until the last minute. ''Psalliota'' looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with ''Agaricus'', and might be older. ] 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
	::Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things ''Agaricus'' so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)		::Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things ''Agaricus'' so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
	<references/>		<references/>
	Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th-19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is ''a right mess''. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN???		Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th–19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is ''a right mess''. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN???
	LOTS of "''per''" in citation here. See		LOTS of "''per''" in citation here. See
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	:All proposals to conserve ''Agaricus'' against ''Psalliota'' or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous.		:All proposals to conserve ''Agaricus'' against ''Psalliota'' or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous.
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	;On ''Lepiota''		;On ''Lepiota''
	:Etym. Probably greek λεπις, "scale"		:Etym. Probably greek λεπις, "scale"
	:Basionym is ''Agaricus'' sect. ''Lepiota'' Pers. 1797, devalidated by later starting date, so the citation is (Pers.) ''per'' S.F.Gray. It was only described, without species, and covered an earlier mentioned, but unnamed group of ringed, non-volvate species, regardless of spore color. Fries restricted the genus to white-spored species, and made into a tribe, which was, like ''Amanita'' repeatedly raised to genus rank.		:Basionym is ''Agaricus'' sect. ''Lepiota'' Pers. 1797, devalidated by later starting date, so the citation is (Pers.) ''per'' S.F.Gray. It was only described, without species, and covered an earlier mentioned, but unnamed group of ringed, non-volvate species, regardless of spore color. Fries restricted the genus to white-spored species, and made into a tribe, which was, like ''Amanita'' repeatedly raised to genus rank.
	:The type is unclear. ''L. procera'' is considered the type (by Earle, 1909). ''Agaricus columbrinus'' (''L. clypeolarus'') was also suggested (by Singer, 1946) to avoid the many combination involved otherwise in splitting ''Macrolepiota'', which include ''L. procera''. Since both species had been placed into different genera prior to their selection (in ''Leucocoprinus'' and ''Mastocephalus'' respectively), Donk observes that a conservation will probably be needed, expressing support for Singer's emendation.		:The type is unclear. ''L. procera'' is considered the type (by Earle, 1909). ''Agaricus columbrinus'' (''L. clypeolarus'') was also suggested (by Singer, 1946) to avoid the many combination involved otherwise in splitting ''Macrolepiota'', which include ''L. procera''. Since both species had been placed into different genera prior to their selection (in ''Leucocoprinus'' and ''Mastocephalus'' respectively), Donk observes that a conservation will probably be needed, expressing support for Singer's emendation.
	;On ''Psalliota''		;On ''Psalliota''
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	Donk concludes the earliest valid type is ''A. muscaria'', the species in Hooker, adding that he'd personally favor ''A. citrina''.		Donk concludes the earliest valid type is ''A. muscaria'', the species in Hooker, adding that he'd personally favor ''A. citrina''.
	:The name has been republished three times in 1821: in Hooker, Roques and Gray (in that order). Roques maintained Persoon's circumscription, including ''Amanitopsis'' and ''Volvaria''. Gray excluded ''Amanitopsis'' and ''Volvariella'' into ''Vaginata''. Right after, Fries reset the name by reducing the genus to a tribe of ''Agaricus'', minus pink-spored ''Volvariella''. This tribe became a subgenus, than genus via various authors, Quélet, altough not the first, often being attributed the change. Sometimes it was used in a Persoonian sense (whether that is a correct use according to ICBN is not clear to me).		:The name has been republished three times in 1821: in Hooker, Roques and Gray (in that order). Roques maintained Persoon's circumscription, including ''Amanitopsis'' and ''Volvaria''. Gray excluded ''Amanitopsis'' and ''Volvariella'' into ''Vaginata''. Right after, Fries reset the name by reducing the genus to a tribe of ''Agaricus'', minus pink-spored ''Volvariella''. This tribe became a subgenus, than genus via various authors, Quélet, altough not the first, often being attributed the change. Sometimes it was used in a Persoonian sense (whether that is a correct use according to ICBN is not clear to me).
	:Homonyms of ''Amanita'' Pers. are ''Amanita'' adans. (1763, devalidated) and ''Amanita'' (Dill) Rafin. (1830)		:Homonyms of ''Amanita'' Pers. are ''Amanita'' adans. (1763, devalidated) and ''Amanita'' (Dill) Rafin. (1830)
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	Phew! ] 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)		Phew! ] 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
	:I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. ] 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)		:I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. ] 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
	::I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)		::I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
			== ] ==
	I gave it a primary copyedit and those are my comments so far:
	*"However, later discussion in 1994 showed that it was unclear whether the original Port Jackson reference had referred to this species"
	**Nothing has been mentioned so far that "Port Jackson reference" could refer back to. {{done}}
	*"A mature male will start to attack another as soon as one red tail feathers is exposed; they must be separated if caged."
	**This bit in "description" is not really "descriptive". It should be somewhere in "behaviour".{{done}}
	*"Flight is a rather slow with deep flapping."
	**A word appear to be missing in this sentence. {{done}}
	*under "symbolism": "an implementation of initiatives to ensure the survival of the Karak subspecies" {{done}}
	**Again, nothing tells us which subspecies that is actually supposed to be.
	*The "cited texts" of Flegg and garnett were not actually cited (though that is now mostly irrelevant). ''(problem - did Garnett, but Flegg wasn't my book in the first place so it is floating - can either leave it, delete it or...)''
	*The paragraphs about who supported or opposed the TNW legislation are confusing and look contradictory or illogical.You might want to carefully re-read and rewrite them.
	I'll keep an eye on the page as you edit it. ] 20:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
			LOL, I love your sense of humour. Maimonedes is a good reference. The reality is that Islam takes food restrictions from Judaism; and Christianity doesn't have any restriction (courtesy of three references in the New Testament). The reason why pork should be restricted (along with many other things) is not given explicitly in the Hebrew Bible, hence Bible commentators have been offering guesses since ancient times. My own favourite, however, is ], wife of ], daughter of a ] pastor. Her theory is excellent, based on her cultural anthropological observations, with a decent feel for how Biblical text works. It's rather an abstract theory though.
	::Thanks for all that - they are all readily fixable and I have some more bits and pieces to add.cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 20:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
			Anyway, I'll see if I can manage a literature review of dietry restrictions in the ANE, especially if there's anything explicit about pork. Don't think I'll find a reference for "why" the pork taboo is in place, though, if it's documented, I'd have read about that in commentaries.
			Perhaps a clay tablet with the answer has been destroyed in only the last few years during the "troubles" in Iraq. :( ] (]) 21:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
			::This is the great thing about uncertainty. Lacking an answer, the reports of Maimonides, Mary Douglas and the other guy mentioned are fascinating.Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	*There are now 2 distinct refs by Garnett. Add an abbreviated title to the paged notes.
	*The arguing over the legislation is still confusing. The first group deplores the "do-nothing" policy, but in the same breath adds "a catastrophic collapse in the Northern Territory population was highly unlikely", so the reader wonders whether the legislation is necessary. As for Forshaw, he argues both on the side of conservation and harvesting, which is extremely confusing. ] 16:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
			:::] is a remarkable article! Thanks for that, lol. ] (]) 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	One last thing: too much "however"s between CITES and Forshaw under "relationships with human" {{;)}} ] 16:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
			Spotted this. I'll look for a ref to the ] comment. The normal teaching is that pork is no more or less offensive to Jews than any other forbidden meat (dog, horse etc) or forbidden part of kosher animal (blood, ] etc). The pig (NB pig, not pork – an important distinction which is relevant for the Maimonides comment too, I note) is "singled out" because it alone of the animals that have one of the two "signs" (it has split hooves but doesn't chew the cud) lies down with its legs sticking out. Most quarapeds have their legs folded under them. There's a ]ic lesson to be learned there, apparently, that the pig is immodestly and falsely proclaiming its religious cleanliness, when it is not. Anyway, that said, I'll look into the M comment – he was quite ahead of his time in terms of medical knowledge (check his biog). And NB my OR/POV antennae buzzed when I read that little section. --] (]) 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	== Gray Wolf ==
			:Someone has tagged the ] for OR, though the talk page seems to indicate it is for a different reason....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	Hey Cas. I think you did some work on this for the FAR but people still feel it has issues: ]. Can you do a second look?
			::Hmm... makes me more dubious, but I'll check. btw... I'm not Alastair! --] (]) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	You'll notice I've had a one-track Titan mind for nearly a week. Weird, but the longer I edit the more fixative I become. I don't even bother with the watchlist and just go back to the last thing I was working on. Shouldn't be so selfish... I'll try to go over the wolf (and Mr. Lion) myself over the next few days. ] 20:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
			Have found good stuff, including online version of Maimonides text. I'll dump it here for you to use as you wish.
	== California Condor ==
	Thanks for your help in peer reviewing the condor article. I think I've addressed most of your concerns (still looking for one cite that I know I've seen somewhere), but you thought that a paragraph on the stork v. vulture v. unique order debate should be included in Taxonomy. Could you write that or give me a nudge in the right direction? I don't know much about that, and I also don't know how to write it and keep in neccesary for a California Condor article. Also, does anything else jump out at you? I'm planning on nominating it for FAC on Monday if nothing major pops up. Thanks. ] 15:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
			<blockquote>
			I maintain that the food which is forbidden by the Law is unwholesome. There is nothing among the forbidden kinds of food whose injurious character is doubted, except pork (Lev. xi. 7), and fat (''ibid''. vii. 23). But also in these cases the doubt is not justified. For pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter. The principal reason why the Law forbids swine's flesh is to be found in the circumstance that its habits and its food are very dirty and loathsome. It has already been pointed out how emphatically the Law enjoins the removal of the sight of loathsome objects, even in the field and in the camp; how much more objectionable is such a sight in towns. But if it were allowed to eat swine's flesh, the streets and houses would be more dirty than any cesspool, as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks.<ref>Maimonides, ], Book III ch.48. Can be viewed online at http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/gfp184.htm</ref>
			</blockquote>
			So, Maimonides argues "pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter", whatever that means! More importantly, the "principal reason" is that if you keep pigs, you end up with a dirty and unhealthy environment. Important note: Maimonides was writing from Islamic Egypt at the time, which is why he mentions "as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks." (ie France)
			The comments about the pig's habit of lying with its legs outstretched come from ] Vayikra Rabba (ch 13) where it is mentioned as part of an elaborate metaphor, but not in connection with any reason for particularly abhorring the creature.
	== ] ==
			Hope that helps. --] (]) 09:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	Hey, thanks for all your work on the article :) It'd be great to get it to FA, but frankly I have no idea what the standards are like or what's needed (my first attempt - ] - failed miserably). It's be good to work on it with somebody experienced, so thanks for everything! ]]\<sup>]</sup> 06:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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	:Hmm, interesting recipe. I get the feeling it'll help. Thanks! ]]\<sup>]</sup> 01:31, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
	::You could go and see Powderfinger live...it would save us on the image issues :) ]]\<sup>]</sup> 02:08, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
	:::Hmm, good idea. I'm looking into it now, hopefully it works out :) ]]\<sup>]</sup> 00:55, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
	== Daunting ==		==Bract pattern==
			]
			You know what I don't get? On page 245 of George (1981), and again on page 40 of Collins (2007), George gives a diagram showing the arrangement of unit inflorescences on a ''Banksia'' flower spike. Both diagrams clearly show a hexagonal layout; i.e. every common bract is surrounded by six equidistant common bracts, thus forming little hexagons. In support of this, George (1981) states "The unit inflorescences are so arranged on the axis that there are three pattern lines—vertical, and both dextral and sinistral spiral."
			I haven't dissected an inflorescence, but in some species the pattern persists right through flowering and can be seen on the infructescence. You won't get a better example than this ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' cone. Look at that pattern. There's no way you could call it hexagonal. It is a rectangular (or rather diamond, since the lines are diagonal) grid. Depending on how you define a neighbourhood, you could argue that each common bract has 4 or 8 neighbours, but there's no way you could argue for 6. Similarly, you could argue for two pattern lines (dextral and sinistral spiral) or four (dextral, sinistral, vertical and horizontal), but there is no way you could argue for 3, because there is no reason to include vertical whilst excluding horizontal). On top of that there is a beautiful symmetry in the way each common bract is surrounded by its own floral bracts and those of its neighbours. But George's diagrams destroy that symmetry.
	] is so damn big now, it's tough to get a handle on. I think the prose is in passable territory, although some bluelinks are turning up (e.g. teeth and jaw) that I don't think necessary. I'm more concerned about some sourcing. First, there's a couple hours of boring formatting to do and there are some weblinks that are too generic and unreliable for me. Those BBC animal pages are nice, but I wouldn't use them except for the most general stuff (we presently link the weight average to BBC). And anything like does not belong, IMO.
			I thought maybe ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' was an exception to a general rule, but you can see the same diamond grid, though not as clearly, in ], and I reckon (but am not certain) I can see it in my ''B.&nbsp;attenuata'' cone. And in ] too. What the heck is going on?
	Whenever I suggest taking even a GA to FAC is easy, remind me otherwise. ] is indeed in good shape, but it's already been a week and eighty edits and I'm only half through it. ] 13:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
			(I'm not just being a pretentious wanker here. I thought the diagram was interesting and informative enough for me to whip up an SVG version for Misplaced Pages. But since copying George's diagram isn't really on, and it is much better to go straight from nature if possible, I was basing my version on this ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' cone. But it isn't going to work if the diagram shows a rectangular grid and the text has to say it is hexagonal.)
	==RFA chart==
	Hey Cas,
			] 13:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
	Have you seen ? It has some mistakes on it, but what do you make of it? It's interesting, but it's hard to wrap my head around it. I thought perhaps someone in your profession might get a kick out of it. <font color="#0000FF">]</font> 22:04, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
	::Holy crap! ''(having trouble finding meself in it though....cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 23:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)		:Thanks for reminding me on this one – I think it was Alex (or Kevin??) who told me that every bract pattern was unique to a species and hence diagnostic, but as far as I know not much if anything has been published on this area. The similarity between ''archaeocarpa'' and ''attenuata'' was noted (the bract pattern remaining in the fossils). I seem to recall feeling bamboozled as well by the description when I read it some time ago. I will have to refresh myself with some bedtime reading....] (] '''·''' ]) 13:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
			:'''Update''': I had a look at the pages in question in the banksia book(s), there is a little bit more in the 1981 monograph but not much. I meant to ring Alex George about this and should do so in the next few days...I guess the photos look sort of like hexagons stretched vertically :P ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
	:::You're in there. Upper center, next to Spawny. <font color="#0000FF">]</font> 23:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
			:: ''Dipsacus fullonum'' Just passing through. I am not an expert with flora but I do take photos now and again. Does from my personal collection help or hinder your discussion? I see diamonds --] (]) 12:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
			::: Haha yeah. Not a bad comparison at all. a diamond pattern it is there as well. You sorta let your eyes go a little out of focus and see two diagonal lines....] (] '''·''' ]) 14:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
			==Question==
	::::Happy 17,000th edit, Cas! Congratulations! :) <font color="#0000FF">]</font> 13:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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	:::::A long way off 35k though :) cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 13:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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	::::::Not if we keep talking! ;) <font color="#0000FF">]</font> 13:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
			I note that the last six images to be posted on your talk page were posted by me. I'm not sure whether to apologise....
	== Reagan is FA! and my award ==
			What is going on in the lower image? Clearly this is an inflorescence in very early bud, but those furry white things are apparently not developing flower pairs. Are they some kind of protective bract or something?
	Well thanks Casliber. Indeed, I think Reagan would be proud. Best, ] 23:31, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
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			:You certainly see those thingies on the developing buds of alot of banksias. I'd be intrigued what the Nikulinsky book, which is essentially a series of plates of a developing ''menziesii'' inflorescence, says (not sure, I don't recall whether it had commentary...). Another thing to look up. Was about to look up the patterns just now. ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
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			:Now I have looked at the books and bract architecture, question is are they common bracts or are they something which falls off (don't think so but..). Something else to ask Alex. ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:49, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
	== Lambeosaurus ==
			::Having found nothing in George, I've been reading Douglas's stuff on ontogeny of Proteaceae flowers, and found nothing there either.<p>If you snap a spike axis in half, they are just that brown colour, and essentially made of closely packed fuzz. I wonder if there is initially no gap in the axis for the flower to grow, so the developing flower literally has to shove some of the axis out in front of it as it extends. This would explain everything except for the white tip. ] 10:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
	Hi, Cas;
	I'd like to wait a day or two, if possible. ] 02:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
	== Map ==
			I have today taken a long lunch and gone bushwalking with Gnangarra. While he took happy-snaps, I did some OR on this question. My diagnosis is: these are peduncles that have developed common bracts, but have not yet developed floral bracts or flowers.
	No Worries just send me the details, also email on way ]] 02:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
	::] is now on commons can you please categorise and add scientific names etc, ]] 03:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			In very young spikes like the one pictured here, they are not yet very densely packed together, so they can be perceived as individual peduncles. Given time, they will continue to grow, and as they do so they will become more and more densely packed together, until eventually they are jammed together so tightly that their dense coverings of hairs form the fibrous brown material that comprises a typical flower spike, and the common bracts at their apex will form the bract pattern on the surface of the spike. At that point, they will no longer be distinguishable as individual peduncles, but will simply be part of the spike.
	:::Great! OK - the subspecies (if you can make a darker blue for Tas would be great - or lighter for mainland that would be really really cool).cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 04:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			When the flowers start to develop, they get squeezed together even more. At this point, sometimes, a peduncle may break off the axis and be squeezed right out of the spike as the flowers around it develop. Thus you may see one or two of these furry things sitting at random positions on the surface of a developed flower spike.
	*''Malurus cyaneus cyaneus'' - Tasmania, King Island & Flinders Island
	*''Malurus cyaneus cyanochlamys'' - mainland oz
			As evidence for this hypothesis I offer the following observations:
	::{{tick|18}} '''Done''' and done remember to refresh your cache ]] 14:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			#Wherever one of those "furry things" is found loose on the surface of a spike, you will also find a gap in the bract pattern beneath it, where the common bract is absent;
	<s>
			#"Furry things" may occasionally be found partly out of the spike, but partly in, in which cases the white tip is quite obviously the common bract. In such cases removal of the "furry thing" leaves behind a visible hole in the spike where a common bract ought to be.
	:::Terrific! Do you remember what the colour codes where? I am going to make it like this one on ], or I can figure it out later but the codes would be handy</s>.never mind, taken care of .cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 20:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			] 05:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
	== ]: ==
			::Interesting – Gah! Forgot to ring Alex – evening is a crazy time with little availability for me, but will see what I can do. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
	I've nominated André Kertész‎ at FAC and hopefully it has the legs to make it accross the finish line. Despite this, I'd still love you to take a gander at the article and fix any spelling/grammar mistakes and rewrite and minor problems with prose if any exist. I'm quite proud of what I've done so far; 200 edits, 100% cited, added around 35,000 kilobytes and managed to find a free image of Kertesz. Anyway, I'd love if you could read through and amybe even give your opinion on the FAC page. Cheers Cas, :) ] 07:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
			Not OR any more. Look at the picture of "Banksia flower bud seen in profile" : clear evidence of the common and floral bracts forming one of those little furry upside-down pyramids, with the flower arising from it. ] 03:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
	::Wow, thanks for your enthusiasm. I'll understand if you don't wanna be in this for the long haul, but I'd sure appreciate if you'd be able to stick around for a bit - it's always nice to have someone else helping you at FAC. I've replied to Circeus on his talk page and on the to do sheet he left me on the talk page. I've left my concerns there and I'd love if you could come up with a couple of ideas as well as I'm at a loss. If you think we can make it, then I've got faith. Let's just hope it stays that way eh? ;) Thanks, ] 02:15, 29 August 2007 (UTC) P.S. What's that crazy admin nomiantion picture link yu've got up there from Firs? It seems crazy! I found myself - by golly I've nominated a few people...
			:On a tangential point, the first image would most likely pass FPC if it ever finds a home that is appropriate. ] (]) 06:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
	::Oh, by the way, did you happen to see the lunar eclipse last night in oz? I stayed up till midnight watching it - it's the rarest type of lunar eclipse, the one where it goes red. It was best seen from Oz and NZ. The last one was in 2000 and the next one's in 2011. It was pretty cool. Anyway, just wondering... :) ] 02:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			::Hmmm, okay, hopefully Hesperian will see this thread. :) ] (] '''·''' ]) 11:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
	:::mumble, lucky you guys I hired a lens to photograph it spent 3 hours watching it rain never even saw the moon. ]] 02:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
	::That's unlucky. We thoguht it was going to be cloudly, but then it cleared just as it started so we saw the whole thing. Seriously, you wont see anything so beautiful ever again in this lifetime - a real wonder of the world. ;) Just messing... ] 02:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)		:::Gosh, would it really?! I was quite proud of it but a bit unsure whether it had enough depth of field. But if I'll take anyone's word that it would probably pass, I'll take Noodle snacks. :-) ] 23:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
	:::lol great thanks, it wasnt even decent rain it was just that heavy misty drizzle type stuff :( <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:16, August 29, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	::::Yup - saw alot of it - in and out over dinner and through the evening - great to see "Niice" as ] would say :) cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 04:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
	:::Replied on the FAC page - hopefully some of that helps...? Hopefully... Otherwise I'm really gonna have a headache searching through 100+ pages of prose looking for the stuff I used... ] 09:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			== ''Banksia menziesii'' with persistent florets ==
	== Your book ==
			]
	I assume Schaller is that source you needed for some last troublesome facts? I feel the need to keep apologizing for this one because I got you into it and then didn't share the load. The sourcing has certainly seen dramatic growth.
			]
	::Yes indeedy - no worries - keeping mooning - I'll have a look..cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 13:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			While I was out a-walking in the bush one day last week, I spied a banksia with an unfamiliar jizz. Even on closer inspection I was bamboozled for half a minute until the pieces fell together and I realised I was looking at a ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' with persistent florets. Not just a bit late to fall: there were old cones from previous seasons with the florets still bolted on. In fact, there wasn't a single bald cone on the whole tree. I've never seen anything like it. Have you? ] 04:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
	Titan is ], BTW. Perhaps I'll drop back in on the cats afterwards. ] 12:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
			:Hmm..interesting. I have not ever noticed a menziesii like this, but not to say it can't happen. Might it be a ''menziesii/prionotes'' hybrid – how far is the tree from you? I'd compare the newgrowth/leaf dimensions/trunk all for comparison. Did it have any new flowers? Some of these old cones have an aura of prionotes about them...] (] '''·''' ]) 05:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
	== AS lead ==
	Cas, can you see what you think of my first shot of a lead, which may get ]? Thanks, ] (]) 00:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
	:Tony and Eubulides have both been through the lead, ready for ]. ] (]) 13:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
			::''prionotes'' crossed my mind at first, but the bark is that of ''menziesii'', and nothing like the distinctive ''prionotes'' bark. And the flower spikes lack the woolliness of old ''prionotes'' florets.<p>It's quite near my place; about ten minutes drive. Even closer to where Alex lives (assuming he still lives at the address he has been publishing under lately): only five minutes drive from there I would guess. If it's ''prionotes'' (which it isn't), then we've extended the known range of that species 10km south. Likewise, a hybrid means there's a ''prionotes'' population nearby, so it amounts to the same thing. ] 05:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
	== Andre & stress: ==
			== '']'' again ==
	This whole FAC thing is pretty stressful and I need a break. I don't want to dump things on you, but I'm gonna take a break for a day or two so would you be able to keep an eye on things in regard to Andre Kertesz? I've placed the page numbers in the references and added an info box on a request from somebody and I'm gonna see if there's any more references out there. I'm just kinda stressed right now. Anyway, I'm gonna go relax. Thanks if you can - if you can't, I guess I'll come back to a bunch of opposes lol. Cheers, ] 03:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
			I finally made it to the library and got a hold of you had asked about a couple of weeks ago. There's enough info there to make DYK-worthy stubs on the genus, and three of the species (''macrocarpus'', ''katerinae'', ''toomanis''), or, alternatively, maybe enough for a GA on the genus. What are the chances of images? Apparently these fungi make small but visible apothecia on the seed capsules. Berkeley and Broome first wrote about the fungus in 1887, so maybe there's a sketch from the protologue that's useable. Anyway, I'll start adding text in a day or two and maybe we can have the first Banksia/Fungi wikiproject collaboration? ] (]) 14:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
	::Oh & I forgot to mention that I really enjoy working with you Cas - in the future perhaps we could begin a two-man cleanup squad where we go around saving articles and selecting ones which are in dire need. Then maybe we could get more members and take over Misplaced Pages... Muahahaha! ;) In any case, you're a great guy. Cheers, ] 03:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
			:::Berkeley & Broome (1887) is online at http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/13683 — see page 217. There is a picture at Plate 29 figure 18. ] 02:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::That's a nice image on plate 29 there. They call it ''Tympanis toomanis'' on page 224 decription of plate. How do we capture that image and replicate it on commons? ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::]. ] 03:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	:::Yep - I'll keep an eye on it - friggin' pages are taking an a ge to load at the moment ''(grrr...)'' cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 03:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)		::::On page 222, they talk about finding it on a banksia cone near the ] in southern NSW, which leaves me thinking it is a cone of ''Banksia marginata'' although they do not state this (OR alert ++++). Funny looking marginata cone but marginata is a hugely variable species....] (] '''·''' ]) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::Check your email; I've sent you a copy of Beaton (1982), where they ''do'' state that the cone is ''B.&nbsp;marginata''. (You guys should have asked me first; I could have saved Sasata a walk to the library.) ] 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::@Sasata – I'll leave it up to you whether a solid GA and one DYK for the whole shebang, or 4 species articles – you've got the material and I am happy either way. cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	== Bupropion ==
			:::::Am working on the article behind-the-scenes now... that picture you uploaded is excellent, and thanks Hesp for finding the protologue. Too bad the scan resolution is so crappy; I can upload a screen capture/crop to Commons, but will first investigate to see if there's a copy of the original around here so I might rescan at higher resolution. Four DYKs and 1 GA doesn't sound unreasonable for the lot, but I'll see what I can come up with. ] (]) 03:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	Well, certainly more than ''a teeny bit''. So, when will you get started on ]? ]<small>&nbsp;(]·])</small> 23:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
			::::::The resolution is good. I guess you were looking at it at 25%. Try zooming in. ] 03:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::Yeah, it'll do the trick. I gave the article a good push towards GA. Hesp, do you have easy access to Beaton 1984, or maybe Fuhrer, B,; May, T. (1993). "Host specificity of disc-fungi in the genus ''Banksiamyces'' on ''Banksia''." ''Victorian Naturalist (South Yarra)'' '''110''' (2):73–75? I think once those two are located and added, that'll be it from journals (but you may find stuff to add from your Banksia books?). I could start stubs for the species, but it would be a shame to have to leave out ''B.&nbsp;maccannii''. ] (]) 07:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::I can probably get Vic Naturalist at UNSW Library next tuesday or friday (slim chance on weekend). ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::When you get to ''Victorian Naturalist'', you'll also want to grab {{cite journal | author = Sommerville, K.; May, T. | year = 2006 | title = Some taxonomic and ecological observations on ''Banksiamyces'' | journal = The Victorian Naturalist | volume = 123 | pages = 366–375}} ] 08:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::::Thanks for finding that, wonder why it didn't show up in my database search. Cas, if it's too mush hassle for you to get these, let me know and I can order them, would take 1–2 weeks to get here.
			::::::::I'll have easy access to Beaton (1984) on Monday. No access to ''Victorian Naturalist''. ] 08:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::Sorry, forgot again. I've just scanned it now. Cas: I'll forward shortly; if you have Sasata's email address, can you forward it on please? Otherwise, Sasata: send me an email so I know where to send this scan. ] 04:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::::I don't see any email link on your user page... I can wait until Cas forward a copy. Thanks kindly ] (]) 15:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::I guess you've never noticed the "Email this user" link in the sidebar toolbox.... ] 23:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::! Wouldya look at that... That's embarrassing! Now excuse me while I go give eyewitness testimony in a murder trial. ] (]) 23:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::::Hang on a sec, will send. Also, will be near the library again for Vic Naturalist. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
	::Aargh, once I get ] and ] through FAC..and both need a couple of factual things to be truly comprehensive before nomination - frustrating.....will have another look at it though...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 23:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)		:Hahaha. Fantastic. I just realised I never uplaoded a funny photo I took in WA a few years ago. I need to double check. ]'' had these dark objects on it which might be a fungus as they certainly weren't on any other cones I saw about the place.]] ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
			As OZtrylia has a notoriously under described rang of and field of mycology study – any signs of further fungi or algae work is to be encouraged at all points ]] 01:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	::PS: at least we have a template now :) cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 23:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
	==North Atlantic right whale==
	Could you PLEASE revert the title of the "Atlantic Northern right whale" to North Atlantic right whale, the CORRECT term for that species. I'm tired of having to go to every page were you appear to have incorrectly termed the species. ] 01:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
			Taking pity on poor Cas, whose ''Banksia'' books are still packed up in boxes:
	Thanks. Sorry for being an asshole about it, the title was bothering me and I didn't know how to change it. You wouldn't know how to cite books and papers, would you? I would like to add citations to the History of Whaling section, but I don't know how to go about it. ] 18:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
			From Collins, Collins and George (2008), page 47, first paragraph of a section entitled "Fungi and lichens":
	==Thanks again==
			"Many kinds of fungi are associated with Banksias. There is even a genus of fungi named for their association with these plants—''Banksiamyces''. The first species of these was recognised in the 1880s and placed in the genus ''Tympanis'', then in the 1950s transferred to the genus ''Encoelia''. Further collections and research led to the description of the genus ''Banksiamyces'' by Beaton and Weste in 1982, with two further species. Six taxa are now recognised, so far known from 13 species of ''Banksia'' (Sommerville & May, 2006). Commonly known as banksia discs, they have all been found on eastern Australian Banksias and one is also known in Western Australia. They are discomycete fungi, growing on the fruit and appearing as small, shallow dark cups on the follicles (Fuhrer, 2005). When dry they fold inwards and look like narrow slits. Their effect is unkown but it seems unlikely that they are responsible for degradation of the seeds."
	I fixed up the History of Whaling section. You said you had experience with featured articles? Well, could you help me fix up the History of Whaling section? I'd like to make it look more like the other history sections I've seen, but I'm afraid I don't quite have the same writing style as the rest. I tend to write dry, technical works, and I don't really know I to write like the others. I have all the info I need, I just don't know how to get my thoughts on paper very well. If you've seen my History of Whaling on myspace you'll see what I mean. Often times it looks forced. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			At the bottom of the page there is a photo of ''Banksiamyces'' on ''B.&nbsp;lemanniana''. They look like little light grey maggots on the follicles. Based on the photo and textual description, I would suggest that the ''B.&nbsp;violacea'' photo doesn't show this genus. ] 11:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	== Not so quick response ==
			:Hmmm, that's what I initially thought when I read the description and sketches in Beaton 1982, but after seeing B&B's 1872 sketches, I was pretty sure Cas's pic was a ''Banksiamyces''. I guess I should reserve judgment until I get more info. ] (]) 17:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::From the abstract of Somerville and May 2006: "Apothecia of these crops are of different macroscopic appearance, with lighter apothecia being mostly immature, and darker apothecia producing spores." ... so who knows? ] (]) 17:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			Anything else to add to this article? Shall we put it up for GAN? ] (]) 17:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
			:Yeah put it up, there might be some bits and pieces. I'll take a look. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
			::Any ''Banksia'' experts you're chums with that might be able to give a confirmation on your putative ''Banksiamyces'' photo? ] (]) 05:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
			:::damn, I meant to contact Tom May about it (who has been helpful before). Will dig up his email and see what he says. ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Hey Cas. The communication section seems fine after a read, but the prose needs massaging. Too many semi-colons; I had a semi-colon phase once, where I'd have one for every other sentence, but I've evolved to "short declaratives" as the way to go. I've also settled on 'although' rather than 'though' (after talking with Tony). Anyhow, I'll edit the prose after I've slept off the six pack.
			You may want to have a look there as well. Appears to have been improved by a Szasz fan. I've read diagonally , but even that doesn't seem to support the light in which the Halpern-Szasz issue is presented in Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 13:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
	One problem with the bigness is that there's always something to quibble about with the TOC. I'm not entirely happy with the order here (e.g., 'White Lions' and 'Hybridization' made sense to me side-by-side, but they've been moved). ] 19:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
	::Given the hybridization is more an artificial than natural thing then it could go in description as well - I'm not too fussed on order. cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 21:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)		:Just go back from a weekend break with no innernet..now where was I.....] (] '''·''' ]) 10:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
			== Aboriginal Astronomy ==
	::Fuck, I just tried to post something long, had a 'submit error', and then lost my crtl-c. Short story: I audited the para and (naturally) I think it better; watch your which/that usage, and phrasal excess (you can always avoid a sentence-inital "Consisting of,"). ] 20:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
			Hi Casliber – thanks for your note. Yes there's quite a bit more out there which Duane Hamacher and I are slowly trying to get written up. You can find some more stuff on www.emudreaming.com and you may find some papers you havent come across on http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rnorris/papers/papers.htm
			Have fun! ] (]) 03:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
	== Huia assessment ==
			:Great! I'll have a look and if I find anything specific to nag you on...I will :) cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
	Hey there, I've been doing a lot of work on ] over the past day or two and in about 3 hours I should be done adding extra information (with plenty of citations). This work represents a major expansion to the article and since you're an admin ( haha yeah I guess I do regard you as an authority with this status + you're obviously a very active member of the community) and a wikiproject birds member I was wondering if you could reassess it ( it's still at the "Start class" rating it was before I started working on it) as I want to get it to GA and comparing it with ] I think it should almost be there.. Cheers, ] 07:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
	: What a bloody good idea, it's a great goal and it will be really satisfying to help get an article to FA - it's also great to hear someone else is keen for this sort of effort with a NZ bird! I know some others I could possibly get on board. I've been planning a collab for one of the ] articles as they are a spectacular group of uniquely New Zealand birds and they have had very little work done on them so far. I'm really keen to run with Huia, because it's particularly unique but my only concern is that, even if we get up virtually all that is known about it, people might still think it's not up to FA standards because as a species it was little studied before extinction so there isn't alot of info about its biology. We can always go NATO on ] instead - Wha'dya reckon? ] 08:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
	:: I think Kokako could be pretty big, I'll get back to you in the next couple of days once I've scouted out the scientific literature, I think we should be good with amount of source material but if not I'll find another NZ bird as an alternative. Cheers, ] 09:54, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
			== Orange-bellied Parrot ==
	I've finished doing work on Huia for now, not sure if it's up to GA standards but would it be ok for you to reassess it at some point when you have the chance? I'd really appreciate the feedback because looking at HANZAB there is lots more to add and I'd be interested to know if some things need to be changed before I add more stuff but if you can't no worries. Cheers, ] 06:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
			] (]) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Hi. I would like to open for discussion the format of the entry for 'Orange-bellied Parrot'. As news occurs in the recovery program for this species, the limitations of the current format of the Misplaced Pages entry become more obvious.
	: Hey Casliber, I'm curious as to what work you think Huia needs to get to GA, although I must admit I'm kinda flummoxed when I look at ] for comparison, especially when I compare it to other "good articles" of a biological nature - is it really well referenced or long enough to be a GA? ] 12:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
			The heading, 'Conservation Status' should, I believe, be reserved for the actual conservation status in Australia, and in the three states, SA, Tasmania and Victoria. What follows after that, but still under that heading, at present, is a running commentary of events since about 2010.
			This is not acceptable.
			I propose another heading be inserted, 'Recovery Program' or similar. In it, a short history of the OBP recovery program could be given – since 1980 or so – and then, new events could be smoothly inserted as they happen.
			What do others think? The Misplaced Pages entry is an important first port of call for many people interested in this bird. We owe it to them, and to history, to provide a better entry.
			] (]) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
	== Where can you see lions? Only in Misplaced Pages! ==
			: Agreed. <s>Will take a look.</s> sounds good – helps with seamless updating and no doubt there is a lot of info that could be added. ] (] '''·''' ]) 08:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
	.
			== got any advice for writing a constellation FA? ==
	As a quick overview:
	*Well, obviously the five or so cite needed tags need to be taken care of.
	*Possibly lengthen the intro. It can probably be augmented by 50-60%
	*I'd personally like to see the taxonomy section higher, but the big listy parts are rather distracting, so I'll pass. Also, change the header to "Evolution and taxonomy", which is more reader-friendly.
	*I think ''Panthera''is usually divided in subgenera. The specific placement of the lion probably needs to be covered then.
	*Placing the single "White lions" paragraph under it's header there seems inappropriate.To me it looks like that should be covered in "physical characteristics" {{done}}
	*Consider putting the general text on lions in captivity as the intro text to the "lions and humans" section. Expand what it there too, obviously, because it is pathetic. I'm sure good material's been written on caring for lions in captivity.
	*Rename "attacks on human" to the more specific "man-eaters". The current title suggests it would cover ''e.g.'' attacks by captive lions. {{done}}
	*A image of an heraldic lion should probably be in "cultural depictions". ''Agree'' - {{done}}
	*Link aslan to wiktionary (in lowercase) instead of tr: {{done}}
	*The article does not seem to cover health. What peculiar diseases, parasites or injuries are lion susceptible to? There is a brief mention in "conservation status", but there should be more covering IMO. {{done}}
	] 17:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
			Thinking of diversifying and trying Corona B. ] (]) 16:17, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
			:It's easier than stars as there is less hardcore physics involved, but trickier as you have to make the material not "listy", which it sort of is by very nature. Smaller constellations are easier as there is less material to list generally. Star guide books, alot of which are on google, are good for general overview, how to find things, what's next to what etc. but alot of their factual info (distance/luminosity) is outdated. I have even suspected this in newer reprints/editions where new material is coming out. SIMBAD is a godsend and makes finding other material easy. I was using it as a ref itself but probably better to use the refs it cites. Overall I find astronomy articles more challenging than biology ones – trickeir to make engaging. We can collaborate on CrB if you like as I did plan on taking it All the Way at some point and then having it as a double mainpage with CrA. Collaborating is good as it makes for less work in some ways – each of us can copyeidt the other etc. 20:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
			::Just popping in during some of the rare free time I have at the moment to say that the hardest part of the constellation articles is figuring out exactly what objects to write about, since there is generally quite a bit of discretion in whether or not something should be in the article. I generally try to write about all stars brighter than magnitude 5.0, and the most-studied astronomical objects within the constellation, as well as a few other things such as extremes (e.g. R136a1) and unusual objects. One tip to find notable stars, I've found, is , which lists all Bayer, Flamsteed, and variable stars in each constellation by number of refs. Of course further research is necessary for other stars without said designations, but it's a good start. I would help, but I don't anticipate having much free time at all until at least December. ] (]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]) 21:18, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
			:::{{u|StringTheory11}} Wow! Great idea/find! That really helps. Agree with what you've said. I think it is good to get these in order as it also highlights what other articles are underdone or incorrect etc. ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
			::::Yup the small size was part of the reason I chose CrB (it's not the only reason though :-P). I'm cool with a collaboration. ST11's suggestions, as always, make a lot of sense. Going to read through some constellation FAs to get an idea of what to write – not least CrA... ] (]) 02:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
			::::::{{u|Double sharp}}, I have started buffing with this one. Just arting with the brighter stars – SIMBAD is best place to start and then chasing refs. Not sure how much you know about them (figuring distance from parallax etc...) so just ask away..or start on deep sky objects and I'll continue with stars (??) ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			== Carcinoma in situ ==
	:When I said "Expand what it there too", I was referring to the "lion baiting and taming" section that was placed as a subsection of "In captivity". ] 11:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
			The ] page has been updated and it explains the different views that sometimes carcinoma in situ is seen as a cancer and sometimes it is not. You will probably remember earlier this year that you supported changing my use of the term "invasive cancer" to "cancer". The expression "invasive cancer" is used frequently in books particularly when talking about cancer of the cervix and in my opinion using the term "invasive cancer" can improve clarity. What do you think of the explanations in the carcinoma in situ article? ] (]) 13:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
	::Ahaaaa ''(lightbulb above head goes on..)'' cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 13:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
			:As it reads , which ones are you thinking should have invasive added to them? ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
			::Whoops, I have phrased it badly above, but you seem to have understood me. I should have said that you did not support my use of "invasive cancer" and you preferred the use of "cancer" instead. Actually, to me, it is not as simple as just inserting the word "invasive". Back then, I saw a better phrase in a reference and I thought about using it, because I thought that it would be accurate, readable, and I hoped keep everyone happy; however, the situation become unnecessarily tense and I felt like I was walking on eggs (and you know what that means). I did not get around to developing the article any further nor mentioning the "magical" phrase. I will see if I can find the phrase again. I recall that the solution was to use a short phrase in the place of cancer or invasive cancer in the introduction. I am talking in riddles at the present time, because I want to make sure that I can find that phrase again, and that will mean thinking about the introduction again. ] (]) 20:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::Okay, let me know what you are thinking of once you get it clear. It is an intriguing question. ] (] '''·''' ]) 11:56, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::I would recommend the amendment belew, because the demarcation between non-cancer and cancer varies according to the literature, as we have seen, and this is made more difficult by a simplified language and vocabulary used to communicate the complex situation to patients. A definition of cancer that includes in-situ cancer is well established, but perhaps the world of the cytologist or histopathologist is a small world, where to say "invasive cancer" is not unusual. This is the current line in the introduction; ''"Cervical cytology tests can often detect precursors of cervical cancer and enable early successful treatment."''. I think that it would be more accurate if it said something like; ''"The main aim of cervical cytology screening is to detect precursors of cancer and early cervical cancer to enable early successful treatment."''. In this new line a full spectrum from viral changes to dysplasia to carcinoma-in-situ to early invasive cancer is included, so the controversy over where to put the non-cancer/cancer line disappears, and the meaning is clear no matter where the reader puts the line in his or her own mind-map. ] (]) 13:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::::::I reworded it like to make it flow better yet be inclusive and cover all interpretations. ] (] '''·''' ]) 13:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::::::After some deep thought, I think that your edit is good enough. ] (]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
			*What do you think about making a joint nomination with me to take the cervix article to FA review sometime? I would not be planning to edit much of the "History" and "Other animals" sections, because I do not know much about those topics. I am not usually on the nominator's side of the fence, but I would be willing to step into that role here, partly to test the water. ] (]) 13:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
	== Thanks: ==
			:I think it is a good idea – the prerequisites for being a nominator are being reasonably familar with the article and having the ability to address issues raised at FAC. Do you see anything else that needs fixing before listing it at FAC? 02:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			::Oh good. I would like to have a long look at the article before FA nomination, and I expect that I will not feel happy with the article as a potential FA nomination for several weeks. There is some content and page organization in the article (as it is now) that I would like to reflect on. The peer review is also worth re-visiting to see what was not achieved there. I will probably attempt to start a few discussions on the article talk page where relevant. Do you have any time frame in mind or any particular schedule of your own to work around? Of course, I would ask you to constructively criticize my work whenever you think that anything can be improved, and I will try to focus on the issue and answer honestly and objectively trying not to be fractious nor stubborn, with a view to learning from my errors. It think that it will work better like that, than keeping quite or not speaking up when you do not agree with your co-nominator. I am saying that because I guessed that you have not felt easy about not supporting your co-nominator in FA reviews previously. Also, as before, please be alert to my writing style, which can sometimes need re-phrasing owing to clumsy grammar, although the content is often unambiguous (to me at least). Apart from that, it could be challenging writing for general readers and even more challenging writing for specialist readers that are unfamiliar with the small world of histopathology. ] (]) 12:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::{{u|Snowmanradio}} I have no time scale on this so it sorta takes as long as it takes. The refs need fixing for page numbers. The material is pretty good – only thing from PR left is double checking lymphatic drainage really I thought. Anyway. Posting things step by step on talk page is good. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:39, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			*I would have though that the "Function" heading would be about normal function. Surly, putting a barrier in front of the cx is not a normal function of the cervix. Also, oc pills are more about pharmacology and modified functioning of the cervix. Should the "Contraception" heading have its own level-2 heading? This has been discussed before, but it is worth starting another discussion on the talk page about this? ] (]) 21:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			::I think that the human altering of function is fine there. I think it is fine as a level 3 heading underneath ''function'' ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			::: When medicines affect function, it is called pharmacology. ] (]) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			*In the introduction; "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in shape". Change to: ?
			::1. "... the cervix is cylindrically shaped usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in cross section".
			::2. "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in in cross section" ] (]) 17:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
			I think the first one or something like it – will take a look now. I wonder if the fact it is roughly cylindrical makes saying it's round in cross-section redundant. ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
	Thanks for article-sitting Kertesz whilst I was away. At least we've got no opposes as yet, and the opening looks 1 million times better thanks to Circeus. Anyway, I'm gonna have to give those books back to the library in the face of late fees, but I'll continue looking for extra sources. Do you still think the article can make it? ] 08:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
			:::Your amendment looks find to me. ] (]) 11:32, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
			*Should there be more consistency in using <nowiki>{{main|</nowiki> under more of the headings where there is an obvious main article else where? ] (]) 11:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{u|Snowmanradio}} Yes that sounds like a good idea. ] (] '''·''' ]) 18:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::OK, I expect that I will add some when I do some editing there. ] (]) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			*Re ]. Have you got any ideas on what to do with this article on the portio (or ectocervix)? I do not know why WP Anatomy has so many articles on sub-parts. If relevant, I expect that a formal discussion would be needed to consider a merge. ] (]) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			::I think it should be merged. Will post something. ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::I plan to watch for a while and express an opinion, if needed. ] (]) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::It is off to a good start over there. I think that there is nothing on the unreferenced portio page that can be copied over to the cervix page. We could start planing how to present the portio (and its various names) on the cervix page. ] (]) 12:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			* In have found what to me looks like a 2003 copyrighted version of ], so I have started a deletion discussion on Commons. Commons administrators will now have a look at it. Initially, I left an message with the uploader on Commons to ask a technical question about the image, and I noticed that he is currently blocked for three months, so I did a search for other copies of the cervix dilation image. The image should show the babies head moving down the birth canal as the cervix dilates, but the head looks stuck. The image is on about a dozen or more Wikis, so they might all be removed by a bot in due course. I am not sure if the image needs removing from the Cervix page at this juncture or not, so I wonder what you think about removal from the en Wiki. ] (]) 09:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			::Oh dear – I suspect it will have to be removed, though maybe hold for a moment and see if an explanation is forthcoming. ] (] '''·''' ]) 09:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::I recently found a photograph of a rare parrot with the wrong copyright and it was deleted from Commons one week after I started the deletion discussion. ] (]) 14:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::That sounds in keeping with deletion discussions elsehwere – around 1 week. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::::Update: Image was deleted this yesterday. ] (]) 13:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
			*The ] article has had a lot of work on it since about June, and it is well worth looking at. I expect that we could shorten (or otherwise amend) the section on cervical cancer in the "cervix" article, because the "cervical cancer" article offers a good readable account. ] (]) 12:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} I will take a look. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
			*Re ]. Sometimes, I like to tidy up the linked pages. This article was moved from the singular to the pleural in March 2014. I am aware that there is more than one HPV vaccine, but I would expect this to be on the singular name, unless there something controversial about it that I have missed. ] (]) 12:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} yes that is unusual and I think I prefer it at singular. I think it is worth discussing on the talk page. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
			*The "Anatomical abnormalities" section looks like a mixture of acquired and congenital diseases. Could this be organized differently? I nearly did a reorganization, but a little re-organization does not change much, and I suspect that it would be easier to do a bit of a re-write. Also, it may be possible to expand the section with a little about the developmental abnormalities of the female genital tract seen in Cryptophthalmos syndrome, Johanson-Blizzard syndrome, Rokitansky Anomalod, and as less commonly seen in Roberts syndrome and Trisomy 18 syndrome. These diseases are not at the front of my mind, however these are in the index of my rather old second-hand book on human malformation. This is not a small change, so I welcome your opinion. ] (]) 13:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} let me take a look. I don't recall it right now and I thought I was happy with it before but will look. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::I have become unexpectedly busy in real life, so I have not had much time for editing the Wiki. I hope that I will be able to contribute with more editing and work on the cervix article again after about two or three months . ] (]) 10:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			::::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} no worries. I found that I have lost interest in it. My free time (of which I have little) has to be enjoyable and thus something I have real enthusiasm for. I found I did get a bit enthusiastic about this one but comes and goes. More interested in ] and ] now. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			::::Also ] – very interesting story. I find writing about extinct species makes me sad (I leave them to {{u|FunkMonk}}) but rare ones are ok. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			:::::Apart from manual editing, I was hoping to write a few scripts for fun to do scanning and mass editing tasks on the Wiki this Autumn and Winter, but can not participate in a meaningful way at the present time. I plan to return when I can and I will look to see what you and User FunkMonk are doing then. Incidentally, have you any thoughts on why discussions about anatomy topics tend to be rather brittle? I might ask that question on the WP Anatomy talk page. ] (]) 10:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			::::::What do you mean by 'brittle'? ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			:::::::I will ask open-ended questions instead. Do you have any observations about discussions on anatomy topics? ] (]) 12:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
	::Man, are you ever offline? ;) Are you waiting for Circeus, me or someone else to reply, cause I've replied already... I've just been commenting on another FAC where someone called me wrong. Pah, Spawn Man is never wrong! ;) Seriously though, I kept me cool and replied explaining how right I was and then changed my vote to oppose. Quite proud really.... Anyway, I'm bored of Andre Kertesz now funnily - I do this; rewrite something and then move on. It was comic villains before Kertesz, then photographers and Kertesz and I think I want to move on now. Did you give any thought to my earlier proposal about being a rewriting team? Since I like changing subjects all the time, it'd suit me a whole lot and you're just brilliant at FACs and rewriting - we could be great! Well...? It'd give me something to log on for... Anyway, ] 08:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
			== Running a contest (talk page watchers welcome) ==
	:::Yeah, I was checking it out before you mentioned it - hmmm... I wonder if anyone reads my user page? Spent so much damn time on it, I'd laugh if no one bothered to read it. How about this; we each put together a list of articles we want to expand and then we can go through them or figure out a middle ground. I'll go through now and post them here tomorrow. I think we have a great collaboration ahead of us Cas. Personally though, I hate birds, so I can see me hating any birds articles we might work on. But I guess I mgiht get used to the feathery little nibblets (made that word up...) Anyway, ] 08:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC). P.S. How is your name pronounced? Is it Cas as in the "s" is like a z, so Caz? Or a soft "s" as Cassie?
			Right folks...I can't decide which (long overdue) contest to run again. Putting this out there to see what folks reckon the 'pedia most needs or would be most fun (as without enthusiasm, it won't work). For folks unfamiliar, I try to get a wikigrant so several folks have a chance of winning a $25 (''or more'') Amazon voucher. ] (] '''·''' ]) 00:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
	::::Or we could just press the random article button - has always worked for me. ] 08:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Just added some more citations, but I'm still gonna look for more. Cheers, ] 04:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC). P.S. And I'm gonna go compile a list now & I'll post it here for now. I'm gonna do as wide a range of topics as possible...
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			== Note to self ===
	Okay, here it is. I'll group stuff in topical sections. Maybe we can create a subpage on our user pages to keep our collaborative efforts and our projects. I'm thinking big here, so I'll get started. Here they are:
			Look at ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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	*Animals:
	**]. ]. (''Check out the misc sections in Crab and Duck; they both have the sentence "The Moche people of ancient Peru worshipped nature, especially the sea. They placed emphasis on animals and often depicted crabs/ducks in their art". The only word changed is crab/duck, so I'm doubting the verifibility of this claim.'')
	**]. Worked on this before - needs major work.
	**]. Looks fine, but underneath has serious issues. Like Tom Cruise. ;)
	**]. Comprised mainly of a list of species and not much else. It also has the same "The Moche people of ancient Peru worshipped animals and often depicted toads in their art..." sentence as Duck and Crab.
	**].
	*Plants:
	**]. Can use a good expansion.
	*People:
	**]. Main person at head of NZ's Labour hours etc.
	**]. A paleontologist who could use some expansion.
	**]. A bit of a change; most of the foundation is there, so it wouldn't take much to get the article to at least GA.
	**]. Tonnes of stuff on this guy and most of the work's already done.
	*My favourite, core topics:
	**]. For something that we all live on, it's a pretty pathetic article.
	**].
	**]. Some parts are rubbish and others have no sources.
	**]. Woeful condition for such a core topic.
	**]. No sources whatsoever and many small paras.
	**Practically anything from ].
	**]. We all have them, but the article is made of small paras.
	**]. No sources and almost all sections are prodded as needing attention. Possibly ] needs attention as well...
	*Colours - I know, but they are in dire need of cleanup...:
	**], ], ] (A bit better than the rest), ], ] (Which has OR and sentences like: "''The planet Saturn is yellowish, like a class G star''"), ], ], ] as well as any article from ]. Seeing as how a new colour is created every second (so I've heard) then we might have a lot of work to do. But we can get a great Featured Topic if we get a few up to scratch.
	*Other stuff:
	**Some paranormal stuff that's crap; ], ], ], ] and a psycological article, ], which you might know something about since you're a doc. :)
	*My second fave article; Really really short articles. I'm not sure if they'll be easy to find info on, but I'm sure we'll be able to find something to expand them:
	**]. Adding a line or two could double the article's size.
	**]. Keep on coming up with frog articles on random article...
	**] and many others etc etc etc. You get the idea.
			== This week's ] (week 46, 2023) ==
	Well, that's just the tip of the iceberg. We can either: 1) Begin working on these articles we've both suggested. 2) Press the random article button and edit whatever comes up if it's notable (A bit silly really...) or 3) Give up the whole idea. I'm leaning toward 1), but we'd need to set up a subpage on our user pages and compile a firm list of what articles we want to expand. Then we can decide if we want anyone else in on the act. Maybe Circeus would be interested? Or someone else you know. Or maybe we could occasionally enlist people to help - an expert maybe. Anyway, I'm really excited - I hate working on articles alone and if we did the old "my turn, your turn" in choosing articles, we could keep on going indefinitely. We get on pretty well as well, which can't hurt... So, whatdoyasay? Partners? ] 05:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Great Scot man! Are you ever ever offline? I'm beginning to think you edit wikipedia whilst listening to patients "''Doc, are you even listening to me??''" ;) In regard to "some of those thingies look good too..." - what things? Anyway, get back to me later, as I really think we could be a great team. You've come a really long way from when I first saw your edits on t rex (Or was it Dinosaur...?) and now you've helped get more articles featured than me. Cheers, ] 05:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:::Nah, I don't like putting my name to DYKs that I didn't create - just a habit thing. The only one I've done it with was ]. Anyway, how about this - We both close our FAC's, Andre for me, and your future lion FAC for you. Then we meet back here and begin. We can bring Circeus in on the act during FAC time or as a general copyeditor. Anyway, I'm gonna chill out for a while. See ya later! :) ] 05:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::::Oh, and I put some extra refs in Kertesz - hopefully that helps. Cheers, ] 05:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. Just noticed I've got 30 DYKs!
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	:::Oh, is that all? I didn't include it because I didn't think it was important lol. I'll stick it in after dinner. You're very optimistic. I'm more a Mr. Negativity. :) ] 06:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::Okay; I added notations to most of the books in the bibliography section - I'm asuming you wanted them there as that's where most of his books are. Check it out anyway, and if there's something missing, tell me. If not, I've fufilled your request. Cheers, :) ] 06:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
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	It looks like it didn't pass and I was suprised it closed so early. Anyways, any other suggestions you have would be appreciated. Thank you sir! ] 01:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Trying to maintain support for ] as a nominee for the collaboration of the week - noticed that you made a supporting comment but did not vote for it. Could you throw in a pro vote to keep it from expiring? Thanks! ]<sup>]</sup> 01:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
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	I've commented at the article's FAC - hopefully you won't take me opposing for the time being the wrong way. I just saw some things which need some cleaning up and thought an oppose vote would draw light to them quicker as well as not making people think I'm a CANVASSed vote or anything. Anyway, I thought you were working on lion at the moment? At least this can be a kinda collaboration - me commenting on your FAC. Anyway, still no action on the Kertesz FAC as yet. Kinda bored now - guess I'm too excited waiting for lion to get featured so we can start collaborating. C ya. ] 08:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
			Letting you know that the edit notice is now live - if you edit any article with refideas listed on the talk page, you will get the notification. :) You can click "edit" on ] to see it in action, if you have not already seen it. :) ] (]) 18:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
	:Hmmm, I think Wellington zoo here in NZ had a lion as its first animal. I think it was given to our first Prime Minister as a gift from overseas and he built the first zoo in Wellington (And NZ...?) with it. It was called King Dick. I know, charming name... Don't know if that's what you meant by zoo references? I'll take a look at the article tomorrow or something. ] 11:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Replied/supported. Looks great now. In regard to our collaboration thingy, we could take turns nominating for FAC; for example if the article came from my list of articles, I'd get to nom and if it came from yours you'd get to etc. I can't wait. You mentioned that you were a D&D player - I've noticed that the ] articles are pretty poor - maybe they'd be worth working on too...? Anyway, ] 05:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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			Hi Cas: I'm wondering if I can get you to cast your seasoned eye over ]. I'm going to try for FA, and wonder if you – as someone not particularly interested in lichens – find any of it hard to understand or lacking in information. Any comments much appreciated! ] (]) 19:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
	Hi Casliber, wanted to gather your thoughts on ]. Currently we have an article on the ] subspecies, the ] subspecies and the ] species. I was thinking it might be better to merge these all into one article, as there's a lot of overlapping information. Your thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. PS I looked at the ] article the other day—looks to me as if this will be the new gold standard of mammal ]s. Truly impressive! --] 17:16, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
			:Happy to/A pleasure. But busy so ping me if you haven't seen me there in 3 days or so. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 48, 2023) ==
	== We are needed! ==
	Stumbled upon this AfD (]) and thought our help could be sorely needed. I think we can save this article in much the same way as you save lions IPC - there's tonnes of stuff and I think about a day or two's work and we could have ourselves another success. I'm gonna finish going through the AfD lists to vote on a few, and hopefully you'll accept the challenge. Cheers, ] 05:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Replied to your post on my talk page for a change - JSYK. Cheers, ] 05:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::Like I said, make a subpage for a list and put all the articles you've thought of there and once we've got our FAs out of the way, we can narrow it down/begin. ] 06:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Count me in once we've done our lists, got our FAs off and of course, I'm gonna be working on Spiders in pop culture for a wee bit. Any help there would be appreciated. I tried to rewrite the opening without any books at my side, but I'm gonna go look for references soon - there's been a few more delete votes, so I dunno if I just left the article if it'd be okay. Anyway, gotta go edit. Cheers, ] 06:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::I've begun work on the Spiders IPC article - I'm really proud. I think I've done a really transforming job. I don't even recognise my work any more, not after I've worked on Andre Kertesz and begun editing really well. You've helped as well Cas - I think my editing has improved since I've been collaborating with you, even if it has been a short time. Anyway, if you have any references, I'd love to have them to add to the ones I've got so far in the spider article. Cheers Cas - I'm so happy. I finally feel like a pro editor. Thanks. ] 09:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Great work finding that first reference - it was sorely needed for the opening. ] 09:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::Rewrote/expanded a couple of the paras you added. I think I/we've done enough to save it from deletion, but I'll keep on rewriting whilst your FAs are being done. Still excited, but getting impatient... :) Cheers, ] 23:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
	::::I thought we weren't starting our collaboration until ''after'' you've finished with lion etc?? If you start with vampires you'll have lion, red cockatoo thing, vampires and anything else you're working on. To select articles we have to set up a way to select them man, because if we just start working on everything, we'll soon lose interest or have too many projects. So for the time being, focuss on your other projects, keep vampire aside (it ain't going anywhere) and then we'll set up how to vote/select articles from our list. I'd suggest we only work on one article at a time. And no, I hardly ever, if ever, use my watchlist even though I've got like 2000 pages on it. Cheers, ] 00:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::Yay! It was kept! ] 00:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
	::::I saw...so do you want to leave it at that or push on to GA status? cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 00:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Lemme finish rewriting it to a good standard so we have the foundations to work from, then we can try to get it to GA. But like I said, it'd help if we both got our previous engagements (Kertesz and lion) out of the way before we start collaborating. Cheers, ] 00:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Rewritten. Just needs refs and some extra sourced info in the movies, literature and other depictions sections. ] 04:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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	== A collection of general / specific material about zookeeping of mammals ==
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	Since that seems to cause you serious trouble, I prowled for potential places to look:
	*{{cite book |last=Bonner |first=Jeffrey P.| chapter=Lions and Tigers and Bears |title=Sailing with Noah : stories from the world of zoos |year=2006 |publisher= University of Missouri Press |location=Columbia |isbn=0-8262-1636-6}}
	*{{cite book |last=Crandall |first=Lee S. |title=The management of wild mammals in captivity |year=1964 |publisher=University of Chicago Press |location=Chicago |oclc=557916 }}
	*{{cite book |last=Crandall |first=Lee S. |coauthors= William Bridges |title=A zoo man's notebook |year=1975 |origyear=1968 |publisher=University of Chicago Press |location=Chicago |isbn=0-226-11762-6}}
	*{{cite book |last=Bell |first=Catherine E. |title=Encyclopedia of the world's zoos |year=2001 |publisher= Fitzroy Dearborn |location=Chicago |isbn=1-57958-174-9}}
	*:I once thumbed through this one, and I'd be surprised if there was nothing you could use. It includes a number of entries for animals, so with some luck it might provide further sources.
	*{{cite book |last=Hediger |first=Heidi |title=The psychology and behaviour of animals in zoos and circuses |year=1968 |publisher=Dover |location=New York |isbn=0-486-62218-5}}
	*{{cite book |last=Baratay |first=Eric |coauthors=Elisabeth Hardouin-Fugier |title=Zoo : a history of zoological gardens in the West |year=2002 |publisher=Reaktion |location=London |isbn=1-861891-11-3}}
	*{{cite book |last=Koebner |first=Linda |title=Zoo book : the evolution of wildlife conservation centers |year=1994 |publisher=T. Doherty |location=New York |isbn=0-312-85322-X}}
	*{{cite book |last=Robinson |first=Phillip T. |title=Life at the zoo : behind the scenes with the animal doctors |year=2004 |publisher=Columbia University Press |location=New York |isbn=0-231-13248-4}}
	In hoping that some of these turn out to be any use... ] 00:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	::Fantastic - thanks for the heads up..cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 00:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::Okay, I've started a bit with Baratay (which might replace a significant amount of the undu-ly weighted Tower London Stuff, as it is significantly more global), but it is a very hefty book (ca. 400 pages, 25x25cm), and I am not very good at condensing info (especially as this discuss a related, but distinct topic), so it might take me some time to digest and turn what is there in usable material. ] 21:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:::I got the Heiniger book...verry weird. Thanks for the input....gotta get off computer now for a bit. cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 21:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::::No, her full name is "", not "Hei'''d'''i Hediger". I had mistyped her given name the first time when copying from worldcat. ] 21:10, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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	You recently placed "''The ] people of ancient ] worshipped nature. They placed emphasis on animals and often depicted spiders in their art.''" in the cultural depictions of spiders article. I had thought of putting this in but was hesistant due to the text's appearance in many other articles. For example, in ] "''The Moche people of ancient Peru worshipped nature. They placed emphasis on animals and often depicted ducks in their art.''", in ] "''The Moche people of ancient Peru worshipped animals and often depicted frogs in their art.''", in ] "''The Moche people of ancient Peru worshipped animals and often depicted toads in their art.''", and again in ], although it could also have been included in numerous others. It seems as though someone has simply copied and pasted the segment onto any article they please and changed the words to relate to the article. And people have been spreading it further just becasue it has a reference. Do we know for sure that they depicted ducks often in their art? Do we even know if there even was ducks in the area at the time? 'm gonna remove the text for now, but it can be replaced if you can find if the source is actually true or not. I believe toad and frogs, but ducks and crabs? Being significantly depicted in the art is one thing, but having one carving of a crab is another. ] 05:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::Okay, you haven't responded to above, but I've got some great news. I just went to the library and went through my book shelf and came out with 7 books that can help with the ] article. I'd love if you could leave me alone with the article for a day or two or three. Since I'm able to help, maybe the vampire article can be our first official collaboration? Not so good news for Kertesz though - he's had an oppose on him, although I am certain I've fixed it. Could you swing by the FAC and see if the guy's opposing for what I think he's opposing for; page numbers in references? I did this ages ago, but it seems he hasn't noticed. Anyway, I've come up with a check list so we can get our collaboration structured and underway. Here it goes:
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	::Does that suit? I'm rearing to go, so please say yes.... Anyway, I'm kinda tired, so I might not start on vampire right now, but will definitely soon... I took my Kertesz books back to the library and found that they were overdue by two days, due to me reading the wrong date. However, I managed to get them waved by sweet talking the librarian. I'm telling ya, I'm such a good lair I could get a Jew to eat pork. Speaking of ], that article could be good to edit. Anyway, get back to me. I'll be drifting around the computer, but I'll be watching the All Blacks at the rugby world cup... :) ] 06:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. And I've also made a list of articles at ]. It's only the stuff under our collaboration heading, not the other stuff.
			Hi Cas. Edits and comments on the blurb are welcome. I'm thinking of running this at ] on January 11; does that work for you? It hasn't changed much since your edits in 2019, and Jim has recently looked at it, so I think we're in good shape. - Dank (]) 18:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
	:On second thought, Vampire is in much worse condition than I had previously thought! It'll take me at least a week to rewrite things so we can have a workable draft. Gimme some time, but I promise you won't be disappointed. Why don't you work on lion for a bit? Vampire has a lot of prose issues, the sections were all messed up, the citations are terribly thin and it sounds like a bunch of OR. Seriosuly, I'm gonna have my work cut out for me, but as you saw with Spider IPC, I'll get through it eventually. When I'm at this stage, I work better alone, but definitely after I've done the rewrite, we're green light. Here's my mind map of what I'm gonna do basically: 1 - Delete all the nonsense OR. 2 - Copyedit rewrite top to bottom (Sorry if a couple of you edits get caught in the crossfire...). 3 - Merge my info into the article. 4 - Cite whatever I can. 5 - Finish and work on it with you. Bear with me (Sorry if I'm coming across bossy), but this article really needs it and I don't want to accidentally delete one of your edits you might make during the rewrite. Cheers, ] 08:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
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	I was begininng to get worried about your whereabouts Cas! ;) Seriously though, thanks for leaving vampire with me for a while. I'm glad you liked my list! :) How are we going to go about nominating articles though for FAC? Will we go by who has the most edits to the article, has contributed the most or who's list it was on? Or you could give them all to me... ;) Muauauhaha. Anyway, I'm done for the night. As I said, the All Blacks are on at midnight and I have to get up early, so I'm gonna be TIRED with a capital S. Anywah, I've briefly reordered the sections at Vampire, but I'm sure they'll change once I've sorted through the rubbish and expanded. Phew, g'nite. :) ] 09:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
			This article is just crying out for your expertise. Enjoy! ] (]) 02:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
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	''Aha, do you wanna run '']'' up through FAC next, or finish up '']''...I've just got ] there at the moment and intend to get ] there soon but it has a bit of a thorn in its paw...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 11:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)		:Oh dear...] (] '''·''' ]) 02:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
			::I assume you're on your way to the library: good! Thanks! ] (]) 13:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
	:Ah, you young turks - so full of enthusiasm and energy. Yes and no. I wouldn't say I'm 100% back but I am certainly getting back up to speed.
	:It's funny how these things happen. Having wikisourced '']'', all I really wanted was to put in a {{tl|wikisourcepar}} link to it from '']''. But the taxonomy section needed some work, I overdid that, and now I can't stop until I've given the whole article a once-over. For now I'll be happy to push it to B-class though. Too many other things on, not enough time.
	:Gnangarra put '']'' on hold until he can get some more pics. Other than that, it is ready to go IMO.
	:I'll let you know when I'm ready for another FAC push. I think we agreed on ''B.&nbsp;spinulosa'' next, but I don't mind switching if other stuff pushes ahead between now and then.
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			== This week's ] (week 49, 2023) ==
	Well, I'm sure as heck not getting anything done while I'm sitting here chin-wagging with you.... I was reading ''The Dryandras'' the other day, and they spend a handful of pages talking about the history of the introduction of dryandras into European horticulture. I confess it never really occurred to me that this was interesting - who cares about a lot of rich toffs with nothing better to do than play botanist, swapping seeds and plants with their fellow toffs, while all the while employing gardeners to do the dirty work in their greenhouses? But ''The Dryandras'' managed to make this material interesting.
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	A lot of this history is documented in the horticultural magazines of the day - magazines like '']'' and '']''. Since these were written for rich toffs playing botanist, rather than real botanists, they often included beautiful colour plates. For example there is of ''B.&nbsp;integrifolia'', from Volume 54 of ''Curtis'', the accompanying text of which states who first sent seed to Europe, who introduced it into European (or British at any rate) horticulture, and where it is first known to have flowered.
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	The image certainly merits uploading, and the text merits transcribing to Wikisource. Our mutual friend ] is undertaking this arduous task, and I shan't interfere. But I have to wonder whether, and to what extent, some of this material really ought to be worked into our '']'' article, which is, after all, featured. I'm inclined to say it should, but at the moment I don't really know how.
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	::Ab-sol-lutely it should be worked in..dunno how yet either. shall we just give ] a heads up on this? I've never interacted with him/her...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 13:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
			Hi Cas, I hope that things are going well for you. While I am not keen to add to your list of unsolicited requests, ] is at FAC and could do with both another review and a look through by a knowledgeable editor. If you felt up to providing either of those, it would be much appreciated. Thanks. ] (]) 13:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
	::: You did briefly, when you thanked me for , I have been meaning to try my hand at the swampy one. Lovely old thing - it will deserve some attention when I'm done hashing it up. I have actually been toying with stubs using texts from Curtis's, I'm too embarrassed to point them out yet. I will let you know what I can make of it, the short text has usually got a snippet or two for wikipedia space. I have found the writing of Dr. Sims is pretty good, a lovely preface to his departed friend Curtis. On the subject of images, I happened to find a couple more'' 'Dryandra' ''last night. Let me know if you have a particular one you want transcribed from Curtis's. I will reserve my views on the merits of botanical illustration, but it is interesting to note that James Edward Smith saw none. One illustrator did little to endear himself, by what became known as ''Sowerby's ]'' :) Regards, ] ] 23:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
			:Ooo, interesting. I'll take a look ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 50, 2023) ==
	The joke's on me. I said I wanted to push it to B-class. After , I just went to the talk page to promote it, and found it has been rated B for over a year. :-D Anyhow, I'm done with it for now. ] 02:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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	I've rewritten up until "Common traits in folklore" - JSYK. See if you like what I've done so far; contact me if you think something should be incorporated or added, but it's basically been summary stuff so far - I'm just gonna get into the topic stuff soon. Kinda tired, so might do it tomorrow (All Blacks won... Yay! They'll beat Ozzie easily...) ;) Anyway, ] 07:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	::Erm, I haven't actually rewritten the "Common traits in folklore" - only ''up'' until there. As I said, your edits might get deleted/rewritten, but I suppose you can rewrite them from the history after I'm done. The article's still an active mine zone, so don't worry about the end result; you'll be impressed. Anyway, You can add that sciency bit into the "Natural propagations for beliefs" section after I'm done rewriting the article, since I'm not aquainted with that subject. So yeah, gimme a few more days. I've still got over 3 quarters left as well as adding my own cited stuff. What would be helpful would be for you to find some free use images on vampires. As well as that, possibly add anything you want to the article's talk page and I'll try and incorporate it in during the part when I add my text after the rewrite. It's late here, so I'll start tomorrow. I've been only semi active since it's the weekend, but I'll get to normal over the week. Cheers, ] 11:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
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	==''Banksia'' id==
	I was about to put ] into '']'', but on closer inspection came to doubt the identification. I suspect ''B.&nbsp;attenuata''; can you proffer your opinion please? ] 06:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
	:Cheers. ] 01:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
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	I see you've ] with a little one before Lion. (Goodness, you've got a lot of sources on Lion, although I'm slightly concerned by the age of the books.) I've left a couple of comments on the Cockatoo but it looks good all round.
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	Once ] is done, I'll likely turn to Leopard. I figure I'll alternate between an animal and an astronomical body for the rest of the year. Titan is fully sourced now, incidentally. ] 13:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:I assumed from the way you'd talked about it that Schaller is canonical. "Is he still cited in papers today?" is the main question, so OK. At this point, you're far more familiar with all of the sourcing on Lion than I am, so it would actually be time-wasting for me to deeply audit it. Maybe do a PR before FAC and I'll just do my bullet points then. ] 19:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Your edit about free range hippos, stirred my deepest, darkest desire on Misplaced Pages -- to create the page ]. Have you ever read about this? , ''LA Times''. I'd never create the page... the deletionists would go bonkers! But I can dream, oh yes! PS I think you're right on the white rhinos. Wait until the article takes better shape, but no reason to turn the subspecies into redirects so early in the process. And ] shows that a subspecies article can definitely have merit. I've been a ] lately from the beasties. --] 16:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Grrr! The guy's still freakin' opposing - despite the fact that all of the freakin' un-numbered cites are supported by freakin' cites which are freakin' numbered! Therefore, what difference do they freakin' make to the freakin' article for freak sake!? Honestly. I'm gonna freakin' try and get the freakin' books back before I freakin' lose my freakin' mind. Though, I'll be freakin' lucky if I freakin' even freakin' do. He hasn't even freakin' looked at the freakin' facts and by the freakin' time I'll be freakin' able to get the freakin' books back for freaks freakin' sake, the freakin' FAC will be freakin' over. Freakin' hell. I feel a little freakin' bit freakin' better now getting all those freakin' freakin's out. Sorry to wind you in like this, but I'm losing patientence for a problem which isn't even that big a freakin' deal. I'm gonna try and start on Vampire again, but I freakin' sick yesterday. Sorry, but I'm just really freakin' annoyed at the moment. I worked so hard on that article and I spent freakin' ages citing it and right after I give the freakin' books back, he opposes. ] Freakin' 00:51, 11th of Freakin' September 2007 (Freakin' UTC)
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	::Don't worry, sorted out. Your talk page is always a great calmer for me - No wonder you're a doc. ;) ] 01:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:::I'm up for Werewolf after this, but I don't know if I like the whole pair of articles idea. I'd prefer to just pick one from each list alternatively and if we feel like it, maybe pick 2 of the same genre. Anyway, Vampire's gonna take me a long time, since I spent most of today editing Kertesz to get rid of the opposes - it looks better now though. Anyway, after Vampire, I'd prefer to do something different and then pick werewolf. It's not as if it's going anywhere quickly. Cheers, ] 03:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC). P.S. You don't need to bold things on my talk page, just put quotation marks or something. :)
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	::I sense some man-love going on here. ;) Good for you Cas, about time you went on a date. Hehehe... Anyway, I'm ] here, and would really appreciate your help. The guy now wants a critics section; I've given the books back as I've already said a million times and I wouldn't know where to start anyway without sounding POV ("''Kertesz was great because...''") ;). If you give me an idea of what I need to do, maybe I can do it. It would really help if you, say, laid out a skeleton of what I need to write and then I could fill it in etc or something?? I'm losing it JSYK, and I'm spending waay to much time cleaning up this guy's copyedits on the article page where he deletes vital information and cites, when I should be working on Vampire. Please help... Cheers, ] 00:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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	==''B.&nbsp;victoriae''==
	Cas, I don't suppose you can dig up a photo of '']''? The article has two images, but both are intrinsic to the taxonomic history narrative, and I am loathe to remove either into the taxobox. By the way, you might like to have a read of the taxonomy section there; there's an interesting story there that you won't have read in anything of George's. ] 13:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:I thought the same (re: ''baxteri''). But Bentham gives them both as ''victoriae'' in ''Flora Australiensis'', and if I trust anyone, I trust him. ] 23:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Curiouser and curiouser! I misread those sources - it is only the later seed that is attributed to Drummond. To be flowering in 1835 that seed must have reached England by 1832 at the latest. But Drummond didn't start sending plants and seed back to England until conscripted by Mangles to do so in 1835, and ''B.&nbsp;speciosa'' is not in Meissner's 1852 list of species collected by Drummond. As far as I know, ] only visited the south coast. I don't think ] went further north than the Swan River. ] never strayed far from Augusta. ] didn't reach Australia until the end of 1833; too late. Where oh where did those seeds come from? Perhaps they ''were'' ''B.&nbsp;baxteri''; maybe that's why George has ignored the whole episode. Gosh this is exciting. ] 00:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Sorry Cas, my limited home library resources don't cover these. I looked over the articles and they are fascinating. I wish they gave references. They sound spot on, I don't doubt them, it's just I'd love to look at the primary source texts. Maahes has two 2006 publications cited at the link at the article, and an image of an artifact is reproduced there too. I've read a little about Nubia, and what is said about the relationship between Egypt and Nubia fits.
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	You've aroused my curiosity though. I've just got back on line after a failed hard disk tragedy. I'll poke around a bit to see if I can find the standard sources covering these lion gods. I'll do something about Daniel also. There are only 12 chapters in the book of Daniel, and only one deals with the lion den. ] 16:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:Hi Cas, Encyclopedia Mythica has a short entry on , written by Stephanie Cass. It reads as follows.
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	<p>A somewhat obscure leonine god who may be of foreign origin, Maahes (whose name has been translated to mean "True Before Her") was worshipped in both Bubastis (or, in Egyptian, Per-Bast, the cult center of Bast), Leontopolis (also the cult center of Tefnut and Shu as twin lions), and especially Upper Egypt (perhaps through confusion with the Nubian lion-god Apedemak). Maahes is regarded in later times to be the son of Bastet and Ptah in Memphis. </p>
	<p>Maahes (also called "Lord of the Massacre") punished the transgressors of Ma'at and was represented as either a lion or a man with a lion's head and a knife. His protection was invoked over the innocent, and he is sometimes regarded as a son of the triad in Memphis alongside Nefertem and occasionally Imhotep. The Greeks pronounced his name as either Mihos or Miysis.</p>}}
	:A much more satisfactory article is available at . This includes a reproduction of the name Maahes in heiroglyphics, and a reproduction of an image of Maahes in the classical Egyptian style for deities.
	:There is also a write-up at a peculiar but impressive site devoted to an American lady who has revived an eclectic version of ancient Egyptian mythology as her own religious movement (dare I say personal "cult"). She has done a LOT of research, but gives it her own harmonizing "spin".
	:Leontopolis is extremely relevant to any discussion of human-lion contact. If any culture has come close to domesticating lions and incorporating them into daily life, it would be this city (or at least, that is its reputation). Mind you, how do you define the difference between a culture with temples to various animals, and our own modern zoo, which builds a "temple city" of shrines to them all, lol.
	:What exactly do you need regarding Maahes? The heiroglyphics of the name can be reproduced in Wiki mark-up. Images of artifacts ought to be public domain (so long as they are "scientific" not "creative"). ] 00:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Aesop indeed! Translations from Greek tend to be excellent in the main. The language is well known, and manuscript copies and citations tend to be good. Much good Greek literature was also translated into Latin too, of course. Other ancient writings don't always have such a tracable history, and sometimes the vocabulary of the languages themselves rests on much more limited evidence. Egypt has left us more documentation than most cultures, and its language survived for millenia. There's enough around now to teach Egyptian along with Greek and Latin in "Classics"! ;) ] 01:17, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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	I left a bullet list on ] in advance of an FAC. Kudos again for all the work. I'll continue a ce to the bottom. (I often think these big pages suffer from topofthepage-itis—almost too many edits to the LEAD and following, and not enough attention elsewhere).
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	Are you still up for FARing with ]? (Absolutely no problem if you're not, of course.) I don't think it's quite there. Compare it, in fact, to Lion, an animal of similar profile. The LEAD is insufficient; the ToC tips toward overwhelming; the sourcing is certainly good, but there's info that needs it. But it is information rich and (in the glass half-full sense) you could say it's almost there. ] 20:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Gee thanks Cas for the barnstar - What added to the surprise was when I saw that the article was now a GA candidate ! So thanks for the award, totally undeserved considering I'm taking soo long with Vampire - I swear I keep on getting distracted. You seem busy though with Lion etc, so I hope you don't mind...? *Gulp* I also got another Vampire book, which is quite good - I should have enough material to revamp (Excuse the pun!) the whole article thoughroughly now. I am enjoying our collaboration so far Cas, even if it does consist of you waiting around for my lazy arse to rewrite articles whilst you nominate articles I've never worked on for FAC. ;) I swear, I'm gonna put the effort in - there's just been a lot of stuff going on in RL too, so bear with me. Again, thanks for the barnstar pal - Regards, ] 03:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Okay, so far I have a description of the relevance and importance of lions and other big cats in early seraglios and menageries (16th-17th century), as well as their uses in blood fight, and commentaries on the symbolism of the lion hunter in the 19th century, but I'm not sure whether the combat stuff should go in "lion-baiting", and whether the symbolism should be placed in ]. Any recommendations? ] 01:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::OK - given how stubby the baiting section is, any more info on fighting would be good to go there as it segues into the lion-baiting material there. Place it and we can see how it scans - if it comes across as ''really'' clunky then maybe into the bit with other menagerie stuff.
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	::As far as the symbolism of lions in menageries - I think it is also best to put with other material on zoos etc. as it relates mainly to the importance of these animals in said entities. also, the cultural depictions bit is about to get a little bigger ''(I forgot ]...)'' cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ])
	:::On second thoughts, it doesn't go well with "lion-baiting", since baiting AFAICT specifically involve the use of dogs, while we're talking about animals such as bulls, elephants, big cats, bears, horses, bulls, and even cows and donkeys facing each others. ] 02:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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	Hey Cas. I suppose this is becoming a monthly request, but could you spare ten minutes for kp or rm on some of the articles kicking around the bottom of FAR. I've let it pile up. (I'm still leaning back and forth on Gray Wolf and will probably give it a close read tonight.) Cheers, ] 09:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 4, 2024) ==
	==Photos==
	Dropped a few photos on my user page if you would like to use them. They are for the most part good, but not perfect as I am still getting used to my new photo gear. I expect a lot more quanity and quality shortly. I've had the IDs double checked by a few poeple already but feel free to inquire about details if you think any of the photos look off.
	:] 19:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
	== *pokes* ==
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	Hey Cas...haven't spoken in a while (possibly because I've been away, possibly because...erm...nah, it's because I've been away)...so how've you been? ''']''' (]) 05:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/4}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
	:Yeah, I have Romanian ancestry - is this the awkward bit where you tell me you do? If yes, leave a note on rowiki so I can demonstrate my lack of ability to speak the language :) ''']''' (]) 05:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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	My first adventure to featured topics: ]. Silly really. In theory, FT ought to be a great motivator, but it seems like arbitrary hoops to jump. ] 21:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:Well, the '''must'' have a linking article' criterion is silly, when pushed. Are we really going to need to take ''Panthera'' to FA? We need a competent page on the genus, certainly, but I don't see why we need an FA if all the species (by far more widely hit) are FA. Anyhow, I've started Leopard, but the page basically needs rebuilding. ] 22:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Oh yes, it ''can'' be. I don't mean otherwise. I just wonder why, for the sake of FT criteria, we should make that a priority, if the four species articles are already FA. We should make the genus a competent page, but the genus itself is not the primary presentation concern. Put another way: I'm going to get hit by a bus one day Cas, and I need to decide in the meantime what's worth attention :). Species articles themselves, I think. ] 23:16, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:::I should've said "hit by the ''proverbial'' bus one day" to be less prophetic and morbid. Or, perhaps, "carried by the ] into the great mead hall in the sky." That wouldn't be so bad.
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	:::The MoS boondoggle is tying me down. Haven't edited much of anything in the mainspace today. 20:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)]
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			== Mentor request ==
	:The reason I am making many small edits is that I am copyediting an article in an advanced stage heading toward FAC. I am not the main contributor and want to highlight to that person the changes I am making and why ''(well I did initially but later gave up)'' - I generally do this as some others are online who were asked to edit and I hate losing stuff in an edit conflict. cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 09:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
			Hi,
	== DYK September 20 ==
			seeing that you're the only one of the mentors listed at ] naming astronomy among his interests, I would like to request mentoring from you before an FA nomination of ]. For some background: I achieved GA for that article back in 2018, and have recently restored it to that level. I have attempted to bring an article to FA once (in a completely different field: railways), but aborted it for some reason - after lots of work based on helpful reviews, which taught me about some finer points of the English language and citation templates -, and it was 13 years ago, so I barely remember it & standards probably changed a lot since.] (]) 17:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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			:Heh, I'll take a look. Cool article BTW. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
			::If you have the time, could you please take another look at the article, and tell it it's now ready for FA nomination? Over the past two weeks, I have re-ordered the history, impacts & close approaches sections in a sequence that seems logical, trimmed some sections covered in greater detail in linked articles, and changed access/archive date format after all. ] (]) 09:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 6, 2024) ==
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			== WikiCup 2024 February newsletter ==
			The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.
			Our current leader is newcomer {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}}, who has one FA on ] and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AirshipJungleman29}}, with one FA on ], two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Vami IV}}, with one FA on ], one GA on ], and 11 reviews;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|MaranoFan}}, with one FA on ], a nine-article FT on ], and two DYKs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Skyshifter}}, with one FA on ] and one DYK;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}}, with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|voorts}} and {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Elli}}, both with one FA and one DYK each.
			As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on ]. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on ] and the judges ({{User|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User|Epicgenius}}, and {{User|Frostly}}) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 8, 2024) ==
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			== Beer ==
			I obviously owe you one. Thanks! ] (]) 21:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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			|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Heh one day... ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 9, 2024) ==
	== Conflict ==
	We actually edit conflicted while both trying to move the conservation section! Talk about timing. Some bits about captive disease might have to return to the "captivity" section, though.What you think? ] 04:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::Hahaha - someone just opened a ] in the building and I've fled to a computer....I have the health threats on my clipbaord as we speak. If it is all in the health section we can reduce more. Of this:
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	''The main threats to captive lions, in addition to general disease affecting all felines, such as ], comes from recently known viruses such as CDV (]) and FIV (]), both of which may severely affect population viability. While FIV, which is similar to ] is not known to adversely affect lions, its effect in domestic cats are worrisome enough that the Species Survival Plan recommends systematic testing. FIV occurs with high to endemic frequency in several wild lion populations, but is mostly absent of Asiatic and Namibian lions.<ref name="zoos_encyclopedia"/>''
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	Virtually all can go but for lat bit on FIV, problem is, it then talks of SSP which hasn't been mentioned yet in '''health''' section. cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 04:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
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			== WikiCup 2024 March newsletter ==
	And by the way. It's been slipping by everybody, but there's still a {{tl|fact}} tag in the subspecies list! ] 04:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
			The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.
	::??! - lemme see...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 04:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
			The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:
	::::After snooping 'round online I suspect this ref will cover that last tag:
	* Ernst Probst: ''Deutschland in der Urzeit''. Orbis Verlag, 1999. ISBN 3-572-01057-8
	but I can't be absolutely sure...I can always cut it I guess. cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 06:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}}, who has 916 points mostly from one FA on ], 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
	== Sick: ==
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Vami IV}}, who has 790 points from two FAs on ] and ], two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AirshipJungleman29}}, who has 580 points from one FA on ], two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}}, who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|MaranoFan}}, who has 351 points from one FA on ], a nine-article FT on ], and three DYKs
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Skyshifter}}, who has 345 points from one FA on ], one DYK and two reviews
			In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Vami IV}}, who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five ] articles, eight other good articles, and two ]s. Vami also wrote an essay on ], a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his ].
	Sorry I haven't been as active lately - I've been really sick and I've only just managed to check my talk page. I feel like I'm being left out with all your FA noms, but I hope I'll be back soon to finish Vampire so I can nom it... Anyway, I'm feeling a bit better so should have more time later on in the week. Regards, ] 08:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
			Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on ]. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on ], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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			== RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I ==
			Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the ] is now '''no longer accepting new proposals'''. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving ]'s structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|HouseBlaster}}, provides for the addition of a text box at ] reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
			* ''']''' and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Barkeep49}} and {{noping|Usedtobecool}}, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|SilkTork}}, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
			* ''']''' and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|BilledMammal}}, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Lee Vilenski}}, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Reaper Eternal}}, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
			* ''']''', ''']''', and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|City of Silver}}, {{u|Ritchie333}}, and {{u|HouseBlaster}}, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Novem Lingaue}}, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Kusma}}, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
			* ''']''' and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Thebiguglyalien}} and {{noping|Soni}}, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the ]; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
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			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|theleekycauldron}}, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|SportingFlyer}}, provides for a more robust alternate version of the ].
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Femke}}, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|WereSpielChequers}}, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|HouseBlaster}}, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.
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			== TCC 2024 ==
			Hi Cas, any interest in judging again for TCC this year? Myself and Femke are already interested. If you're too busy, I'm happy to find someone else. Best – '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">]]</span>''' 05:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
			:Happy to do so. Will head over to look at discussion. ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			I just made a few small edits; feel free to revert or discuss. - Dank (]) 16:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
			:They're good/improvements. thx. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 13, 2024) ==
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			]—Misplaced Pages's most exciting contest—returns again this year from April 15 to May 31. The goal: to improve ] or other core articles, with a focus on those in the worst state of disrepair. Editing can be done individually, but in the past groups have also successfully competed. There is {{GBP|300}} of prize money divided among editors who provide the "best additive encyclopedic value". ''']'''. Cheers from the judges, ], ], ]. – '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">]]</span>''' 02:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
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			== Move protection of ] ==
			In 2015, you had protected the page to temporarily restrict edits to autoconfirmed editors and at the same time, indefinitely restrict moves to sysops only. Is it OK with you to have the move protection to be dropped? ] (]) 03:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
			:Sure. Done. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 14, 2024) ==
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			plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --] (]) 20:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
			== WikiCup 2024 April newsletter ==
			We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.
			Our current top scorers are as follows:
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}} with 642 points, mostly from 11 ]s about radio and television;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|voorts}} with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (] and ]) and three GAs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|SounderBruce}} with 497 points, mostly from a ] about the ] and two GAs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Tamzin}} with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink ] and three GAs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Kusma}} with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist ] and a GA.
			Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on ]. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from ] to receive more points.
			If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read ]. Further questions are welcome on ] and the judges ({{User|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User|Epicgenius}}, and {{User|Frostly}}) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
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			== WikiCup 2024 May newsletter ==
			The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.
			The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}} with 707 points, mostly from 45 ] reviews and 12 ]s about radio and television;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 ] nominations about coinage and history;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|SounderBruce}} with 552 points, mostly from a ] about the ], three ], and two good articles;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|BennyOnTheLoose}} with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player ], two featured lists, and one good article;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|voorts}} with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (] and ]) and three good articles.
			The full scores for Round 2 can be seen ]. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 ] credits and at least 200 ] credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to ] and ].
			Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on ].
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			== Problematic digital media use and Major depressive disorder ==
			Hello there! I noticed that the Digital media addictions subsection from the Major depressive disorder article that was excerpted the Digital media use and mental health article Depression subsection. Considering that you are a psychiatrist and helped get the Major depressive disorder article up to featured article status (per your user page), I was wondering if you'd be willing to trim that section on the Digital media use and mental health article in accordance with WP:MEDSAY. I've been trying to improve the Digital media use and mental health article (hopefully to featured status if possible), initially by just tracking down systematic reviews and meta-analyses that find associations between the various problematic digital media use categories and recognized mental health disorders by the DSM and ICD and other human factors issues associated with problematic digital media use. Unfortunately, I am not a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist so all I can do is look things up using Google Scholar and often do not have access to entire articles. Another editor has raised issues with the article's layout at its talk page, if you have the time to comment on it. Thanks! -- ] (]) 01:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Okay, difficult topic and I have little time for the stuff I want to prioritise on as is. First thing, some context is good but too much is unnecessary - e.g. paragraph is just too distant from the topic at hand. Am even unconvinced about whether the remaining paragraph is needed (leaning to not but need to read and think some more) ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			== RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins ==
			Hi there! Phase I of the ] has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
			* '''Proposals 2 and 9b''' (''']'''): ] and ]
			* '''Proposal 3b''' (in trial): ]
			* '''Proposal 13''' (in trial): ]
			* '''Proposal 14''' (implemented): ]
			* '''Proposals 16 and 16c''' (''']'''): ] and ]
			* '''Proposal 17''' (''']'''): ]
			* '''Proposal 24''' (''']'''): ]
			* '''Proposal 25''' (implemented): ]
			See the ] for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. ] (]), via ] (]) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 19, 2024) ==
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			== This week's ] (week 21, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			== This week's ] (week 24, 2024) ==
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			== Mr. Two Hundred Thousand ==
			{{stupid t-shirt|'''I MADE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND EDITS AND EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT AROUND MUCH ANYMORE I STILL GOT THIS STUPID T-SHIRT!!!'''}} <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 02:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
			:''(Hyuk hyuk hyuk)'' fair point. I keep trying to reignite the fire...but hard competing as I've returned to being a DnD DM...competing priorities...sigh ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 25, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			== This week's ] (week 26, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/26/1}}'''</span>
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			== WikiCup 2024 July newsletter ==
			The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.
			The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 ] on ], 11 ], 18 ] nominations, and dozens of reviews;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Skyshifter}} with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on ] and ], 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}} with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on ], 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AryKun}} with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on ], with a high number of bonus points from that article.
			The full scores for round 3 can be seen ]. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 ] credits, and at least 285 ] credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to ] and ].
			Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on ].
			If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see ]. Further questions are welcome on ] and the judges ({{User|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User|Epicgenius}}, and {{User|Frostly}}) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 21:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 27, 2024) ==
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			== This week's ] (week 28, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			== This week's ] (week 29, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/29/1}}'''</span>
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			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/30/1}}'''</span>
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			== This week's ] (week 31, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			== This week's ] (week 32, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/32/1}}'''</span>
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			== Humpback whale FA ==
			Do you think the article is Satisfactory? I could expand a little more, but I'd also like for your to participate since you were the original nominator. ] (]) 22:36, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
			:I'll take a look. It's been a long time so will undoubtedly need something ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
			::Here are some more articles you could use and ] (]) 15:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
			::How are things going? Do you still plan on working on this. I would do it by myself but am a bit hesitant since I didn't nominate it and I may have already made it into the ]. ] (]) 22:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 33, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			== This week's ] (week 34, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/34/1}}'''</span>
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			== This week's ] (week 35, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/35/1}}'''</span>
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			==]==
			You protected this article 5 years ago. I thought it could be unprotected as vandals would have long gone? ] (]) 09:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
			:Let's give unprotection a whirl. ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
			::Thanks ] (]) 22:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
			== Good article reassessment for ] ==
			] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 20:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
			== WikiCup 2024 August newsletter ==
			The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 ]s, 2 ], 7 ], and 13 ] nominations;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Arconning}} with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AirshipJungleman29}} with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on ] and 2 good articles; and
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|BennyOnTheLoose}} with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on ], 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.
			Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen ]. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 ] credits, and at least 333 ] credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to ] and ].
			Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on ]. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.
			If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see ]. Further questions are welcome on ] and the judges ({{User|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User|Epicgenius}}, and {{User|Frostly}}) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 03:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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			*{{pagelinks|Shuhada' Davitt}}
			Hi. An article you protected over a decade ago seemed to have its protection settings removed recently. Do you mind removing protection settings from its redirect as well?] (]) 18:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
			:Sure, why not. Done. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 36, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			== This week's ] (week 37, 2024) ==
			{| style="width:100%; padding:2px;" class="TAFI-weekly"
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			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/37/1}}'''</span>
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			== Vandalism of Gold standard articles by a person who's disruptive edits you've dealt with previously. ==
			Dear administrator. Can you please take a look into the edit history of these Karnataka dynasty pages
			1) ]
			2) ]
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			They have been continously getting vandalised by a Maratha caste IP looking to promote his caste. Please take a look at his edit history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2409:408C:ADB5:3805:E56B:A989:87F5:F563
			I think similar edits were made by the same person in the ] dynasty page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&action=history) which made you protect the page for a period of 3 months about 4 days back. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&diff=prev&oldid=1247580284)
			Kindly do the same for the other dynasty pages he is targetting as well. He is using old British period sources which according to WP:RAJ is unreliable (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_172#Are_British_Raj_ethnographers_unreliable.3F.)
			The same account seems to be adding those dynasties to promote his caste here as well ]. Please look into it (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_Maratha_dynasties_and_states&action=history).
			Thank you. ] (]) 10:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 40, 2024) ==
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			Casliber, it looks like things are busy where you are, but in case you have any time, might you be able to promote any DYK preps to queues? The queues are all empty, and six preps are full; it would help if we could get some movement here. Many thanks even if now's a bad time; you've done so many promotions over the years. ] (]) 02:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			:Taking a look ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			::Thank you so much! ] (]) 19:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			:::Not a problem. Been busy (and busy still). Will try to keep an eye on it. ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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			Hi Casliber, I am a new editor and recently got ] promoted to GA status. I'd like to go for Featured Article status, and am wondering if you could be a mentor and provide some advice. Would greatly appreciate any help! ] (]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added 00:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:Ah ok. Bit busy but will do so in a few days ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 41, 2024) ==
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	Honestly, I think Tiger is going to be more or less as difficult as Lion. They're of similar exposure, and both need citations into the three digits. Leopard, like Cougar, ought to be about 60 to 90, IMO. (Although searches aren't turning up as much as I'd hoped.) Tiger is in better shape, definitely, but sometimes it's actually easier to do a page up from nothing than to wade into one that's partly done, partly not.
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	Casliber, with ref to Durova's talk page - please tell me there's no such thing as wiki-eavesdropping! You can easily see that I'm new here - one of the huge attractions for me is that so far as I have found, EVERYTHING in Misplaced Pages is recorded, archived, and open to inspection. There are definitely places where things have been closed off, users deleted, diff's not available, "redacted" if you will. But all those instances I have seen are referenced by some other trace, so I know they have at least occurred. If there are truly black areas of WP, please don't tell me Santa.
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I recently stumbled across an issue of Nova Hedwigia Beheift titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? Circeus 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC) That would be friggin' trés bién. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is Agaricus which was called Psalliota in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are Amanita muscaria, which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, Gyromitra esculenta as a future FA, Agaricus bisporus as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels – Amanita virosa, Amanita bisporiga and Amanita verna. Boletus edulis would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for Amanita). I'll look up Agaricus, Amanita (since A. muscaria's the current type) and Psalliota. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. Circeus 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Cool, keen to see what pops up. Cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC) I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (Donk, M.A. (1962). "The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae". Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia. 5: 1–320. ISSN 0078-2238.) because I forgot about it until the last minute. Psalliota looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with Agaricus, and might be older. Circeus 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC) Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things Agaricus so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC) Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th–19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is a right mess. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN??? LOTS of "per" in citation here. See On Agaricus Etym.: Possibly "from Agarica of Sarmatica, a district of Russia" (!). Note also Greek ἀγαρικόν "a sort of tree fungus" (There's been an Agaricon Adans. genus, treated by Donk in Persoonia 1:180) Donk says Linnaeus' name is devalidated (so that the proper author citation apparently is "L. per Fr., 1821") because Agaricus was not linked to Tournefort's name (Linnaeus places both Agaricus Dill. and Amanita Dill. in synonymy), but truely a replacement for Amanita Dill., which would require that A. quercinus, not A. campestris be the type. This question compounded by the fact that Fries himself used Agaricus roughly in Linnaeus' sense (which leads to issues with Amanita), and that A. campestris was eventually excluded from Agaricus by Karsten and was apparently in Lepiota at the time Donk wrote this, commenting that a type conservation might become necessary. All proposals to conserve Agaricus against Psalliota or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous. References Letter is script and looks like a Russian и. On Lepiota Etym. Probably greek λεπις, "scale" Basionym is Agaricus sect. Lepiota Pers. 1797, devalidated by later starting date, so the citation is (Pers.) per S.F.Gray. It was only described, without species, and covered an earlier mentioned, but unnamed group of ringed, non-volvate species, regardless of spore color. Fries restricted the genus to white-spored species, and made into a tribe, which was, like Amanita repeatedly raised to genus rank. The type is unclear. L. procera is considered the type (by Earle, 1909). Agaricus columbrinus (L. clypeolarus) was also suggested (by Singer, 1946) to avoid the many combination involved otherwise in splitting Macrolepiota, which include L. procera. Since both species had been placed into different genera prior to their selection (in Leucocoprinus and Mastocephalus respectively), Donk observes that a conservation will probably be needed, expressing support for Singer's emendation. On Psalliota Etym.: ψάλιον, "ring" Psalliota was first published by Fries (1821) as trib. Psalliota. The type is Agaricus campestris (widely accepted, except by Earle, who proposed A. cretaceus). Kummer (not Quélet, who merely excluded Stropharia) was the first to elevate the tribe to a genus. Basically, Psalliota was the tribe containing the type of Agaricus, so when separated, it should have caused the rest of the genus to be renamed, not what happened. It seems to be currently not considered valid, or a junior homotypic synonym, anyway the explanation is that it was raised by (in retrospect) erroneously maintaining the tribe name. On Amanita Etym.: Possibly from Amanon,a mountain in Cilicia. A first incarnation from Tentamen dispositionis methodicae Fungorum 65. 1797 is cited as devalidated: "Introduced to cover three groups already previously distinguished by Persoon (in Tent. 18. 1797) under Agaricus L., but at that time not named. It is worth stressing that was not mentioned." With Agaricus L. in use, Amanita was a nomen nudum per modern standard, so Persoon gave it a new life unrelated to its previous incarnations, and that is finally published after a starting date by Hooker (the citation is Pers. per Hook., 1821). He reuses Withering's 1801 definition (A botanical arrangement of British plants, 4th ed.). "The name Amnita has been considered validly published on different occasions, depending on various considerations." Proposed types include (given as Amanita. Sometimes they were selected as Agarici): A. livida Pers. (By Earle, in 1909). Had been excluded in Vaginata or Amanitopsis and could not be chosen. A. muscaria Pers. (By Clemens & Shear, 1931) for the genus (1801) from Synopsis fungorum, was generally transferred to the one from Hooker's Flora of Scotland, which is currently considered the valid publication of Amanita (or was in the 50s). A. phalloides (by Singer, 1936) for the 1801 genus. A.bulbosa (by Singer & Smith, 1946) for Gray's republication. This is incorrect as Gray's A. bulbosa is a synonym of A. citrina. Some authors consider Gray to be the first valid republisher. A. caeserea (by Gilbert, 1940). Troublesome because not known personally to Persoon or Fries. Donk concludes the earliest valid type is A. muscaria, the species in Hooker, adding that he'd personally favor A. citrina. The name has been republished three times in 1821: in Hooker, Roques and Gray (in that order). Roques maintained Persoon's circumscription, including Amanitopsis and Volvaria. Gray excluded Amanitopsis and Volvariella into Vaginata. Right after, Fries reset the name by reducing the genus to a tribe of Agaricus, minus pink-spored Volvariella. This tribe became a subgenus, than genus via various authors, Quélet, altough not the first, often being attributed the change. Sometimes it was used in a Persoonian sense (whether that is a correct use according to ICBN is not clear to me). Homonyms of Amanita Pers. are Amanita adans. (1763, devalidated) and Amanita (Dill) Rafin. (1830) On Boletus Not including (Not in Agaricaceae, sorry). Phew! Circeus 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC) I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. Circeus 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC) I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC) Pork LOL, I love your sense of humour. Maimonedes is a good reference. The reality is that Islam takes food restrictions from Judaism; and Christianity doesn't have any restriction (courtesy of three references in the New Testament). The reason why pork should be restricted (along with many other things) is not given explicitly in the Hebrew Bible, hence Bible commentators have been offering guesses since ancient times. My own favourite, however, is Mary Douglas, wife of Louis Leakey, daughter of a Lutheran pastor. Her theory is excellent, based on her cultural anthropological observations, with a decent feel for how Biblical text works. It's rather an abstract theory though. Anyway, I'll see if I can manage a literature review of dietry restrictions in the ANE, especially if there's anything explicit about pork. Don't think I'll find a reference for "why" the pork taboo is in place, though, if it's documented, I'd have read about that in commentaries. Perhaps a clay tablet with the answer has been destroyed in only the last few years during the "troubles" in Iraq. :( Alastair Haines (talk) 21:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC) This is the great thing about uncertainty. Lacking an answer, the reports of Maimonides, Mary Douglas and the other guy mentioned are fascinating.Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Scotish pork taboo is a remarkable article! Thanks for that, lol. Alastair Haines (talk) 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Spotted this. I'll look for a ref to the Maimonides comment. The normal teaching is that pork is no more or less offensive to Jews than any other forbidden meat (dog, horse etc) or forbidden part of kosher animal (blood, Gid Hanasheh etc). The pig (NB pig, not pork – an important distinction which is relevant for the Maimonides comment too, I note) is "singled out" because it alone of the animals that have one of the two "signs" (it has split hooves but doesn't chew the cud) lies down with its legs sticking out. Most quarapeds have their legs folded under them. There's a midrashic lesson to be learned there, apparently, that the pig is immodestly and falsely proclaiming its religious cleanliness, when it is not. Anyway, that said, I'll look into the M comment – he was quite ahead of his time in terms of medical knowledge (check his biog). And NB my OR/POV antennae buzzed when I read that little section. --Dweller (talk) 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Someone has tagged the Religious restrictions on the consumption of pork for OR, though the talk page seems to indicate it is for a different reason....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Hmm... makes me more dubious, but I'll check. btw... I'm not Alastair! --Dweller (talk) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Have found good stuff, including online version of Maimonides text. I'll dump it here for you to use as you wish. I maintain that the food which is forbidden by the Law is unwholesome. There is nothing among the forbidden kinds of food whose injurious character is doubted, except pork (Lev. xi. 7), and fat (ibid. vii. 23). But also in these cases the doubt is not justified. For pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter. The principal reason why the Law forbids swine's flesh is to be found in the circumstance that its habits and its food are very dirty and loathsome. It has already been pointed out how emphatically the Law enjoins the removal of the sight of loathsome objects, even in the field and in the camp; how much more objectionable is such a sight in towns. But if it were allowed to eat swine's flesh, the streets and houses would be more dirty than any cesspool, as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks. So, Maimonides argues "pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter", whatever that means! More importantly, the "principal reason" is that if you keep pigs, you end up with a dirty and unhealthy environment. Important note: Maimonides was writing from Islamic Egypt at the time, which is why he mentions "as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks." (ie France) The comments about the pig's habit of lying with its legs outstretched come from Midrash Vayikra Rabba (ch 13) where it is mentioned as part of an elaborate metaphor, but not in connection with any reason for particularly abhorring the creature. Hope that helps. --Dweller (talk) 09:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC) References Maimonides, Guide for the perplexed, Book III ch.48. Can be viewed online at http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/gfp184.htm Bract pattern You know what I don't get? On page 245 of George (1981), and again on page 40 of Collins (2007), George gives a diagram showing the arrangement of unit inflorescences on a Banksia flower spike. Both diagrams clearly show a hexagonal layout; i.e. every common bract is surrounded by six equidistant common bracts, thus forming little hexagons. In support of this, George (1981) states "The unit inflorescences are so arranged on the axis that there are three pattern lines—vertical, and both dextral and sinistral spiral." I haven't dissected an inflorescence, but in some species the pattern persists right through flowering and can be seen on the infructescence. You won't get a better example than this B. menziesii cone. Look at that pattern. There's no way you could call it hexagonal. It is a rectangular (or rather diamond, since the lines are diagonal) grid. Depending on how you define a neighbourhood, you could argue that each common bract has 4 or 8 neighbours, but there's no way you could argue for 6. Similarly, you could argue for two pattern lines (dextral and sinistral spiral) or four (dextral, sinistral, vertical and horizontal), but there is no way you could argue for 3, because there is no reason to include vertical whilst excluding horizontal). On top of that there is a beautiful symmetry in the way each common bract is surrounded by its own floral bracts and those of its neighbours. But George's diagrams destroy that symmetry. I thought maybe B. menziesii was an exception to a general rule, but you can see the same diamond grid, though not as clearly, in File:Banksia serrata4.jpg, and I reckon (but am not certain) I can see it in my B. attenuata cone. And in File:Banksia prionotes mature cone.jpg too. What the heck is going on? (I'm not just being a pretentious wanker here. I thought the diagram was interesting and informative enough for me to whip up an SVG version for Misplaced Pages. But since copying George's diagram isn't really on, and it is much better to go straight from nature if possible, I was basing my version on this B. menziesii cone. But it isn't going to work if the diagram shows a rectangular grid and the text has to say it is hexagonal.) Hesperian 13:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Thanks for reminding me on this one – I think it was Alex (or Kevin??) who told me that every bract pattern was unique to a species and hence diagnostic, but as far as I know not much if anything has been published on this area. The similarity between archaeocarpa and attenuata was noted (the bract pattern remaining in the fossils). I seem to recall feeling bamboozled as well by the description when I read it some time ago. I will have to refresh myself with some bedtime reading....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Update: I had a look at the pages in question in the banksia book(s), there is a little bit more in the 1981 monograph but not much. I meant to ring Alex George about this and should do so in the next few days...I guess the photos look sort of like hexagons stretched vertically :P Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC) Dipsacus fullonum Just passing through. I am not an expert with flora but I do take photos now and again. Does this image from my personal collection help or hinder your discussion? I see diamonds --Senra (talk) 12:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC) Haha yeah. Not a bad comparison at all. a diamond pattern it is there as well. You sorta let your eyes go a little out of focus and see two diagonal lines....Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC) Question I note that the last six images to be posted on your talk page were posted by me. I'm not sure whether to apologise.... What is going on in the lower image? Clearly this is an inflorescence in very early bud, but those furry white things are apparently not developing flower pairs. Are they some kind of protective bract or something? Hesperian 01:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC) You certainly see those thingies on the developing buds of alot of banksias. I'd be intrigued what the Nikulinsky book, which is essentially a series of plates of a developing menziesii inflorescence, says (not sure, I don't recall whether it had commentary...). Another thing to look up. Was about to look up the patterns just now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC) Now I have looked at the books and bract architecture, question is are they common bracts or are they something which falls off (don't think so but..). Something else to ask Alex. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:49, 2 September 2009 (UTC) Having found nothing in George, I've been reading Douglas's stuff on ontogeny of Proteaceae flowers, and found nothing there either. If you snap a spike axis in half, they are just that brown colour, and essentially made of closely packed fuzz. I wonder if there is initially no gap in the axis for the flower to grow, so the developing flower literally has to shove some of the axis out in front of it as it extends. This would explain everything except for the white tip. Hesperian 10:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC) I have today taken a long lunch and gone bushwalking with Gnangarra. While he took happy-snaps, I did some OR on this question. My diagnosis is: these are peduncles that have developed common bracts, but have not yet developed floral bracts or flowers. In very young spikes like the one pictured here, they are not yet very densely packed together, so they can be perceived as individual peduncles. Given time, they will continue to grow, and as they do so they will become more and more densely packed together, until eventually they are jammed together so tightly that their dense coverings of hairs form the fibrous brown material that comprises a typical flower spike, and the common bracts at their apex will form the bract pattern on the surface of the spike. At that point, they will no longer be distinguishable as individual peduncles, but will simply be part of the spike. When the flowers start to develop, they get squeezed together even more. At this point, sometimes, a peduncle may break off the axis and be squeezed right out of the spike as the flowers around it develop. Thus you may see one or two of these furry things sitting at random positions on the surface of a developed flower spike. As evidence for this hypothesis I offer the following observations: Wherever one of those "furry things" is found loose on the surface of a spike, you will also find a gap in the bract pattern beneath it, where the common bract is absent; "Furry things" may occasionally be found partly out of the spike, but partly in, in which cases the white tip is quite obviously the common bract. In such cases removal of the "furry thing" leaves behind a visible hole in the spike where a common bract ought to be. Hesperian 05:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC) Interesting – Gah! Forgot to ring Alex – evening is a crazy time with little availability for me, but will see what I can do. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC) Not OR any more. Look at the picture of "Banksia flower bud seen in profile" here: clear evidence of the common and floral bracts forming one of those little furry upside-down pyramids, with the flower arising from it. Hesperian 03:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC) On a tangential point, the first image would most likely pass FPC if it ever finds a home that is appropriate. Noodle snacks (talk) 06:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC) Hmmm, okay, hopefully Hesperian will see this thread. :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC) Gosh, would it really?! I was quite proud of it but a bit unsure whether it had enough depth of field. But if I'll take anyone's word that it would probably pass, I'll take Noodle snacks. :-) Hesperian 23:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC) Banksia menziesii with persistent florets While I was out a-walking in the bush one day last week, I spied a banksia with an unfamiliar jizz. Even on closer inspection I was bamboozled for half a minute until the pieces fell together and I realised I was looking at a B. menziesii with persistent florets. Not just a bit late to fall: there were old cones from previous seasons with the florets still bolted on. In fact, there wasn't a single bald cone on the whole tree. I've never seen anything like it. Have you? Hesperian 04:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC) Hmm..interesting. I have not ever noticed a menziesii like this, but not to say it can't happen. Might it be a menziesii/prionotes hybrid – how far is the tree from you? I'd compare the newgrowth/leaf dimensions/trunk all for comparison. Did it have any new flowers? Some of these old cones have an aura of prionotes about them...Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC) prionotes crossed my mind at first, but the bark is that of menziesii, and nothing like the distinctive prionotes bark. And the flower spikes lack the woolliness of old prionotes florets. It's quite near my place; about ten minutes drive. Even closer to where Alex lives (assuming he still lives at the address he has been publishing under lately): only five minutes drive from there I would guess. If it's prionotes (which it isn't), then we've extended the known range of that species 10km south. Likewise, a hybrid means there's a prionotes population nearby, so it amounts to the same thing. Hesperian 05:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC) Banksiamyces again I finally made it to the library and got a hold of the article you had asked about a couple of weeks ago. There's enough info there to make DYK-worthy stubs on the genus, and three of the species (macrocarpus, katerinae, toomanis), or, alternatively, maybe enough for a GA on the genus. What are the chances of images? Apparently these fungi make small but visible apothecia on the seed capsules. Berkeley and Broome first wrote about the fungus in 1887, so maybe there's a sketch from the protologue that's useable. Anyway, I'll start adding text in a day or two and maybe we can have the first Banksia/Fungi wikiproject collaboration? Sasata (talk) 14:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC) Berkeley & Broome (1887) is online at http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/13683 — see page 217. There is a picture at Plate 29 figure 18. Hesperian 02:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC) That's a nice image on plate 29 there. They call it Tympanis toomanis on page 224 decription of plate. How do we capture that image and replicate it on commons? Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Like this. Hesperian 03:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC) On page 222, they talk about finding it on a banksia cone near the Tooma River in southern NSW, which leaves me thinking it is a cone of Banksia marginata although they do not state this (OR alert ++++). Funny looking marginata cone but marginata is a hugely variable species....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Check your email; I've sent you a copy of Beaton (1982), where they do state that the cone is B. marginata. (You guys should have asked me first; I could have saved Sasata a walk to the library.) Hesperian 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC) @Sasata – I'll leave it up to you whether a solid GA and one DYK for the whole shebang, or 4 species articles – you've got the material and I am happy either way. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Am working on the article behind-the-scenes now... that picture you uploaded is excellent, and thanks Hesp for finding the protologue. Too bad the scan resolution is so crappy; I can upload a screen capture/crop to Commons, but will first investigate to see if there's a copy of the original around here so I might rescan at higher resolution. Four DYKs and 1 GA doesn't sound unreasonable for the lot, but I'll see what I can come up with. Sasata (talk) 03:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC) The resolution is good. I guess you were looking at it at 25%. Try zooming in. Hesperian 03:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Yeah, it'll do the trick. I gave the article a good push towards GA. Hesp, do you have easy access to Beaton 1984, or maybe Fuhrer, B,; May, T. (1993). "Host specificity of disc-fungi in the genus Banksiamyces on Banksia." Victorian Naturalist (South Yarra) 110 (2):73–75? I think once those two are located and added, that'll be it from journals (but you may find stuff to add from your Banksia books?). I could start stubs for the species, but it would be a shame to have to leave out B. maccannii. Sasata (talk) 07:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC) I can probably get Vic Naturalist at UNSW Library next tuesday or friday (slim chance on weekend). Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC) When you get to Victorian Naturalist, you'll also want to grab Sommerville, K.; May, T. (2006). "Some taxonomic and ecological observations on Banksiamyces". The Victorian Naturalist. 123: 366–375.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) Hesperian 08:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Thanks for finding that, wonder why it didn't show up in my database search. Cas, if it's too mush hassle for you to get these, let me know and I can order them, would take 1–2 weeks to get here. I'll have easy access to Beaton (1984) on Monday. No access to Victorian Naturalist. Hesperian 08:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot again. I've just scanned it now. Cas: I'll forward shortly; if you have Sasata's email address, can you forward it on please? Otherwise, Sasata: send me an email so I know where to send this scan. Hesperian 04:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC) I don't see any email link on your user page... I can wait until Cas forward a copy. Thanks kindly Sasata (talk) 15:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC) I guess you've never noticed the "Email this user" link in the sidebar toolbox.... Hesperian 23:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC) ! Wouldya look at that... That's embarrassing! Now excuse me while I go give eyewitness testimony in a murder trial. Sasata (talk) 23:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC) Hang on a sec, will send. Also, will be near the library again for Vic Naturalist. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC) Hahaha. Fantastic. I just realised I never uplaoded a funny photo I took in WA a few years ago. I need to double check. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC) As OZtrylia has a notoriously under described rang of and field of mycology study – any signs of further fungi or algae work is to be encouraged at all points SatuSuro 01:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Taking pity on poor Cas, whose Banksia books are still packed up in boxes: From Collins, Collins and George (2008), page 47, first paragraph of a section entitled "Fungi and lichens": "Many kinds of fungi are associated with Banksias. There is even a genus of fungi named for their association with these plants—Banksiamyces. The first species of these was recognised in the 1880s and placed in the genus Tympanis, then in the 1950s transferred to the genus Encoelia. Further collections and research led to the description of the genus Banksiamyces by Beaton and Weste in 1982, with two further species. Six taxa are now recognised, so far known from 13 species of Banksia (Sommerville & May, 2006). Commonly known as banksia discs, they have all been found on eastern Australian Banksias and one is also known in Western Australia. They are discomycete fungi, growing on the fruit and appearing as small, shallow dark cups on the follicles (Fuhrer, 2005). When dry they fold inwards and look like narrow slits. Their effect is unkown but it seems unlikely that they are responsible for degradation of the seeds." At the bottom of the page there is a photo of Banksiamyces on B. lemanniana. They look like little light grey maggots on the follicles. Based on the photo and textual description, I would suggest that the B. violacea photo doesn't show this genus. Hesperian 11:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Hmmm, that's what I initially thought when I read the description and sketches in Beaton 1982, but after seeing B&B's 1872 sketches, I was pretty sure Cas's pic was a Banksiamyces. I guess I should reserve judgment until I get more info. Sasata (talk) 17:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC) From the abstract of Somerville and May 2006: "Apothecia of these crops are of different macroscopic appearance, with lighter apothecia being mostly immature, and darker apothecia producing spores." ... so who knows? Sasata (talk) 17:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Anything else to add to this article? Shall we put it up for GAN? Sasata (talk) 17:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC) Yeah put it up, there might be some bits and pieces. I'll take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC) Any Banksia experts you're chums with that might be able to give a confirmation on your putative Banksiamyces photo? Sasata (talk) 05:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC) damn, I meant to contact Tom May about it (who has been helpful before). Will dig up his email and see what he says. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC) Abraham Halpern You may want to have a look there as well. Appears to have been improved by a Szasz fan. I've read diagonally this article, but even that doesn't seem to support the light in which the Halpern-Szasz issue is presented in Misplaced Pages. Tijfo098 (talk) 13:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC) Just go back from a weekend break with no innernet..now where was I.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC) Aboriginal Astronomy Hi Casliber – thanks for your note. Yes there's quite a bit more out there which Duane Hamacher and I are slowly trying to get written up. You can find some more stuff on www.emudreaming.com and you may find some papers you havent come across on http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rnorris/papers/papers.htm Have fun! RayNorris (talk) 03:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC) Great! I'll have a look and if I find anything specific to nag you on...I will :) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC) Orange-bellied Parrot Neophema99 (talk) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Hi. I would like to open for discussion the format of the entry for 'Orange-bellied Parrot'. As news occurs in the recovery program for this species, the limitations of the current format of the Misplaced Pages entry become more obvious. The heading, 'Conservation Status' should, I believe, be reserved for the actual conservation status in Australia, and in the three states, SA, Tasmania and Victoria. What follows after that, but still under that heading, at present, is a running commentary of events since about 2010. This is not acceptable. I propose another heading be inserted, 'Recovery Program' or similar. In it, a short history of the OBP recovery program could be given – since 1980 or so – and then, new events could be smoothly inserted as they happen. What do others think? The Misplaced Pages entry is an important first port of call for many people interested in this bird. We owe it to them, and to history, to provide a better entry. Neophema99 (talk) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Agreed. Will take a look. sounds good – helps with seamless updating and no doubt there is a lot of info that could be added. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC) got any advice for writing a constellation FA? Thinking of diversifying and trying Corona B. Double sharp (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2014 (UTC) It's easier than stars as there is less hardcore physics involved, but trickier as you have to make the material not "listy", which it sort of is by very nature. Smaller constellations are easier as there is less material to list generally. Star guide books, alot of which are on google, are good for general overview, how to find things, what's next to what etc. but alot of their factual info (distance/luminosity) is outdated. I have even suspected this in newer reprints/editions where new material is coming out. SIMBAD is a godsend and makes finding other material easy. I was using it as a ref itself but probably better to use the refs it cites. Overall I find astronomy articles more challenging than biology ones – trickeir to make engaging. We can collaborate on CrB if you like as I did plan on taking it All the Way at some point and then having it as a double mainpage with CrA. Collaborating is good as it makes for less work in some ways – each of us can copyeidt the other etc. 20:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC) Just popping in during some of the rare free time I have at the moment to say that the hardest part of the constellation articles is figuring out exactly what objects to write about, since there is generally quite a bit of discretion in whether or not something should be in the article. I generally try to write about all stars brighter than magnitude 5.0, and the most-studied astronomical objects within the constellation, as well as a few other things such as extremes (e.g. R136a1) and unusual objects. One tip to find notable stars, I've found, is this SIMBAD query, which lists all Bayer, Flamsteed, and variable stars in each constellation by number of refs. Of course further research is necessary for other stars without said designations, but it's a good start. I would help, but I don't anticipate having much free time at all until at least December. StringTheory11 (t • c) 21:18, 7 September 2014 (UTC) StringTheory11 Wow! Great idea/find! That really helps. Agree with what you've said. I think it is good to get these in order as it also highlights what other articles are underdone or incorrect etc. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC) Yup the small size was part of the reason I chose CrB (it's not the only reason though :-P). I'm cool with a collaboration. ST11's suggestions, as always, make a lot of sense. Going to read through some constellation FAs to get an idea of what to write – not least CrA... Double sharp (talk) 02:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC) Double sharp, I have started buffing with this one. Just arting with the brighter stars – SIMBAD is best place to start and then chasing refs. Not sure how much you know about them (figuring distance from parallax etc...) so just ask away..or start on deep sky objects and I'll continue with stars (??) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC) Carcinoma in situ The carcinoma in situ page has been updated and it explains the different views that sometimes carcinoma in situ is seen as a cancer and sometimes it is not. You will probably remember earlier this year that you supported changing my use of the term "invasive cancer" to "cancer". The expression "invasive cancer" is used frequently in books particularly when talking about cancer of the cervix and in my opinion using the term "invasive cancer" can improve clarity. What do you think of the explanations in the carcinoma in situ article? Snowman (talk) 13:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC) As it reads right now, which ones are you thinking should have invasive added to them? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC) Whoops, I have phrased it badly above, but you seem to have understood me. I should have said that you did not support my use of "invasive cancer" and you preferred the use of "cancer" instead. Actually, to me, it is not as simple as just inserting the word "invasive". Back then, I saw a better phrase in a reference and I thought about using it, because I thought that it would be accurate, readable, and I hoped keep everyone happy; however, the situation become unnecessarily tense and I felt like I was walking on eggs (and you know what that means). I did not get around to developing the article any further nor mentioning the "magical" phrase. I will see if I can find the phrase again. I recall that the solution was to use a short phrase in the place of cancer or invasive cancer in the introduction. I am talking in riddles at the present time, because I want to make sure that I can find that phrase again, and that will mean thinking about the introduction again. Snowman (talk) 20:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC) Okay, let me know what you are thinking of once you get it clear. It is an intriguing question. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 5 November 2014 (UTC) I would recommend the amendment belew, because the demarcation between non-cancer and cancer varies according to the literature, as we have seen, and this is made more difficult by a simplified language and vocabulary used to communicate the complex situation to patients. A definition of cancer that includes in-situ cancer is well established, but perhaps the world of the cytologist or histopathologist is a small world, where to say "invasive cancer" is not unusual. This is the current line in the introduction; "Cervical cytology tests can often detect precursors of cervical cancer and enable early successful treatment.". I think that it would be more accurate if it said something like; "The main aim of cervical cytology screening is to detect precursors of cancer and early cervical cancer to enable early successful treatment.". In this new line a full spectrum from viral changes to dysplasia to carcinoma-in-situ to early invasive cancer is included, so the controversy over where to put the non-cancer/cancer line disappears, and the meaning is clear no matter where the reader puts the line in his or her own mind-map. Snowman (talk) 13:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC) I reworded it like this to make it flow better yet be inclusive and cover all interpretations. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC) After some deep thought, I think that your edit is good enough. Snowman (talk) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC) What do you think about making a joint nomination with me to take the cervix article to FA review sometime? I would not be planning to edit much of the "History" and "Other animals" sections, because I do not know much about those topics. I am not usually on the nominator's side of the fence, but I would be willing to step into that role here, partly to test the water. Snowman (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC) I think it is a good idea – the prerequisites for being a nominator are being reasonably familar with the article and having the ability to address issues raised at FAC. Do you see anything else that needs fixing before listing it at FAC? 02:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC) Oh good. I would like to have a long look at the article before FA nomination, and I expect that I will not feel happy with the article as a potential FA nomination for several weeks. There is some content and page organization in the article (as it is now) that I would like to reflect on. The peer review is also worth re-visiting to see what was not achieved there. I will probably attempt to start a few discussions on the article talk page where relevant. Do you have any time frame in mind or any particular schedule of your own to work around? Of course, I would ask you to constructively criticize my work whenever you think that anything can be improved, and I will try to focus on the issue and answer honestly and objectively trying not to be fractious nor stubborn, with a view to learning from my errors. It think that it will work better like that, than keeping quite or not speaking up when you do not agree with your co-nominator. I am saying that because I guessed that you have not felt easy about not supporting your co-nominator in FA reviews previously. Also, as before, please be alert to my writing style, which can sometimes need re-phrasing owing to clumsy grammar, although the content is often unambiguous (to me at least). Apart from that, it could be challenging writing for general readers and even more challenging writing for specialist readers that are unfamiliar with the small world of histopathology. Snowman (talk) 12:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC) Snowmanradio I have no time scale on this so it sorta takes as long as it takes. The refs need fixing for page numbers. The material is pretty good – only thing from PR left is double checking lymphatic drainage really I thought. Anyway. Posting things step by step on talk page is good. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:39, 7 November 2014 (UTC) I would have though that the "Function" heading would be about normal function. Surly, putting a barrier in front of the cx is not a normal function of the cervix. Also, oc pills are more about pharmacology and modified functioning of the cervix. Should the "Contraception" heading have its own level-2 heading? This has been discussed before, but it is worth starting another discussion on the talk page about this? Snowman (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC) I think that the human altering of function is fine there. I think it is fine as a level 3 heading underneath function Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC) When medicines affect function, it is called pharmacology. Snowman (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC) In the introduction; "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in shape". Change to: ? 1. "... the cervix is cylindrically shaped usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in cross section". 2. "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in in cross section" Snowman (talk) 17:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC) I think the first one or something like it – will take a look now. I wonder if the fact it is roughly cylindrical makes saying it's round in cross-section redundant. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC) Your amendment looks find to me. Snowman (talk) 11:32, 10 November 2014 (UTC) Should there be more consistency in using {{main| under more of the headings where there is an obvious main article else where? Snowman (talk) 11:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC) Snowmanradio Yes that sounds like a good idea. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC) OK, I expect that I will add some when I do some editing there. Snowman (talk) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC) Re Vaginal portion of cervix. Have you got any ideas on what to do with this article on the portio (or ectocervix)? I do not know why WP Anatomy has so many articles on sub-parts. If relevant, I expect that a formal discussion would be needed to consider a merge. Snowman (talk) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC) I think it should be merged. Will post something. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC) I plan to watch for a while and express an opinion, if needed. Snowman (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC) It is off to a good start over there. I think that there is nothing on the unreferenced portio page that can be copied over to the cervix page. We could start planing how to present the portio (and its various names) on the cervix page. Snowman (talk) 12:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC) In have found what to me looks like a 2003 copyrighted version of File:Cervix dilation sequence.svg, so I have started a deletion discussion on Commons. Commons administrators will now have a look at it. Initially, I left an message with the uploader on Commons to ask a technical question about the image, and I noticed that he is currently blocked for three months, so I did a search for other copies of the cervix dilation image. The image should show the babies head moving down the birth canal as the cervix dilates, but the head looks stuck. The image is on about a dozen or more Wikis, so they might all be removed by a bot in due course. I am not sure if the image needs removing from the Cervix page at this juncture or not, so I wonder what you think about removal from the en Wiki. Snowman (talk) 09:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC) Oh dear – I suspect it will have to be removed, though maybe hold for a moment and see if an explanation is forthcoming. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC) I recently found a photograph of a rare parrot with the wrong copyright and it was deleted from Commons one week after I started the deletion discussion. Snowman (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC) That sounds in keeping with deletion discussions elsehwere – around 1 week. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC) Update: Image was deleted this yesterday. Snowman (talk) 13:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC) The Cervical cancer article has had a lot of work on it since about June, and it is well worth looking at. I expect that we could shorten (or otherwise amend) the section on cervical cancer in the "cervix" article, because the "cervical cancer" article offers a good readable account. Snowman (talk) 12:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: I will take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC) Re HPV vaccines. Sometimes, I like to tidy up the linked pages. This article was moved from the singular to the pleural in March 2014. I am aware that there is more than one HPV vaccine, but I would expect this to be on the singular name, unless there something controversial about it that I have missed. Snowman (talk) 12:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: yes that is unusual and I think I prefer it at singular. I think it is worth discussing on the talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC) The "Anatomical abnormalities" section looks like a mixture of acquired and congenital diseases. Could this be organized differently? I nearly did a reorganization, but a little re-organization does not change much, and I suspect that it would be easier to do a bit of a re-write. Also, it may be possible to expand the section with a little about the developmental abnormalities of the female genital tract seen in Cryptophthalmos syndrome, Johanson-Blizzard syndrome, Rokitansky Anomalod, and as less commonly seen in Roberts syndrome and Trisomy 18 syndrome. These diseases are not at the front of my mind, however these are in the index of my rather old second-hand book on human malformation. This is not a small change, so I welcome your opinion. Snowman (talk) 13:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: let me take a look. I don't recall it right now and I thought I was happy with it before but will look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC) I have become unexpectedly busy in real life, so I have not had much time for editing the Wiki. I hope that I will be able to contribute with more editing and work on the cervix article again after about two or three months . Snowman (talk) 10:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: no worries. I found that I have lost interest in it. My free time (of which I have little) has to be enjoyable and thus something I have real enthusiasm for. I found I did get a bit enthusiastic about this one but comes and goes. More interested in frigatebird and brachychiton rupestris now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Also orange-bellied parrot – very interesting story. I find writing about extinct species makes me sad (I leave them to FunkMonk) but rare ones are ok. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Apart from manual editing, I was hoping to write a few scripts for fun to do scanning and mass editing tasks on the Wiki this Autumn and Winter, but can not participate in a meaningful way at the present time. I plan to return when I can and I will look to see what you and User FunkMonk are doing then. Incidentally, have you any thoughts on why discussions about anatomy topics tend to be rather brittle? I might ask that question on the WP Anatomy talk page. Snowman (talk) 10:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC) What do you mean by 'brittle'? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC) I will ask open-ended questions instead. Do you have any observations about discussions on anatomy topics? Snowman (talk) 12:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Running a contest (talk page watchers welcome) Right folks...I can't decide which (long overdue) contest to run again. Putting this out there to see what folks reckon the 'pedia most needs or would be most fun (as without enthusiasm, it won't work). For folks unfamiliar, I try to get a wikigrant so several folks have a chance of winning a $25 (or more) Amazon voucher. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Core contest 99of9 (talk) 03:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 10:03, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Vanamonde (Talk) 20:39, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Stub contest Nessie (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Nosebagbear (talk) 09:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC) (just as a side-note I wouldn't take any voucher but would chuck it back into the pot) SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 11:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Guettarda (talk) 12:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Mcampany (talk) 17:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Take the lead! Golden gnome Nessie (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Loopy30 (talk) 11:47, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Guettarda (talk) 12:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Mcampany (talk) 17:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Note to self = Look at this Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of Roy Rosenfeld If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article. You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles. A tag has been placed on Roy Rosenfeld, requesting that it be deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. 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But busy so ping me if you haven't seen me there in 3 days or so. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 48, 2023) Institute for sports science in Japan Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Sports science Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Human-centered design • 3dfx Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message Hello! Voting in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 11 December 2023. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. 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It hasn't changed much since your edits in 2019, and Jim has recently looked at it, so I think we're in good shape. - Dank (push to talk) 18:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC) Nota This article is just crying out for your expertise. Enjoy! Drmies (talk) 02:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC) Oh dear...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC) I assume you're on your way to the library: good! Thanks! Drmies (talk) 13:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 49, 2023) A Mountfield church in East Sussex Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: East Sussex Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Sports science • Human-centered design Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 4 December 2023 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions FAC request Hi Cas, I hope that things are going well for you. While I am not keen to add to your list of unsolicited requests, Teloschistaceae is at FAC and could do with both another review and a look through by a knowledgeable editor. If you felt up to providing either of those, it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC) Ooo, interesting. I'll take a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 50, 2023) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: International trade law Please be bold and help improve it! 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For me, 2023 was a year of stories, and a click on "music" will give you the latest music and memories, promised. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 31 December 2023 (UTC) Happy New Year Happy New Year! Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC) Heh thanks - and ditto! To everyone who has posted here in this festive season! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Fish slice Please be bold and help improve it! 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The article for improvement of the week is: Shovel Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Antacid • Fish slice Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 4, 2024) Visualization of one newton of force Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Newton (unit) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Shovel • Antacid Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2024) Mahatma Gandhi with a young Indira Ghandi, during his fast in 1924 Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Hunger strike Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Newton (unit) • Shovel Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Mentor request Hi, seeing that you're the only one of the mentors listed at WP:FAM naming astronomy among his interests, I would like to request mentoring from you before an FA nomination of Near-Earth object. For some background: I achieved GA for that article back in 2018, and have recently restored it to that level. I have attempted to bring an article to FA once (in a completely different field: railways), but aborted it for some reason - after lots of work based on helpful reviews, which taught me about some finer points of the English language and citation templates -, and it was 13 years ago, so I barely remember it & standards probably changed a lot since.Rontombontom (talk) 17:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC) Heh, I'll take a look. Cool article BTW. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC) If you have the time, could you please take another look at the article, and tell it it's now ready for FA nomination? Over the past two weeks, I have re-ordered the history, impacts & close approaches sections in a sequence that seems logical, trimmed some sections covered in greater detail in linked articles, and changed access/archive date format after all. Rontombontom (talk) 09:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2024) Various pâtés Hello, Casliber. 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Previous selections: Pâté • Hunger strike Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions CS1 error on Haborodelphis Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Haborodelphis, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows: A "missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. (Fix | Ask for help) Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 16:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Foreign policy Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Rigatoni • Pâté Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 19 February 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Beer I obviously owe you one. Thanks! 86.177.202.213 (talk) 21:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC) A beer on me! Heh one day... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Economy of South America Please be bold and help improve it! 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Best – Aza24 (talk) 05:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Happy to do so. Will head over to look at discussion. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/April 10, 2024 I just made a few small edits; feel free to revert or discuss. - Dank (push to talk) 16:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC) They're good/improvements. thx. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 13, 2024) File:Bucaram foto.pngAbdalá Bucaram Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Abdalá Bucaram Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Natural resource • Religious music Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Signups open for The Core Contest 2024 The Core Contest—Misplaced Pages's most exciting contest—returns again this year from April 15 to May 31. The goal: to improve vital or other core articles, with a focus on those in the worst state of disrepair. Editing can be done individually, but in the past groups have also successfully competed. There is £300 of prize money divided among editors who provide the "best additive encyclopedic value". Signups are open now. Cheers from the judges, Femke, Casliber, Aza24. – Aza24 (talk) 02:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC) If you wish to start or stop receiving news about The Core Contest, please add or remove yourself from the delivery list. Happy Adminship Anniversary! Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Casliber! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC) Move protection of Gravity Falls (season 2) In 2015, you had protected the page to temporarily restrict edits to autoconfirmed editors and at the same time, indefinitely restrict moves to sysops only. Is it OK with you to have the move protection to be dropped? – robertsky (talk) 03:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC) Sure. Done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 14, 2024) Gabin in The Little Rebels (1955) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Jean Gabin Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Abdalá Bucaram • Natural resource Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 1 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions TFA story · music · places Thank you today for the beautiful Telopea speciosissima, introduced (in 2010): "What's not to like? The state emblem and a darn fine flower at that....and it's been attracting birds and looking nice and red for over 60 million years....."! - I saw flowers on Madeira, and if you see me just naming one "red flower" and know better, please correct ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC) plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC) WikiCup 2024 April newsletter We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round. Our current top scorers are as follows: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television; voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs; Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history; SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs; Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs; Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA. Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Misplaced Pages policies or processes to receive more points. If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 16, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Antarctic Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Fire safety • Jean Gabin Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 17, 2024) Full rack of fifteen balls, ready for the break shot Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Pool (cue sports) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Antarctic • Fire safety Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 18, 2024) A crewed submersible used for underwater exploration Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Exploration Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Pool (cue sports) • Antarctic Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions WikiCup 2024 May newsletter The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014. The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television; Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history; SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles; BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article; voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles. The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics. Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC) Problematic digital media use and Major depressive disorder Hello there! I noticed that you removed the Digital media addictions subsection from the Major depressive disorder article that was excerpted the Digital media use and mental health article Depression subsection. Considering that you are a psychiatrist and helped get the Major depressive disorder article up to featured article status (per your user page), I was wondering if you'd be willing to trim that section on the Digital media use and mental health article in accordance with WP:MEDSAY. I've been trying to improve the Digital media use and mental health article (hopefully to featured status if possible), initially by just tracking down systematic reviews and meta-analyses that find associations between the various problematic digital media use categories and recognized mental health disorders by the DSM and ICD and other human factors issues associated with problematic digital media use. Unfortunately, I am not a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist so all I can do is look things up using Google Scholar and often do not have access to entire articles. Another editor has raised issues with the article's layout at its talk page, if you have the time to comment on it. Thanks! -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC) Okay, difficult topic and I have little time for the stuff I want to prioritise on as is. First thing, some context is good but too much is unnecessary - e.g. this paragraph is just too distant from the topic at hand. Am even unconvinced about whether the remaining paragraph is needed (leaning to not but need to read and think some more) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC) RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins Hi there! Phase I of the Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus: Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 19, 2024) Papyriform columns in the Luxor Temple Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Ancient Egyptian architecture Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Exploration • Pool (cue sports) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 20, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Tax return Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Ancient Egyptian architecture • Exploration Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Nomination of RX Telescopii for deletion A discussion is taking place as to whether the article RX Telescopii is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/RX Telescopii until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. InTheAstronomy32 (talk) 18:42, 18 May 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 21, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: News program Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Tax return • Ancient Egyptian architecture Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 22, 2024) Logo used from the 1990s until acquisition by Oracle Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Sun Management Center Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: News program • Tax return Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 27 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 23, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: State of emergency Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Sun Management Center • News program Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 24, 2024) Turkish lira banknote Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: National economy (Turkey) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: State of emergency • Sun Management Center Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Mr. Two Hundred Thousand I MADE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND EDITS AND EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT AROUND MUCH ANYMORE I STILL GOT THIS STUPID T-SHIRT!!! jp×g🗯️ 02:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC) (Hyuk hyuk hyuk) fair point. I keep trying to reignite the fire...but hard competing as I've returned to being a DnD DM...competing priorities...sigh Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 25, 2024) Field hockey stick and ball Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Sports equipment Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: National economy (Turkey) • State of emergency Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 26, 2024) Breaking wave Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Breaking wave Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Sports equipment • National economy (Turkey) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 24 June 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions WikiCup 2024 July newsletter The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points. The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3: Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews; Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations; Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article. The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics. Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 27, 2024) Theo Jansen's Strandbeest, a group of planar walking mechanisms Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Mechanism (engineering) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Breaking wave • Sports equipment Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 28, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Applied science Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Mechanism (engineering) • Breaking wave Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 29, 2024) Ambush of Polish partisans against Russian forces during the January Uprising, 1863 Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Ambush Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Applied science • Mechanism (engineering) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 30, 2024) Cape of Good Hope (left) and Cape Hangklip (right) in South Africa Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Cape (geography) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Ambush • Applied science Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2024) Calder's Flamingo in Chicago Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: List of public art in Chicago Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Cape (geography) • Ambush Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 32, 2024) Smiling woman Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Happiness Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: List of public art in Chicago • Cape (geography) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Humpback whale FA Do you think the article is Satisfactory? I could expand a little more, but I'd also like for your to participate since you were the original nominator. LittleJerry (talk) 22:36, 11 August 2024 (UTC) I'll take a look. It's been a long time so will undoubtedly need something Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC) Here are some more articles you could use and LittleJerry (talk) 15:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC) How are things going? Do you still plan on working on this. I would do it by myself but am a bit hesitant since I didn't nominate it and I may have already made it into the Ship of Theseus. LittleJerry (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 33, 2024) A fictional social network diagram Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Social experiment Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Happiness • List of public art in Chicago Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 34, 2024)

Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Keygen Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Social experiment • Happiness Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 19 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 35, 2024)

Director Sergio Leone (right) and actor Enzo Santaniello on the set of the film Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Once Upon a Time in the West Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Keygen • Social experiment Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

Marie Antoinette

You protected this article 5 years ago. I thought it could be unprotected as vandals would have long gone? LibStar (talk) 09:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Let's give unprotection a whirl. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks LibStar (talk) 22:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for British people

British people has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 20:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
• Arconning (submissions) with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on Genghis Khan and 2 good articles; and
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Susanna Hoffs, 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.

Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 in the news credits, and at least 333 did you know credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Shuhada' Davitt

• Shuhada' Davitt (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. An article you protected over a decade ago seemed to have its protection settings removed recently. Do you mind removing protection settings from its redirect as well?197.2.203.207 (talk) 18:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure, why not. Done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 36, 2024)

Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Cancel culture Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Once Upon a Time in the West • Keygen Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 37, 2024)

Map of the Caroline Islands Archipelago Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Caroline Islands Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Cancel culture • Once Upon a Time in the West Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2024)

Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Polling station Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Caroline Islands • Cancel culture Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2024)

Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Human geography Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Polling station • Caroline Islands Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review

Hi there! The trial of the RfA discussion-only period passed at WP:RFA2024 has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period. Cheers, and happy editing! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism of Gold standard articles by a person who's disruptive edits you've dealt with previously.

Dear administrator. Can you please take a look into the edit history of these Karnataka dynasty pages

1) Chalukya_dynasty 2) Western_Chalukya_Empire 3) Kadamba_dynasty 4) Pallava_dynasty 5) Hoysala_Kingdom 6) Kalachuris_of_Kalyani

They have been continously getting vandalised by a Maratha caste IP looking to promote his caste. Please take a look at his edit history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2409:408C:ADB5:3805:E56B:A989:87F5:F563

I think similar edits were made by the same person in the Rashtrakutas dynasty page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&action=history) which made you protect the page for a period of 3 months about 4 days back. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&diff=prev&oldid=1247580284)

Kindly do the same for the other dynasty pages he is targetting as well. He is using old British period sources which according to WP:RAJ is unreliable (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_172#Are_British_Raj_ethnographers_unreliable.3F.)

The same account seems to be adding those dynasties to promote his caste here as well List_of_Maratha dynasties_and_states. Please look into it (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_Maratha_dynasties_and_states&action=history).

Thank you. Mpatrol (talk) 10:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2024)

Eight gold Spanish escudo (1687), issued during the reign of Carlos II of Spain Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Currency of Spain Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Human geography • Polling station Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

Any chance of a DYK prep to queue promotion (or two)?

Casliber, it looks like things are busy where you are, but in case you have any time, might you be able to promote any DYK preps to queues? The queues are all empty, and six preps are full; it would help if we could get some movement here. Many thanks even if now's a bad time; you've done so many promotions over the years. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Taking a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Not a problem. Been busy (and busy still). Will try to keep an eye on it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Mentor for GA/FAC

Hi Casliber, I am wondering if you would have some time (not urgently) to be a mentor/provide some specific advice regarding the Geologic Time Scale article I've helped significantly revise over the past couple of years. It is currently rated as B-class, but I believe it to be much improved since that assessment. I have requested an independent assessment of it on Wikiproject Geology as I think it may be of A-class now. Additionally I am considering either a GAN or FAC listing, but would appreciate advice from a more experienced editor. Thanks for your time. Jarred C Lloyd (talk) 02:04, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Taking a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

October music

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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, thank you for promoting her to the queue, - my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK credit

Hello Cas Liber, it seems my DYK credit for Juno (song) has not been processed despite it being part of a double hook with Bed Chem? I had added it to my nomination within seven days of it being created and bolded it.--NØ 00:25, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Mentor for Tumor Necrosis Factor FAC

Hi Casliber, I am a new editor and recently got Tumor Necrosis Factor promoted to GA status. I'd like to go for Featured Article status, and am wondering if you could be a mentor and provide some advice. Would greatly appreciate any help! AdeptLearner123 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Ah ok. Bit busy but will do so in a few days Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Mentoring for FAC

Hi, I'm contacting you because I noticed your username is listed at WP:FAM and I am interested in nominating a FAC but have never done so in the past. I'm contacting several people listed as FA mentors so if you are busy that is okay. The article is Neurocysticercosis, a parasitic brain disease. I have started a peer review for the article which can be found at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Neurocysticercosis/archive1. Thanks in advance for your time and consideration! IntentionallyDense 21:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I'll take a look when I can. Been busy IRL and wikipedia has been pushed aside for higher priorities alot of the time but I'll see what I can do. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:32, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much I really appreciate it! IntentionallyDense 01:16, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

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December music

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My third Christmas story is different ;) - enjoy the season! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)